Dog Fighting DVDs On Sale At Houston Gas Stations

Dog fighting DVDsWhen Houston resident Jonathon Paull was getting gas at a Southeast Houston gas station, he noticed dog fighting DVDs were on sale in the store.

Paull was completely shocked that these were being sold and displayed so openly. He said: “And they glamorize hurting animals and it’s sick. It’s disturbing and I’m outraged. This whole subculture of hurting and killing animals is just absolutely disgusting.”

Selling of dog fighting DVDs is illegal and is punishable with fines and up to five years in prison. But the store clerks said the DVDs are big sellers.

A local legal expert said that law enforcement can only do so much. He added: “The federal government has shown more interest in the folks that are making these videos than selling them.”

A local district attorney also added that she can’t do anything either.

“It’s disturbing to me that they’re actually selling these videos, but unfortunately there’s nothing I can do about it. If we were able to identify the participants in the videotape, the location and the date, then I could prosecute them,” said Assistant DA Belinda Smith.

This is challenging for prosecutors because most of the people in the DVDs disguise themselves when they are interviewed.

A Humane Society investigator said it is frustrating that they can’t prosecute stores that sell the DVDs. He stated: “We have to prove that they are knowingly selling a product that was depicting an illegal act and that in itself is very difficult.”

For now, Humane Society investigators can only politely ask stores to stop selling the dog fighting DVDs, but nothing can be enforced in the stores. This means that for now these DVDs depicting animal cruelty will remain on store shelves.

Source: KHOU, KVUE

Photo: TXCN.com

(Thanks Irene)

53 Responses to “Dog Fighting DVDs On Sale At Houston Gas Stations”

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  1. Beth says:

    If they wanted to pursue the origin of these videos it wouldn’t be that difficult.
    If they found out who supplied them to the gas station and start with the supplier. The owner of the gas station has to know who or where he purchased the videos.
    It’s like following a paper trail….
    Then someone had to produce, film and make the videos.

    If it’s illegal to sell this kind of video, why don’t the cops arrest someone?
    (Probably not the clerk behind the counter—but the owner of the gas station)

    It’s a little like the O.J. story. Arrest a few people and someone’s gonna talk.

  2. Beth says:

    P.S. If they were selling a marijuana cigarette or an Oxycontin pill at that gas station, you know there would be some arrests.
    Breaking the law is breaking the law.

  3. nora says:

    “Politely Ask” WTF are they talking about. If someone with the legal connections REALLY wanted to stop this bullsht, it can be done. This is outrageously skirting the whole issue of dogfighting. These videos should be confiscated and destroyed! AND whomever owns the establishment that the videos are being sold in should be heavily fined and prosecuted under the charge of “PROMOTING” Dog fighting, because that is exactly what they are doing.

  4. straybaby says:

    well let’s see here. they say they have to prove they are “knowingly selling a product that was depicting an illegal act”, right? so once they ask them to remove them because of the content, can’t they arrest them if they continue since they now KNOW what they are selling?!

  5. anonymous activist says:

    There are obviously other things that can be done about it. People can boycott those stores. They can send letters to newspapers and TV stations. They can protest outside and raise a stink about it. They can print up stickers that read “Illegal and Inhumane” and put them on the DVDs discreetly. They can steal the DVDs or vandalize them. They can trade them out for humane dog movies like Underdog. They can send threatening letters to the store owners. They can sue the store. There are things people can do if they want the DVDs gone.

  6. lammer29 says:

    I totally agree, they all passed the buck and yet the videos remain. Why Can’t the distributor be arrested and then he can bargain so they can get to the others in the chain of fools?Of course there are legal avenues and that DA is full of it! I would definitely start a smear campaign of the sotre and put pressure on the local law to get rid of them, maybe it will take awhile to find those who made the movies, but they can pull off shelves immediately. Sure porn would probably be a big sell, too, but is profit everything?? I’d like to know the name of the gas station, I’d boycott if they are in my area of the country, for sure. Publicity is power!

  7. Beth says:

    Hey Anonymous—These are all good suggestions that you make. (BTW, I always look for your Posts since they have a lot of ’substance”)
    But the “public” should not have to do all of the things that you recommend. they are breaking the law selling these videos…
    Start a ‘pimping service’ out of that gas station, and the cop cars would be surrounding the building. ………..
    This is ONE thing that we can handle and irradicate as a group. The PFI and tainted stuff—the most we can do is BOYCOTT (and “hope” that the FDA solves the problem).
    But these videos are from back-yard amateurs like Michael Vick and just “one step ahead of the law”. They are far easier to aprehend, jail and fine than the whole corrupt country of China.
    Can we start a campaign to barroge the Houston newspapers with this article and maybe get the law into gear?

  8. Lynn says:

    Follow the real money: the supplier, Am*zon.com

  9. pat says:

    another way to slow these gas station people down is to complain to whomever supplies the gas to them. jcall exxon or whatever and say you won’t be using their gas because their distributors sell these dvds at their establishments, and that you’ll tell everyone you know to do the same thing.

  10. Velvet's Dad says:

    Are these local prosecutors idiots? You can’t arrest the store owners unless they know they are selling something illegal, acc. to the prosecutors. Okay, once someone, even a citizen, notifies the owner (in writing), the owner has been notified. If the DVDs are not removed, the police should issue citations and make arrests. What is so difficult about that? Truth apparently is the prosecutors don’t give a damn. They’re the real problem.

  11. Furbabies says:

    Our justice system is broken and desperately needs to be fixed. Obviously if dogfighting is illegal then the DVDs would be illegal. DUH! And, knowing that dogfighting is illegal, the gas station is then selling illegal items. Right? Our laws are so pro-criminal (thanks to the fruit cakes in the 70’s). A woman in Boston with art on her sweatshirt is going to be charged with a fake bomb, and these sh*ts get away with murder. This country is going to hell in a hand-basket.

  12. Nancy G. says:

    It’s always the same- the authorities want to skate by and not have to do anything, if they can get away with it. It’s the same reason they have been looking the other way for years about dog fighting in general. Not till the Michael Vick case broke open, and all the horrid details spilled out, did they finally get off their butts. Make a little noise, get some publicity about this, and force the local law to act. Sadly, it’s all too often the case that Officialdom won’t act, till they are forced to. School principals, store managers, city employees, you name it. Their first instinct is to not make more work for themselves.

  13. Nancy G. says:

    But I do like the idea of writing/ calling the oil company that franchises or owns this place- if there’s one thing Big Business understands, it’s bad PR. Does anyone know which oil company it is?

  14. Beth says:

    Let me know the name of the oil company that has this convience store.
    I’m HELL on WHEELS. I will write to every oil company, politician, news media….just give me the names and I”M READY!
    (BTW, I went to Amazon today and typed in “dog fighting videos” HOLY CRAP!! there were dozens of videos available thru Amazon. I know that the Amazon issue has been addressed before…but we have to figure out how to get around the sales of these horrible videos. Would Amazon be allowed to sell videos of “child porn”??? I bet not. Same! Same! A criminal is a criminal.

  15. Beth says:

    Let me know the name of the oil company that has this convience store.
    I’m HELL on WHEELS. I will write to every oil company, politician, news media….just give me the names and I”M READY!
    (BTW, I went to Amazon today and typed in “dog fighting videos” HOLY CRAP!! there were dozens of videos available thru Amazon. I know that the Amazon issue has been addressed before…but we have to figure out how to get around the sales of these horrible videos. Would Amazon be allowed to sell videos of “child porn”??? I bet not. Same! Same! A criminal is a criminal.

  16. pat says:

    if amazon is selling them, lean on them too. tell them you won;t buy anything from them and will tell all of your friends to do the same. the only thing that talks today is money, so let’s talk money. if they don’t believe that you can stir up enough crap to make a difference, just point them toward what has happened to menu foods. as far as i’m concerned, the people who turn a blind eye to dog fighting in the name of profit are no better than the people who poisoned our pets, and they should be treated exactly the same way.

  17. Lynn says:

    Amen,Pat.

    Someone should create a list of all the addresses where these books or videos are sold. Put it on the internet. Then, if you live in the area, or know someone who does, email them the “hit list” and have them send it to everyone they know, telling them to boycott the station. Get the local news media involved, too.

    And boycott Ama*on.com as they sell a large portion of the books. I’m guessing the videos are reproduced by some underground technician out to make some money. Wonder if the original was copyrighted? If the videos are reproduced illegally……well, there’s an opportunity to nail the sick you-know-whats.

    This is so disgusting.

  18. Lynn says:

    Houston??? Here’s the scoop on the Mayor:

    Mayor Bill White and his wife, Andrea, have helped lead numerous charitable and civic organizations. The Whites are parents of three students and attend St. Luke’s United Methodist Church.

    mayor@cityofhouston.net

    Send him an email telling him about the indifference his police department is showing regarding arresting the gas station owners for selling these videos. How would he like his kids and their friends to drive into one of these stations and see this stuff? Keep sending those emails.

    PS I copied this story and the comments and sent it to him. People posting here said it better than I ever could.

  19. mittens says:

    everyone and their dog has access to really cheap video equipment nowadays and judging from youtube they’re all making the most banal crap publically available. cheap almost professional level technology has trickled down so anyone with a computer and a dvd burner can churn out this stuff.

    i think dog fighters should be bludgeoned with baseball bats but you cannot start making media illegal because you disapprove of it’s content. it’s only right they only legally go after those actually fighting dogs not any recordings or writings about the events.in some countries dog fighting is legal afterall and who knows where these things are filmed. the acts are illegal-the printed matter and assorted media should be protected by the Constitution. you cannot erode this protection in anyway- it’s the slippery slope of outlawing opinions and thoughts- which should absolutely never be done.

    that said i would never consider buying gas at this place because they sell this cruel inhumane trash. i’d probably find a way to make oh i dunno a horrible accident happen to the display rack…. oopsy ! the community must find a vocal way to impress upon the owner that selling this barbarity is going to cost him more in lost business then he actually makes by selling it. chasing anon. made dvds available in metric tons everywhere is a fools errand for law enforcement and they know it. their time is better spent shutting down dog fighters directly. more dogs are saved that way- more a-holes go to prison.

  20. Lynn says:

    You should all be aware of this federal law:

    Sec. 48. Depiction of animal cruelty

    (a) Creation, Sale, or Possession. - Whoever knowingly creates, sells, or possesses a depiction of animal cruelty with the intention of placing that depiction in interstate or foreign commerce for commercial gain, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both. (b) Exception. - Subsection (a) does not apply to any depiction that has serious religious, political, scientific, educational, journalistic, historical, or artistic value. (c) Definitions. - In this section - (1) the term “depiction of animal cruelty” means any visual or auditory depiction, including any photograph, motion-picture film, video recording, electronic image, or sound recording of conduct in which a living animal is intentionally maimed, mutilated, tortured, wounded, or killed, if such conduct is illegal under Federal law or the law of the State in which the creation, sale, or possession takes place, regardless of whether the maiming, mutilation, torture, wounding, or killing took place in the State; and (2) the term “State” means each of the several States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, and any other commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States.

    Last modified: April 12, 2006

  21. EmilyS says:

    you know this is like pornography
    some depictions of sexual activities are pornographic.
    some are not.

    some books on dogfighting DO have historical merit and some are indeed very scholarly (Mike Homan’s for example)

    When you can clearly define the difference between depictions of dogfighting that are outside the legal exception in the section Lynn posted and those that are within it, you can start going after literature/video.

    the law properly give a huge leeway to depictions of illegal events….leeway not granted to the actual illegal events. We have this little concept called the First Amendment to the Constitution.

    I find the graphic depiction of human-human violence on TV in fiction AND in the news to be disgusting.

    But I don’t wish it to be banned… I exercise MY freedom of choice and don’t watch/read that stuff.

    I’d rather have the police going after actual dogfights than depictions of them.

  22. Robert Davis says:

    And again - these dogs get a bad review because of the morons that produce this crap….and force these dogs to fight….these idiots are the reason people want to ban pit bulls……very sad.

    http://www.stopthemnbreedban.com

    If you have a pit bull, rott, chow chow, akita or wolf-hybrid, visit my blog….there is information about Rep. Lesch of MN wanting to introduce legislation in 2008 to ban those breeds….. And this kind of stuff on DVD just fuels the fire - we need positive role models for people to see.

    Robert Davis

  23. Teresa says:

    Not to change the subject, but look in Dog Fancy magizine in the back kennel section, I was reading it tonight and was shocked at the ads they are allowed to put on on pit bull and “game” type dogs. One was steel jaw kennels, One stated “in life there will be many great competitors only a few will live on as legends-american bullies kennel.” and big and nasty kennels. These just don’t sound like kennels for family pets. Has any one else saw these and what do you think.

  24. Lynn says:

    While I agree that going after the persons actually involved in the operation is more important in terms of police manpower resources, let’s not forget that literature and videos such as those sold in these gas stations may actually inspire novices to participate, or send the message that bloodshed is ok.

    Normally I wouldn’t want my First Amendment rights taken away. However, I don’t believe that anyone who abuses animals is entitled to profit in any way shape or form [e.g., videos, literature]. So if this means that THEIR First Amendment rights are sacrificed…….so be it.

    Sale of child pornography is illegal. So how are the animal abuse videos and books any different? I really don’t think First Amendment rights should be applicable to anyone who promotes heinous crimes.

  25. Sharon says:

    If selling these is illegal what is stopping Houston PD from arresting the people involved? stupidity and corruption?

  26. Lynn says:

    Beats the heck out of me. That’s why you should email the Mayor of Houston, Bill White, at:

    mayor@cityofhouston.net

    He’s got a wife and 4 school-aged kids and attends church. Send him an email telling him about the indifference his police department is showing regarding arresting the gas station owners for selling these videos. How would he like his kids and their friends to drive into one of these stations and see this stuff?

    Keep sending those emails. Flood his inbox.

  27. Robert Davis says:

    An Open Letter to the Mayor of Houston - feel free to copy and customize for yourself and send to the mayer.

    Dear Mr. Mayor,

    According to an article from http://www.kvue.com/news/state.....86423.html and from http://www.itchmo.com

    The following was stated:

    Selling of dog fighting DVDs is illegal and is punishable with fines and up to five years in prison. But the store clerks said the DVDs are big sellers.

    A local legal expert said that law enforcement can only do so much. He added: “The federal government has shown more interest in the folks that are making these videos than selling them.”

    A local district attorney also added that she can’t do anything either.

    “We have to prove that they are knowingly selling a product that was depicting an illegal act and that in itself is very difficult,” said Timmers.

    What part of selling these DVD’s being illegal is not understood by the district attorney? If it is illegal and there are fines and prison terms set forth in the penal codes, then this should be addressed. What kind of message is this sending to young people or anyone for that matter?

    This is the way to handle it:

    1. Go buy the DVD
    2. Watch the DVD
    3. Take Screen shots from the DVD and present it to the Store Manager (they now know these are illegal DVD’s)
    4. Have the police confiscate the DVD’s
    5. Keep an eye on the stores to see if anymore show up on the shelves - i.e. when the police stop in to pick up a coke or snack (doesn’t cost any extra to watch the stores)

    Make it a financial burden for the store manager to even buy them….because he or she will just lose money when they are confiscated. Plus they are aware of the illegal nature of the DVD’s and they can face prison and fines.

    Thank you for considering my simple 5 step process of taking care of this as the Mayor of Houston. Would we even be having this conversation if someone thought these were sex tapes in the store?

    Regards,

    Robert F. Davis
    The Pet Food Tales and Stop the Minnesota Breed Ban
    http://www.petfoodtales.com
    http://www.stopthemnbreedban.com

  28. Robert Davis says:

    EmilyS

    You make a good point about the police going after the dog fighters and that is what needs to happen, but these tapes are not innocent depictions of 1st amendment speech…these amount to human snuff films which are illegal and not protected by the Constitution. I should have used that in my letter instead of “sex tapes” but either way, I think my point was made to the mayor. Maybe someone else can use the snuff film example in a letter to the mayor.

    Regards,

    Robert Davis

  29. Beth says:

    I wrote Mayor White a few lines. about the dog fighting videos found in the convenience store. I basically said that these videos are criminal and if they were videos of ‘kiddie-porn” he would already have the posse out.

  30. Lynn says:

    kEEP SENDING THOSE EMAILS TO THE HOUSTON MAYOR:

    mayor@cityofhouston.net

    Flood his inbox.

  31. Lynn says:

    I just got word a little while ago that the TMZ.com website has something on DMX again. I’ve responded to some of their comments. Please take a look-see.

    http://www.tmz.com/2007/09/23/.....3#c7758460

    Frankly, I see this as another Michael Vick case. [”I’m never there and I’m not responsible for what goes on at my house when I’m gone.” Bull.] I can only hope Arizona hasn’t filed charges because they’re waiting on the feds to do so.

  32. EmilyS says:

    Lynn noted:
    “While I agree that going after the persons actually involved in the operation is more important in terms of police manpower resources, let’s not forget that literature and videos such as those sold in these gas stations may actually inspire novices to participate, or send the message that bloodshed is ok.”

    you know, dogfighting was a minor and probably dying-out activity until the HSUS started promoting it as part of their organization-building agenda back in the 1970s. There are many people who with good cause believe that it was THEIR descriptions and hyping of dogfighting that attracted the attention of the moral cretins who have made it as prevalent as it seems to be today. Even today, you can more readily find video of dogfighting on the websites of so called “anti dogfighting” campaigns than in any average book store. And you’ll find more lies and propaganda about pit bulls as dangerous monsters in the daily press than in any rap video. So who’s guilty of promoting dogfighting?

    Dogfighting is a barbaric activitiy and I don’t hold up the old time “dogmen” as having any great virtue. But all the available evidence suggests that compared with the Michael Vick types, they were practically animal rights angels. (there is little evidence that they used “bait dogs” or gunpowder, or beat to death unsuccessful fighters.. in fact, the family pet bull of today probably derives from the failed fighters that were given to the wife and kids)

    Where did the dogmen learn their trade? From other dogmen. Where did Vick learn his? From the scum who believed the garbage promoted by HSUS and the news media

  33. Lynn says:

    EmilyS - You informed me of something I was not aware of.

    The question that goes through my mind is: Why did the HSUS begin pumping up the dogfighting issue back in the 70’s?

    It doesn’t seem logical that any organization would make something much bigger than what it is [was, in this case] unless they had the stats and evidence to support their claims.

    Off hand, I’d say that the dog fighting issue has multiplied dramatically since the 70’s because the population has increased significantly AND because wide-spread internet use came into being.

  34. Beth says:

    When you speak “DOG FIGHTING”, you have pushed my buttons. The BIG Buttons!
    I don’t care about the history of dog fighting and the fact that it was acceptable in midevil times.
    It is about TODAY….and it has been made a crime in all STATES.
    I don’t even understand how Yahoo can get away with ‘deviates’ selling dog-fighting videos on their websitse. Another case of it “being about the money” and to HELL with morality and what is right or wrong. Brittany Spears gets more publicity for showing off herself in a mini-skirt without panties than the unlawful, brutal and horrendous act of dog-fighting!
    Stand up for the dogs that can’t speak for themselves.
    Where are we America?
    Keep those letters flooding Mayor White in Houston, Texas.
    It’s taking down one deviate at a time and saving one dog at a time.

  35. Lynn says:

    Beth,

    It’s important to understand the history. If you don’t understand how dogfighting evolved, you have no hope of getting to the present-day source and wiping out this heinous act.

  36. Lynn says:

    Too, I hope one zealous reporter hassles Huckabee [who’s running for President] about what his now-adult son is up to these days. [Google “Huckabee, Arkansas, son, dog killed in 1997 or 1998]

    They covered up this monstrous act nearly a decade ago…..so I say go after the father who’s running for President. Heinous acts by children should always penalize the parents, too.

  37. 2CatMom says:

    I can’t remember the source but urban dog fighting got a big boost when Sport Illustrated had a vicious looking pit bull on its cover maybe 15 years ago.

  38. Lynn says:

    Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.

  39. Lynn says:

    2CatMom:

    You have an excellent memory. It was July 27, 1987.

    http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse.....ls-on-its/

  40. Beth says:

    Lynn–there also used to be a lot of polygamy, but it too is not accepted in today’s society, altho some religions still practice it. But they aren’t killing anything in the process.
    I lived in Spain and the bull-fighting is an age-old traditon. I hate it….and thank God we don’t have bull fighting here in the United States. It too is a barbaric sport which involves torment and a “slow-kill” of an inocent animal. Dog fighting is no different, no matter what the history is.
    We don’t live in the yester-years. We live in TODAY where laws have been put on the books to protect the innocent. The dogs involved in fighting are among the “innocent”.
    So beccause of your understanding of the age-old tradition of dog fighting, should Michalel Vick get a lighter sentence—your feed on this one????

  41. straybaby says:

    EmilyS says:
    September 23rd, 2007 at 4:19 pm

    “Dogfighting is a barbaric activitiy and I don’t hold up the old time “dogmen” as having any great virtue. But all the available evidence suggests that compared with the Michael Vick types, they were practically animal rights angels. (there is little evidence that they used “bait dogs” or gunpowder, or beat to death unsuccessful fighters.. in fact, the family pet bull of today probably derives from the failed fighters that were given to the wife and kids)”

    this is what i thought also. i knew a bit about the history of dog fighting and what vick and co. did to his dogs was a shock to me.

  42. Beth says:

    Probably in years gone by, it was “my dog is tougher than your dog”?
    Today it has evolved into a heinous sport that goes underground and slinks around in back rooms, barracated walls, sound-proof rooms, secret adjendas, high betting, ‘bait’ animals that don’t deserve the torment of their death, steroids, chains, treadmills, and everything else that goes on with the underworld with drugs and weapons.
    Crime breeds all of the most horrendous violaitions immaginable. Any form of dog fighting is a fuel to the underground and crime.
    ANY crime should be prosecuted.
    Don’t permit these videos on the shelves. It is letting the public think that dog-fighting is an ‘o.k.” sport.

  43. straybaby says:

    Beth says:
    September 23rd, 2007 at 7:39 pm

    Probably in years gone by, it was “my dog is tougher than your dog”?

    nope. it was full out dog fighting.

  44. Beth says:

    HEY ALL! PEACE!
    It doesn’t matter what the history of dog-fighting is. It is today and it is
    going on all around us. Go to Pet Abuse.com and you can see the “flags” where they are aware that this underworld sport is going on.
    I know that the Sheriff of Gwinnett County, GA. has offered $10,000 reward for the arrest and conviction of dog-fighting cartel. Sheriff Conway is a good guy and obviously loves animals.
    Instead of worrying about the ‘history’ of dog fighting, how can we band together to get more public awarness and more aprehended for being involved in this ghastly sport?
    Since Vick, and now the guy in AZ. there is a lot more public awareness.
    If you know of anything I can do to help these dogs, let me know.

  45. Cathy says:

    I have always been a frequent customer of Amazon. I let them know that they lost a customer unless they stop promoting violence against animals with these books and videos. I’m passing this on to everyone I know. A little here and there might make a difference.

  46. Lynn says:

    Beth:

    Let me make myself very clear:

    ~ I do not support dog fighting, Michael Vick, or anyone connected with dogfighting or any form of animal abuse.

    ~ I have never ever supported any argument that advocates that growing up in a culture that accepts dog fighting as sport makes it excusable or warrants a lesser sentence.

    ~ The history is VERY, VERY important, and I’m glad someone introduced historical info into the thread. [It was not me.] Without knowledge of HOW dog fighting began and progressed there’s little chance of developing an effective and enduring solution to the problem.

    Just because I ask questions or write about demographics/sociological elements that are entwined with dog fighting, does NOT mean I advocate them.

  47. 8tiggers says:

    Emily S,

    Unlike the violence on TV in which it’s all acting and nobody actually gets hurt, the animals in those videos do get mauled or killed.

  48. Diana says:

    What is wrong with this country? We can have the right of saluting of the American Flag in schools, and the reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance, taken away from us, but they can’t stop this man from selling these videos in his store and it’s a crime to sell them? Oh, please!!! People are having their dogs, taken away or they have to give them away or put them down, because of this Breed Specific Legislation that is sweeping the country, targeting Pit Bulls and other breeds of dogs, just based on their breed, not their actions, but we can’t stop this gas station owner from the selling and promoting of the illegal sport of dog fighting. What is really the reason that they are not doing there job, is my question.
    This man should be charged with the crime of promoting dog fighting!!! We need to make a great effort to make the police, and our criminal justice system, really do their job and stop this horrible, crime.

  49. John Macossay says:

    Get real, people. Any small business can be hassled out of existence by the police, and all small business owners have to make payments to the police to avoid this. As long as they make their payments (and “campaign contributions” to the DA), the police look the other way.

  50. Pro dog fighting says:

    Who cares if they are selling dog fighting videos. If people want to buy them, let them.

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