Menu Foods Recall Expands Dramatically Due to Cross-Contamination

Our recall list is now up-to-date to include this expansion. Menu Foods is only 1 of several menufacturers, so please check our list for the all recalled brands. If we missed something, do let us know.

UPDATE: The expansion expands again. Menu Foods’ own press releases do NOT match up with their recall expansion list. Pet Food Tracker and PetSitUSA have worked the last several hours checking the lists and added several more brands to the recall expansion. Our recall list is now updated. Again.

ORIGINAL POST: This recall expansion covers dozens of new brands and foods — wet foods only — citing cross-contamination (corrected). This announcement comes more than a month and a half after the initial recall. The recall also expanded to include 2 varieties in Europe.

Latest from Menu Foods

Menu Foods says:

Menu Foods has previously recalled wet cat and dog food produced with adulterated wheat gluten supplied by ChemNutra Inc. Menu Foods is now expanding the recall to include cuts and gravy and select other products which do not include ChemNutra wheat gluten but which were manufactured at any of Menu Foods’ plants during the period that ChemNutra wheat gluten was used at that plant, to the extent they have not already been subject to a recall, due to the possibility of cross-contamination. Menu Foods has received a report from a customer and has received study results, both of which indicate cross-contamination.

(Hey Menu Foods, please just send us an email next time. Now we know why you visted 30 times today. Your identity will be kept confidential.)

Brands covered in expansion are listed after the jump. New brands are marked (New). Castor and Pollux’s recall of their Natural Ultramix food is included.

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US Recall Expansion

Cat Food:

  • Americas Choice, Preferred Pet
  • Best Choice
  • Cat’s Choice (New)
  • Companion
  • Compliments
  • Co-Op Gold (New)
  • Demoulas/Market Basket
  • Despar (New)
  • Drs. Fosters and Smith
  • Fame (New)
  • Feline Classic (New)
  • Feline Cuisine (New)
  • Food Lion
  • Giant Companion
  • Giant Eagle (New)
  • Hannaford
  • Hill Country Fare
  • Hy Vee
  • J. E. Mondou (New)
  • La Griffe (New)
  • Laura Lynn
  • Loving Meals
  • Master Choice (New)
  • Medi-Cal
  • Meijer’s Main Choice
  • Natural Ultramix (New)
  • Nu Pet (New)
  • Nutriplan
  • Nutro
  • Paws
  • Performatrin Ultra (New)
  • Pet Pride
  • Presidents Choice
  • Price Chopper
  • Priority Canada
  • Priority US
  • Roche Brothers (New)
  • Roundy’s (New)
  • Schnucks
  • Sophistacat
  • Special Kitty Canada
  • Springfield Prize
  • Stuzzy Gold (New)
  • Triumph (New)
  • Wegmans
  • Western Family Canada (New)
  • White Rose
  • Winn Dixie
  • Your Pet (New)

Dog Food

  • Authority
  • Award
  • Best Choice
  • Compliments (New)
  • Co-Op Gold (New)
  • Hannaford
  • Health Diet Gourmet Cusine (New)
  • Hill Country Fare (New)
  • Hy Vee
  • La Griffe (New)
  • Master Choice (New)
  • Natural Life
  • Nu Pet (New)
  • Ol’ Roy Canada
  • Performatrin Ultra (New)
  • Pet Pride/Good n Meaty
  • Presidents Choice
  • Priority US
  • Schnucks
  • Springfield Prize
  • Stater Brothers
  • Triumph (New)
  • Truly (New)
  • Western Family Canada (New)
  • Western Family US

Canadian Recall Expansion

Cat Food:

  • Americas Choice, Preferred Pet
  • Best Choice
  • Companion
  • Compliments
  • Co-Op Gold (NEW)
  • Demoulas/Market Basket
  • Drs Foster & Smith
  • Fame (NEW)
  • Feline Classic (NEW)
  • Feline Cuisine (NEW)
  • Food Lion
  • Giant Companion
  • Giant Eagle (NEW)
  • Hannaford
  • Hill Country Fare
  • Hy Vee
  • La Griffe (NEW)
  • Laura Lynn
  • Master Choice (NEW)
  • Meijer’s Main Choice
  • Natural Ultramix (NEW)
  • Nu Pet (NEW)
  • Nutriplan
  • Nutro
  • Paws
  • Performatrin Ultra (NEW)
  • Pet Pride
  • Presidents Choice
  • Price Chopper
  • Priority Canada (NEW)
  • Priority US
  • Roche Brothers
  • Roundy’s (NEW)
  • Schnucks
  • Sophistacat
  • Special Kitty Canada
  • Springfield Prize
  • Triumph (NEW)
  • Wegmans
  • Western Family Canada (NEW)
  • White Rose
  • Winn Dixie
  • Your Pet (NEW)

Dog Food:

  • Authority
  • Award
  • Best Choice
  • Compliments
  • Co-Op Gold (NEW)
  • Hannaford
  • Health Diet Gourmet Cuisine (NEW)
  • Hill Country Fare (NEW)
  • Hy Vee
  • La Griffe (NEW)
  • Master Choice (NEW)
  • Natural Life
  • Nu Pet (NEW)
  • Ol’ Roy Canada
  • Performatrin Ultra (NEW)
  • Pet Pride / Good n Meaty
  • Presidents Choice
  • Priority US
  • Schnucks
  • Springfield Prize
  • Stater Brothers
  • Triumph (NEW)
  • Truly (NEW)
  • Western Family Canada (NEW)
  • Western Family US

279 Responses to “Menu Foods Recall Expands Dramatically Due to Cross-Contamination”

  1. Genny says:

    [EDITED] wonderful. Big surprise……Not! Too bad the right people don’t read this site and get a clue.

  2. straybaby says:

    ok, i’m confused! is this a NEW wheat Gluten source? and if so, isn’t there still an unamed RPC importer out there?

  3. Genny says:

    [EDITED] wonderful! Big surprise! Too bad the right people don’t read this site for future clues.

  4. DaveyD says:

    Performatrin Ultra??? Their website says none of their food contains wheat gluten??
    Where are the IAMS & Eukanubas this time?

  5. love gsdogs says:

    Iams must be waiting in the wings until a late Friday press release can be issued…By the time all of the “dust” settles, there will only be a few products left standing….

  6. susanUnPC says:

    Guess it’s time to buy pet food with NO GRAINS of any kind. Thankfully, there are many excellent brands that offer human-grade meat and vegetables, with no grains.

  7. Genny says:

    Sorry for the expletive. Emergency vet trip over the weekend, Monday, Tuesday, $500 and many lost hours sleep later, I’m enraged.

  8. Cat Lady says:

    Is American Nutrition going to do the same thing next?

  9. purringfur says:

    Didn’t ChemNutra say that Menu Foods used more wheat gluten per month than they sold them?

    Exactly. Let the other recalls roll in.

  10. Linda says:

    I can’t stand it anymore. Thank goodness we cook Puppy Stew and use either Merrick Grammies Pot Pie or Innova Evo (no grains) but really, I am struggling to call all of the people that have adopted from us and it’s scary to even recommend a food right now.

    I feel so bad for anyone that has lost a pet or is currently trying to keep one healthy through this crisis.

    I never liked grains, we usually use Oats, please don’t let me hear it’s in oats too. I’ll throw up.

  11. purringfur says:

    Was it new gluten? - I’m a little confused…
    ……………………

    from pet connection site:

    …” possibility of cross-contamination. Menu Foods has received a report from a customer and has received study results, both of which indicate cross-contamination.”

  12. Anonymous says:

    Are we even safe giving our pets human food now? There wont be any pet food left after awhile and I’m just wondering since this poison is in our food supply too…is that even safe to give our pets?

  13. Ellie says:

    Check out the Menu press release–it’s not citing a different wheat gluten source; it’s saying there was cross-contamination at the plant.

    I thought I was safe feeding the Nutro Kitten food I already had on hand to my two kittens because it had no wheat gluten–now I learn I very well may have been feeding them poison, since the variety I was feeding is on the new list. I finished up the case just the other day and tossed everything in the recycling bin, so I don’t know the date codes for sure. Luckily, we have not had any symptoms of illness, but this is incredibly scary.

    ITCHMO ADMIN: We stand corrected and updated the post.

  14. Linda says:

    I use chicken thighs in our puppy stew, I’ll kill myself if the chicken I’m giving them is contaminated.

  15. xyz says:

    Itchmo admin: Is it possible to highlight the permanent pet food recall link in your main heading? A couple of people have mentioned they didn’t see it. Perhaps something like “recall expanded list (+date)”.

    Thanks again for keeping everyone informed.

    ITCHMO ADMIN: Done.

  16. River says:

    And now comes the news that millions of people have eaten chickens that were fed contaminated pet food. Tyson and Perdue say theirs are safe. Mine are Foster Farms, which hasn’t said much one way or the other. I have to assume the worst. Am I still supposed to feed them to my dogs and my human family members? Dinner tonight was *supposed* to be chicken! I trust my beef and my pork; my best friend raised both and I helped feed, so I know what was in their food. But chicken is still the one meat I get from the grocery store.

  17. Amber says:

    This is ridiculous, I can’t believe how long this has been going on…I really hope someone takes the initiative and gets an overhaul of the whole system. Pets are increasingly becoming members of the family around the US and pet parents are spending increasing amounts of money to take care of their children! This needs to be taken seriously. Animals are important to us and to other causes, such as seeing eye dogs and animals that are used for therapy. I’m so angered that this was allowed to happen.

    I only feed my babies Purina adult brand dry cat food and they have never had wet food in their lives, as I was under the impression that they really didn’t need it and it was too expensive to feed to them as it goes so quickly and dry food is so much cheaper. I’m glad now of my choice. I really hope this gets resolved soon and the government/media takes it seriously.

  18. YaYa says:

    I have been notifying as many places as possible about this one. PLEASE Folks Pitch-in and Spread the News!!!

    Post the URL for the places you go to or Email.

    That URL is http://www.menufoods.com

    Have folks {TELL them} to click on the Recall links to read the Lists!

    Please get the Word Out NOW! News channels etc.

    Don’t let this be a Ripple in the water, It need to be a Tsunami to get Folks ATTENTION!

    What a Disaster for Pet Parents!

    I’ve been cooking my own Kitty food for a while Now and she’s Amazing! Her symptoms are leaving slowly but surely.

    Just Make a Difference, by Pitching-in, Every little bit Counts to Some-One!

  19. Kathy Thompson says:

    Why are we not surprised?

  20. Ann H says:

    The positive side - Go Menu!! Give Congress the incentive to get some hefty fines out for this! Give Congress the incentive to really give the FDA punch power! Go Menu!! Give every government agency the will to put PFI under their thumb!!

    They now know our pets health circles around thru the guagmire of PFI arrogance and “self regulation” & impacts humans - yeah, constituents that vote for them. I hope the PFI kicks Menu off their Board.

    I hope and pray there is a violation in this lack of cleaning machines and time line that gets their doors locked!

    If there wasn’t a boycott, there needs to be one now!

    Ann H., really angry.

  21. 3catmommy says:

    I am not buying now (or ever) anything manufactured by Menu or American nutrition!! Check out By Natures Organics, Evangers, Merricks for an alternative!!

  22. YaYa says:

    Cross-Contaminations MEANS: NOT CLEANED!

    Unless they’ve come up with a New definitions for it!

  23. Steve says:

    Desperate Men

    Mars, Incorporated today announced the signing of a definitive agreement to acquire the global pet food operations of Nutro Products Inc., a leading manufacturer of high nutrition, high performance dog and cat foods sold in pet specialty and farm and feed stores. Closing of the purchase of Nutro from funds advised by Bain Capital Partners LLC, a global private investment firm, is subject to normal regulatory approvals which are expected to be completed within a few months. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

    The transaction will bring together two of the most recognized names in the petcare industry. Nutro will operate as a stand-alone organization within the Mars family of companies and will maintain its commitment to the pet specialty channel.

    http://www.nutroproducts.com/press5-1-07mars.asp

  24. Debbie4747 says:

    If anyone is interested, I have a post in the forums under “Make a Difference” to take out a full page ad in a country wide paper like USA Today expressing our concerns. If you are interested, please go over there and post some ideas. I’d like to start asking some organizations if they would like to donate, but I’m sure they’d want to see what ewe’ve got. Ideas are very much needed.
    This has to stop sometime….just has to.

  25. tammy says:

    I dont understand I have 2 cats that I love dearly and I feed them Iams dry hairball food is that on the list soon we wont be able to feed are animals anything there killing our pets

  26. Deb says:

    I was wondering when this was going to happen…..NO ONE at these plants thought to shut down to do a clean up???? What is wrong with these people…..common sense is blinded by profit?????

  27. Cat Lady says:

    Menu is saying “cross contamination”, but let’s remember that they are heavily invested now in blaming ChemNutra for being the only source of bad wheat gluten…

    So, if it IS cross contamination, which means equipment not properly cleaned between jobs, YUCK…. and if it turns out to actually be OTHER wheat gluten that’s contaminated, (fill in the blank).

    As if I hadn’t already decided no more Menu Foods, ever!

  28. susanUnPC says:

    Tammy, luckily you have other choices. I feed the two “indoor” cats and five homeless cats Merrick’s wet food, By Nature Organics wet food, occasional Wellness wet food + small amounts of dry kibble (Orijen or Serengeti).

    I also VARY their daily meals with different Merrick’s/By Nature Organics recipes so they don’t have to eat the same old thing all the time, and so they’re not exposed to just one food type/flavor/brand.

    For more info:
    FEEDING YOUR CAT: KNOW THE BASICS OF FELINE NUTRITION
    Lisa A. Pierson, DVM
    http://www.catinfo.org/
    CAT DIABETES (and also how the cat’s digestive system works and what it requires)
    Elizabeth Hodgkins, DVM
    http://www.catnutrition.org/diabetes.html

  29. Bill says:

    It’s time we put theses pigs out of business. We need to start a class action suit for covering up this stuff just for corporate profits.

    Where is the US Government and the FDA?

  30. lanie says:

    Which manufacturing plant/plants is Menu referring to? Does anyone know if the bad wheat gluten was used in the North Dakota plant? I’m using Innova canned for my cats now in hopes of avoiding cross contamination since they said none of the recalled products were made at the North Dakota plant. Can I still hope that is true?

  31. K9Rescue says:

    Re Steve @9:03pm:
    I just now copied the below info from Mars.com, which mftrs pet foods including Walthams (and they own Royal Canin). I find it — ummmm, interesting — that the Mars affiliate in CHINA (yes, it mftrs pet foods there) is named “Effem”. Is that as in, “F ‘Em” ???

    Home > Mars Directory > China > Effem China

    Effem China
    Where we are
    Effem China is located in Huairou County, northeast Beijing, about 50 km from downtown Beijing. The mountains provide a very good natural environment and fresh air surrounds the county. Huairou County is famous for its natural landscape including the well-known Mutianyu Great Wall which makes it a popular tour destination.

    Effem China also has sales offices in 5 cities: Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, Shenyang and Chengdu.
    What we do
    Effem China develops, produces and markets a range of snackfood and pet food products for sale in China (including Hong Kong) and for export to Japan. Our confectionery brands include DOVE, M&M’s, SKITTLES, and SNICKERS and pet food brands include PEDIGREE and WHISKAS.
    Effem China has over 500 associates in Huairou and a further 300 sales associates in different cities in China. Recruiting high caliber local talent to spearhead our success in China is one of Effem China’s key business priorities.

  32. robin says:

    Cat Lady,

    I agree with no more Menu ever as well as no more Am. Nut, again ever. They don’t clean between runs. Hell, they might waste a pound or two of product. These jerks don’t ever deserve a second chance. They cut the corners buy buying the cheap chinese glutens, not cleaning the equipment, putting stuff in the can that wasn’t on the label, they made their own bed so let them sleep in it. Oh and don’t forget about the criminal ceo of Menu who dumped his stock prior to warning the public of the tainted food.

  33. Ellie says:

    Cat Lady Says:
    Menu is saying “cross contamination”, but let’s remember that they are heavily invested now in blaming ChemNutra for being the only source of bad wheat gluten…
    ——-
    Cross-contamination doesn’t exactly make Menu look good, either. The Nutro food I was using does not have any wheat gluten as an ingredient, so either there was cross-contamination, or Menu added wheat gluten the way ANI supposedly added RPC.

    This is just a disaster. Seeing a food I was blithely feeding my kittens on the new list makes me sick to my stomach.

  34. purringfur says:

    YaYa: I just emailed all new stations within a 100 mile radius of my home. Everyone here should do the same so the new recall info gets out.

  35. robin says:

    It does kind of make one wonder if they even get close to matching up the ingredients on the label with what really gets dumped in the can. I’ll bet the stuff going in the cans for the so-called holistic companies is no different than what Wal-Mart buys from them.

  36. Ann H says:

    How much more salvage pet food went into the recycle circle from this?

    Ann H, truly depressed with the mentality of PFI and it’s members.

    If Menu Foods is on the board of PFI, APPMA or any other industry group and is there for another day, the whole lot of them deserves to be made part of the problem by our Congress.

    “The PFI
    Washington, DC, April 26, 2007 – The Pet Food Institute (PFI), which represents U.S. pet food manufacturers, today announced it asked the U. S. Trade Representative Susan C. Schwab and the Commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration Andrew von Eschenbach for swift action to answer questions about how melamine, a substance foreign to pet food, ended up in specific ingredients from China.”

    The needed to be cleaning up their own house.

    Now, they need to ask Menu why the devil didn’t they test their products and find the cross contamination themselves!!!!! Sanction them within their own industry!! Something to prove sincerity.

    Lip service to safe foods just got “rendered”.

    Ann H

  37. Anonymous says:

    If Menu Foods had any cahonies, they would have done a press release to make sure people know. I have yet to see them do anything other than whine that ChemNutra did this to them.

    Oh and thanks Mr. Henderson, what goes around comes around….you killed thousands of our pets, had you stepped up sooner, you could have saved so many of our loved ones, not that you care, which is obvious!

  38. KatieKat says:

    Sorry than was me

  39. cats_in_jammies says:

    Dear Itchmo
    Would it be too much to ask that you date and time your posts? With the recalls happening the way they are, it would really help to know when these posts appear on your great blog. Thank you!
    - T.S.

    ITCHMO ADMIN: They already appear at the bottom of the posts in the gray block…

  40. Ellie says:

    lanie Says:
    Which manufacturing plant/plants is Menu referring to? Does anyone know if the bad wheat gluten was used in the North Dakota plant? I’m using Innova canned for my cats now in hopes of avoiding cross contamination since they said none of the recalled products were made at the North Dakota plant. Can I still hope that is true?
    —–
    They don’t specifically say, but logically you’d have cross-contamination only in the same two plants that made the food in the original recall–Kansas and I don’t remember the other one.

    Natura/Innova had been saying that its food was made in a different Menu plant, and nothing from them is on the new list, so I think you’re probably still safe enough–so far.

  41. JanC says:

    Can’t say I’m surprised but I’m sure getting angrier by the day……I don’t think this will ever end. I feed my dog only dry…..waiting for that shoe to fall when they start recalling a bunch of dry food.

    I would say anything that’s made at Menu (any plant), ANI or Diamond should be off limits for a while……I was afraid of cross contamination. Any food that’s made in any of those plants should be considered suspect. I really believe this is not the end of it. Why they are trickling in & not just recalling everything at once is beyond me.

    I’m more than stressed…..I’m freaking out……

  42. JollyCat says:

    I still want to know WHERE DID THE OTHER TWO BATCHES OF WHEAT GLUTEN GO????????

    PURINA?????

    hmmmmm????????

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  44. Ellie says:

    I wonder if Wysong is still happy with Menu.

  45. CC says:

    SusanUnPC or 3catmommy…

    Would one of you be willing to post more info on By Nature Organics at the Pet Food List thread on that brand? I have been emailing the company for 10 days for the magnesium and phosphorus analysis, and haven’t heard back. If there are reasonably low, I’d like to try that food.

    Thanks.

  46. Cathi says:

    I’m looking for a guy by the name of teric. He had 3 different cat foods tested and I was wondering about the results. Thanks.

  47. L.L. Wright says:

    Why has Natural Balance Venison & Brown Rice not included on the list of recalled food, when it has in fact been recalled?
    Please up date your list accordingly.
    L.L.Wright

  48. Miss Jami says:

    YaYa, If I may, care to share the recipe you are feeding to your cat(s)? I took mine off manufactured food the day the recall hit and she was eating the chicken as though I were a goddess but now…won’t eat the chicken (am I shocked? they were probably fed contaminated grain) and is ’stuck’ on a fish slurry I am making. I need to get more variety in her on a larger scale…anyone?
    Thanks ever so.
    And Genny, you ‘expletive away girl!!” They need to hear it at PFI!

  49. robin says:

    Henderson is Canadian and Menu is on the Toronto board but they manufacture here, and I can’t see why the feds are not all over him on his stock bail-out in light of the tainted foods. Here he is putting the recall on hold until he gets finished padding his pocket while cats and dogs die. The guy should be in prison. What did he call it something like “unfortunate timing,” yes, especially for the pets eating his tainted deadly crap.

  50. straybaby says:

    Ellie Says:

    They don’t specifically say, but logically you’d have cross-contamination only in the same two plants that made the food in the original recall–Kansas and I don’t remember the other one.

    LOL!~ i can’t BELIEVE you dared to use the word *logically* ;)

  51. Cathi says:

    Genny….I know how you feel. My cat was on Natural Balance and my vet bills are high too. I hope your pets will be okay. This whole thing is horrible. Good luck.

  52. Angelbaby says:

    It is about time that this recall has happened. It was just a matter oof time before animals get sick, I am so sorry for the animals who had to lose there lives over this. Why aren’t the FDA looking at the other carcinagens that they put in foods. BHA/BHT and Ethoxiquin that are in some of the foods, hint!hint! HILLS!!!!

  53. anneh says:

    I make my dog’s food (meat/veg/brown rice) BUT we are feeding a feral cat so can someone please tell me what to get , have to admit we have been giving a can of Friskies daily and now not sure if it is safe :(
    anneh

  54. menusux says:

    I check their site at least twice a day–checked it this morning and there were no new additions. Keep checking it because they added recall items to the lists before without notification. Was reading what was on the PetSmart “pull” pdf list for 5/1/07 and started getting suspicious when I got to the new additions for Nutro, and decided to have a look at their site–there it all was, dated 5/2/07.

    In light of this, do all the companies who needed to “re-evaluate” their dealing with Menu still need to do so?

    The answer should be VERY clear. It would seem that all occurrences from the beginning of this consititute breach of contract by Menu and a company need not continue their relationship with them unless they wish to do that. Not unless you enjoy seeing your brand name in the wrong kind of headlines and being boycotted by those who know you contract Menu Foods. It would be far less troublesome just to close your doors than to let Menu put you out of business.

    Also wonder what tune Wysong’s gonna be singing after this? For all they know, “cross-contamination” could happened to their brand next at a Menu Foods plant.

    Proof of the old saying that there’s no honor among thieves (Menu & ChemNutra)–they’re equally guilty, but each is bending over backwards trying to implicate the other.

    MENU SUX FOR SURE!

  55. Gudewife says:

    Hey AAFCO…explain to me again why there’s no legal requirement to clean machinery between production runs….

  56. robin says:

    Does anybody know by who and where the Natural Balance Dog rolls are made? I am showing my dog this weekend and am afraid to use them. Anybody with any homemade ideas-please post.

  57. Ann H says:

    Look on PFI for dear Kurt’s email addy.

    http://www.petfoodinstitute.org/

    And, don’t forget

    http://www.appma.org/

    Ann H.

  58. Annie says:

    Why the hell didn’t all these pet food plants close down and clean out the place. My God, what are these people doing it’s May 2,this nightmare started March 16. ,oh lets not forget the 3 weeks they keep their fat mouths shut while they sold their stocks. THEY DIDN’T CARE ABOUT THE PETS THAT WERE DRYING EATING THIS POISON.

  59. Flamin says:

    Sheesh, maybe by next month they will get to the people food. Looks like it will take that long to finish the animal food/ feed, bee protein feed. It’s to wide spread, so they will wait till people start dieing off, since they have no clue how much is toxic to humans.

    The FDA and Codex are totally brain dead. And these Eeeeediots want even more power!

  60. Kaffe says:

    Natural Ultamix cat canned foo is on the new list of recalls. Natural Ultramix is a Castor and Pollux product; yet Castor and Pollux’s website still maintains that all their foods are safe. I just bought a coupl of cans of Castor and Polux Organix for my two boys to try thining that surey since it is a certified organic pet food it must be safe. Now, there is this “cross contamination” thing! I have only fed one of the cans and noticed nothing different. Even so, I think I’ll withold the second can. What next? Yesterday, I bought Evenger’s; Evo; and Nature;s Variety Prairie raw rabbit. I am rotating my cats’ food so much with home-made stuff to that I am amazed that my cats have not been having belly aches!

  61. Norris says:

    requirement to clean machinery between production runs….

    I’m Celiac can’t eat wheat gluten, I’ve been wondreing about people food production too. I posted and hinted about cross-contamination last week.

    mmmm I like M&M’s Mars? wonder where my M&M’s came from.

  62. YaYa says:

    You know, I was just thinking some of this through.

    The Cross-Contaminations could be in several places.

    Where the actual “glutens” are stored, before the pocessing part of the plant; and the it could be in the actual: mixing, cooking or testing rooms? Anywhere else you could think of? Equipment that moves such Huge loads of the ingredients could be “dirty” too I spose.

    I don’t know Which of the Menu Foods Plants it could be {and they ain’t talkin’!}, {it doesn’t really matter does it at this point}; But, They just had the FDA do a Raid there {in Kansas} last week right. So you’d think they would have CLEANED things STERILE! Before, during and after!

    The thing is, that the AMOUNT {of the contaminants}that it would take, for such a Lab results to show this NOW {and since the March Recall},

    Would have to be CONSIDERABLE in SIZE of Contaminants.
    What are the odds of 2 seperate Lab results NOW showing up Positive???

    {this says Volume {Big}, to me personally}

    Unless they thought the whole mess had passed and they were scot-free?

    Now It IS *Their* Responsibility {or lack there of}. As they admit it IS Cross Contamination. That Can’t be Blamed on an outside source.
    Don’t see a way out of it, this time, for them.

    Yep, would have to be a hefty amount IMHO.

    And all those poor people who thought the Bad ’stuff’ had been remove and gotten rid of.

    We’re right back where we Started.

    No Chances Left Now Menu Foods. It’s OVER!

  63. DaveyD says:

    It’s time they (or someone) posted a list of every damn product they make…You have to believe that nothing they manufacture is safe… Pet owners deserve a list of every thing they make…NOW
    I’m sure P&G and Purina don’t want a list like that to come out.

  64. robin says:

    DavetD,

    Good idea and in every plant they own.

  65. menusux says:

    We need T-shirts and bumper stickers:

    Save A Pet: Boycott Menu Foods!

  66. Stephanie says:

    Kaffe-

    Castor and Pollux now has it up on the recall page of their website.

  67. KatieKat says:

    lanie, I use Innova as well, i only have a couple cans left but decided against getting anymore until I see if Menu is goign to keep making it, or if Natura will go ahead and find other canning facilities.

    I personally have not heard about anything be recalled from Menu’s South Dakota plant. If anyone knows differently please tell us?

  68. Stephanie says:

    Menusux

    I would love one of those T-shirts.

  69. nancy says:

    Absolutely disgusting. Another recall triggered by a pet parent, not by menu, because they didn’t clean the freaking equipment. So what else got cross-contaminated? bacteria, molds, aflatoxins, allergens into hypoallergenic foods? Why didn’t they test ALL the foods they manufacture when the recall happened? We need to put them out of business ASAP.

  70. Love my dog says:

    I AM JUST TOTALLY SHOCKED AT ALL THESE RECALLS I HAVE A BAG OF KIBBLES AND BITS MINI AFTER THERE GONE I’M GOING TO START MAKING MY OWN DR. FOX HAS A GREAT ONE ON HIS WEB SITE AND ITS EASY TO MAKE AND ITS VERY HEALTHY HE HAS ONE FOR DOGS AND CATS THANKS A MILLION ITCHMO FOR ALL YOUR NEWS OUR NEWS PAPER HASN’T HAD ANYTHING IN IT ABOUT THE RECALL IN ABOUT A WEEK OR IT MUST BE SO SMALL I DIDN’T SEE IT THANKS AGAIN MJ

  71. DaveyD says:

    ITCHMO….It’s time for all readers to find out EVERYTHING they produce, recalled or not…and start listing them. All pet owners deserve it.

  72. Deb says:

    I work part time as a product rep……NO pet products.

    Complaining about product lines in the store…..will not get the product pulled…..HOWEVER……DAMAGED PACKAGING WILL!!!!! Either the rep or the store will pull it and send it back for credit. The downside of this some stores to massive donations of damaged packages to shelters (the stores that do this usually post the cause). WE as consumers have to take action…anyway we can…..consider it public service work (LOL)!

    For ANI….is there a complete product listing anywhere??

  73. elizabeth says:

    Not sure I’m buyin’ the “cross-contamination” story. I think it’s more bad ingredients and possibly something that was NOT on the labels and NOT supposed to be in the recipe per Menu’s contracts. Just a hunch, here.

  74. lanie says:

    ellie-
    thanks for your input. I’m hoping that the North Dakota plant wasn’t contaminated. I don’t trust them though. who knows what they really put in the foods when no one’s looking.
    katiekat-
    I’m paranoid about the Innova but I’m sticking with it for now. have you found another canned cat food not made by Menu? my cats won’t eat foods like Felidae that have chunks of rice in it, so I’m at a loss. I have to find a company for raw food that works (I tried 2 in the past and had problems) or start cooking myself…

  75. Deb says:

    Norris….I think M&M is still being produced in Hackettstown, NJ.

  76. Renee says:

    I am beyond words right now, just so frightened and disgusted. Fox5 News here in New York City just spent a whole 22 seconds on the topic- ‘Contaminated Chickens that has developed from the pet food recall back in March’. Yeah, very informative Fox5, thanks for nothing! The newscasters read about 6 sentences of information, showed a quick flash of a KFC restaurant and that was it, onto the next topic….American Idol Chatter, which of course is what people really want to hear about. Ugh, I’m sickened.

  77. Wendy44 says:

    Yes, we need a complete list of everything made my menu and American Nutrition, recalled or not. Boycott Hills while your at it too, they pump their prescription diets full of synthetic toxins!!!

  78. Lorie says:

    JanC Says:
    I would say anything that’s made at Menu (any plant), ANI or Diamond should be off limits for a while……I was afraid of cross contamination. Any food that’s made in any of those plants should be considered suspect. I really believe this is not the end of it. Why they are trickling in & not just recalling everything at once is beyond me.

    Remember Blue Buffalo kitten dry formula was manufactured at CJ Foods not ANI so CJ Foods should be avoided also.

    From ITCHMO article april 26th where is blue buffalo really made

    C.J. Foods was sold (and recalled) as Blue Buffalo’s Spa Select Kitten Dry Food.

  79. justjeneric says:

    I decided last week to either home cook or go raw so I ordered Dr. Pitcairn’s Complete Guide to Natural Health for Dogs and Cats. It came in the mail tonite and, let me tell you, after reading most of it, I don’t want to ever eat again let alone feed my dog processed food. Simply disgusting what goes into pet food - and a lot of human food, too. How can they get away with it - what does the FDA really do?

  80. menusux says:

    What about this:

    We have a fairly good idea what brands are produced by Menu; what about returning any non-recalled Menu-made items you may have to the retailer you bought them from for a refund and/or store credit for another food? Mostly all of them have a “satisfaction or your money back” on their labels.

    It sends a message to large stores who contract them to produce their “house brands”, it sends one to those labels who contract them to produce their brand(s) and it sends one to Menu.

  81. Deb says:

    Annie…..my thought too about the plant shuts…..I have years of MFG’ing experience (not food) behind me. During the year it was normal to shut a machine down for emergency repairs, all sorts of issues. Once a year we shut the entire floor……rebuilt machines, did code work, cleaned etc. This was a normal practice. In fact when America’s major industry was MFG’ing….the first two weeks of July was the tradation shutdown period nationwide. I think we can list the reasons why the plants didn’t shut down…..we can start off with lost productivity….concern for quarterly numbers…..I would really like to give these folks the benefit of the doubt concerning stupity….for some reason I think someone just forgot to think this out all the way….GEEZ….the place has be extremely dusty.

    I have this feeling…..if and when they do a plant clean up……it will be outsourced to a Haz-Mat crew.

  82. Laurie says:

    RE: robin’s quote:

    Oh, the final straw (is this really true?) the CEO of Menufoods DUMPS HIS STOCK[?!!!!] prior to announcing the recall? [I need proof of this to believe it….]

    Ah……why aren’t these *#!%@#)@ prosecuted?! The level of corporate/political greed is maddening! Really, we are reliving the era of the Robber Barons and the beginning of the Fall of Rome! (perhaps hyperbole….) But, really!!! What happened to positive role models? Even our President certainly is not one! Argh…..

    # robin Says:
    May 2nd, 2007 at 9:20 pm

    Cat Lady,

    I agree with no more Menu ever as well as no more Am. Nut, again ever. They don’t clean between runs. Hell, they might waste a pound or two of product. These jerks don’t ever deserve a second chance. They cut the corners buy buying the cheap chinese glutens, not cleaning the equipment, putting stuff in the can that wasn’t on the label, they made their own bed so let them sleep in it. Oh and don’t forget about the criminal ceo of Menu who dumped his stock prior to warning the public of the tainted food.

  83. Flamin says:

    Why are these pet food, animal feed, fertilizer, insect feed business, waiting for the FDA/Codex to do something! Why don’t they have the decency to test their products themselves, and recall their products. These companies know who they are, and what the bleppin *censored* is going on! They know even if they say made in the USA, or whatever country, they buy cheap ingredients from China and don’t mention that on their labels!

    This only one internet site, companies buy cheap ingredients from
    http://www.made-in-china.com/

    I have a Celiac child Norris, all our food has these ingredients in them. Vegetarian food too. The FDA says they don’t need to recall chicken, or hogs, because of the “dilution” and that people don’t eat chicken 3 times a day, every day! But what about the Vegetarians, Celiac’s, or people with special diets!
    This IS what we eat every day! For the love of God , What’s wrong with these people!

  84. Amy says:

    Deb - Opened cans would count as damaged packaging… many pet foods have pop tops… I’m not saying anything but if those pop tops somehow got popped open then they would have to be pulled off the shelves and the food wouldn’t be suitable for donation… that’s one way to get ‘em off the shelves… but you didn’t hear it from me ;)

  85. Wendy44 says:

    For any of you wondering about the status of Natura’s opening thier own canning facility, I have sent them an email We’ll see if I get a response.

  86. Lisa Clay says:

    After the first recall, I stopped feeding food made at ANY Menu plant, even though the product was NOT recalled. Although I must have appeared paranoid at the time, I am feeling justified in my paranoia.

    The only foods I am feeding now are Halo Spot’s Stew, Evangers (when I am able to find it), Artemis, (which I just ordered and the cats like) and Merrick.

    Deep down, I have doubts about ALL the products made, but right now I am trying to keep the faith in the products I am feeding.

    Again, KUDOS to Itchmo for all the hard work. I signed up to vote for your site as best Animal Blog.

  87. stephie says:

    I don’t know why more people don’t just feed raw. our cats & dogs are carnivores after all, they’re not meant to be eating wheat gluten! animals that eat a proper raw diet don’t get renal failure, diabetes, inflammatory bowel disease, & allergic dermatitis etc etc.
    it’s a total myth that it’s bad & people & animals will get sick.
    a myth that has been perpetuated by the pet food companies telling vets who believe them!!

  88. Sandy says:

    Itchmo Admin, I do not know how to contact you privately..sorry…..but the ads that are pet food related on here all say SAFETY APPROVED See the ads….who approved them? I know you have nothing to do with this but you may wanna ban all petfood ads on here…false claims ?

  89. Genny says:

    Jami: When I was reading your post b/4 I saw your siggy , I thought “Gee, that sounds just like Jami. (I want to call them all the “C” word but I don’t ever say that one so I’ll refrain.) How’s Gumba???

    Cathy: Thanks so much. Which Natural Balance flavors were your kitties eating and how are they doing? Hope they are well.

    This is OT but since everyone is here or will be, I’d like some advise and opinions. I posted this question over the w/e on another Itchmo blogg but it must have been too late and didn’t get any response.

    My cat kept trying to pee w/o success and then would lay in his litter box. Vet said he had distended bladder and catherization revealed crystals. He said it was not related to poisoned food, just high ph balance and recommend prescription SD or Purina something Vet brand - of course. I told him I did not trust any SD products or most of anything at this point. He then suggested Purina One which I told him he’d been eating b/4 all this crap started. Told him what he’d been eating recently….Inovva, Wellness and just started Kumpicat…all dry and several wet w/o glutens. He said this can happen on premium food, also, and crystals probably started when I changed him to these foods.

    I know cats get these crystals, esp. males, but what do you all think about his theory of switching from a store brand to premo foods bringing on the crystals? I don’t know what to think any more. Any opions appreciated.

    Thanks!

  90. K.C.'s mama says:

    How can we avoid buying anything manufactured at Menu Foods since the labels don’t give that information!!????
    This is waaay past the point of being ridiculous!!

  91. ~Martha~ says:

    robin,

    I called Natural Balance and asked them who made their meat rolls. They told me the meat rolls are made at their own plant in California.

    But then they also told me ANI was not going to be the next plant to recall…..and that very afternoon of my call they DID just that!

    I am hoping the rolls are still OK. All my doggies are 13 years old or over and a few of them are not eating the chicken like they were at first when I started home-cooking….so I have resorted to filling in with the rolls again.

  92. Deb says:

    Ann….pop tops…yeah. Dented cans….bad for the company’s rep (LOL)…they go back to claims too….of course you spaz out and drop at least a dozen of them….brooms in grocery carts pointed at a certain angle….big points for that one!!!! You can almost clear a shelf. Hint….grocery stores….no one is ever in pet….the big retailer the staff all take break at the same time. Bags……I slipped with a box cutter today…took out several bags…pens poke holes in bags…..you know dog food bags make a real good table top….when you need to check something off your list. Consider it dumping ketchup on that garnish on your table……spare the next person….LOL. Sorry…..we all have to find ways to amuse ourselves at work. I pretty much don’t get questioned because I am a vendor….if I do I tell them I am doing a study on the pet industry for my masters….it works like a charm. I really have to find a better box cutter….mine is neon green. Oh yeah……then I make it a point to show the staff the damaged bags……of course I go back and check to see if they are in claims. In grocery….I just take the damaged goods back myself…..but I know everyone I am dealing with.

    This whole thing is annoying the cr*p out of me.

  93. Amy says:

    Genny - I would get a 2nd opinion I think your vet might just be trying to sell you the prescription food he gets kickbacks on. Ugh hate to say it but we all know just how greedy all these pet industry people can be. If you do a quick google search on something like ‘premium pet food and crystals’ or similar I think you’ll find the answer. Here’s just one site I found where they explain how the prescription diets prevent crystals by eliminating magnesium which is actually essential to your pet’s diet

    http://www.acreaturecomfort.com/cathealth.htm

    here’s another:

    http://en.allexperts.com/q/Cat.....ystals.htm

  94. MRB says:

    Dr Pitcairn’s Book is an excellent resource. We refer to it extensively in our research.

    The recall is likely to continue to grow as contaminants in commercial dog food are revealed under the light of laboratory analysis independent of pet food industry hype.

    See what is included in pet and dog food, but not bragged about by the manufacturers at:
    http://www.dogs-4life.com/stop.....kills.html

  95. Nancy Payne says:

    My youngest cat developed a bladder infection in March. My oldest cat developed sores all over his body in January and is being treated for an immune system problem. My third cat ballooned up to 21 pounds over the last couple of months. My dog started having behavioral issues, got a bladder infection in December and started marking in the house. In December and January Nutro was giving away free sample foil pouches of wet cat food if you purchased a certain size bag of dry food. This is the same exact food that was recalled. All of my cats and my dog were eating Nutro. I have been struggling with this for 5 months. I have charged about $1,300.00 in vet bills. My vet switched all of my cats to Hill’s Prescription Diet z/d (this is a hypo-allergenic food) in March before the recall, thinking it was a food allergy problem. I am paying $48.00 for a 10 pound bag of dry cat food, and the small cans of wet z/d cat food are $1.85 per can. The bladder problems, sores and weight issues are getting better. After the recall, I switched my dog to Canidae Chicken and Rice formula dry food. His bladder problem seems to have resolved and he stopped marking in the house. Think of all the furry kids out there who are still sick but not showing clear cut symptoms. I have to keep taking all 4 animals back for lab work to the tune of $45.00 for each urinalysis, and $65.00 each for blood work. This has not only been a nightmare for me, the animals freak out every time I get the carriers or the leash out, thinking they are on their way back to the vet for more owies. We feel betrayed that our food sources are so unreliable that pets and maybe people are getting sick, not to mention the financial hardship this has caused. I have to take off work to take my animals to the vet. What about all the cranky, out of sorts animals and humans out there that might be sick from this that have not been diagnosed yet. I am researching raw and natural diets for my animals. I worry about the food I feed my family. I feel like the FDA/USDA really let America down.

  96. Wendy44 says:

    Genny, although I’m not a vet or anything, one of my cats has urinary crystals because his urine is too alkaline. He was put on Hills c/d to lower the pH. I recently switched him to Flint River Ranch, because it says low magnesium, ash, and pH controlling acidifiers like DL -Methionine. So maybe the foods you were feeding before were controlling his urine acidity enough, and the new ones aren’t? Just a guess. But he will need to be on a special diet for the rest of his life, and there IS an alternative to crappy Hills. Have your vet check out Flint River Ranch to see if it would suit him.

  97. Amy says:

    Yeah, Deb, I’ll just play dumb blonde as I walk down the aisle accidentally tearing open the pet food bags with my keys… oh, oops, did I do that? Aw, darn, I’m so sorry! Oh, I’m not supposed pull on these rings on the tops of the cat food cans? But I LIKE rings! Durrrrr… just a dumb blonde… silly me!

    I have officially had it up to HERE with all of this… I’m irritable and grumpy but thankfully my girl cat is doing so much better. She goes back in on Friday to recheck her kidneys. Of course the vet is on PTO that day but I’ll have results on Monday.

  98. menusux says:

    Menu itself has provided quite an extensive list of the products they make for large chains and branded products:

    http://www.menufoods.com/recall/product_cat.html

    http://www.menufoods.com/recall/product_dog.html

    Just take a look at the names of the foods on both of their recall lists above. Not all of the various product lines for the chains and branded products were recalled.

    You see, for example, that Menu makes Ol’ Roy pouched meals for dogs, and that they make Special Kitty pouched meals for Wal-Mart as well. You see that they make Nutro foods, and so on. So, returning and/or not buying these brands is the way to boycott Menu. We know Wysong deals with them, so they’re on the “list” re: boycotting too. Menu has told us mostly every large company they deal with on that recall list–all the way to Nestle/Purina with Alpo & Mighty Dog.

    For the branded products, Menu’s been kind enough to give one a link to the branded company’s website–the Mighty Dog listing on Menu’s website takes you to mightydog.com. And from there the next step takes you to Nestle/Purina, the parent company.

    Menu’s provided a lot of useful information for this, I think.

  99. Cathi says:

    Genny….My cat is on Felidae now and doing much better. I had him at the vet again on Friday and she pushed Hills a/d and Royal Canin on me. 3 cans of each. She told me if he didn’t eat this food, he will get very sick. I refused to take it and she got pretty upset with me. (He was having a hard time adjusting to the Felidae and wouldn’t eat it.) I was pretty upset about the whole vet trip and am looking for a new vet. What a nightmare.

  100. robin says:

    Martha,

    Thanks for the info on the rolls. I’m new to showing my dog and the rolls work great for bait in the ring. I’d make my own if I knew a decent recipe.

  101. Ellie says:

    lanie Says:

    I’m paranoid about the Innova but I’m sticking with it for now. have you found another canned cat food not made by Menu? my cats won’t eat foods like Felidae that have chunks of rice in it, so I’m at a loss. I have to find a company for raw food that works (I tried 2 in the past and had problems) or start cooking myself…

    ——

    Have you tried Merrick? They say they make their own food, all U.S. ingredients. My cats love some of their flavors and despise others.

    I had been feeding Wellness, but they use both Menu AND American Nutrition, and I’m not comfortable with them anymore.

    I’m a vegetarian, and I can’t stand the thought of preparing my own cat food. And already we know there’s contaminated chicken out in the human food supply, so how can we be sure even home-prepared food is safe?

  102. robin says:

    Laurie,

    I will try to dig up a link, need to go tuck my horses in. It was all over Itchmo and Pet Connections a few weeks ago. I think it was toward the end of Feb when Henderson sold half his Menu stocks. I thinks some of the msm also covered it. Google and if you don’t find it, I will, when I get back from barn.

  103. redmal says:

    I just gotta say, Itchmo, you all are the best. And Steve - I’m always amazed with the amount of dirt you dig up. I feed home cooked so haven’t been directly affected, but I just cannot get past the amount of crap those involved with these dealings are able to get away with. Who, in their right mind, would even hire Luba with his past history of lack of quality control, inability to maintain adequate records and seemingly blatant disregard for even minimal, common sense practices. Oh yeah, and WTF? Menu’s plant was closed for what, about a week and didn’t clean their equipment? WTF?

    Hope that all pups & kits affected recover and go on to live long and more healthy lives.

  104. Ellie says:

    I have a link to the story about the Menu CFO selling his stock: http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01691.html

  105. A. Sledge says:

    Very curious indeed. We have an eight-year-old dog who is the light of our lives. She had a full check-up last June and a clean bill of health. She began having issues last July—didn’t want to eat her kibble, tremendous loss of muscle mass in her temporal region (vet thought cancer), weird results on blood tests…just as soon as we ruled out one thing and got it cleared up, something else would begin. Once cancer was ruled out, our vet determined that there really wasn’t anything life-threatening, just symptoms to be managed. We’ve had over $3000 in vet bills since then. We had been feeding Hill’s Science Diet weight loss for about 3 years and changed back to Purina Dog Chow Little Bites which she ate for a little while. Then when she didn’t want that, we used peanut butter, all of those nutri-gravy concoctions, and Nutro in those little foil pouches. In October, the tips of her ears began to get hard and crusty, turning black and little bits falling off. It’s now controlled and slowly healing, but all of this just makes me wonder… We saw 3 different vets, had every test known to veterinary science run, saw a specialist and all were stumped. The only thing that was ever speculated was Post-Parvo Syndrome since she was a shelter pup that we adopted at about six months of age and she became very ill two days later. The vet who saw her then suggested it could be parvo, but we nursed her back to health. He has since destroyed her records since it was more than five years ago. Anyone else see anything weird like this? We took both dogs and the cat in a couple of weeks ago for full blood work-up and urinalysis which came back “clean”, but the vet did notice a borderline high Creatine level in the kitty.

  106. JollyCat says:

    roflmao

    ok, I have to agree that somehow seeing Pedigree advertised on this site is really pretty funny all thing considered

    I bet the big boys are itching to get their names associated with itchmo!!

  107. Tricia says:

    I’ve just switched my dogs from Nutro to Canidae. I know Nutro’s dry food hasn’t been recalled (yet) but I don’t trust them anymore after having their wet food recalled. Does anyone know who manufactures Canidae’s food - wet and dry? I’ve read nothing but good things about Canidae and just hope that their name doesn’t show up on the next recall list.

  108. booklady says:

    I’ve been following the recalls closely.. have been very fortunate not to have been affected by them, though at about the same time as the recalls were first breaking, our 10+ yr old pom was diagnoised with kidney failure. (related to the meds he’d been on for years for congenital heart failure) He passed April 19th. It was hard and terrible, even though we’d known since the day we brought him home 3 years ago that this was likely to happen eventually, and there is no reason that anyone should have to go through this because of tainted dog food.
    Fortunately, our other 2 dogs are doing well, and their foods haven’t been added to any of the recall lists. I’m also hoping that the prescription diet we had left over remains safe. I donated it to a local rescue after Rocky passed..

    So far though, the 2 brands we regularly feed are good.. Wellness brand (Old Mother Hubbard) White fish and Sweet potato and Avoderm Vegitarian (Breeder’s Choice), both dry foods… they are pretty good foods, neither contain any wheat, they do have some rice, but mostly they seem to use soy and barley as the main grains.. we had to base our food choice on our other pom, Pepe who has food allergies and can’t digest animal proteins very well, so is only allowed fish and veggies… (and what few brands are available here in Alaska…)

    I’m angry, but anger alone isn’t going to save our pets. Write your congress persons, your mayors, the city council, the president! write to every news source you can think of, post links to details in every email, blog, or web site you can think of. Get the word out and be annoying! :)

  109. Pam says:

    Deb & Amy — I know you’re probably just kidding around, and I certainly understand your anger and frustration, but please be careful. Lots of stores have surveillance cameras, so you could end up paying for items you damage or, even worse, get hit with criminal charges.

    On the topic of the ads on this site (this is not addressed to Deb & Amy), please give Itchmo a break. We’re here using this site and getting all sorts of wonderful information and support and not paying a penny. Just ignore the ads if you don’t like them, but don’t criticize Itchmo for doing what it takes to keep this great site available for all of us.

    Okay, now I’ll shut up. I’m pretty upset myself, because two of my human friends were diagnosed with cancer — one with bladder cancer yesterday and the other with kidney cancer today. I’m so angry I could spit and irrational as it may be, I blame Chinese melamine and cyanuric acid.

    ITCHMO ADMIN: Yes, as odd as it may be, the ads (and donations) help to pay the bills for this site’s expenses. We do appreciate feedback on the ads as this is new to us and learning and we don’t have full control over what Google decides to show on the site. I don’t think anyone was criticizing us though.

  110. robin says:

    Ellie,

    Thanks for providing the link.

    Laurie,

    It was Menu’s CFO who dumped the stock, not the ceo as I had said. Little difference. It would be nice to see if others might have done the same, like who had stock in wife’s maiden name etc. It stinks.

  111. Amy says:

    Um yeah, Pam, was totally kidding… :)

  112. robin says:

    The list of all the foods that menu and am nut. is a very good idea. Then all of us need to provide it to friends and neighbors who are not following this as we are. And ask them to pass it on. Hit them in the pocket book, that they will understand. Included should be how Am nut. put the wrong ingredients in and the long laundry list of menu’s sins.

  113. Tammy says:

    Does anyone know why Purina’s Mighty Dog New “Select Menu” canned foods have not been recalled? They do contain wheat gluten.

  114. Krystal says:

    I just posted this at Pet Connection, but wanted to see what feedback I could get here, too:
    On Friday, I had bought a can of recalled Paws food at my local Wawa. I called Menu Foods, who confirmed for me that it was indeed a recalled can, since all date codes for that UPC were recalled (date code is 10/09, so its not on the recalled list). I called Wawa, made a consumer complaint, waited to hear back. (also left a message at my local FDA - this is last Friday, I have yet to hear back). After Wawa and I playing phone tag for a few days, I got to talk to some people today. I told the first Quality Control Supervisor that all dates on recalled UPCs were pulled, per Menu Food’s site. She checked the site, said she would talk to her manager. The new manager called me back, said he had gone through it with a Menu Foods rep (told me all the reps are doing is checking the website - so, in other words, Menu Foods’ reps really can’t help us other than looking at the same websites we can all see - isn’t that great?!). Anyway, what they came back with is that Menu Foods had later changed the stuff about recalling all date codes (they recalled everything, while they were trying to figure it out, I was told). Assured me my can, per the rep HE talked to and what they found on the website, was not recalled. Now I see this new recall…this date’s not included there, either. Date’s before and after my can are recalled, though.
    Questions: Anyone else noticed this discrepancy? If cross-contamination occurred for cans with expiration dates AFTER mine, wouldn’t that mean all the cans in between are cross-contaminated? Wawa assured me they were trying to stay on top of this - but why was I told my can was recalled, and Wawa told it wasn’t? If I call Menu Foods again, will it be recalled or not? I’m confused, and don’t know what I should do…Should I call Wawa again and point this new info out to them? Menu Foods? What does this mean in general? Don’t worry, it’s dog food and I only have cats, so it’s not like the food’s going to be eaten. I’m just worried because WAWA is a huge convenience chain here, and most of its customers for pet food are looking for emergency food or are elderly, so are probably not well-informed. Furthermore, I think the date codes in the middle issue needs to be addressed. Any thoughts?

  115. Gary Russell says:

    Unless I am mistaken some Iams wet cat food was originally on the recall list. Is this so? Please advise.

  116. krystal says:

    Gary,
    Yep, Iams was one of the first things recalled. Go to http://www.itchmo.com/recalls.html

  117. Deb says:

    Of course we are kidding…..I know where the cameras are.

    I am really sick of the store clerks, explaining lot numbers to me……sounds like corp smeal……reminder here…..I was in mfg’ing for my real career…..I do see the humor of a 17 year old retail clerk explaining this one to me…again I consider it this entertainment. I always ask some really stupid questions…….I love the answers they make up. The shame of it is……I have a real good working unstanding of lot and run numbers……but the people who don’t……just may believe this stuff.

    Look back at the last year….the spinach e-coli…..that was all over the news……still being talked about. I do understand people died from….so it is different. But the number of death for this wheat stuff…is mind blowing….and every day it is changing…..it’s in the human food chain….as consumers we have to question every thing. Personally I doubt the pet food products and the human food product coming in from China are different. The major media is treating this like the ‘red headed step child’ no one admits to. It’s sickening.

    Amy…..I am trully sorry about your cat…..it is a tough enough thing for you and you cat to go though (been there)….the cause for the condition makes it worse. I’ll think about you when I am at work tomorrow.

    I requested MSDS sheets on the IAMS product line . After all, the products are toxic. I doubt they will answer me…..I’ll keep on trying until they…..I’ll post the response.

    You know what is on our local news……Britney Spears in ‘concert’ . On a real good day I do not care about Ms Spears…..apparently the news station needed to take up air time tonight….I am going to tell them what I think about this one.

  118. Judy Boone says:

    Anneh–
    I feed my ferals “9 Lives” wet when I called them and they assured me they are safe. I sure hope so- my two feral females could not be trapped and both just had babies (about three weeks ago) I also feed “nine lives” dry and meat scraps from my meals so far they seem absolutly fine My fifteen year old house diva is still on “FancyFeast” wet and “Purina Senior” dryand all the “Wiskas” treats she can con me out ofMy two dogs eat “Pedigree”wet and several kinds of”Purina ” dry foods I have called all of the above companies several times -each time they have said their food was OK I even received an e mail from “Purina ” stating this. I love my babies and pray they remain well and extend my sympathies to all the pet parents whose babies were sickened or went to “RainBow Bridge”
    Judy
    Fort Worth
    Tx

  119. Genny says:

    Amy - thanks so much. I’m afraid to trust any vet, at the moment, and I’ve been going to this vet for over 10 years. He suggested SD c/d and Purina UR ST/OX…first ingrediant was corn gluten meal and I know Purina One has corn gluten, also. I know I need to do some research but my eyes are so burnt-out from 36 hours of no sleep this w/e.

    Wendy - I don’t want a vet’s opinion. Look how many of them pushed their crap on patients who only got sicker. I trust the experiences of all you bloggers more right now. He did say the problem would most likely come back w/o a prescription diet. How did your cat take to the Flint River Ranch? Can you get that online or from vets only?

    Cathi - I left the vet in tears from his somewhat stubborn attitude about the SD and my poor, sick kitty. How did you get kitty to eat the Felidae? I’m so glad he is doing better and hope the trend continues.

    Thanks to all and still welcome others opinions and experiences.

  120. krystal says:

    Deb,
    Please check out my recent post:
    Krystal Says:
    May 3rd, 2007 at 12:19 am

    Given your background in manufacturing, can you tell me about these in-between dates, and the likelihood of contamination?

  121. DukenCC says:

    O ya about the package damaging, they are sometimes donated to shelters. Just read that somewhere??? My head is spinning from all this stuff I don’t know what I am reading or where I am reading it….
    Love to all on Rainbow Bridge and luck to us who aren’t!

  122. Helen says:

    Are they ever going to get around to testing the protein concentrate fed to honey bees? This could easily explain colony collapse disorder, which started during the same time frame as this crisis (November). We can’t GROW any crops without bees to pollinate. Colony collapse hit US, Europe, and Taiwan all at the same time.

  123. Claudia says:

    Hey everyone,

    Don’t know if you’ve read this article on Menu Foods, but it might provide some information for those seeking damages through lawsuits. It is a piece done by Maclean’s Magazine here in Canada (a reputable mag,). I just wish someone like 60 Minutes or Dateline would take this on.

    It’s entitled “Pet Food Scandal”

    http://www.macleans.ca/busines.....326_104326

  124. Judy Boone says:

    TAMMY

    Pedigree says all their food is safe I will forward the e mail they sent me. I have called them several times just checking- my two kids are still eating “Pedigree”wet and I try to be a good pet parent so I keep up to date with daily “ITCHMO” checks-I love my babies
    Judy Boone
    FT. Worth
    TX

    April 25, 2007

    Dear Valued Purina Consumer:

    Nothing is more important to Nestlé Purina PetCare Company than the health and well-being of the pets whose nutrition has been entrusted to Purina products by their owners. The loss of a pet or a pet’s illness due to pet food contamination is unacceptable to us, and a tragedy for those involved.

    We want to take this opportunity to provide you with some valuable information about the recent limited recall of two Purina products - ALPO® brand Prime Cuts wet dog food and Mighty Dog® brand pouch-packaged dog food - and the possible confusion surrounding wheat gluten as a safe and good ingredient used in pet foods.

    Nestlé Purina associates, most of whom are pet owners, feed Purina products. All of us are working diligently and with a total commitment to address and resolve this situation; to respond to concerns of consumers, customers and veterinarians; and to take the necessary actions to protect the health and well-being of the millions of dogs and cats who eat Purina foods.

    We want you to know that wheat gluten, in and of itself, is not the reason for the recent recall of ALPO Prime Cuts canned and Mighty Dog pouch products. According to the FDA, the recall was due to a contaminant, subsequently identified as melamine, which was found in specific lots of wheat gluten.

    Wheat gluten is a rich natural protein extracted from wheat or wheat flour. Purina has been using wheat gluten in its products for nearly twenty years without incident. In fact, the same quality wheat gluten that is used in pet food products is also used in human foods. Because we believe you might be concerned or get asked about the role of this ingredient as a result of the recall, please click here for a summary of the current facts surrounding this issue.

    On April 16, the FDA announced that a quantity of rice protein concentrate also was subject to melamine contamination. Purina does not use rice protein concentrate in any of its U.S. or Canadian products. We do know it as a commonly used pet food ingredient and normally another good source of protein when not inappropriately manipulated through contamination.

    We also want you to know that our already rigorous evaluation and food safety program for our raw materials has been reviewed and enhanced to now detect melamine. Despite the fact that melamine is a completely foreign substance to food and should not be found in wheat gluten, we are now testing every lot of wheat gluten received for the presence of this contaminant. Further, we are implementing additional technology to further screen our pet food ingredients.

    We encourage you to review “The Facts about Contamination and the Pet Food Recall,” and share it with those you feel may be interested in the information, in order to provide clearer information surrounding the recall, wheat gluten and its important role in the production of our pet foods.

    We pledge that Purina is doing everything possible to continue ensuring each ingredient that goes into our products is safe for pets. Please know that nothing is more important to us than protecting the health and wellbeing of the millions of dogs and cats who eat Purina pet foods. We continue to cooperate fully with the FDA during its ongoing investigation and rest assured, we will continue to take the appropriate actions necessary. This is a responsibility all Purina associates take very seriously.

    We are confident that consumers can continue to place their trust in Purina products.

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  125. Cindy says:

    FOR ALL OF YOU WHO ARE COOKING CHICKEN FOR YOUR PETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Make sure you are buying your chicken from an organic whole foods store where you can contact the source of their chickens and find out what the chickens are being fed!!!!!!
    Kadejan chicken is SAFE!!!!! If you can find a whole foods store that sells Kadejan Chickens. I spoke at length with them today–their chickens are fed grain grown in Minnesota, and gfed no animal by products of any kind.
    Also–Solid gold dry cat food seems to be safe–my cats are thriving on it.

  126. Rose says:

    My 12 year old dog eats Natural Balance Duck and Potatoe - no grains,
    I mix a bit of the can into the dry and as treats she gets the little carrots, which she is absolutely nuts about. Have to tell you, since she eats that, she has to go 3 to 4 times to the bathroom and her gas is real bad, but she is healthy. My son feeds his pups twice a day a home cooked meal:
    rice, potatoes, chicken, or beef or turkey and lots of veggies and they nibble all day on dry duck and potatoe, but they love the home cooking.
    We won’t take any chances after we lost 2 dogs of kidney failure between February and March of this year.
    Thank you Itchmo for your fast e-mails for every re-call.

  127. ~Martha~ says:

    Robin,
    You’re so welcome. Those rolls certainly get the dogs attention!
    It I find out anything else, I’ll let you know.

  128. ~Martha~ says:

    It=If
    [time to call it a night!]

  129. ouizee47 says:

    Linda,
    I had just got my Shih Tzu puppy when she was barely 8 weeks old. I’ve had her for 2 weeks?? now I think, and when I first got her, I was afraid to give her any puppy chow, or wet food even. Sooo, I did a total no no and abruptly switched her over to food (human food) that I cooked for her myself..chicken (white meat no skin or bones etc), potatoes, carrots and some dry oats, and a little bit of the powdered milk (NOT mixed with water). Alas, she did just what I knew she would…got the runs really bad. Sooo, stopped at a feed store down the road from us and found Diamond brand puppy chow..tiny bites for tiny breeds. They have recalled their canned wet foods but NOT the dry..so far. They supposedly make it themselves rather than outsourcing it. I do hope that’s true…this little pup loves it…was able to chew it dry…whereas the stuff her breeder sent home with us she could not eat even after soaking in hot water awhile!

    Yes, it is scary..I’m afraid to buy rice for my hubby and I to eat…then again…ANY veggie or fruit you take chances with e coli etc. Pork may now have melamine in it, beef is chancey as it “could” be the cause of mad cow disease, and then chicken..well..shall we just say bird flu? :( There is nothing left in that case..oh and can’t drink the water or breathe the air due to pollutants! Sad world we live in these days.
    ouizee

  130. SaraL says:

    Folks, my eyes are gritty from crying and from reading all these posts for the past week into the wee hours. Today I lost my second dog out of five that were poisoned by the Natural Balance Venison and Brown Rice . Alot of people have posted links and recipes on this site which I have been checking out to find a solution to my feeding dilemma and some look very promising. At present I am feeding homemade for my three remaining dogs and get large quantities of canned tuna, salmon, chicken and beef at Sam’s or Costco for my cats. Maybe Itchmo can group these links so everybody can research them for themselves. Also Dr. Pitcairn’s book is on my “to purchase tomorrow” list. The only way to make these companies responsible is to totally boycott ALL their products including M&M’s. Hurt them in their pocketbook. Making your own pet food is not hard just a litle time consuming so I make a couple of batches over a two or three day period, bag it and freeze it. What I am looking for is a good complete supplemental vitamin to add to their food. BTW, my vet bill to date stands at around $16,000.00 and it includes 2 necropsy’s perfomed and sending tissue samples of the livers and kidneys to be biopsied at a lab

  131. peopleandpets says:

    I feed Natural Balance Sweet Potato and Fish (dog has allergies but all 7 eat it) and a small amount of rolls every day. Have been for quite some time. Everyone is fine. I am sticking with them cuz…where ya gonna go? Dont tell they arent making darn sure everything is ok. I also live near the roll plant and have seen them made myself (at Natural Balance). We were taken on a tour.

  132. peopleandpets says:

    SaraL, sorry, I was writing when you posted.. So sorry for your loss. Did you send the vet information to Natural Balance?

  133. Wendy Reyn says:

    I feed California Natural lamb and Rice adult and top with Wysong meat and water only canned, or By Nature Organics Chicken and water canned.

    If anyone hears of anything, PLEASE let me know, I remember when going to a dog show was my biggest fear …. now it’s what they eat DAMN!

    It still floors me, the $%@! these people get away with.

  134. Genny says:

    SaraL - I am so terribly sorry for your loses. I wish I could do something to console you and the 1000’s of others but there really isn’t. I’ll tell of the advise or wisdome that my Dad gave me, a long time ago, after a devastating time in my life…..”no matter how bad things are now, something good will come from it.” It took a long time for me to understand what he meant but many years later I “got it”. We can only hope that all of our babies will not have died in vain. That restrictions, laws, lables, imports, fda and the government will hear our collective voices and things will change. My best to you.

  135. High Note says:

    I thought Menu Foods was just a canning place. They do not make the food or rice protein or wheat gluten. All of those things get shipped in to them. No one has bothered to put two and two together yet. The FDA went to the Emporia Plant again in Kansas and now Menu foods is recalling more pet food. Don’t you all think that it had something to do with what they found at the Emporia Plant? I am from Kansas and there is a meat place up there in Emporia. They also have a chicken package place up there. Cross Contamination could mean many things. It could mean the meat was contaminated before it even got there. We all might ask ourself where else the meat may go? Other plants? Maybe! Menu foods mixes all the ingredients and cans it. But where do they get all the ingredients? This is my worst fear!
    Everyone is saying that the dry is safe, but is it? Why is it in the chicken feed, hog feed, and animal milk and horse treats? I am so very angry now that I have read that they are not going to recall the chickens that are in our food chain. How dare they let us continue eating them! They do not know for sure what it will do to any of us. It has never been tested on humans or animals before. My dog was eating the tainted alpo. I took him to the vet and they said he was okay. I was very surprised. He has not been himself at all. I told them he would not eat. I wondered at first if it was because he had a change in food. I have given him several different kinds just trying to get him to eat. He would not eat the evo at all. dry or fresh. I tried others. nothing. I took him back to the vet because i felt there was something wrong. He will eat his treat in the morning but not eat in the evening. I changed and tried feeding him in the morning. that did not help. I mixed up chicken, rice, carrots. Nope i tried hamburger and rice, nope. He would eat like every three days and not that much then. the second time i took him to the vet. He was okay again. she said that there could be something else wrong with him and maybe cancer or something. I said well since he did not have a problem till this recall I do not think so. I tried mixing with macaronie, all sorts of things. He just would not eat it. I finally just gave him some a chicken breast and chicken livers. He ate it all. I thought well he just will not eat with the carbs.. and at this point I don’t care.. I just want to get something in his body.. He had only lost five pounds when i took him the second time to the vet. But I am sure he has lost more by now. WEll I thought I will just feed him the chicken and chicken liver again tonight. He would not eat it. He acts like he is so hot. He is panting but not that heavy. But it is only sixty degrees out there. I do not understand why he will not eat. He is walking okay. he is wagging his tail and getting up to be petted. Just acts hot. I do not know what to do now. I have been giving him vitamins from the vets and a calicum tablet. I also got some yogurt that was plain for his dijection, the vet said that would help.. nothing has. The vet also gave him a vitamin b shot and said maybe it would boost his appetite but it did not help either. Has anyone out there just had their dog act funny like this, like they are only hot and have a loss of appetite? I cannot afford any more vet bills at this point. He is a beautiful pure bred collie and looks like lassie. He is so very loving and sweet and I am having a nervous breakdown wanting him to eat. and do not know what to do to get him too. I really need the help. He has never ate dry at all and will not touch it. He does not like holistic food at all. I tried some organic and he would not touch it either. I do not have any thing left.. Do not know what to try to get him to eat. I have thrown away so much stuff with no success at all. Just that chicken and chicken livers that one night. and a little turkey that he would only eat if I had fed it to him and begged him to eat it. got any ideas? I sure could use them.

  136. Linda P. says:

    Sara L. -
    So sorry for your loss. I hope your remaining dogs do well. I know it is difficult deciding on a good food for your cats, but I would not suggest that you continue feeding the tuna, salmon, etc. that is “people” food for the long term. Cats have very specific nutritional needs, especially taurine, and do not do well on that canned people food for very long. Would not want you to have additional problems arising out of good intentions.

  137. Genny says:

    High Note - Has he ever eaten any kind of people food that he liked? Maybe you could make him some gravy and mix some kind of meat with it. Maybe he’s missing the gravy saucey stuff from the Alpo. Heck, what do I know. I have cats and they wouldn’t think of ever eating any people food, cooked or raw.

  138. Sylvia says:

    Pam says,
    “because two of my human friends were diagnosed with cancer — one with bladder cancer yesterday and the other with kidney cancer today. I’m so angry I could spit and irrational as it may be, I blame Chinese melamine and cyanuric acid.”

    My husband’s co-worker went into kidney failure last week. Had his last kidney removed. He had pre-existing disease but wouldn’t he then be most sensitive to these toxins? I did try contacting the FDA to see how that system they have in place to get notified about spikes in kidney disease would work. (The CDC is supposed to be reporting this to them.) Got nowhere there. Called the CDC, they know nothing about it and transfered me to the NIH. The lady there knew about it, but thought the CDC was in charge. I told her they had sent me to her. So she gave me a number for the National Kidney Foundation. I called and got a message machine. Took a break at this point and forgot about that whole issue until now. I also thought of calling local dialysis centers to see if they know to report new human cases.
    Do you get the feeling we are on a big, ship of fools? As in the Titanic?

  139. Sandy says:

    This is crazy ..I have written WELLNESS…AKA Old Mother Hubbard a few times….they reply with…call us or leave your phone number…all I asked was do you ..or have you…used AN as a source for your rice protein…they will NOT commit….BACK IT GOES

    I called Natural Balance because lets face it…they have had a few recalls…and cross contamination came to my mind..I had questioned their venison treats in this site and in email well before they recalled it…I called caused I get the run around in email and get some lame ass punk…who sez about the Fish dog food and Duck…THISIS A QUOTE ” It’s pretty safe” Uhhhh pretty safe isnt good enough and he would not..didn’t know on AN

    I suspect both of these companies…Its odd their websites last I looked did not mention AN

    ITCHMO ADMIN …THANKS I am glad YOU knew I was not putting you down when I mentioned the ads..I know you are busy and can’t be reading all of them…..and thought it might/could be a concern if you didn’t see them and their claims

  140. Krystal says:

    Excerpt from my post on Pet Connection:
    I’m confused about the changes. So I called Menu Foods (again…into the lion’s den).. My UPC code was affected before, I’m sure of it. After all, I called last Friday. (Was told it was definately a recalled can - today, the store that I bought it from called Menu Foods, confirmed my date was NOT a recalled can). Tonight, I gave them the UPC code only (no date) and now suddenly, that UPC code is clear. I went to the website. Per the site, my date is clear, but the UPC is not. Call back, get the same guy. He starts asking my ?s about my dog (I don’t have one). Maybe I screwed up, but I just want an answer.So I tell him, it doesn’t matter how old my dog is, is this can recalled or not? He goes, well, we need your dog’s age. I say, I don’t have a dog. Is it recalled or not? He shut up pretty fast and said he would pass my info on to Menu Foods. HOW CAN THE MENU FOODS CUSTOMER SERVICE TELL ME A RECALLED UPC ON THEIR WEBSITE IS NOT RECALLED! He wasn’t showing it recalled - but I had the page right in front of me!! OH my God, what are they telling people! I wonder if anyone else were to call with a recalled UPC (not even mentioning date code) would get the same line!

  141. Myrtle Pfister says:

    This whole thing is just a mess..and I do not think it will be over any time soon, sad to say. I did feed the Nutro pouches to my cats as well as the Nutro canned 3 oz ones..they miss it…I had recalled batches, but thankfully my cats did not die…they did show signs of kidney problems but the lab work came back ok , except for 2 of my 4 cats came back with Hypothyroid ….which is rare in cats….usually it is hyperthyroid. They have been losing weight…and drinking more water…I had an ultrasound on one and she has a mildly enlarged spleen…who knows why..so it will be watched. I stopped using any Nutro can products now…I do have some dry Complete Care and some of the hairball dry and some of the roast chicken food….I am researching dry foods now…I am afraid the Nutro dry will get recalled next..I took back any Natural Balance I had ,any flavor..I had come to the point…as some of you have…no more foods from Menu foods for me or American Nutrition. I had used the Spa Select hairball dry and the small cans of Spa Select.I returned all of that. I had some Sophisicat stuff in the cans that had not been recalled…but I took them back..do not want any of Menu foods stuff..
    I bought the Felidae dry both the platinum and the one for cats and kittens..these girls do not like it..However, I tried some canned Felidae they loved…I have also begun with the Merrick foods…I ordered a sample packet of food from HealthyPetNet and they all love it…sort of pricey for the regular bags…but they love it and it is safe…not on recalled list…they have an impressive website.. www.healthypet.net .I will order it…and I also have a small trial bag of Artimis for them to try I got at a health food store…
    Anyway, these are some things I have tried…just to pass it along..

    Thanks Itchmo for keeping us informed…you are my rock in this crisis with all the pet foods….Your work is so appreciated…Myrtle Pfister

  142. Julia, Pet Chef says:

    I don’t know how universe allows CEO of Menu to sell his stock pending waiting till its too late to svae lives to annnounce recall. This man should be forcefed melamine and nothing else. no water for him. what a sicko. animals are better than humans. their nature is more respectable and gentle. it does not seem natural for the Menu CEO to forget he should look out for th integrity of his product. he does not care about other pople nor animals. they very wealth that makes him fat, yachts, planes, vacations, wealth, wealth wealth. i hope he is miserable and i am sure he is. a real tyrant and a real scumbag. probably a bbig baby and no backbone whatsoever. i wish i wish he goes to jail and gets fed that crap, with me;lamine in it. what a horrible way to casue damage to others. I prepare pet meals and tapas, using a ll natural finest freshest flavorful meats in Upper East Side, NYC. I cook for many cats and prepare soem raw meals too. cats are best suited to a healthy raw diet. no chemicals. All natural. Free range chicken, quail, hen, rabbit, turkey, liver, gizzards, thus natures best meal for kitty. gives him calcium, protien, amino acids, fresh live stuff - what kitty needs. thanks be to Our Glorious Father God for these precious fur babies. may they rest in peace. never allow big business to reign again. don’t buy. get some chicken, get a grinder, go. or coo it if you must and separate it from the bones if you cook it, at least kitty won’t be eating commercual poison, that you pay for. what a mind cluster, making each amercn feed their kitty posion. i am madd.

  143. Genny says:

    Myrtle - just throwing this in the mix. I’m hypothyroid and we should not use any soy products as it blocks thyroid hormones used in the body. who knows what junk is in cat food and if soy does the same in cats.

  144. Julia, Pet Chef says:

    I prepare pet meals and tapas, using a ll natural finest freshest flavorful meats in Upper East Side, NYC. I cook for many cats and prepare soem raw meals too. cats are best suited to a healthy raw diet. no chemicals. All natural. Free range chicken, quail, hen, rabbit, turkey, liver, gizzards, thus natures best meal for kitty. gives him calcium, protien, amino acids, fresh live stuff - what kitty needs. thanks be to Our Glorious Father God for these precious fur babies. may they rest in peace. never allow big business to reign again. don’t buy. get some chicken, get a grinder, go. or cook it if you must and separate it from the bones if you cook it, at least kitty won’t be eating commercial food, from companies that have not been forthcoming about ingredients.

  145. WOLFIN says:

    TO CINDY:

    I CALLED GIANT EAGLE HEADQUARTERS YESTERDAY. I WAS TOLD THAT THEY RECEIVED LETTERS FROM ALL OF THEIR CHICKEN SUPPLIERS (PURDUE, BELL AND EVANS, AND THE STORE BRAND, WHICH THEY GET FROM “MOUNTAIRE CHICKEN”), STATING THAT THEIR POULTRY IS NOT CONTAMINATED. THE MAN TO WHOM I SPOKE, BILL SMITH, SUPPOSEDLY IN CHARGE OF MEAT PURCHASING FOR ALL OF THEIR STORES, SAID THAT MOUNTAIRE CHICKEN IS LOCATED IN DELAWARE. I RAN OUT OF DAY YESTERDAY, BUT INTEND TO CALL THEM TODAY.

    I’VE BEEN FEEDING CHICKEN, TURKEY, AND CHICKEN EGGS AS MY ONLY PROTEIN SOURCES FOR ABOUT SIX WEEKS NOW, AND SUPPLEMENTALLY SINCE LAST MAY!

    I INTEND TO CALL NATURE’S BIN, MY SOMEWHAT LOCAL ORGANIC FOODS STORE, TO FIND OUT WHETHER THEY HAVE FRESH, ORGANIC, CHICKEN AND TURKEY THIGHS, AND CHICKEN EGGS, AND SHOPPING THERE ONCE A WEEK. I STILL NEED TO FEED WHAT I HAVE IN THE HOUSE FOR NOW, AT LEAST FOR A COUPLE MORE DAYS.

    I NEVER ASKED ANYONE ABOUT TURKEY, NOR HAVE I SEEN IT MENTIONED ANYWHERE. I HOPE THAT THIS WON’T BE IN THE NEXT WAVE OF “POISON NEWS”.

    BLESSED BE.
    WOLFIN )O(

  146. Genny says:

    Sandy - I emailed Old Mother Hubbard asking who manufactures their dry cat food. Pretty much got the same response:

    Thank you for taking the time to call us regarding the recent pet food
    recall. To better answers your questions we ask that you call us at
    800-225-0904 and reference the number at the bottom of this email.

    We look forward to speaking with you.

    Thanks again for contacting us.

    Nicole Bibeau
    Specialist
    Consumer Affairs

    I emailed back that I only asked ONE question and I couldn’t call. Still no response.

    Melamine enemas for all of them.

  147. Sylvia says:

    Helen,
    Your question on the possible relationship to colony collapse is really interesting. I forwarded it to the president of the West Sound Beekeepers’ Association here in WA state. He is very nice and answered a question I had once before, so I’ll post somewhere here if I hear anything back.
    AND I gave him a link to Itchmo. What a super site this is! I have a very hard time reading of the suffering and am so sorry for what so many are going through. I have lost 2 dogs to cancer, (lymphosarcoma and hemangiosarcoma in the past 10 years. And the little terrier I have now had mast cell cancer 2.5 years ago. His health is up and down anyway, but I THINK his foods are O.K. Mostly he eats a frozen raw buffalo food and some California Natural Health Bars. (Rice and lamb.) For what it is worth, the raw food seems helpful with his health.
    Praying for you and trying be an activist for food safety!

  148. Tiff says:

    Myrtle,

    Where did you find the food samples on that site? All I saw was an advertisement for Healthy Pet Veterinary Hospitals?

  149. Tiff says:

    Never mind. I figured it out. It’s healthypetnet.com

    Thanks!

  150. Anonymous says:

    Does anyone know which Menu Foods plant makes Life’s Abundance? Their “field reps” are driving many of us crazy. These salespeople are posting ad nauseum on mailing lists repeatedly saying Life’s Abundance is the best, and implying that your pet will be safe and healthy if it eats Life’s Abundance, but you might pay big vet bills if you don’t buy the stuff. When asked how they could promote a product manufactured by Menu Foods, they are remarkably silent and just go back to repeating that Life’s Abundance hasn’t been recalled.

  151. Tiff says:

    Anonymous,

    They can keep repeating that Life’s Abundance hasn’t been recalled till they’re blue in face! I was considering them till I checked and saw they use Menu. No, thanks!

  152. Moony says:

    If you’re having trouble getting a store to take back any suspect foods that aren’t on the list yet, you might do what I did, which was to email Petco and ask about returning it, and then print out and take their answer with you to the store when you return the food. They really can’t argue with it.

    I did pickup a bag of C&P Organix as a possible backup if my remaining cat didn’t like the Honest Kitchen stuff I ordered, but the bag will just have to sit for a while…’cause he DOES like the Honest Kitchen stuff. :) He had some Felidae to tide him over the two days it took the HK stuff to get here. I don’t expect him to live too much longer (kidneys pretty much done for), but at least he’s chipper and has good food to eat now. I’m also giving him some electrolytes and vitamins. Does anyone know of any holistic herb or anything that might boost any remaining kidney function?

    Oh, and the vet DID try to tell me about prescription diets, but relented pretty quickly when I told her I’d pretty much decided on HK already. She did say there’s a prescription supplement we could use, but not exactly what so I plan to ask her its name when I hear from her about the blood tests.

  153. MEK says:

    KC’smama: You can find out which foods are manufactured by Menu Foods by checking the list of foods not on the recall list at Petsitusa. Therese has mentioned any Menu connection after each company. That way you can also see which one’s are not associated with Menu. Here is the link:

    http://www.thepetfoodlist.com/petfoods_pg1.htm

    Tricia, you asked who makes Felidae/Canidae. They are made by Natura.

  154. xyz says:

    Helen, Sylvia- (sorry, OT everyone, but the time frame is interesting)

    From what little I’ve gathered on Colony Collapse the large, commercial hives have been greatly affected. One keeper from TX mentioned two crops last pollinated before CCD hit his hives. That would be an interesting topic to follow up on. I have not heard about organically raised bees. The last I heard Alabama has not reported, yet surrrounding states have. The CCD map isn’t up to date and doesn’t reflect 27 states mentioned. If Alabama bees haven’t been affected the one thing that stands out is that they apparently do not allow out of state hives into the state, other than for transport through. Alabama also had a number of huge (and I mean HUGE) wasp nests reported in the last year or so. Another thing I’ve not confirmed is the possibility that a fungal infection common to humans has been found in bees.

    The X-Files never ending season …

  155. Sylvia says:

    Julia, Pet Chef,

    With tough New Yorkers like you out there, I know we will prevail! Keep praying for us and making the wonderful food.

  156. Sylvia says:

    xyz,
    Did you see this film?
    http://www.koyaanisqatsi.org/f.....sqatsi.php

  157. Anonymous says:

    Tricia, Very sorry about that-I’m half asleep. I made an error on my last post. Canidae/Felidae is not made by Natura. (Natura makes Innova products.) I realized that after hopping into bed, so I am back at it again! Canidae is not connected to Menu Foods. You can look them up on the link I gave above to Petsitusa “foods not-on -the recall list”. I have used Canidae dry feline for a month, now. We should all be asleep right now ;)

  158. MEK says:

    Above post by me, yawnnn…

  159. ThursdayNoos » Cat Blogosphere says:

    […] Foods Recalls MORE Pet Foods due to cross-contamination! Please read the list and info here. (Mom Robyn can’t keep up […]

  160. Kiki says:

    Someone’s chickens are contaminated…

    Anyone trying to figure out what Menu Foods brands are not yet recelled - I have only this to ask you…

    In light of everything that has happened, why would you even continue to be their customer? Unbelievable.

  161. Kiki says:

    Guess what I’m saying is that I personally don’t care if every piece of kibble made by Menu Foods gets recalled. They lost a customer for life in the first weeks of the recall due to their actions/inactions.

  162. Erwin says:

    The post states: The recall also expanded to include 2 varieties in Europe. As we live in Europe, we are very interested in these particular varieties.

    We give our puppy Avoderm imported from the US, this seems to be safe, their website says there has been no recall for this brand. Of course I mailed them to ask for confirmation that this variety is safe, as the slogan “no recall yet” is not so satisfying, probably I won’t get a reaction soon as I guess their helpdesk is overloaded… Still we are confident in this brand.

    @Itchmo admin: as there are now two recall-lists: US and Canadian, when will the European list come? As there are two European varieties recalled.

  163. CathyA says:

    I don’t buy cross contamination. I think we finally found the other shipment of RPC

  164. HotMBC says:

    Thank you folks at Itchmo, PetsitUSA and PetFoodTracker so much for all your incredible work at keeping us all informed around the clock. We can’t say it enough. Thank you.

  165. Laurie says:

    High Note: Did your vet do a urinalysis and blood work? That should be done ASAP! If he’s lost 5 lbs., isn’t eating and constantly panting…it could be kidney failure. Please get him to the vet immediately if you haven’t already. (I don’t want to frighten you, but my female greyhound (12 yrs. old) had similar symptoms, and it (supposedly was kidney failure)…This all happened in January, b/4 the recall.

  166. xyz says:

    Sylvia,

    Haven’t seen it but I understand the concept. There are too may things that aren’t right anymore.

  167. Zoe says:

    Nature’s Variety finally answered my email asking about their ingredients. Jessica said that all ingredients come from the U.S. except flax seed comes from Canada and rabbit comes from China. I emailed back that the rabbit would be going in the trash.

  168. Zoe says:

    If Nature’s Variety rabbit comes from China, how do we know if it is really rabbit meat and not dog or cat meat? The frozen rabbit I bought has already been disposed of. I’m thoroughly disgusted.

  169. Carol says:

    I haven’t read all the posts above so sorry if this has been asked but does anyone know WHO and WHEN reported this contamination and what exactly is cross-contamination (I think I know but certainly want more details as I have been burned twice by Menu–If Menu’s rep is actually reading all of these, you might recognize me as I’ve emailed quite often and have called MANY times.) Between the continued recalls and my worry that now my grain-free foods for both cats and dogs have tainted chicken in them- it is getting hard to remain sane! I would like to know what the CEO’s are feeding their pets…

  170. CC says:

    Genny,

    There is good information about urine crystals in cats on many websites, including:
    http://catinfo.org/

    Please ask your vet which type of crystals they are: struvite (triphosphate) or the less common calcium oxalate. Most important thing–which is nearly impossible these days–is to find a high quality canned food with few or no grains and make sure the cat drinks lots of water. Although the low ash advice is very out of date, it is true that controlled levels of magnesium and phosphorus are helpful for struvite crystals. See also:
    http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc.....dcats.html

    But, most wet foods are formulated this way anyway and you don’t want to go overboard with low magnesium and acidification or the opposite crystal type can form. I just went through this and my cat got completely blocked and required surgery. Believe me, you don’t want to go through that. Do some reading on the internet, and try to find a vet that listens to your concerns about the food.

  171. Carol says:

    Has anyone gotten word from NV or Wellness as nothing new on their websites and I have not had my messages returned–in reference to the chicken products they use–not the cross-contam problem

  172. Rick says:

    3catmommy–
    Just thought you should know…I was in the local independant pet food store, and saw this new brand called “By Natures Organics” and thought wow! THEN I picked up one of their “packets” of wet food w/gravey, looked @ the back and at the very bottom it says “PRODUCT OF CHINA”.
    Be careful!!!! The store owner ws not happy about it, either, as the reps misled her about the product.

  173. Sharon says:

    Did anyone read the McLean’s article above? The reason Menu foods is so cost conscious is it’s relationship with Walmart. At the the heart of this whole mess is Walmart’s never ending quest to make a buck at any price, even the lives of our animals. When is someone going to sue Walmart?

  174. Carol says:

    SaraL– I read your post and am so sorry for what you have had to go through. There is nothing worse than losing a loved one and when that is due to something as innocent as feeding, there are just no words to describe it. Our beloved 4 legged kids look to us for their basic needs and that should NEVER be the reason they lose their life (and their battle before). My prayers are with you and your remaining loved ones. The stress of losing them as well as now wondering what to do so as to not go through it again is certainly being minimized by many. I think it was Harry Truman that said (something like this) “If you want a true friend, get a dog” I wish I had some info reading good advice for feeding to help you out–but I’m new to this too.
    Carol

  175. zoe says:

    Carol,

    It took Nature’s Variety a full week to respond to my emails about their ingredients. Newman’s Own answered within 24 hrs.

  176. Carol says:

    I’ve tried to let WalMart know that once the recall was announced and I confirmed my 2 sick cats’ food was indeed on the list-I called the manager at 7:45am on Saturday 3/17 at my local Walmart where I always bought the poison and reported my details to the manager but lo and behold my neighbor saw them “just starting” to take down the food on Tuesday, 3/20!!! Guess they thought I was just one of those “crazy cat ladies” well now they have made me a crazy mad cat lady. I never thoiught at that time that I would have had to double-check to make sure the food was not on the shelf–needless to say I did not want to go back there…

  177. Lani says:

    Did it ever occur to anyone that ChemNutra, Menu Foods, etc. were duped by the Chinese company that actually ADDED the melamine to the wheat glutin? There have been no tests for melamine prior to this as it was unheard of to add it to foods.

  178. Carol says:

    Lani, I agree that Menu and ChemNutra may have had trouble identifying the melamine (or whatever it turns out to be) but I know my fury comes from their delay in disclosing the problem to both ChemNutra, FDA and all of us…The CBC News has articles published March 16, 2007 at 5:57pm et and 4:03pm et that does say Menu had complaints “filter” to them through toll free customer lines in December. If that is true, I feel they were directly responsible for continued sickness and death after that—if my math is right that’s 4 months. I have printed articles from “day 1″ March 16 as my cats were in the middle of their “9-11″ to the present…

  179. CathyA says:

    Lani, it’s not the deed, it’s the coverup. It’s the delay, the obfuscating, the outright falsehoods. If it had been handled the proper way - honestly - up front in a timely fashion, from suppliers, to Menu Foods to most of the pet food companies to the FDA, people would not feel the way that they do. The other day I read that legitimate Chinese feed businesses hate the people who did this, BUT they also KNEW about this practice of spiking ingredients and did nothing to either bust these people or leak it to the US press. So they can all stew in their own chicken and gravy, AFAIC.

  180. Patricia says:

    Jan: They’ve been recalling dry food for weeks. The list grows daily and as a groomer I’ve recommended several holistic foods to my clients for years as well as had my own cat and dog on them. I don’t recommend anything now for fear it’s going to hit the list. Thus far one of the easier ways to keep abreast of the recalls is to daily go to recall sites:

    http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=main

    http://nationalpetfoundation.c.....ecall.html

    http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/.....oodrecall/

    I feed Dick Van Patten’s Natural Balance dry to my cat. However, since four of their products have been recalled this week (and it now comes out they are owned by Diamond Pet Foods) I’m looking to switch even though my cat is, so far, healthy and his particular food has not (yet) been listed. I’m heading for Flint River Ranch (I used to be a rep via my grooming shop) and again looking at Solid Gold and Innova holistics. FFR has assured me they do not obtain their food from overseas or Canada.

    If our own human grade chicken has been tainted I’m not sure it’s even safe for me to switch to feeding a raw diet. If I can find a ranch that can prove to me they haven’t been using tainted animal feed, I’ll be buying my meats directly from one of them soon.

    It’s not only time to make the PFI answer for their actions, it’s time to make the FDA answer to us for our human food chain too. Pretty soon are we going to find nothing is safe for people or pets to eat?

    JanC Says:
    May 2nd, 2007 at 9:33 pm

    Can’t say I’m surprised but I’m sure getting angrier by the day……I don’t think this will ever end. I feed my dog only dry…..waiting for that shoe to fall when they start recalling a bunch of dry food.

  181. 6catmommy says:

    Just great, now we have to worry about all those millions of chickens that are going to be killed, getting sold as feed too. Now I have to worry about my dog too. She was on Western Family Canada food. She seems ok. I switched her over to Orijen dry as soon as all this started. Her doggy ordor is gone too. My cats are all bouncy and have lovely shiny coats. They are on Orijen too now, instead of FF and Purina One. I notice the change right off. Even our old pussy toes is playing again.

  182. e wem says:

    Genny: My cat developed blockage after I switched to Walmarts premium dry cat food. My vet also told me switching foods can trigger the problem and tried to sell me ’special’ food. Now I am thinking was it the stress of changing foods, or was it changing to a food with melamine? Chinese have been using melamine for years.

    Since the first blockage oggie’s bladder is permanently enlarged. He had many painful episodes of difficulty eliminating. By accident I discovered emu oil lets him urinate.

    I take emu oil for my diverticulitis. It is anti-inflammatory, penetrates tissue. It has the good fatty acids like fish oil. One day I decided to give some to my cats. I cut open a cap and squirted it into their mouths. An hour later my nervous kitties were all konked out when they normally would be bugging me. Oggie, who had been stressed from continuing difficulty urinating was laying on his back paws in the air in total bliss.

    Just to see how it relaxed them I started giving them some daily for nutrition. Somewhere I realized Og had not had an episode since I had started the regimen. When the bottle ran out, in a couple days oggie couldnt urinate again. (Wake up to my kittie treading on my stomach, and urinating on me in pain).

    Buy more emu, and the episodes stopped. He has not had a blockage in almost two years now, although he has a huge bladder still. I don’t know if this stopped the crystals, or relaxed and enlarged the urinary tract. It worked for him.

    I buy my emu from llb because it is cleaned and refined and I cannot chance getting an intestinal infection. I haven’t tried other brands. http://lbemuoil.com/gel_caps.htm

    Emu really is anti-inflammatory. I can rub it on my hands when the joints hurt and the pain reduces every time

  183. Monika says:

    teric

    teric

    teric

    where are you? what happened to the results? if i missed the post can someone please update me. teric was getting Kumpikat and Felidae tested.
    waiting for results.

    thanks

  184. peopleandpets says:

    Patricia, Natural Balance is NOT owned by Diamond in any way. Diamond is merely a manufacturing plant contracted to make their product (and many others) to NB specifications. They were the first ones to identify this last problem (rice protein) and call the fda as well as the local media. They blew the lid off this and look where we are now.

  185. Genny says:

    CC,

    Thank you for the info. I’m so sleep deprived from this ordeal that the more I read, the dumber I get it seems. Vet said crystals were from high ph but he didn’t test so hopefully he was able to recognize the cyrstals on the caths he did.

    Believe me, I do believe you - anything to avoid surgery. What type crystals did you kitty have and what do you feed now? Was the surgery successful? Hopefully, it was and kitty is on the mend.

  186. pat says:

    did you happen to notice that this press release is slugged for business and financial editors? that pretty much assures it’s going to be buried, since it should be health/family/consumer affairs. business financial guys might give it a couple of inches in the couple of inch filler section, but it’s not the sort of news that really means anything to them. this is a deliberate attempt to bury the information while still being able to maintain that they issued a press release about it.

  187. TSham says:

    There are many premix foods to which you can add your own meat and veggies to. Also there are many books out there which give recipes, such as Strombeck’s _Home Prepared Dog and Cat Diets_.

    The fact that China has put amounts of melamine in glutens for years really makes me worried for human food sources as well!

  188. Tina says:

    Does anyone know where the canned By Natures Organics is made? I just ordered some and am waiting for it to arrive. I see several people saying that they were boycotting all Menu foods but are buying this brand. Noted on By Nature’s website under the President’s Letter is that some of their other canned food “Blue Seal” is made at Menu Foods but they conveniently don’t mention where their “By Natures” canned food is made!! All they say is that it doesn’t contain any wheat products which looks highly suspicious to me.

  189. Genny says:

    e wem,

    Again, thanks for this info. I am familiar with emu oil but didn’t know it came in capsule form. I wonder if the oil disolves the crystals? I would think the anti-inflam. properties would help with bladder and uretha, also.

    That’s interesting that your vet said the same thing about switching. IT’s a hard call to determine what the cause is really. I trust my vet for the most part but I don’t like the pushing of S/D or Scripted Purina from Vets only. Seems a conflict of interest.

    What are currently feeding?

  190. Joanne says:

    I’m confused about this list. Two days ago, your alert said that Canine Caviar Beaver and Turkey were recalled yet I don’t see them on this list.
    Can we get a list of every single recalled product listed by the name that the consumer would see on the can on the store shelf? Make it simple stupid for anyone and everyone to see and understand.

    Mine are on Solid Gold Holistic and I use Evo grainless canned to add to it so I feel confident that mine are safe. I do rescue work and all of the foster mom’s are following up with people who have adopted from us to make sure our former babes are safe.

    ITCHMO ADMIN: Joanne, Canine Caviar Gourmet Beaver and Turkey are on the recall list under For Dogs: Wet Food #12 and #13.

  191. GSD owner says:

    DaveyD,it doesn’t have the glutten in it,but it is made in the same plant where it is used in the other foods.

    I just got off the phone with the owner of the pet store I deal with.And he explained this to me.And it’s the certain dates that they are pulling off.It’s the fear of the cross contamination.

  192. Bea says:

    What europian foods are on recall, and in which country???

  193. ~Martha~ says:

    Mooney,
    You asked about holistic herbs…you might want to check out the PetAlive.com site ~ (by Native Remedies).
    ~Martha~

  194. EGB says:

    For all your kitty furbabies who do not drink enough water–and drinking plenty of water is important to kidney health whether or not they have had bad food– tap water has chlorine and other chemicals which are very distasteful to cats. We filter the tap water we drink and give to our kitties. Also to encourage them to drink more water, you can purchase electric water dishes that filter out dust etc and allow them to drink directly from the spouting water [like a drinking fountain.] Ours love to lap the flowing stream.

  195. MaxxPepperMom says:

    Just a few words to input - I have been using Wellness for close to 2 years for my two cats. One is now 11, the other almost 7. The 11 year old developed thyroid issues, abnormal kidney and liver values, and other symptoms that vets have been unable to identify. The 6 year old has early kidney disease and abnormal thyroid. Now you tell me what’s going on…I am irritated as h—–. I know I can’t say for sure what’s caused this, but come on now. Wellness is made at Menu Foods. I reported this to Wellness and got the same reply as everyone else - give us a call. Everyone thinks Wellness is okay; I say no. And, I am not the only pet owner that has been feeding Wellness and now their pet is ill. I know personally of others. I am at my wits end and feel so guilty for what I’ve been feeding them. I am currently feeding Merrick and Evo and keeping my fingers crossed.

  196. Hana B. says:

    So what does everyone recommend we feed our Cats?

    What foods have “NO GRAINS” as someone mentioned above?

    I am in a panic about what to recommend to adopters and people coming into our Petsmart as the public is in a panic and confused about what to feed their animals.

    HELP

  197. Lisa Clay says:

    I think there needs to be a law that states that all companies manufacturing food (pet and human) have to state WHERE the food is made and WHERE the ingredients are from.

    I too, decided back in March, not to buy any food made by Menu regardless of where the Menu plant is. That includes both Evo’s Canned Cat & Kitten food and Instinctive Choice Canned Cat food. Both products (which I have used) are made at the Menu location in South Dakota. They both state that their products are made to their standards, however, WHAT is the CLEANING STANDARD at Menu and how can anyone KNOW that their “safe” food, isn’t being produced on the same equipment as the rest of the food? Unless they have their own people ONSITE EVERY DAY, they CAN’T KNOW.

    Additionally, products not containing wheat-gluten were not TESTED because they don’t have it in their ingredient list. How can anyone be CERTAIN that wheat gluten didn’t get into their products. Again, THEY CANNOT unless someone is ONSITE EVERY DAY!

    I work in Corporate America and I know all about cost savings. When there are layoffs, many of the lowest paid people are let go, NOT the highest paid EXECUTIVES (like a MENU FOODS CEO for example). In most companies, the people cleaning the buidling are at the lowest salary level. Basically this means we are ONLY as SAFE as the lowest paid person at most of these factories. I am NOT criticizing cleaning people, having been paid to have done this task myself, but where there is LESS staff with MORE to do, NOT everything ALWAYS gets done.

    Just my rant of today after all the recent additions to the recall list.

    AGAIN, HATS OFF to ITCHMO!

  198. Helen says:

    Hana B.: You can get a good start by going here: http://www.thepetfoodlist.com/

    You can get details about foods and leads on grain free, non-Menu, etc. This is an excellent tool for research.

  199. 4lgdfriend says:

    JENNY: post your question on holisticat, where you can get a response from folks with more experience.

    CC Says: SusanUnPC or 3catmommy…
    Would one of you be willing to post more info on By Nature Organics at the Pet Food List thread on that brand? I have been emailing the company for 10 days for the magnesium and phosphorus analysis,

    you may find an answer here:
    http://webpages.charter.net/katkarma/canfood.htm
    http://webpages.charter.net/katkarma/dryfood.htm

    also suggest going to holisticat.

  200. Amy says:

    I just sent the following to Nature’s Variety, we’ll see if I get a response. I will be passing through Lincoln tomorrow which is where they’re HQ’d and this petfood crap has me just crazy enough to stop and have a nice little chat with them…

    Will you be addressing the newly updated recall on your website? I just switched to your food for my cats but am nervous as my female tortie has been on subcutaneous fluids the last week thanks to Natural Balance. NB originally posted in big red letters on their website that their food was fine but it wasn’t. The fact that you haven’t addressed the recall in over 2 weeks on your site makes me wonder if a) your food is actually safe so no need to address, b) you’re currently testing your food and keeping consumers in the dark, or c) you’re in denial. Please give an update as to how the latest recall has or has not affected your product. I’m not accusing, I’m just a concerned pet owner and as a responsible pet food manufacturer you do have an obligation to keep your customers apprised of the situation. Thank you.

  201. TEALCSMOMMY says:

    One of the dog foods I used for my 4 pound, 2 1/2 year old chihuahua was Life’s Abundance. I read in Itchmo about a poison called menadione. Well, the bag I still possessed with an expiration date of May 18, 2007 has this poison listed as an ingredient. I contacted Dr Jane Bicks the dog food originator to get to the bottom of this because I was told that the menadione was removed and it takes awhile for the manufacturer to make the change. Now on top of that I just read above that this is made in one of the menu plants! One week before the recall, my baby had his blood work done, routine for a dental cleaning, and the ALT liver enzyme result was 298 on a scale of 10-100. That’s tripled! My vet said he is being poisoned by something in his environment. I don’t know for sure if this was caused by the dog food or not. The other product I alternated with was Royal Canin Chihuahua 28 which currently is not on the list and I was told by Royal Canin staff that this one is ok. I have since been cooking for him and am in the process of purchasing Evanger’s. You can order directly from their website if you can’t find this in your area. They have a very large selection to choose from.

  202. Danielle says:

    To answer the question about where Canidae is made, a few days ago a pet food store owner (BoutiqueOwner) posted that the Canidae representative informed her the canned food is made by Evangers and the dry food by Pied Piper. There is no connection to Menu, Diamond or American Nutrition.

  203. JamesBtex says:

    Try this food, my dog loves it and so far it’s been safe, not on the recall list. They make formulas for about every kind of dog.

    James

  204. Ellie says:

    About Wellness.

    I called Wellness last week after other companies were accusing ANI of adding RPC. These are my notes from immediately after that phone call on 4/27:
    —–
    Wellness was extremely evasive. They did not want to tell me which foods were made at/by ANI. They kept saying all ingredients they used were listed on the label. I said that’s what Natural Balance and Blue Buffalo had claimed too, until yesterday and today when they said ANI had added RPC to their foods without their knowledge. The Wellness rep gave me a whole song-and-dance about how RPC is an expensive ingredient and it’s so strange that ANI would add it. I kept saying I didn’t care about all the philosophizing, I just wanted to know which Wellness foods were made by ANI. Finally what I got out of him was:

    No Wellness Dry is made by ANI.

    No Wellness canned kitten food is made by ANI.

    No Wellness canned cat food distributed in New York City [where I am] (and on the East Coast) is made by ANI. Dog food on the East Coast may be made by ANI; cat food in other areas may be made by ANI.
    —–

    Based on that, I decided it was relatively safe to continue feeding what I had on hand, but I am reluctant to continue to buy Wellness. Another friend also called them and got basically the same information from another customer rep.

  205. CatsRUs says:

    I was feeding my foster Chihuahua’s Natural Choice and we were slowly losing them. Because they were older, ended up at the shelter emaciated and ill, we kept thinking WE could do something. Our vet ran panels regularly, did urinalysis and as a last ditch effort…I switched to cooked foods. Within days we saw improvement…than blammo…the recall was first announced. I wonder who will pay the $1000’s of dollars back to my broke rescue?

    I lost at least 6 cats, my most recent a victim of the delayed recalls, he was eating Blue Buffalo. He was an old Sphynx I was fostering. The others with him were lucky, they were picky about the food.

    Thank Dog my dogs are on Canidae and my personal cats are on Prowl (dehydrated raw). But who knows? Every day brings new fear and loathing.

    It was hard enough to be a rescue volunteer that worked senior cats and dogs, but for the last 6 months I felt like the angel of death. I was in email and on phones daily with adopters who we sent out with many of the recalled products. Adopters who had NEW pets and did not have a historical relationship, did not know why the cat was vomitting or the dog had raging diarreah. New pets, new adopters, what a mess.

    Thanks for that Menu et al.

  206. PurrfectkittyRIP says:

    QUESTIONS

    1) Is this the first time menu/chemnutra has used the Chinese source?

    2) Is the spiking of melamine which many articles state is done all the time in China, what is happening to other countries they sell to, or was it just USA/Canada?

    3) What are the NEW sources of gluten and where do they come from?

    4) Have you seen this? where the insectide cryomazine breaks down into melamine when ingested by an animal????? = highyly used in gentically modified crops….

    By Michael W. Fox B.Vet.Med., Ph.D., D.Sc. M.R.C.V.S.
    snip: The Environmental Protection Agency identified melamine as a contaminant and byproduct of several pesticides, including cryomazine. People began to question if there is also pesticide contamination of the wheat gluten. Was there a possibility of deliberate contamination, or was it the result of gross mismanagement and lack of effective food-safety and quality controls that account for levels of melamine reported to be as high as 6.6% in FDA analyzed samples of the wheat gluten?

    The widely used insect growth regulator cryomazine is not only made from melamine. It also breaks down into melamine after ingestion by an animal. Wheat gluten is wheat gluten, fit for human consumption, so the question still remains, what was wrong with this imported gluten that it was only bought for use in pet food?

    On April 6, 2007, FDAs veterinarian Stephen Sundlof told CNN that the melamine found in the contaminated wheat gluten from China could actually have been added ascheap filler. Melamine crystal is a urea-derived, synthetic nitrogen product that is used as a fertilizer that could have been added to the wheat gluten, But in fact it is NOT cheap. Fine Chem Trading Ltd Special Offers lists China Melamine Price Indication for 1 metric ton at $1,130, while other sources list China wheat gluten at around $750.

    How this melamine got into the gluten is still an open question, and some toxicologists still doubt that this is the main cause of so many dogs and cats becoming sick and even dying from kidney failure.

    As for the actual origin of the melamine, this chemical is the parent of a widely used crop insecticide called cryomazine that is actually absorbed by plants after being sprayed, and is converted into melamine. This could be the source of gluten contamination, and was why the gluten was not considered fit for human consumption. But melamine, according to Dr. Sundlof is not very toxic as a chemical. Since it was found in some 873 tons of wheat gluten from China the dilution in the vast volume of pet foods being recalled must be considerable. So perhaps melamine is a smoking gun, a symptom and not the primary cause of so many animals becoming sick, and even dying.

    Pesticides are used extensively on rice crops, and many varieties of GM/transgenic rice have been planted in Asia. This may account for the presence of melamine in rice protein identified in two of Natural Balances cat and dog foods that lead to a recall on April 16, 2007 after people reported that their cats and dogs were getting sick on the dry food.

    The possibility of synergism of toxic pet food contaminants, where two or more harmful additives or contaminants resulted in this pet food poisoning pandemic, still remains open. The massive pet food recall in 2004 of dry cat and dog food manufactured in Thailand by Pedigree Pet Foods after reports of kidney failure in hundreds of pets, mostly puppies, in nine Asian countries is a matter of public record, but no toxic agent/s were ever reported to the public by this multinational pet food company.

    On April 3 Associated Press named the US importer as ChemNutra of Las Vegas, reporting that the company had recalled 873 tons of wheat gluten that had been shipped to three pet food makers and a single distributor who in turn supplies the pet food industry. Close to 100 different brand labels of cat and dog food were recalled.

    Until there is evidence to the contrary, the following concerns remain to be addressed by the FDA:

    1. The wheat gluten imported from China was not for human consumption, because, I believe, it had been genetically engineered. The FDA has a wholly cavalier attitude toward feeding animals such frankenfoods but places some restrictions when human consumption is involved (yet refuses appropriate food labeling).

    2. The rat poison aminopterin is used in molecular biology as an anti-metabolite, folate antagonist, and in genetic engineering biotechnology as a genetic marker. This could account for its presence in this imported wheat gluten.

    3. The plastic, wood preservative, contaminant melamine, the parent chemical for a potent insecticide cyromazine, could possibly have been manufactured WITHIN the wheat plants themselves as a genetically engineered pesticide. This is much like the Bt. insecticidal poison present in most US commodity crops that go into animal feed.

    4.So called overexpression can occur when spliced genes that synthesize such chemicals become hyperactive inside the plant and result in potentially toxic plant tissues, lethal not just to meal worms and other crop pests, but to cats, dogs, birds, butterflies and other wildlife; and to their creators.

    My initial suspicion was that the FDA had been aware that the gluten came from genetically engineered wheat that was considered safe for animal consumption. To admit that the gluten came from a genetically engineered food crop could harm the US agricultural biotechnology industry by raising valid consumer concerns: So better for the FDA to focus on the melamine question.

    I could be wrong. But a greater wrong is surely for the pet food industry to use food ingredients and food and beverage industry by-products considered unfit for human consumption; to continue to do business without any adequate government oversight and inspection; and for government to give greater priority and support to agricultural biotechnology ( that requires far more food quality and safety tests and surveillance than conventional crops all at the publics expense)than to organic, humane, ecologically sound farming practices.

    Possibly glufosinate and glyphosate, herbicides that are liberally applied to crops across the US, and are absorbed by crops that are genetically engineered (transgenic or GM, genetically modified), so that they are not harmed by the weed killers while all else growing in the fields is wiped out, could be part of the problem. These widely used herbicides have caused kidney damage and other health problems in laboratory tested animals.

    These and other agrichemicals are probably in the pet food that made so many animals sick and even die, and are in most of the crops and crop by-products currently being fed to beef cattle, pigs, poultry, and dairy cows whose produce is not Certified Organic.

    Farmed animals, whose various produce non-vegans consume, are also fed corn and other feeds from genetically engineered crops that produce their own insecticide called Bt. High levels of Bt in crops have made farmers ill and poisoned sheep. Since pet foods show no labels to the contrary, and the FDA does not even permit the labeling of human foods when they contain GM ingredients, we have no way of knowing what we are really eating or feeding to our pets.

    http://evansmediausa.blog.com/cryomazine/

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Question number 6:

    Are you aware of this in our Country as we use Gentically Modified grains continuously and spray lots of insecticides and Japan/Europe continue to shy away from GM’s with the quote from Japan — We will watch what happens to American Children for the next 10 years…

    Press Release from GM Free Cymru 6th March 2007

    ==========================
    GM rice contamination disaster spirals out of control as a THIRD contamination incident is identified.

    Today it is apparent that the GM rice contamination incident in the USA has spiralled out of control, in spite of the best efforts of rice farmers, millers and food packagers in a complex “damage limitation” exercise. It has also been revealed that there have also been at least THREE separate GM contamination incidents, involving contamination by different “Liberty Link” varieties developed by Bayer CropScience.

    Last year the US rice industry was rocked by the FIRST discovery that long-grain rice supplies were contaminated with a Bayer LL variety called LL601 (1). By the time the US regulators announced the contamination, on 18th August 2006, contaminated rice was already in the food chain all around the world; and major disruption was caused as testing programmes were put in place and as “positive” test results came in from one country after another. Contaminated rice had to be removed from supermarket shelves in many countries, and almost without exception these countries have banned further imports of US long-grain rice supplies. The price of US rice plummeted, and there are now 13 court cases pending as growers seek to obtain compensation from Bayer for financial damage. The contamination was traced to a rice variety called Cheniere, and the decision has been made by rice growers that this variety will not be planted at all in 2007 or 2008 (2).

    That was bad enough. But yesterday (3) it was reported that there had been a SECOND serious GM rice contamination incident in the southern states of the USA, this time involving the Bayer CropScience variety called LL62: see our press release APPENDED below. We also reported that rice farmers in Arkansas had decided that they would grow Clearfield 131 rice in spite of the fact that it is contaminated with LL62 GM rice.

    However, in a major new development, APHIS has stepped in today and ordered farmers NOT to plant Clearfield 131 rice anywhere in the southern states, in spite of the fact that there will now be severe shortages of seed stocks for the 2007 rice growing season. It appears that there is widespread contamination in seed stocks from 2005 and 2006, meaning that the contamination dates back to at least 2004.

    This move is prompted by more discoveries of contamination by LL62 as the GM testing programme proceeds. It has not been revealed how many positive results have now come through the testing laboratories, but it is reasonable to assume that there must be more than a hundred. Also, the millers and food processors (including Procter and Gamble) have been pleading with USDA, APHIS and the rice farmers to stay away from Clearfield 131 so that there is at least a small chance that most rice entering the food chain later this year will be kept GM- free (4).

    In a bizarre further twist, the testing labs have now identified a THIRD GM contamination incident. They have found LL contamination of Clearfield 131 which has nothing to do with LL06, LL62 or LL601. These are the only three GM rice varieties deregulated (ie authorized) in the USA. This means that the contamination is down to one (or more) of the other discontinued or experimental lines abandoned by Bayer probably at least a decade ago. BASF (the breeders of the non-GM Clearfield 131 variety) is now seeing its own business damaged, and the company is desperately trying to obtain from Bayer the genetic makeup of all of these abandoned (and possibly very unstable and non-uniform) GM-LL varieties (5) so that contaminated stocks can be impounded and destroyed.

    Commenting for GM Free Cymry, Dr Brian John said: “The worst possible scenario is that there are SEVERAL unidentified GM contaminant varieties out there in 2007 seed stocks, and that they have already outcrossed from Clearfield 131 into wild red rice. Even if widespread environmental damage can be prevented, this is now an unmitigated disaster for the rice farmers of the southern states, and for the GM industry, on a much greater scale than previously admitted. The genie is well and truly out of the bottle.”

    ENDS Contact: Dr Brian John Tel 01239-820470

    For US verification of this story, contact: Dave Bennett: dbennett@farmpress.com Bob Cummings: rcummings@usarice.com

    NOTES

    (1) http://www.gmwatch.org/archive2.asp?arcid=7106 http://www.usda.gov/wps/portal/usdahome? contentidonly=true&contentid=2006/08/0307.xml

    (2) http://deltafarmpress.com/news.....index.html

    (3) http://www.gmwatch.org/archive2.asp?arcid=7592

    (4) http://deltafarmpress.com/news.....field-131/

    (5) http://www.earthtimes.org/arti.....s_release, 69916.shtml

  207. Danielle says:

    Ellie,
    My understanding on Wellness is that the east coast canned food is made at Menu’s NJ plant. If the can has a code on the bottom ending in S1-S4 it is made at Menu. I stopped feeding Wellness because of their evasive and contradictory information, before I found out about the codes and ANI connection. Sure enough I have a closet full of Menu cans. Unfortunately I couldn’t return them because I cut off the UPC labels for a $10 coupon the day before the recall. Don’t think I’ll be needing the coupon now.

  208. Eric says:

    It kinda seems like Teric vanished. Maybe the government got him. I do hope he, his family and his pets are all okay.

  209. Wendy, Othello's mom says:

    I’m just sick about this, I’ve always fed dry food to keep their teeth healthy and canned as a treat. Now I’ve switched which dry food I feed, using Avoderm dry food only. If that gets recalled I will lose my mind, my dogs love it, and oddly enough my 10 year old Rotts eye allergies cleared up when I put him on it. I would like to switch to those all organic foods but lets be real I have two huge Rottweilers and go through 50lbs of food or more every other week. I checked out the Merrick site, it is like $20.00 for a 5lb bag. Anyone know of any organic foods that have a decent price per pound????? Would love the input…..

  210. Alice says:

    What about Blue Buffalo. I don’t see it on your list. They recalled the dry Spa kitten food and all cans of dog and cat food. I am currently using their dry dog and cat food and have used their canned food until I say the recall.

    ITCHMO ADMIN: Blue Buffalo is on our recall list. The Spa Select Kitten food is under For Cats: Dry Food #1 and Blue Buffalo canned food is listed under both For Cats: Wet Food #4, For Dogs: Wet Food #9 and For Dogs: Treats #2.

  211. Anonymous says:

    http://tinyurl.com/27vjt4
    World-Famous Scientists Donate Services to The Rabies Challenge Fund Charitable Trust

    “Two world-renowned giants of veterinary vaccine research — Dr. W. Jean Dodds of Hemopet and Co-Trustee of The Rabies Challenge Fund and Dr. Ronald Schultz of the University of Wisconsin School of Veterinary Medicine — have volunteered their time to ensure that critical 5 and 7 year rabies challenge studies are conducted in the United States. The studies are to be financed by The Rabies Challenge Fund Charitable Trust, a tax-exemption organization founded by pet vaccine disclosure advocate Kris L. Christine of Maine in 2005, and will be performed by Dr. Schultz at the University of Wisconsin. The University has waived its usual 48% overhead fee for these studies.

    The concurrent challenge studies will determine the duration of immunity conveyed by the canine rabies vaccine, with the goal of extending the state-mandated interval for boosters to 5, and then to 7 years. According to Dr. Dodds, “This is one of the most important projects in veterinary medicine. It will benefit all dogs by providing evidence that protection from rabies vaccination lasts at least 5 years, thereby avoiding unnecessary revaccination with its attendant risk of debilitating adverse reactions. “

  212. 4lgdfriend says:

    can’t find it but a recent poster (from the grocery business) tipped Itchmo that the shipment had gotten into the suppliers raw material stockpile and that therefore, all foods produced there would essentially be contaminated…….. I figure that’s what the code word “cross contamination” may mean.

  213. Ellie says:

    Danielle Says:

    My understanding on Wellness is that the east coast canned food is made at Menu’s NJ plant. If the can has a code on the bottom ending in S1-S4 it is made at Menu. I stopped feeding Wellness because of their evasive and contradictory information, before I found out about the codes and ANI connection. Sure enough I have a closet full of Menu cans. Unfortunately I couldn’t return them because I cut off the UPC labels for a $10 coupon the day before the recall. Don’t think I’ll be needing the coupon now.
    —–
    Thanks for the information. I have a few cans of adult Wellness with the S4 code. The cans of kitten food have a C1 code. Do you know what plant that C1 indicates? Do you have any further info about how to read the codes on other brands?

    I only asked them about ANI last week–now, with Menu’s cross-contamination issues, Wellness is no longer an option. Too bad, one cat especially loves their turkey and salmon.

  214. Monika says:

    Hana B.

    Cats: Merrick wet with Kumpikat, Felidae and Fromm dry.
    Dogs: Merrick and Evangers wet along with Merrick dry.

    No problems, everyone is happy, I trust the companies (despite the rendering plant issue with Merrick - which no one is able to prove and until then I will continue to use them).

    In any case for the latest info on all things pet food go to www.thepetfoodlist.com/forums

  215. Nicole says:

    Anyone that loves their pets should boycott any company that does animal testing for their foods. I can’t beleive that these companies get away with treating cats and dogs so inhumanely. Cutting chunks of muscle out of dog legs seems crazy to me. These big corporate companies treat dogs and cat as money machines. The try to cover it up but if you ask me this kind of testing is unnessary.
    I discovered www.iamscruelty.com and was disgusted what I had found.
    I used Iams for years but I am not helping torture other pets anymore.

  216. Monika says:

    RABIES

    It’s about time they started looking into something that seemed so obvious - there’s an extremely bad over-vaccination issue in this country. I swear it’s so you are forced to go to the vet at least once a year. My cats are 7 and only had shots once at the shelter I adopted them from - after that, I never went to the vet or anywhere for any shots. They are healthy, never sick, no problems (well, one is allergic to fleas). The dogs - now that I know you can stretch it to 5 I will.

    Thanks for sharing.

  217. Danielle says:

    Ellie,
    I went back and found the thread that talks about the codes: http://64.79.216.38/~itchmo/fo.....pic=123.0. C1-C4 are also Menu codes. I was never able to get these specifics out of the company, so I’m trusting the poster that started the thread. I think it was posted though before the ANI story broke, so I think I would avoid Wellness altogether because it’s basically flipping a coin as to your contamination problem.

  218. Renee says:

    I’m another reader in Europe (UK) wanting to know what’s been recalled over here. I thought we were hopefully safe, considering that I thought there were more stringent EU regulations about imports from China, but it might be US or Canadian food that’s just been imported over here.

  219. Anonymous says:

    Right you are Monika, and at last, Dodds and Schultz are saying, out loud to Vets that our animals health is more important than Vet profits from overvaccination administered without adequte duration of immunity studies.

    LONG OVERDUE.

  220. Anonymous says:

    Note that cats are not included. Why did the AVMA cut off funding for the Feline Vaccine Associated Sarcoma Task Force???

    Why did it take an animal lover and donated services to fund these important studies? Because of lack of support due to threatened pethealth industry profits?

  221. Ellie says:

    NUTRO DIDN’T KNOW ABOUT THE NEW RECALL!

    Yes, that’s right. I had checked the Nutro website and noticed that their latest information was a week old. So I called to ask why they hadn’t updated their site to reflect the May 2 Menu recall.

    The first person I spoke to didn’t know about it. She transferred me to a higher-up person, who ALSO didn’t know about it! He seemed incredulous, even though I kept saying the info was posted by Menu last night and was on the FDA list yhis morning. He said, well, he wasn’t in yesterday. I was incredulous at that!

    As we were on the phone (this was about 15 minutes ago), he got/found the new info about additional Nutro recalls.

    Incredible. Absolutely incredible.

  222. Renee says:

    Sorry to follow up on my own post, but I just found a list that said which the two European brands were at http://petfoodtracker.blogspot.....-food.html

    They are Despar and Stuzzy and both are Italian according to the basic Googling I did. Might be worth someone who knows Italian to research this more. Here’s the basic info I found:

    Despar is an Italian grocery chain according to this link:

    http://whitepapers.techrepubli.....cid=286810

    I found their home page, and they seem to be the same company as Spar (same logo at least):

    http://www.desparitalia.it/
    http://www.spar-int.com/ (European page–they do everthing from local convenience stores to large supermarkets, depending on the country)

    Stuzzy Gold’s home page is here:

    http://www.agras-delic.it/2006/stuzzy_gold.php

  223. Ellie says:

    Danielle, thank you for the additional info.

    It is really disheartening when premium food companies , especially, aren’t forthcoming with information. They are positioning themselves as high-grade, top-quality foods for pets (and charging such high prices), and they turn out to be little different from the supermarket brands.

  224. Rick says:

    Someone was questioning where Wellness canned foods are made–they are made @ MENU FOODS.

    I posted this in another thread–and thought I’d re-post.

    FYI

    Anyone using “By Nature Organics” may want to do a closer inspection!
    Their wet “pouch” style cat food says on the back “PRODUCT OF CHINA”.
    So I called the company, Blue Seal, and the rep was a bit aggressive.
    I asked him how he could be sure the product is safe and he said “because we test it” (where have we heard THAT before?) I then mentioned China’s other nasty human food issues and he said “I got that email , too” in a dismissive tone. Next I asked him if ANY of the ingredients in any if their other dog or cat food are imported from China and he said “to the BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, no”. To which I responded” but you can’t say FOR SURE” his response: “NO, I DON”T WORK IN PURCHASING” !!!!
    Also, their “loaf” stlye(which is anything not in gravy) is made by MENU FOODS”.
    Apprently Blue seal has their hands in quite a bit!
    Blue Seal manufactures wildlife, farm animal, and livestock feeds and supplements; canned and dry pet food; seed mixtures for wild and caged birds; and lawn and garden maintenance products.

  225. Wendy44 says:

    GENNY: Sorry, when I said ask your vet I didn’t mean to upset you. Luckily, my vet is a personal friend that I used to work with, and I basically called her to have her look at the ingredient list to see if medically it would control his crystals. I worked at a vet for a few years, as a receptionist, but I saw many cats with crystal problems, and yes it will kepp coming back and can be dangerous if not under control. My cat is still being transitioned over from Hills, he’s eating a mix of the two, but so far so good. This diet I found from FRR is the only one I seemed to find that specifically mentioned controlling struvite crystals, which form from the cats pH being too high. I buy it online, free shipping, and it the price is comparable to the Hills crap.
    As far as not trusting your vet, I understand. The two vets that owned the clinic I worked at were very devious, and after my vet friend left, I eventually left because of ethical issues. Now I will only go to certain clinics in the area that I have “inside info” on. If you get any bad feeling or vibe from your vet, don’t hesitate to get a second opinion. If you ever want to contact me you can email me at bluescat@catlover.com
    I hope everything works out for you.

  226. betty gossett says:

    They are saying: This is food that DOES NOT contain the wheat gluten. It is cross contamination. They still are not listing Iams Slow cooked chicken. It does not list wheat gluten and was never recalled. However, I had a pregenant cat that died and a 3 month old kitten that died eating it. My other cats were eating Nine lives. They were ok. The 2 that died were fed “better food”. They died. The pregnant one right after delivery at the end of February. The kitten in March about a week before the recalls started. The kittens that were born only survived a few days, So, I lost my female and her litter. Of course, I did not suspect the food, I thought it was a complication of her pregnancy. Then with the kitten, I had just made an appointment for his vaccines. So, I thought it must have been something that would have been prevented by the vaccines. Then the recalls. Iams food made by menu foods, but not on the recall list. I then became convinced it was the food, since the ones that died were the only ones eating it. They may never add it to the list.
    I am totally conviced this stuff is also in the human food supply. But it takes humans longer to get sick from it since they are bigger and eat more things. Anyone that goes into renal failure should have their urine tested.

  227. momofcanines says:

    Can anyone tell me if Blue Buffalo dry was recalled? I know the canned was. I had some of the recalled cans and returned them. I was lucky I had not fed them to my dogs! I feed California Natural to my epileptic dog and Blue Buffalo Fish and Potato to my other 2 (one with severe allergies). I am concerned about the dry food now!

  228. DaveyD says:

    We are all absolutely sure that all Iams, Eukanuba, Purina, Hills etc… made by Menu should have also been included in this round..How can there be “cross-contamination” and the big boys are not affected by it??
    Bull$*&%!
    There are just refusing to do the right thing…Like Blue Buffalo did for example. It would cost their bottom line to much and their CEO’s would not get their bonus’…

  229. Bonni says:

    my friend’s dog eats the duck and potato natural balance. Even though he didn’t eat any of the recalled foods, she had his blood and urine tested. All tests came back completely normal, nothing elevated at all. . . completely healthy. WHEW!!!

  230. Jennifer says:

    www.dogfoodanalysis.com has some great information on dog food. We feed our dogs Innova EVO because as the web site says, “grain is not a natural part of a dogs diet”. The big name brand dog food manufacturers are the ones that are having all of the problems…..suprise, suprise.

  231. Britches says:

    Cross contamination is from the eqipment not being cleaned thoroughly after each production run. At the senate hearing in mid April that was televised on CSPAN one of the men who was involved in feed oversight admitted to Senator Durbin and the others that the equipment is not routinely cleaned (or sterilized) unless they have been doing a production run of “prescription food”. My husband almost fell off his chair and my mouth dropped open at that admission. I saw it “live that day while home at lunch and couldn’t believe it. Now I guess I’m just not suprised by anything anymore. When will this end…..

  232. Minnaloushe says:

    RE: CRYSTALS and CHRONIC UTI’s

    My cat Booda was getting UTI’s every few months, and blocked at least once a year. After his third catheteization (and after being on Hills prescription food for it still didn’t prevent problems) I finally read some books and started making food.

    This was over 8 years ago - started with Dr. Pitcairn’s recipes, have moved now closer to Anita Frazier’s New Natural Cat recipes - and Booda has never had another UTI, much less been blocked. He is now 17, and still going strong.

    Don’t let people convince you its hard to feed your pets - we feed ourselves without resorting to kibble, don’t we? Prior to the 50/60’s, people fed table scraps to their pets, and that is still far healthier than commerical, rendered, processed and preserved food.

    Its simple to put out some raw chicken or turkey, with a few steamed veggies blended in, at the very least. Supplements are good, of course, but a decent animal multi-vitamin will cover most concerns…

    I can’t tell you how relieved I’ve been through all of this to NOT be relying on commercial foods! But I’m still furious, and more so everyday!!!

    Minn

  233. pat says:

    that’s it, what i feared all along has been realized. my boys’ brand is on the new list. i have one crf guy; of course we figured it was “just one of those things”. you’ll never convince me of that now. i’ll never be able to prove it but that won’t stop me from giving these people an earful.

    Triumph is actually “Sunshine Foods” Sounds nice, doesn’t it? I had to call several times before I got someone who was even remotely listening to me. He’s not going to *do* anything, of course, but at least he let me bash his company for quite awhile… guess he figured it was the least he could do.

    Then I called menu foods, which was a lot less satisfying. They’re supposedly going to contact me sometime within the next millenium. Looking forward to it.

    Then it was regional office of fda. She was ok, went over the whole scenario with me; took name of pet store supplying triumph food, and the name of my vet so she could discuss specifics of my cat’s case. I told her that considering the time frame for my pet’s illness (last summer) I would never be able to prove causal relationship but wanted my pet to be documented if the investugation turns up anything to suggest that this was going on unabated for a long time before the recall announcement came in March.

    Then I called my vet to let him know that I’d called FDA so he wouldn’t freak out when they called him. He’s just fine with that… he’s pretty snarky about the way this recall thing is going down too.

    I can’t even begin to articulate the depths of my rage… and I’m really mad at myself for not checking to see if triumph was manufactured by menu. when i didn’t see them on the first recall, and the subsequent recall, I just assumed they weren’t. Triumph supposedly makes Hi-Tor too, which is a diet for kidney-compromised cats! un-freaking-believable.

  234. Minnaloushe says:

    Oh, and one more thing, Vitamin C will help acidify the system and prevent crystals IF they are the ones caused from not enough acidity…

    There are two different kinds, I recall…

    Minn

  235. Genny says:

    Wendy44,

    Oh, no, no, no. You certainly didn’t upset me. Gosh, I’ve been up since yesterday morning and had to scroll back to see what we had written.

    What I meant was that I wanted “real people’s” opinions that have had personal experiences vs vet’s that have a vested interest in selling SD. He said kitty needed to be on a scripted food or crystals would come back. That changing to several other brands probably caused the crystals. I hadn’t heard that one. I started them on Kumpicat last week and asked him if he’d look at the analysis to see if he thought it would be ok for his condition but he wasn’t interested. He’s been my vet for over 10 years and he’s always been very good and helpful but it was sort of weird. Thought I would get better info here or at least unbiased.

    I’ve read so much that I’m more confused than ever and was hoping for the Cliff Notes version from any of you guys with some type of tried and true helpful info. I appreciate everyone’s input and advise. I’ve learned alot here and, again, thanks so much.

  236. FelineFoundationOfUtah says:

    Genny,

    I hope your cat is feeling better.

    I had 11 cats suddenly unable to pee, for one it was life threatening (he was only able to pee a drop of blood every 2 min). He’s recovering and expected to be fine, but the vet said he’d need to be on a special diet (SD c/d) forever to prevent crystals from forming again. The treatment was IVs at 1am and a shot of antibiotic. Everyone is recovering nicely, but my nerves still haven’t settled down. I don’t trust anything from any of the companies and it seems every label has something in it that I don’t trust.

    I learned cat’s systems are very sensitive to food switches and the best way is to gradually introduce them to the new food. My foster cats love wet food, but it scares me to give it to them…instead, I soak their dry food until it’s mush and stir it up, they love it just as well, and maybe I’m lowering their risk of becoming ill. I hope this helps. Good luck!

  237. Anonymous says:

    For Robin and others wanting treat/bait recipes:

    http://www.dogaware.com/treatref.html

    There is “Home-Made Rollover” recipe similar to Natural Balance and other ‘roll’ treats.

    Check out “Tuna Training Treats” and “Beef Heart Treats” which would make a good bait as well.

    Also, the home page http://www.dogaware.com/ has links about the recalls and further down links to making diets for dogs with various health issues.

  238. E says:

    I suggest those of you whose pets have gotten sick after eating Wellness to phone and also follow up that with an email to Wellness. I hope that would push them to do some testing of their own….

  239. Laura says:

    How about First Mate Pet Foods…all grain free…made in Canada in their own plant…they only carry dry foods, but they have always been very popular in my store, especially the Potato and Chicken…
    any news?

  240. Erwin says:

    Earlier today I was worried about the two European varieties and whether Avoderm Puppy is o.k. for our puppy. Thanks Renee for the searching: They are Despar and Stuzzy and both are Italian according to the basic Googling he did.

    Regarding my worries about Avoderm Puppy: within 24 hours I got a very satisfying and detailed answer from Breeders-Choice, stating they don’t use wheat gluten or rice protein concentrate in any of the
    AvoDerm Natural foods - dry or canned. The ingredients in the food are
    grown in the United States and they work directly with the suppliers. They
    do not use brokers and do not import wheat, rice or corn.

    Bravo for this quick response, and all the extra details about quality control, therefor I would recommend their food as a safe choice, especially in these times!

  241. Genny says:

    4lgdfriend,

    Thanks for the tip about Holisticat. I’ll check it when I can compose something concise and sensible. I remember that being suggested earlier from several people.

    FelineFoundationofUtah,

    Looks like we always learn the hard way but it usually doesn’t affect anyone else, eh? I guess the switch from crap to premium is too much of a good thing. He is doing much better but has found a new spot to sprawl….about 7 feet from his litter box. Don’t know if he wants to be close or just liking it there.

    My nerves were shot, too, especially when I had to take him back Monday, the same day I brought him home, and yesterday. But 11 cats!! You should’ve asked the vet if he could slip you something on the side. Ha. You’re a saint to take care of all those babies. I hope you and your little fellow recovers and never has to go through that again. I watched my vet do the cath Sat. night, through my tears, but it was really very interesting. Good luck to you and yours.

  242. Barb says:

    A friend of mine is feeding her two pups Science Diet puppy. Thoughts?? The first 6 ingredients will make you sick just reading them. By products and all that crap….I told her it was not a good food. BUT…her wonderful vet highly recommended it. I told her I would not be feedind her pups Science Diet..she said it was not on the recalled list. I need advice for her…any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

  243. goy boy says:

    Why don’t we just force the management at MENU FOODS taste test the dog and cat foods themselves(it won’t kill them, oh wait yes it will) maybe this problem would have been solved already.

  244. Sarah says:

    Ok.. This stuff, just makes me worried, angry,frustrated,etc. A whole mix of emotions.
    I’m honestly afraid to feed my dogs anything from the stores. I’ve cut back on their kibble,and started feeding homemade/raw meals. They haven’t really hestitated too much :P

    Of course though, it’s almost to the point I’m afraid to feed them any of that as well. Sigh

    Anyway, In searching for info on homemade stuff, I ran across this,and bought it. It has been FANTASTIC, and I would reccomend it to anyone. ALOT of wonderful information, recipes, alot of very helpful info.

    http://www.oldsouthservices.com/Dogfoodsecrets.php

    My thoughts and prayers go out to all those that have lost their beloved pet. I lost my beagle on March 20th, and the pain is still there like it was yesterday. I think it’s time petowners fight back!!

  245. FelineFoundationOfUtah says:

    Genny,

    I’m glad to hear your kitty is feeling better! We needed some GOOD news!

    It was easy to know the Solid Gold was the cause because only the ones who ate it were affected. I took samples to my vet and he analyzed them when I walked in. (He does give me discounts, I’m thankful!) He said getting a clean urine sample from a cat is nearly impossible, but I found a way.

    Put litter inside a heavy-duty clear plastic bag and lay it flat. They go on the bag where it can be drawn into a syringe, then put into a vial. It can be refrigerated and stored up to 24 hours.

    I had to have all the cats isolated in their own room to know who did exactly what. It was heartbreaking watching them suffer and feeling helpless.

    I forgot to mention the doc also gave the extremely sick one the feline dose of Valium, to relax his muscles to help him go…and it worked, but it was sad to see him stagger around and fall over and over…like he had “mad cow”. Another late night call to the vet, who said it was a “normal” reaction to the drug, but not being prepared to see that was a shocker.

    I’m learning a lot..but learning the hard way. I’m getting very educated, thanks to Itchmo and all of you.

  246. robin says:

    Right after this mess hit in March, I e-mailed Wellness as I was feeding Wellness dry to my dobe and two cats, and asked two very simple questions; who owned the plant and where was the plant located that made the wellness dry. The first e-mail back from them was totally evasive rumble jumble, I wrote back and asked them to either fully answer my question or I was not going to use their product. The second e-mail came from Wellness telling me the dry was made in Oklahoma, by who I wasn’t told. So I tossed about 30 IBS of Wellness in the trash and went to Canidae for the dog and Felidae for the cats. Any company who wants my business will fully answer all my questions. I’ll never buy a Wellness product again. In Decenber I had tried the canned Wellness on my young dobe and he would not touch it and he is usually a very good eater. Loves the Evangers canned. He may have known something. Wellness needs to rethink their attitude as trust is pretty low in all these companies.

  247. Danielle says:

    Robin,
    I had the same experience as you. I was told Oklahoma. My husband was told that Wellness had their own plant in PA with a lab nearby and they tested each batch daily. Who was told the truth?

    I’m feeding Canidae & Evangers too and my dogs love it as well. The skinny one finally put on some weight and their coats look fantastic. I feel as comfortable as someone who reads these boards every day can feel with these foods. But I feel I’ve done the research and the best I can to reduce the likelihood of a problem. If only friends and family would listen to me instead of their vets pushing Purina. I’ve also ordered some Honest Kitchen samples but haven’t tried them yet as I don’t want to keep mixing up their food. (Plus I had to special order 2 cases of the Evangers until my store starts stocking it!)

  248. Danielle says:

    Does anyone know whether “soy protein isolate” is dangerous? I just checked the ingredients of Drs. Foster & Smith Lifestage Select Senior Dog Formula Multivitamins and it contains this ingredient and Fish Oil Concentrate (could be imported?). I logged on to their live help to ask if this was safe and if they imported any ingredients from China. The customer service rep said soy protein has not been recalled. I said I knew that, but didn’t FDA block the importation of soy and soy protein from China? She said she couldn’t answer my questions and would have technical staff e-mail me. In the meantime, I just wanted to throw this out there and see if anyone has run across this ingredient before.

  249. Lorie says:

    I have heard from a vet in my area she has seen severl cats and kittens coming in with problems from Wellness dry. Excisive vomiting etc…it seems to be causing GI problems.

    Ithnk I read on another blog their dry is made by CJ foods the same place the Blue Buffalo dry kitten was made that has been recalled sound funny to me. Follows the pattern.

  250. robert says:

    Erwin
    Avoderm pet food, the can for cats is made in China, says so on the cans. the dog food is made by Menu. Breeder’s Choice is an association of American Feed. Dry is U S A made. I feed the dry buy not the wet.

  251. robert says:

    Before you feed Solid Gold, check it out. It is made by Diamond. Code on bag says made in Texas, as did the store where I bought it. My cat got sick from eating it (the dry) I called Solid Gold, Said they do not have a Satisfaction Guarntee. I think the place in Texas that makes it is “blue sky”

  252. Wendy44 says:

    FF of Utah: Yes, it is hard to get a urine sample! Luckily my cat was willing to pee in an empty litter box, but to have him shut up in a room alone for hours and hours was heartbreaking.
    Minn: The stuvite crystals are the ones that form when the urine is too alkaline. These are the common ones. But there are crystals called calcium oxylate that can form in extremely acidic urine. My cat never actually blocked, but he was peeing blood all over his house and his UA’s were clean except for crystals. It finally took a barium study to see his thickened bladder wall. After a dose of steriods and a food switch he’s been ok. But I feel sick that I’d been feeding him the c/d garbage all these years. I hope this FRR works out well. I’m switching him over very slowly.

  253. CC says:

    Genny,

    Sorry–been offline all day. You asked about my cat–he is 1.5 yrs old and seemed to get an inflammed bladder (straining/blood, but no blockage). The vet diagnosed struvite/triple phosphate crystals, which form at high pH. He was on a dry food, Eukanuba kitten, at the time, with occasional cans of Iams wet. My vet told me at the time (and my later reading backs this up) that lots of moisture consumption thru canned food was the best overall strategy. She said some prescription diets can take the acidifcation too far, and cause the other type of crystal (calcium oxalate). Most canned diets are pretty low in magnesium to prevent struvite crystals anyway, and the ash is not really a good indicator of much (except if it’s really high, it is probably not high quality meat).

    I switched him gradually to canned foods, trying Wellness, Natural Life, Blue Buffalo, and Purina Proplan. He wasn’t so keen on canned at first, so it was a slow process of mixing half and half. About two weeks later, another episode of the same thing happened. He got better after more fluids. Different vet this time, similar findings–concentrated urine and high pH. We started worrying more about grains in food at this point, because of the recall as well as their affect in raising pH. We started adding plain or tuna-flavored water on his wet food for even more dilute urine.

    Two weeks later, he got a complete blockage, apparently from crystals mixing with mucus to plug his urethra. Long story short, the blockage kept recurring within 24 hours after the catheter was removed, causing further suffering and hospitalizations, so our vet eventually recommended the perineal urethostomy. It was a very hard decision for me, because it seemed like a huge deal and risk, but in fact the surgery took all of an hour, and he was home within 48 hours afterwards (though it cost a fortune because we went with a specialist at a university hospital).

    While it wasn’t a fun experience at all, we eventually had a really positive outcome. I wish I’d never got to the point of surgery, though, and I wonder if all the bouncing around between different brands with various grains and veggies and fruits did have an effect. I’m a little dubious of your vet’s idea that premium brands are worse than store brands. I think it’s between a rock and a hard place–the store brands (and most dry foods) have grains, but holistic canned foods often add fruits and veggies, which also are thought to raise pH. The current vet prescribed canned Royal Canin SO, which is basically water, by-products and animal fats. I’m not too keen on the quality of the meat, but RC has published studies indicating it controls both types of crystals by maintaining low pH, and controlled levels of phosphorus and magnesium. I suspect that even more important is the strictly carnivorous and moisture-rich nature of the food, so I’m exploring alternatives that do something similar but use muscle meat and less preservatives, like Instinctive Choice and By Nature Organics (even though they’re made at Menu).

    I too got really confused by all the different info about FLUTD the web, but I keep coming back to Dr. Pierson and Dr. Hodgkin’s info on wet carnivorous diets, partially because I’ve seen the dramatic improvement it made in my older cat’s diabetes (catinfo.org and yourdiabeticcat.com). I did buy 3 feline health books online, and the one I’ve found helpful was “Guide to a Healthy Cat” by Elaine Wexler-Mitchell, DVM. Great chapter on FLUTD, including info on what procedures and expenses to expect if your kitty does get blocked.

    I wish you all the best–I hope your cat feels better soon. FLUTD is a frustrating and complex problem, so talk to as many vets and pet owners as you can.

  254. Sandy says:

    WELLNESS DRY HELP NEEDED…OK way above I mentioned how OMH aka Wellness has done nothing but be evasive with me…emails calls….all the two step bs….I have dry dog and dry cat food I have never opened THE ALLERGY formula …it has rice protein…HAS ANYONE here gotten a straight reply from this company??? If not I am taking the crap back…You know, don’t throw the foods out….return them to the store you have a 100% guarentee of satisfaction on this foods. I am not satisfied with chemicals in my pets foods. Open the bag so they can’t resell it and return it…Wellness…and all the “GOOD” foods will have to eat it

  255. Amy says:

    Sandy - I pulled Wellness dry from my rotation about a week ago I think… the days are all blending together. Anyway, that’s when my kitty started to exhibit symptoms of kidney trouble. Now, I also had been feeding Natural Balance a couple weeks earlier but stopped that with the recall. But Wellness was the only one of the foods I was feeding last week that had any sort of grain protein so between that and Lorie’s comments about her vet with cats who were sick on Wellness I decided to be safe rather than sorry. Now I’m feeding a mix of Innova and Nature’s Variety Raw Instinct dry and supplementing with a bit of canned human grade chicken and salmon, and some Nature’s Variety canned and raw. My kitty did wind up having sub q fluids for 5 days and goes back tomorrow for more tests… she is acting like she’s feeling better so I’m hoping that she’s on the road to recovery.

  256. Lauren Dees says:

    Feline Foundation,
    Be careful of just adding water to your kitties dry food. I found this info from a Vet’s site:
    “Speaking of texture, a common question is “can I just soak the dry food in water?” I hedge more than just a bit at this question. Dry food has a high bacterial content. Mold is also often found in dry food. There have been many deaths of dogs and cats secondary to eating mold mycotoxins, vomitoxins and aflatoxins which often contaminate the grains found in dry food. If you want to try the trick of wetting down the dry food to alter the texture, please leave it out for only 20-30 minutes then discard it. Bacteria and mold thrive in moisture.”
    http://www.catinfo.org/index.htm

  257. Kristi says:

    Speaking of cross contamination - hasn’t everyone found different kibble types in their dry dog food at one time or another? I just found red triangular pieces of kibble in my bag of Nature’s Variety Senior (square brown kibble). I’m sending it in to them.

  258. FelineFoundationOfUtah says:

    Lauren Dees,

    Thanks for the info. I soak it 10 to 15 minutes, then the food is gobbled up instantly. Everything I can learn helps, so I appreciate the tips!

  259. Phyllis says:

    Here is an e-mail letter I just sent to Trader Joes. They claim on thier FAQ page to have independently tested all their pet foods produced by Menu Foods, but they do not say just how this was accomplished.

    Hi Trader Joes

    First let me say I like your store and many of your products. However, I have a concern or two about your pet food products.

    Menu Foods has issued new recalls on current products as of yesterday May 3, 2007. See FDA.gov Your products are likely affected in spite of your assurances on the FAQ page.

    You are still using Menu Foods to produce your products. I asked at the La Mesa store last night, and was at first told that you do not use them, later a manager said you still do :>( .

    I will no longer buy any pet food from any business that uses them because they should have known of the potential for this mess.

    Cat food made by them has been contaminated for a very long time. Also, they know that people have been cheating them on the quality of grain proteins and glutens. They claim ignorance, but I do not believe it. The CEO sold off LOTS of his stock just a couple of weeks before the recall.

    For over a year, I bought the canned cat food for Purr-Purr, but sometimes she would not eat it. Instead she would try to cover it up like a pile, and then would walk off and go without. Othertimes it would just sit and dry up while she followed me around begging for food, and acting hungry.

    I now know that one of the symptoms of this poisoning is stomach pain along with
    vomiting, especially frothy liquid rather than food. This happened frequently. She also drank tons of water, urinating frequently and sometimes she could not even get to the box in time. I could not afford a vet.

    I know you sold me contaminated cat food last year,whether you meant to or not, and I AM CONCERNED THAT YOU ARE STILL USING THIS INEPT, CROOKED COMPANY FOR YOUR PET FOODS!

    I shop in your store at least twice a month and buy most of my groceries there.

    Purr-Purr died of cat renal failure last
    July 16th. She had eaten a lot of Trader Joe’s canned cat food in the preceding year (along with Pro-Plan for the dry). The last few days she was gaunt, breathing hard, lethargic. I loved her very much because she helped nurse me through chemotherapy and cancer.

    She was older, but she was in excellent health until Fall of 2005.

    I will not buy your pet food until you change companies.

    Sincerely,
    Phyllis Shamoon

  260. Miss Jami says:

    Genny, I called to check in….you hopefully have a social engagement and aren’t back at the vet. How’s Nixon? Goomba is better today. She ate half a cooked egg yolk, half a canned sardine and about a tablespoon of beef with gristle and fat. She had eaten beef while I was at work and drank all the ‘water’ and scrapings from the cast iron skillet.

    I just can’t bring myself to buy any ‘manufactured’ cat food. I know that I see others on this and other sites that are feeding what our cats were eating but I don’t know where those people are and which ’shipments’ they are getting.

    I may not make a dent in the pet food manufactuers pocket by by God their P&L statement won’t go up because of me. I’m done.

    I don’t know if I told anyone, Goomba used to love chicken and is now refusing (about two weeks) to eat any! I bought some ‘Buddy’s Free Range’ today and will see tomorrow if she will eat it. I am about half afraid to eat it myself…I already have weak kidneys.

    I want to offer a huge THANK YOU to everyone involved in the ITCMO site, you’ve offered us a beacon in the darkness. Hold your heads high and know that you are not just ‘ site managers’ you are so much more!!

  261. Sandy says:

    Amy lol I found you again….I use Evo too for my cats. I forgot to mention that somewhere else..I am beat. The Evo is no grain and made in their own plants. DO NOT buy the wet…it’s by Menu but a Dakota plant ….for now I will not feed it. Kidney issues with high protein diets do not mix…but like I told someone else, poisen with kidney issues do not mix either . Good luck with the kitty..I have 2 on subq (one has CRF the other shows up clear but …I don’t trust that he is sick) I had another cat he had to be PTS almost 2 years ago. …kidneys :-/

  262. jean says:

    Hi All:

    I just don’t have time to read through all the posts tonight (only about 1/2), so apologies if someone else has already said this. It’s helpful when we all share what we’re feeding and our observations of our pets’ health. But please, don’t assume the food you’re feeding is safe because it isn’t on the recall list. We’ve seen how this list keeps expanding. Moreover, the problem isn’t confined to Menu, ANI, Diamond, etc (though they should all be shut down!): this is ultimately an issue of ingredient sourcing. Any food produced by a company that is using ingredients sourced from China (and probably parts of Southeast Asia and India, too), is suspect! I’m going to be contacting some of the companies that have been mentioned here to find out about their sourcing; if they won’t tell me, I’m not buying their product, period.

  263. jean says:

    Sorry–I should make clear I’m talking about those companies people have said manufacture their own product.

    Gotta go to bed….

  264. jean says:

    A quick check of my e-mail inbox and, lo and behold, the latest ichmo alert from the ASPCA: question all non-US protein sources! I would add that my vet is researching sourcing for vitamin supplement ingredients–I had never thought that they could pose a danger for the same reasons as the protein sources.

    Seriously, gotta go to bed….

  265. CODA DOG RESCUE says:

    This recall situation has been a nightmare for organizations like ours who rescue animals both dogs and cats.

    We’ve switched all the dogs to a new food that just came out on the market post inital recalls called HOMESTYLE SELECT it’s a fresh refrigerated food but are still really stressing over safe foods for the cats.
    We only normally feed dry food here but with the rice protein concentrate nightmares of late we worry as our new food stocks contain NO WHEAT GLUTEN and the labels don’t list rice protein concentrate but we now know you can’t trust the labelling either.

    You might be interested in a T- Shirt we’re selling on ebay to raise funds to buy new food stocks for the animals since the refrigerated food is so expensive.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA.....1&rd=1

    We created the t-shirts BEFORE it was revealed that the chinese imports are also showing up in the human food chain now.

    Thus we don’t even feel 100% safe feeding the new food because it contains chicken.
    Denise Gibson- Franks
    Executive Director
    C.O.D.A.
    http://coda.givemepaw.com

  266. Adrienne says:

    I live in the UK and have been following this saga with horror since the beginning. There has been absolutely nothing in the news over here - only those of us who frequent US message boards have heard about it.

    Hitherto I have at least been heaving a sigh of relief that we are unaffected in Europe - it being my understanding that Europe is a big producer of wheat gluten so foods sold here (which seem also to be manufactured here) should be safe.

    Now I see that Menu Foods say they have recalled two lines sold in Europe but have not been able to find out which they are (and where in the EU they are sold). Can anyone here enlighten me?

    Thanks

    Adrienne

    ITCHMO ADMIN: Two posters, Renee and Erwin, found out the two European varieties. They are Despar and Stuzzy and both appear to be from Italy.

  267. Adrienne says:

    Thanks so much for that! Not that I can relax - with the ever-increasing recall list there may well be more European lines recalled. My vet knew nothing of this either, but I’ve given him lots of printouts on the unfolding story…. Of concern to him is whether any of the Hill’s Science Diet and Royal Canin foods he sells could be affected (the concern being animal welfare, not his pocket).

    Adrienne

  268. Sonya says:

    For those considering grain -free diets, I switched my cat to Wellness grain-free canned food and she’s done very well on it. Wellness now makes a dry grain-free food too. She was eating what turned out to be tainted Nutro food, then I put her on Natural Balance, which was tainted too, and then to Newman’s Own, which set off her allergies, and now she’s been on Wellness for a few weeks and is doing great. Go grain-free or make the food yourself, it’s the only to be sure our babies our safe!
    I, for one, will not buy any of the brands that have been tainted. period. whether or not the type of the food my pet eats has been recalled or not. Seems like everyday they add a new food to the list, why take the chance?

  269. BOBC says:

    All of the pet foods currently in the market are contaminated. The manufacturers of these foods are aware their products are bad…they are simply waiting, keeping silent, and killing animals for the sake of unloading their inventories to lessen their financial losses. The hell with our animal’s health! Feed your animals ONLY foods made for humans….keep them alive!

  270. Anna K says:

    Considering all the damage Menu has done, you would think that they would have people manning the phone lines that had SOME KNOWLEDGE of what they were talking about! Can’t believe that I have called 5 times and still have not recieved a return phone call and worse yet the people answering the menu phone lines don’t even have a clue as to who they are answering the phone lines for!!! Last last evening I phoned to ask a question concerning the latest recall and the person could not answer the question so she gave me the phone number of the executive officeso she thought, but what the idiot gave me was the phone number for Nestle Purina. What a SHAM, to act as though as a company you are concerned

  271. TC says:

    First off, my heart goes out to all who are/have been affected by this whole mess. I wish I could take all your pain and heartache away….

    Just a quick question here. I’ve seen some mention of Solid Gold food being fed to animals. Was I mistaken, or was Solid Gold not one of the foods that was recalled? I could be wrong, and forgive me if I am, as I have not throughly read every post. Our family used to have two doggies, who’ve long passed. I’m a huge animal lover, and this recall s— makes me totally furious. It is crazier than ever. Anyway, just wanted to ask, as I’ve been trying to follow this insanity driven, asinine maze of this fiasco. Blessings to each and every pet parent out there.

  272. Micah says:

    Wysong definately wins the wysong sucks award for their arrogance.

    http://www.wysongsucks.com

  273. Penny says:

    What I wonder is if they are doing this to the dog food and its causing cancer, diabetes etc.. I could only assume people food is bad to, because its causing the same symptoms in humans. Our dog got diabetes because of Bad Dog Food. We have been giving him an all natural product which has helped in a major way.. Its all about good nutrition folks… My heart goes out to those whose animals have died but to those of you who still have your animals get them on some good nutrition and really check it out!

  274. AnnaZ says:

    Calling on TC,
    In answer to your question concerning Solid Gold, it was not recalled,and I sure hope it won’t be. We feed our 3 dogs Solid Gold although I’m not totally comfortable with Diamond(they make Solid Gold) We also give them Bil Jac. I just checked on the web to make certain that it was not on the recall list, but if anyone out there knows differently please post!

  275. AnnaZ says:

    Sam,
    thanks for your message, I really appreciate your bringing this to my attention. I am just so skeptical of everything anymore. Sounds like your Life’s Abundance is somewhat similar to Solid Gold although I wasn’t able to listen to the whole video because it cut off. The only reason I was giving a little BIL Jac was because I have never heard of any recalls or bad news surrounding Bil Jac which might not be the greatest of reasons but I phoned Solid Gold today to inquire about the safety of their food and was told the same thing as the previous 9 million calls that their product is very safe and to my knowledge they also don’t have wheat rice soy or anything like that in their food. My concern was just because they are manufactured by Diamond(which had some recalls on other products) I just don’t want to hear of any cross contamination in the future. I am not opposed to trying out your suggestion. Thanks again

  276. Itchmo » Blog Archive » Recall Update: Monday says:

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  277. Phyllis says:

    I JUST SENT THE FOLLOWING COMMENT TO IAMS. Iams costs a lot more than it is nutritionally worth :>(

    No Thank You to the free bag of cat “food.” I will not feed my cats ANYTHING that has Menu Foods as part of the making or distribution of it. They knew for years that entities could be putting various things in the grains, gluten, flours and proteins to falsify the nitrogen readings. They used it anyway, and in the case of some brands, even added lower grade products to keep production going. They may have added things that were not part of the recipe like Diamond Foods did. I lost my cat last summer to cat renal failure. Her food made her sick.

    The most damning circumstancial evidence is the attitude and actions of the CEO. Delaying notifying the public until he had sold off plenty of Menu Foods shares.

    SHAME ON YOU IAMS. You should have been keeping an eye on the production of your products with independent, random monitoring. YOU WERE ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL. You will not get my business, and I am warning all my friends against these cheap grain filled foods that sell at premiun prices.

    I have used Iams and Eukanuba in the past, but will no longer do so not only because of the pet food SCANDAL that should have surfaced years ago if you were doing your job right, but also because of the abhorrent treatment of some animals by your facilities and MOST ESPECIALLY BY MENU FOODS. The “16 confirmed dead” were mostly innocent cats and dogs fed FOOD THAT MENU FOODS KNEW WAS SUSPECT! It isn’t just PETA that has actual pictures of your at best clumsy, and misguided treatment of your study subjects. Others do too. And it appears that many if not most of your workers looks at this care as “just a job,” not as the opportunity to carefully and lovingly take care of your animals.

    YOur paying of vets to recommend your products, and then brag about it, puts me in mind of pharmaceutical companies promoting drugs they KNEW would harm people just to make a buck. Shame on them, and shame on Iams and Eukanuba for following the “everybody’s doing it mind set.”

    I never bought that excuse from my children, and I do not accept it from pet food manufacturers like Proctor and Gamble, Purina, etc. etc.

    I am currently buying Innova EVO, Evolutionary Diet. It has NO GRAINS or any type of ANIMAL BY-PRODUCTS. I am NOT BUYING FOOD FROM PETCO anymore. I am buying only from a small local entity that does not carry ANY OF YOUR PRODUCTS, OR OTHER RECALLED COMPANIES (Natural Balance excepted).

    Sincerely,

  278. Phyllis says:

    Penny — YOu are oh so right in your analysis of all our grocery foods. For learning to eat right try Andrew Weils

  279. Phyllis says:

    EATING RIGHT FOR OPTIMUM HEALTH. Shop the edges of the grocery store mostly — that is fresh meat, fresh produce.


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