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	<title>Comments on: Dog Injured By Anti-Bark Collar At Kennel</title>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-264057</link>
		<author>Jessica</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going through this with my dog and a boarding kennel now. However, a citronella collar was stated to be used. My dog has puncture marks over his trachea. The kennel owner lied to us and told us the injury occured from another dog. I took pictures of the injury and e-mailed them to our county humane officer. The humane officer called the kennel and the kennel then admitted to using the citronella collar. The kennel owner would not return my call for weeks. Finally, when we did speak, the owner was shouting at me and said that I was "paranoid". She hung up on me. We are taking her to court for negligence and failure to disclose information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going through this with my dog and a boarding kennel now. However, a citronella collar was stated to be used. My dog has puncture marks over his trachea. The kennel owner lied to us and told us the injury occured from another dog. I took pictures of the injury and e-mailed them to our county humane officer. The humane officer called the kennel and the kennel then admitted to using the citronella collar. The kennel owner would not return my call for weeks. Finally, when we did speak, the owner was shouting at me and said that I was &#8220;paranoid&#8221;. She hung up on me. We are taking her to court for negligence and failure to disclose information.</p>
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		<title>By: bette</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-258395</link>
		<author>bette</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 18:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sue for negligence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sue for negligence!</p>
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		<title>By: bren</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-84044</link>
		<author>bren</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone thought about how one dog barking incessantly can disrupt the entire kennel complex causing stress to any softer dogs.  Surely something like a citronella anti bark collar keeps the kennels a lot calmer and more pleasant place for everyone    Be it dog or human</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone thought about how one dog barking incessantly can disrupt the entire kennel complex causing stress to any softer dogs.  Surely something like a citronella anti bark collar keeps the kennels a lot calmer and more pleasant place for everyone    Be it dog or human</p>
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		<title>By: A&#38;MDVM</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-79969</link>
		<author>A&#38;MDVM</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-79969</guid>
		<description>A bark collar is not set off by "bumping" or by other dogs barking.  Bark collars have sophisticated technology that detect the vibrations of the vocal cords only of the dog wearing it.  Whining won't even set a bark collar off, it has to be a bark and it has to be the dog wearing the collar.

For a bark collar to operate properly it must sit directly on the vocal cords.  The dog in this incident had rub marks on the side of her neck.  Once the collar worked its way to the side of the neck it was usless as the sensor would not pick up the vibrations of the vocal cords and would not have been activated.  

In addition, bark collars do not burn the dogs, the "shock" is static electricity, it is meant to startle the dog and interrupt the barking, it does not cause pain anymore then you are caused pain when you walk across a carpted floor and touch a doorknob.  ALL collars have a built in delay between shocks. Even if a dog were to bark constantly the bark collar will only deliver the shock every minute or so.  NO bark collar will continously shock a dog.

I independently examined the dog in question.  The spots on the dogs neck were similar to hot spots caused by the collar rubbing, much like a shoe might rub a raw spot on your foot.  There was no animal cruelty involved.  I feel it is irresponsible for people who don't know the facts of the case to post on public forums.  I have no affiliation with either the owner of the dog or the owner of the business.  All I know is what I initially saw.  I will also point out that once the dog was taken home the owners had trouble with her scratching at her neck making the hot spot worse.  The photo shown on the Ch. 4 report does not represent what I saw when I examined the dog immediately after she was picked up from the kennel.  The area on her neck appears worse in the photos, I attribute this to the excessive scratching.

I visit many kennels and boarding facilities in the course of my job.  And it is a fact that many of them use bark collars.  

I truly feel for both parties, but the dog healed quickly.  Posts like what I have read here keep the gossip and half-truths circulating long after the incident should be forgotten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bark collar is not set off by &#8220;bumping&#8221; or by other dogs barking.  Bark collars have sophisticated technology that detect the vibrations of the vocal cords only of the dog wearing it.  Whining won&#8217;t even set a bark collar off, it has to be a bark and it has to be the dog wearing the collar.</p>
<p>For a bark collar to operate properly it must sit directly on the vocal cords.  The dog in this incident had rub marks on the side of her neck.  Once the collar worked its way to the side of the neck it was usless as the sensor would not pick up the vibrations of the vocal cords and would not have been activated.  </p>
<p>In addition, bark collars do not burn the dogs, the &#8220;shock&#8221; is static electricity, it is meant to startle the dog and interrupt the barking, it does not cause pain anymore then you are caused pain when you walk across a carpted floor and touch a doorknob.  ALL collars have a built in delay between shocks. Even if a dog were to bark constantly the bark collar will only deliver the shock every minute or so.  NO bark collar will continously shock a dog.</p>
<p>I independently examined the dog in question.  The spots on the dogs neck were similar to hot spots caused by the collar rubbing, much like a shoe might rub a raw spot on your foot.  There was no animal cruelty involved.  I feel it is irresponsible for people who don&#8217;t know the facts of the case to post on public forums.  I have no affiliation with either the owner of the dog or the owner of the business.  All I know is what I initially saw.  I will also point out that once the dog was taken home the owners had trouble with her scratching at her neck making the hot spot worse.  The photo shown on the Ch. 4 report does not represent what I saw when I examined the dog immediately after she was picked up from the kennel.  The area on her neck appears worse in the photos, I attribute this to the excessive scratching.</p>
<p>I visit many kennels and boarding facilities in the course of my job.  And it is a fact that many of them use bark collars.  </p>
<p>I truly feel for both parties, but the dog healed quickly.  Posts like what I have read here keep the gossip and half-truths circulating long after the incident should be forgotten.</p>
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		<title>By: Dappy</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-77086</link>
		<author>Dappy</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a dog trainer and kennel owner, his statements that everyone uses them is absolutely untrue!  In addition, there are newer, more humane ways to control barking that we introduce alot of people to in our training that are citronella based anti bark collars, only emitting unpleasant odors to the animals.....maybe they should stay up with the times!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a dog trainer and kennel owner, his statements that everyone uses them is absolutely untrue!  In addition, there are newer, more humane ways to control barking that we introduce alot of people to in our training that are citronella based anti bark collars, only emitting unpleasant odors to the animals&#8230;..maybe they should stay up with the times!</p>
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		<title>By: Pit Bull Lover</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-45077</link>
		<author>Pit Bull Lover</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 01:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-45077</guid>
		<description>Kinda on-topic...kinda off-topic:

Sutton the dog is so CUTE!  Look at her smiling face -- and her tail is a blur!  I'm glad she wasn't hurt too badly, and I hope she isn't too terribly traumatized.  She looks like a sweet, energetic girl...

Shame on the Marrs and their Park Cities Obedience School &#38; Dog Daycare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda on-topic&#8230;kinda off-topic:</p>
<p>Sutton the dog is so CUTE!  Look at her smiling face &#8212; and her tail is a blur!  I&#8217;m glad she wasn&#8217;t hurt too badly, and I hope she isn&#8217;t too terribly traumatized.  She looks like a sweet, energetic girl&#8230;</p>
<p>Shame on the Marrs and their Park Cities Obedience School &amp; Dog Daycare.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny Bark</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-44847</link>
		<author>Jenny Bark</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 03:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-44847</guid>
		<description>I'm with Trudy, this is animal cruilty.  I bet a lot of people will stop going to them.  I have heard so many things about day care &#38; kennels that we bought a motor home.  Anytime we have to be somewhere for longer than 8 hours all our dogs &#38; Kitty go with us.  dogs bark if you don't like it don't work with them or have one.  Shock collars should be put on the people who use them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Trudy, this is animal cruilty.  I bet a lot of people will stop going to them.  I have heard so many things about day care &amp; kennels that we bought a motor home.  Anytime we have to be somewhere for longer than 8 hours all our dogs &amp; Kitty go with us.  dogs bark if you don&#8217;t like it don&#8217;t work with them or have one.  Shock collars should be put on the people who use them.</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-44831</link>
		<author>Marilyn</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 03:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-44831</guid>
		<description>Anybody notice the ads that appear to the left of this article?  Kind of ironic, isn't it that along with an article that demonstrates the harm that can come from shock collars, that we see three ads for shock collars.

By the way, I have been a dog trainer for many years, and I am also a vet tech and we board dogs at our clinic.  I have never, and will never use a shock collar on any dog.  And I know many of my colleagues do not use them either.  So, when someone says "everyone uses them" that is simply not true.

To HighNote, your vet probably meant no harm recommending a shock collar to you, but the fact is most vets don't know a great deal about behavior.  The majority of them are not trained in behavior (unless they select that specialty), and they are more focused on the physical aspect of their patients which is what they trained for in vet school.  There are exceptions, of course.  So when discussing behavior with your vet, it is probably a good idea to determine what their knowledge and experience base is in that regard.  Just a suggestion....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody notice the ads that appear to the left of this article?  Kind of ironic, isn&#8217;t it that along with an article that demonstrates the harm that can come from shock collars, that we see three ads for shock collars.</p>
<p>By the way, I have been a dog trainer for many years, and I am also a vet tech and we board dogs at our clinic.  I have never, and will never use a shock collar on any dog.  And I know many of my colleagues do not use them either.  So, when someone says &#8220;everyone uses them&#8221; that is simply not true.</p>
<p>To HighNote, your vet probably meant no harm recommending a shock collar to you, but the fact is most vets don&#8217;t know a great deal about behavior.  The majority of them are not trained in behavior (unless they select that specialty), and they are more focused on the physical aspect of their patients which is what they trained for in vet school.  There are exceptions, of course.  So when discussing behavior with your vet, it is probably a good idea to determine what their knowledge and experience base is in that regard.  Just a suggestion&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Trudy Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-44808</link>
		<author>Trudy Jackson</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 23:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I would sue if they did that to My dog. I hope they do. This is animal cruilty. 
No wonder I like pets better than people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I would sue if they did that to My dog. I hope they do. This is animal cruilty.<br />
No wonder I like pets better than people.</p>
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		<title>By: HighNote</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-44714</link>
		<author>HighNote</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 15:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ellen.  I have never used these things myself but my kids vet said to use it and I thought it was reather unhumane!  I do not believe in such things. I will certainly inform them about all of this and hope in the future they do not continue to use such a terrible thing.  Do not know why anyone would.  I have never had to use such things to train any of my pets.  I wondered why a vet would say to use it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ellen.  I have never used these things myself but my kids vet said to use it and I thought it was reather unhumane!  I do not believe in such things. I will certainly inform them about all of this and hope in the future they do not continue to use such a terrible thing.  Do not know why anyone would.  I have never had to use such things to train any of my pets.  I wondered why a vet would say to use it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-44698</link>
		<author>Ellen</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 13:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-44698</guid>
		<description>It warms my heart to see how many of the comments here show how well people understand that using a shock collar is not a good idea!

Attempts at punishment, after a behavior has already happened, are the weakest way to deal with an animal. Using pain, especially from a shock collar, is lazy and often ineffective.

Excessive barking is not any easy problem to solve, but dogs are so easily motivated -- there had to have been another solution. 

And a quick note to HighNote -- yes this is the same kind of collar. It is a very strange choice for a dog who runs from people -- a solid recall on cue is best taught with reward and lots of practice, not pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It warms my heart to see how many of the comments here show how well people understand that using a shock collar is not a good idea!</p>
<p>Attempts at punishment, after a behavior has already happened, are the weakest way to deal with an animal. Using pain, especially from a shock collar, is lazy and often ineffective.</p>
<p>Excessive barking is not any easy problem to solve, but dogs are so easily motivated &#8212; there had to have been another solution. </p>
<p>And a quick note to HighNote &#8212; yes this is the same kind of collar. It is a very strange choice for a dog who runs from people &#8212; a solid recall on cue is best taught with reward and lots of practice, not pain.</p>
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		<title>By: kaefamily</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-44606</link>
		<author>kaefamily</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 05:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The boarding kennel should inform potential customers that they don't take barking dogs.</description>
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		<title>By: Danielle</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-44574</link>
		<author>Danielle</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 03:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-44574</guid>
		<description>The boarding kennel needs to seriously be sued, I really hope everyone stopped taking their dogs there.That's horrible torture! Think of how many times he must have been shocked with all that noise around him. I've never used these type of collars so I'm not sure how they work- but it has to be either sound activated or movement activated- like vocal cords vibrating- either way it's a dog daycare- so he was being bumped into and barked at. I'm suprised he even still tolerates being around other dogs- since god knows what he thought he was being shocked for. These people are incredibly sick- and stupid. And it's not some freak occurance for a electric collar to cause punctures and burns- working at a vet's office I've seen quite a few punctures and burns caused by shock collars or electric fence collars- the only difference is that those dogs owners had put the collars on them- and in this case it was a boarding kennel. If the barking was bothering them that much then these people really need to change careers b/c- newsflash! KENNELS ARE NOISY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The boarding kennel needs to seriously be sued, I really hope everyone stopped taking their dogs there.That&#8217;s horrible torture! Think of how many times he must have been shocked with all that noise around him. I&#8217;ve never used these type of collars so I&#8217;m not sure how they work- but it has to be either sound activated or movement activated- like vocal cords vibrating- either way it&#8217;s a dog daycare- so he was being bumped into and barked at. I&#8217;m suprised he even still tolerates being around other dogs- since god knows what he thought he was being shocked for. These people are incredibly sick- and stupid. And it&#8217;s not some freak occurance for a electric collar to cause punctures and burns- working at a vet&#8217;s office I&#8217;ve seen quite a few punctures and burns caused by shock collars or electric fence collars- the only difference is that those dogs owners had put the collars on them- and in this case it was a boarding kennel. If the barking was bothering them that much then these people really need to change careers b/c- newsflash! KENNELS ARE NOISY!</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-44564</link>
		<author>Dennis</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 00:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if anyone considered that other dogs barking near this one with the electrocollar might trigger this collar too??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if anyone considered that other dogs barking near this one with the electrocollar might trigger this collar too??</p>
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		<title>By: HighNote</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-injured-by-anti-bark-collar-at-kennel-2157#comment-44557</link>
		<author>HighNote</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 00:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My daughters vet told her to use this shock collar  for her dog is this the same as the bark collar??  they have used it when he tries to run from them.  I would really like to know if there is a difference.  Can anyone tell me?  thanks for the info</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My daughters vet told her to use this shock collar  for her dog is this the same as the bark collar??  they have used it when he tries to run from them.  I would really like to know if there is a difference.  Can anyone tell me?  thanks for the info</p>
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