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		<title>By: Macy</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56680</link>
		<author>Macy</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When this contaminated dog food thing started, I decided that I would home cook for my dog. I felt that if this thing happened once, it could very well happen again.

 As far as having the dog food tested, what will that begin to mean, you have to send out a sample before you feed your dog from the bag of food. Even if you did that, what if they tell you the food is safe to feed and it isn't. You can not trust any of them, with anything. They make mistakes, they blame it on someone else, they lie, they tell someone else to lie for them. Positively absurd.

We have seen how nasty and corrupt all of this has turned out to be

It takes more time for me to home cook, I enjoy doing it ... I am relaxed, I am not a nervous wreck, I am not scared when I see my dog eating his food. I am not thinking the whole time he is eating, what if there is something wrong with it --- what if this bag is safe, what about the next bag or the bag after that. When will your luck run out

I researched it well, my dog gets good food .. his calcium, his vitamins, his green blend, his omega 3 etc, etc

 It is the only way to go. I love him far too much for anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When this contaminated dog food thing started, I decided that I would home cook for my dog. I felt that if this thing happened once, it could very well happen again.</p>
<p> As far as having the dog food tested, what will that begin to mean, you have to send out a sample before you feed your dog from the bag of food. Even if you did that, what if they tell you the food is safe to feed and it isn&#8217;t. You can not trust any of them, with anything. They make mistakes, they blame it on someone else, they lie, they tell someone else to lie for them. Positively absurd.</p>
<p>We have seen how nasty and corrupt all of this has turned out to be</p>
<p>It takes more time for me to home cook, I enjoy doing it &#8230; I am relaxed, I am not a nervous wreck, I am not scared when I see my dog eating his food. I am not thinking the whole time he is eating, what if there is something wrong with it &#8212; what if this bag is safe, what about the next bag or the bag after that. When will your luck run out</p>
<p>I researched it well, my dog gets good food .. his calcium, his vitamins, his green blend, his omega 3 etc, etc</p>
<p> It is the only way to go. I love him far too much for anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Kristi</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56412</link>
		<author>Kristi</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 00:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blue plastic? I've been out of the livestock business for a while, but I know that there used to be ear tags in beef cattle that released powerful doses of insecticide to deal with all the flies, etc. in feedlots. Still around? That would be just great in dog food too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue plastic? I&#8217;ve been out of the livestock business for a while, but I know that there used to be ear tags in beef cattle that released powerful doses of insecticide to deal with all the flies, etc. in feedlots. Still around? That would be just great in dog food too.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56326</link>
		<author>Katie</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 19:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56326</guid>
		<description>E.   I'm glad you brought the topic up.  I'm home cooking but have friends who still want to feed commercial. It won't be until they have a sick or dying pet that they will finally come to their senses. But the info. on the blue plastic and clumping of vitamins/minerals is something I try to caution them about so they will at least monitor what the kibble and canned food looks like while dishing it out.

Caution and alertness keeps us all safe. 

Katie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E.   I&#8217;m glad you brought the topic up.  I&#8217;m home cooking but have friends who still want to feed commercial. It won&#8217;t be until they have a sick or dying pet that they will finally come to their senses. But the info. on the blue plastic and clumping of vitamins/minerals is something I try to caution them about so they will at least monitor what the kibble and canned food looks like while dishing it out.</p>
<p>Caution and alertness keeps us all safe. </p>
<p>Katie</p>
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		<title>By: E. Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56318</link>
		<author>E. Hamilton</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 18:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56318</guid>
		<description>There is a thread in the forum for info on the plastic pieces.

I am almost sorry that I brought it up because this is bound to degenerate into another "this lot of that food over some other brand of overpriced poison labeled as premium pet food" and there will be many excuses made for each company involved, when as far as I can tell the pet food companies are real good at making excuses for themselves, an inventive bunch, those guys.

And someone is bound to get all pissy over HOW the research is being done, not to their exacting standards. Geez, people who will call a pet food company and take the word of  some anonymous customer service rep paid by a proven poisoner , sometimes the very company that killed their pets and has not paid the vet bill, will then get all bent out of shape over the lab used for the testing and why the person who paid for the testing is not posting, under their real name , all the info, in every detail that the pissy person wants. 

It makes no nevermind to me because I aint buying any pet food , I was just curious because there is a staggering amount of plastic pieces in pet food and that seems...bad.

But hey, let the games begin, what is a little more crap and grief and hurt after the last 6 months?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a thread in the forum for info on the plastic pieces.</p>
<p>I am almost sorry that I brought it up because this is bound to degenerate into another &#8220;this lot of that food over some other brand of overpriced poison labeled as premium pet food&#8221; and there will be many excuses made for each company involved, when as far as I can tell the pet food companies are real good at making excuses for themselves, an inventive bunch, those guys.</p>
<p>And someone is bound to get all pissy over HOW the research is being done, not to their exacting standards. Geez, people who will call a pet food company and take the word of  some anonymous customer service rep paid by a proven poisoner , sometimes the very company that killed their pets and has not paid the vet bill, will then get all bent out of shape over the lab used for the testing and why the person who paid for the testing is not posting, under their real name , all the info, in every detail that the pissy person wants. </p>
<p>It makes no nevermind to me because I aint buying any pet food , I was just curious because there is a staggering amount of plastic pieces in pet food and that seems&#8230;bad.</p>
<p>But hey, let the games begin, what is a little more crap and grief and hurt after the last 6 months?</p>
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		<title>By: Trudy Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56256</link>
		<author>Trudy Jackson</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 16:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And these were very flexible until I put them in the baggie. Some of Mine are different colors. Blue and some black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And these were very flexible until I put them in the baggie. Some of Mine are different colors. Blue and some black.</p>
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		<title>By: purringfur</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56254</link>
		<author>purringfur</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 16:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those researching plastic ear or tail tags???

Some ear tags contain insecticides.  Some say designed to remain flexible in any temperatures.  Several colors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those researching plastic ear or tail tags???</p>
<p>Some ear tags contain insecticides.  Some say designed to remain flexible in any temperatures.  Several colors.</p>
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		<title>By: Trudy Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56248</link>
		<author>Trudy Jackson</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 16:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56248</guid>
		<description>The plastic I have came from The Friskies can. I think it was 3 different cans of savory salmon. I have a 20 year old cat who just had all Her teeth out, and she would eat something real soft. 
Anyway, I just checked on My plastic peices in My baggie where I keep them. they are drying out and look little and very sharp, and very hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The plastic I have came from The Friskies can. I think it was 3 different cans of savory salmon. I have a 20 year old cat who just had all Her teeth out, and she would eat something real soft.<br />
Anyway, I just checked on My plastic peices in My baggie where I keep them. they are drying out and look little and very sharp, and very hard.</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56244</link>
		<author>jane</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 15:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56244</guid>
		<description>Concerning plastic, My cat died in May, she was diabetic and had all the toxic symptoms.  I was using a long, under the bed plastic storage container for a litter box to make it easier for her to get in and out of.  As I was scraping a block of urine from the corner and side of the container ( clumping litter)  I noticed it being strange.  The clump was encased in a plastic wall,  thick white plastic all around the urine.  In fact, it actually stood up alone.  Did not appear to be from the container or litter.  Decided it must have been a reaction from the urine and the container.  Vet agreed as there was no other explanation at the time, and she was having a lot of problems at that time.  Continued to use same container, it never happened again.  I also use these containers for other cats and have never had a problem.  I've always wondered if the poison food she was on could have been the cause.  Also,  does anyone know how to get a reddish, orange stain out of a carpet.  She had missed the litter box and this stain will not come out,  almost looks like a dye.  This poor cat went through hell,  many vet trips,  and I still miss her so much.  Yes,  I hold the pet food co. responsible and don't understand how it can continue on and on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning plastic, My cat died in May, she was diabetic and had all the toxic symptoms.  I was using a long, under the bed plastic storage container for a litter box to make it easier for her to get in and out of.  As I was scraping a block of urine from the corner and side of the container ( clumping litter)  I noticed it being strange.  The clump was encased in a plastic wall,  thick white plastic all around the urine.  In fact, it actually stood up alone.  Did not appear to be from the container or litter.  Decided it must have been a reaction from the urine and the container.  Vet agreed as there was no other explanation at the time, and she was having a lot of problems at that time.  Continued to use same container, it never happened again.  I also use these containers for other cats and have never had a problem.  I&#8217;ve always wondered if the poison food she was on could have been the cause.  Also,  does anyone know how to get a reddish, orange stain out of a carpet.  She had missed the litter box and this stain will not come out,  almost looks like a dye.  This poor cat went through hell,  many vet trips,  and I still miss her so much.  Yes,  I hold the pet food co. responsible and don&#8217;t understand how it can continue on and on.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ in IL</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56164</link>
		<author>JJ in IL</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 05:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>E. - gotta luv the elec. seat too! In gas room they grope and scratch at the air trying to get a breath. That might be a real good exp. for them to have and if they can survive it then guess they'd need a lil jolt in the ole chair afterwards, wouldn't they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E. - gotta luv the elec. seat too! In gas room they grope and scratch at the air trying to get a breath. That might be a real good exp. for them to have and if they can survive it then guess they&#8217;d need a lil jolt in the ole chair afterwards, wouldn&#8217;t they?</p>
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		<title>By: E. Hamilton</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56146</link>
		<author>E. Hamilton</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 03:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56146</guid>
		<description>Katie, no it is stiffer than bag material. I just got back from looking at the piece I know about and that thing has a wicked sharp edge on it , it could very well perforate MY stomach if I ate it and whether it is ear tags from cattle or not that does NOT belong in pet food.
And I am going out tomorrow to look at an assortment of "ear tags" because I really do not think that is what it is.

I have talked to several people today who have some ideas.

Geez, the more you look the more you find I guess, too bad the industry that makes the crap food is not all that concerned. But we knew that already.

Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katie, no it is stiffer than bag material. I just got back from looking at the piece I know about and that thing has a wicked sharp edge on it , it could very well perforate MY stomach if I ate it and whether it is ear tags from cattle or not that does NOT belong in pet food.<br />
And I am going out tomorrow to look at an assortment of &#8220;ear tags&#8221; because I really do not think that is what it is.</p>
<p>I have talked to several people today who have some ideas.</p>
<p>Geez, the more you look the more you find I guess, too bad the industry that makes the crap food is not all that concerned. But we knew that already.</p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56141</link>
		<author>Katie</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2007 02:38:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the blue plastic like the recyclable bags used in some places?

Katie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the blue plastic like the recyclable bags used in some places?</p>
<p>Katie</p>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56065</link>
		<author>Denise</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 22:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The blue plastic I found was a ragged sheet approx 12" x 5".  It was probably only a piece of a larger sheet.  It was stretched and torn a bit on the edges, like it was ripped off. In the can it was sort of spiraled and twisted tightly.

It wouldn't surprise me if an ear tag made it in. It would be more like a poker chip type fragment I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blue plastic I found was a ragged sheet approx 12&#8243; x 5&#8243;.  It was probably only a piece of a larger sheet.  It was stretched and torn a bit on the edges, like it was ripped off. In the can it was sort of spiraled and twisted tightly.</p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if an ear tag made it in. It would be more like a poker chip type fragment I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56064</link>
		<author>Katie</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 22:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denise

My golden's competition weight in her younger years was 49lb. She is a small golden.  At 7 years of age she was diagnosed with reactive histiocytosis (possibly systemic) so she is on long term prednisone to keep the disease under control. She has lost all her muscle mass - so she is even a lighter weight dog now. When the recall came....she ended up with kidney problems... on home cooking her autoimmune disease became completely stabilized, her lesions are gone, and her kidney function tests are back to normal.  But my vet and I found she needs carbs in the way of some grains to maintain body weight. She is a very active 12 year old.  Reason I found it is really important to remember when home cooking or even buying commercial dog food that all dogs can be different metabolically and have different needs.  I found with my dog, while I could take a diet "template", I needed to watch her weight and activity level and add or delete food items.  Something else that is different for her, and I don't know if it is the result of the cont. food in Feb. or just the years on commercial food - but in order for her to benefit from a home cooked diet, I need to puree all grains and veggies to a gruel form and shred my chicken or turkey.  She does better on grd hamburger than on beef stew meat.  Maybe all the years of commercial food messed up her GI tract!

Katie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denise</p>
<p>My golden&#8217;s competition weight in her younger years was 49lb. She is a small golden.  At 7 years of age she was diagnosed with reactive histiocytosis (possibly systemic) so she is on long term prednisone to keep the disease under control. She has lost all her muscle mass - so she is even a lighter weight dog now. When the recall came&#8230;.she ended up with kidney problems&#8230; on home cooking her autoimmune disease became completely stabilized, her lesions are gone, and her kidney function tests are back to normal.  But my vet and I found she needs carbs in the way of some grains to maintain body weight. She is a very active 12 year old.  Reason I found it is really important to remember when home cooking or even buying commercial dog food that all dogs can be different metabolically and have different needs.  I found with my dog, while I could take a diet &#8220;template&#8221;, I needed to watch her weight and activity level and add or delete food items.  Something else that is different for her, and I don&#8217;t know if it is the result of the cont. food in Feb. or just the years on commercial food - but in order for her to benefit from a home cooked diet, I need to puree all grains and veggies to a gruel form and shred my chicken or turkey.  She does better on grd hamburger than on beef stew meat.  Maybe all the years of commercial food messed up her GI tract!</p>
<p>Katie</p>
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		<title>By: Trudy Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56040</link>
		<author>Trudy Jackson</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say something about the food We eat. We have a lot of perdue chicken houses in this town. The Mexicans take these buses they cut down and take the baby chickens to the farms. The buses are deisel. My husband is a deisel mechanic. So, when the bus breaks down they bring it to His work. Last year they found a baby chicken left on the bus. i think it got in the glove compartment. this happens all the time, because the babies escape. The guys at work find them everywhere. And under anything you can imagine. After the guys have dropped the babies off they can't just bring one back and say it got loose. So, they usually leave it and it dies. All the guys have been bringing them home. Last year My husband ended up with one. We had chickens so that was fine. I had to put it in a large cage I have until it got big enough to go out. It started to grow real weired. It got huge in the breast but no where else. and so fast I couldn't believe it. It could hardly stand up after a while. The body part was just to big to support. I went out to feed it one day and it was dead, tipped upside down. the other guys had the same things happen. I think it got so big so fast that it was too big to support the heart. 
So yesterday, He found another one and it would have been left for the weekend to die so He brought it home. I'm going to watch this one even closer. And take pictures if it does this again. 
They are usually killed at a very early age, so I guess mine was too old. And yet it was still a baby. 
So, since it never had a mother , what in the Hell did they inject into the eggs to get these chickens to grow so fast? Nothing very good, I'm sure. this is really a terrible thing. This is also what We are eating. More chemicals and garbadge.It sure makes You wonder??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say something about the food We eat. We have a lot of perdue chicken houses in this town. The Mexicans take these buses they cut down and take the baby chickens to the farms. The buses are deisel. My husband is a deisel mechanic. So, when the bus breaks down they bring it to His work. Last year they found a baby chicken left on the bus. i think it got in the glove compartment. this happens all the time, because the babies escape. The guys at work find them everywhere. And under anything you can imagine. After the guys have dropped the babies off they can&#8217;t just bring one back and say it got loose. So, they usually leave it and it dies. All the guys have been bringing them home. Last year My husband ended up with one. We had chickens so that was fine. I had to put it in a large cage I have until it got big enough to go out. It started to grow real weired. It got huge in the breast but no where else. and so fast I couldn&#8217;t believe it. It could hardly stand up after a while. The body part was just to big to support. I went out to feed it one day and it was dead, tipped upside down. the other guys had the same things happen. I think it got so big so fast that it was too big to support the heart.<br />
So yesterday, He found another one and it would have been left for the weekend to die so He brought it home. I&#8217;m going to watch this one even closer. And take pictures if it does this again.<br />
They are usually killed at a very early age, so I guess mine was too old. And yet it was still a baby.<br />
So, since it never had a mother , what in the Hell did they inject into the eggs to get these chickens to grow so fast? Nothing very good, I&#8217;m sure. this is really a terrible thing. This is also what We are eating. More chemicals and garbadge.It sure makes You wonder??</p>
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		<title>By: MarySmith</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dog-owner-who-sent-in-mixed-dog-food-sample-to-expertox-responds-2694#comment-56038</link>
		<author>MarySmith</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: blue plastic

I've read somewhere in the past, that this blue plastic may be 'ear tags' from the hogs and cows that are sent to the rendering plants and then find their way into the pet food.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve read somewhere in the past, that this blue plastic may be &#8216;ear tags&#8217; from the hogs and cows that are sent to the rendering plants and then find their way into the pet food.</p>
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