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		<title>By: Ethics Professor Discusses Dog Fighting And Hunting &#124; Itchmo: News For Dogs &#38; Cats</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-54299</link>
		<author>Ethics Professor Discusses Dog Fighting And Hunting &#124; Itchmo: News For Dogs &#38; Cats</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] people, including NBA player Stephon Marbury, have compared dog fighting to hunting. In response to the comparison between dog fighting and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] people, including NBA player Stephon Marbury, have compared dog fighting to hunting. In response to the comparison between dog fighting and [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49669</link>
		<author>Lynne</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 11:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buster provides a link to petakillsanimals.  This is one of the websites run by the Center for Consumer Freedom:
The Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) (formerly called the "Guest Choice Network") is a front group for the restaurant, alcohol and tobacco industries. It runs media campaigns which oppose the efforts of scientists, doctors, health advocates, environmentalists and groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving, calling them "the Nanny Culture -- the growing fraternity of food cops, health care enforcers, anti-meat activists, and meddling bureaucrats who 'know what's best for you.' "

Over 40 of the group's 2005 expenditure was paid to Rick Berman's PR company, Berman &#38; Co. for "management services. [1] As part of its operations CCF runs a series of attack websites, including "consumerfreedom.com, activistcash.com, cspiscam.com, animal-scam.com, fishscam.com, obesitymyths.com, physiciansscam.com [and] petalkillsanimals.com"
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_Consumer_Freedom

Just so you know where your info is coming from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buster provides a link to petakillsanimals.  This is one of the websites run by the Center for Consumer Freedom:<br />
The Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) (formerly called the &#8220;Guest Choice Network&#8221;) is a front group for the restaurant, alcohol and tobacco industries. It runs media campaigns which oppose the efforts of scientists, doctors, health advocates, environmentalists and groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving, calling them &#8220;the Nanny Culture &#8212; the growing fraternity of food cops, health care enforcers, anti-meat activists, and meddling bureaucrats who &#8216;know what&#8217;s best for you.&#8217; &#8221;</p>
<p>Over 40 of the group&#8217;s 2005 expenditure was paid to Rick Berman&#8217;s PR company, Berman &amp; Co. for &#8220;management services. [1] As part of its operations CCF runs a series of attack websites, including &#8220;consumerfreedom.com, activistcash.com, cspiscam.com, animal-scam.com, fishscam.com, obesitymyths.com, physiciansscam.com [and] petalkillsanimals.com&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_Consumer_Freedom" rel="nofollow">http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind.....er_Freedom</a></p>
<p>Just so you know where your info is coming from.</p>
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		<title>By: straybaby</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49577</link>
		<author>straybaby</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 04:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49577</guid>
		<description>PBL,

MV has no control over what the judge asks him. if i have this right, the others only pled to the same charge, but submitted statements of fact. they are all pleading guilty to conspiracy to do *something* (sorry, don't remember exact charge!) it's a charge that carries a 5 yr $250,000 penalty max. seeing as the judge has a rep for being tough and made comments that sounded like he wasn't going easy on them, i think MV is up the river. he's pleaing to avoid the total truth, but it still may bite him in the ass with the state. remember, about an hour after the hearing, there may be a statement of facts posted as it happened with the others. there is no way he'll admit to the gambling charge as that seals his NFL future. He won't have to admit to killing dogs because he hasn't been charged with that. but that doesn't mean the judge won't ask about it . . . 

and don't forget, the feds have his financial records . . . . 

on a side note, i LOVE that they are calling him an EX-quarterback!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PBL,</p>
<p>MV has no control over what the judge asks him. if i have this right, the others only pled to the same charge, but submitted statements of fact. they are all pleading guilty to conspiracy to do *something* (sorry, don&#8217;t remember exact charge!) it&#8217;s a charge that carries a 5 yr $250,000 penalty max. seeing as the judge has a rep for being tough and made comments that sounded like he wasn&#8217;t going easy on them, i think MV is up the river. he&#8217;s pleaing to avoid the total truth, but it still may bite him in the ass with the state. remember, about an hour after the hearing, there may be a statement of facts posted as it happened with the others. there is no way he&#8217;ll admit to the gambling charge as that seals his NFL future. He won&#8217;t have to admit to killing dogs because he hasn&#8217;t been charged with that. but that doesn&#8217;t mean the judge won&#8217;t ask about it . . . </p>
<p>and don&#8217;t forget, the feds have his financial records . . . . </p>
<p>on a side note, i LOVE that they are calling him an EX-quarterback!</p>
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		<title>By: Pit Bull Lover</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49571</link>
		<author>Pit Bull Lover</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49571</guid>
		<description>WHAT?!?  Oh, HAY-ELL no.  This cannot be correct.  I know it's not RIGHT, but I'm going to be furious if it's accurate:

"When Michael Vick pleads guilty to dogfighting charges on Monday, he reportedly won't admit any guilt to killing dogs or gambling on dogfighting as detailed in his federal indictment, ESPN reported Thursday.

"Instead, the ex-Atlanta Falcons quarterback will admit to one count of interstate commerce for the purpose of taking dogs across state lines for dogfighting.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20417707/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHAT?!?  Oh, HAY-ELL no.  This cannot be correct.  I know it&#8217;s not RIGHT, but I&#8217;m going to be furious if it&#8217;s accurate:</p>
<p>&#8220;When Michael Vick pleads guilty to dogfighting charges on Monday, he reportedly won&#8217;t admit any guilt to killing dogs or gambling on dogfighting as detailed in his federal indictment, ESPN reported Thursday.</p>
<p>&#8220;Instead, the ex-Atlanta Falcons quarterback will admit to one count of interstate commerce for the purpose of taking dogs across state lines for dogfighting.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20417707/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20417707/</a></p>
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		<title>By: EmilyS</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49553</link>
		<author>EmilyS</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49553</guid>
		<description>Best Friends offers support for Vick dogs:
http://network.bestfriends.org/stopbsl/news/18124.html

unlike PETA and HSUS.

BF had a lot of experience with rescuing pit bulls of all sorts during Katrina, and I believe it really turned them around on the breed

Let's hope their voice carries weight</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best Friends offers support for Vick dogs:<br />
<a href="http://network.bestfriends.org/stopbsl/news/18124.html" rel="nofollow">http://network.bestfriends.org.....18124.html</a></p>
<p>unlike PETA and HSUS.</p>
<p>BF had a lot of experience with rescuing pit bulls of all sorts during Katrina, and I believe it really turned them around on the breed</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope their voice carries weight</p>
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		<title>By: momkat</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49551</link>
		<author>momkat</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49551</guid>
		<description>I'm personally against hunting too...so that comparison just compounds my disgust.
Man is the only creature who enjoys to torture and kill for sport.
That is a sad commentary on our species.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m personally against hunting too&#8230;so that comparison just compounds my disgust.<br />
Man is the only creature who enjoys to torture and kill for sport.<br />
That is a sad commentary on our species.</p>
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		<title>By: mittens</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49541</link>
		<author>mittens</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49541</guid>
		<description>if these poor unfortunates were raised in the manner of most highly sought after fighting dogs, as much as the many good hearted and well intentioned animal lovers here would have it, the hope for rehabilitation into household pets adoptable by the average pet owner is very very slim.

the dogs have been raised to be vicious-it has been literally beat into them through cruelty and a truly sociopathic manipulation of the animal's inherent desire to please it's ' master' at all costs. they have had every comfort and affection we would rain on our pets denied them-the life of a  beloved pet and family member is unknown to them. if theyve tasted the blood of the ring, putting them down for lack of anywhere to keep them without fear for the safety of other dogs, animals and humans is generally in truth the only humane option.

would that it were otherwise. most successful rehabs of so called ' pit bulls' are of the bait dogs-the unfortunate creatures used to train the champions- not of the successful and more vicious winners. PETA sucks but in this case their statement about most fighting dogs rehab chances is true.

 i would like to stress my comments are directed not at a breed of dogs but toward animals who have specifically been used for fighting .if they were successful fighters (and that they were still alive to be confiscated shows they probably were) the behaviors may be too ingrained. the fault is not the animal's and it seems so unfair that they are the one's who ultimately suffer the consequences of what a human has made of them by exploiting so completely their loyalty and trust.

vick should be forced to pay for any rehabilitation efforts, all vet care and to pay for a secure dwelling place so the animals deemed too dangerous can live out their lives and not be euthanized. it only seems fair. expensive and fair.

do we say it's ok to kill humans because afterall' people hunt deer'. stupid jocks. dog fighting is nothing like hunting. it's more race baiting-ie some thing like: white people hunt so its ok but black people fight dogs and it's not. mr. logic has left the building once again in the service of getting another thuggish rich black man off the hook for his criminal actions because he's allegedly only being prosecuted because of his color. such bullsheet. it is shameful to use the cause of equality under the law-something so many people suffered, fought and died for in this country- as a shill for trying to avoid the consequences of your clearly illegal not to mention unethical voluntary actions. the man is as self absorbed and entitled acting as any rich white man-the scale of his dog operation shows he had no fear of anyone daring to actually do something about a criminal behavior he felt he had every right to participate in. people should be ashamed of and disown his behavior not make self serving insulting excuses for it. the gang mentality shown by participating in dog fighting is the cancer eating away at inner city black communities and destroying lives. it cannot be explained away and it must not be tolerated and bandied about by rich people who have protections and resources unknown to poor people in a similar situation.. considering it part of a particular culture that's simply shunned or underground because of white racism/disapproval is perpetuating a self inflicted genocide - a willful eradication of all the life affirming brave achievements of the civil rights movement through denial of personal responsibility and projection of your own demons onto others .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if these poor unfortunates were raised in the manner of most highly sought after fighting dogs, as much as the many good hearted and well intentioned animal lovers here would have it, the hope for rehabilitation into household pets adoptable by the average pet owner is very very slim.</p>
<p>the dogs have been raised to be vicious-it has been literally beat into them through cruelty and a truly sociopathic manipulation of the animal&#8217;s inherent desire to please it&#8217;s &#8216; master&#8217; at all costs. they have had every comfort and affection we would rain on our pets denied them-the life of a  beloved pet and family member is unknown to them. if theyve tasted the blood of the ring, putting them down for lack of anywhere to keep them without fear for the safety of other dogs, animals and humans is generally in truth the only humane option.</p>
<p>would that it were otherwise. most successful rehabs of so called &#8216; pit bulls&#8217; are of the bait dogs-the unfortunate creatures used to train the champions- not of the successful and more vicious winners. PETA sucks but in this case their statement about most fighting dogs rehab chances is true.</p>
<p> i would like to stress my comments are directed not at a breed of dogs but toward animals who have specifically been used for fighting .if they were successful fighters (and that they were still alive to be confiscated shows they probably were) the behaviors may be too ingrained. the fault is not the animal&#8217;s and it seems so unfair that they are the one&#8217;s who ultimately suffer the consequences of what a human has made of them by exploiting so completely their loyalty and trust.</p>
<p>vick should be forced to pay for any rehabilitation efforts, all vet care and to pay for a secure dwelling place so the animals deemed too dangerous can live out their lives and not be euthanized. it only seems fair. expensive and fair.</p>
<p>do we say it&#8217;s ok to kill humans because afterall&#8217; people hunt deer&#8217;. stupid jocks. dog fighting is nothing like hunting. it&#8217;s more race baiting-ie some thing like: white people hunt so its ok but black people fight dogs and it&#8217;s not. mr. logic has left the building once again in the service of getting another thuggish rich black man off the hook for his criminal actions because he&#8217;s allegedly only being prosecuted because of his color. such bullsheet. it is shameful to use the cause of equality under the law-something so many people suffered, fought and died for in this country- as a shill for trying to avoid the consequences of your clearly illegal not to mention unethical voluntary actions. the man is as self absorbed and entitled acting as any rich white man-the scale of his dog operation shows he had no fear of anyone daring to actually do something about a criminal behavior he felt he had every right to participate in. people should be ashamed of and disown his behavior not make self serving insulting excuses for it. the gang mentality shown by participating in dog fighting is the cancer eating away at inner city black communities and destroying lives. it cannot be explained away and it must not be tolerated and bandied about by rich people who have protections and resources unknown to poor people in a similar situation.. considering it part of a particular culture that&#8217;s simply shunned or underground because of white racism/disapproval is perpetuating a self inflicted genocide - a willful eradication of all the life affirming brave achievements of the civil rights movement through denial of personal responsibility and projection of your own demons onto others .</p>
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		<title>By: Buster</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49521</link>
		<author>Buster</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49521</guid>
		<description>PETA KILLS PETS.  Read the evidence here.  Read the court case. Read what their members did to a worried little girl's cat and her kitens.

It is time to give these PETA frauds the boot and expose them for what they are.

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PETA KILLS PETS.  Read the evidence here.  Read the court case. Read what their members did to a worried little girl&#8217;s cat and her kitens.</p>
<p>It is time to give these PETA frauds the boot and expose them for what they are.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.petakillsanimals.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.petakillsanimals.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: AnimalChaplain Nancy</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49517</link>
		<author>AnimalChaplain Nancy</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49517</guid>
		<description>Hi, 
 
This Press Release is in memory of the animals tortured and slaughtered in dog fighting.  As personally satisfying as it would be to spay and neuter Michael Vick (with no anesthesia), we prefer to teach people how animals SHOULD BE TREATED, and what a blessing they are in our lives.  Thanks for reading it and passing it on. ~ Nancy Cronk at www.Animal Chaplains.com.  
Press Release August 22, 2007


"Animal Chaplains To Honor and Bless All Creatures on World Animal Day"

~ from the Interfaith Association of Animal Clergy


While Americans have watched in horror as celebrity athlete Michael Vick admits being a willling participant in one of the cruelest, most horrific crimes against animals ever committed, America needs an emotional healing.  That day is World Animal Day.

In what will look like a scene from the popular family movie, "Evan Almighty", scores of Animal Chaplains around the world will bless hundreds, perhaps thousands of animals in many different settings on October 4th 2007.  At a pet cemetery on the east coast, to a city park in the desert, to a sandy beach on the west coast, they will walk in on a leash, fly in on a harness, and slither in their cages.  Barking, mewing, bleating, mooing, whinnying and purring will join human voices in hymns of praise and worship.  World Animal Day is a day dedicated to honoring, blessing, and protecting animals all over the world.  

World Animal Day was founded at an ecologist's convention in Florence, Italy in 1931 as a way of highlighting the plight of endangered species.  October 4th was chosen as World Animal Day because it is also the Feast of St. Francis of Assisi, a Catholic Church holiday which is often celebrated with an annual "blessing of the pets".  Since then, it has grown to encompass all kinds of animal life and has been widely celebrated around the world.  Churches and synagogues in many faiths traditions have adopted "Pet Blessing Day" or "World Animal Day" in increasing numbers every year.  


The Interfaith Association of Animal Chaplains prepares for World Animal Day by referring its members and visitors to the official World Animal Day website.  The site provides ideas and resources to individuals, families, community groups and congregations everywhere.  People can post their pledge for volunteering at a World Animal Day event.  In addition to blessing pets, volunteers will work at animal shelters, zoos, rescues, and other nonprofit organizations.  Dogs will be walked, cats will be brushed, horses will be groomed, and fish will benefit from freshly cleaned tanks.  Donations will be given to animal welfare agencies, and pets will be adopted.  School children will collect pet food to be donated to charities, and bake sales and car washes will be held as fundraising events.  Veterinary clinics will hold free spay and neuter days, or may offer to vaccinate pets at no charge.  All over the world, on the very same day, the well-being of animals will be on the minds of millions of people.


Interfaith Chaplain Nancy Cronk feels a day honoring animals is very important at a time when the headlines speak of animal cruelty such as athlete Michael Vick's alleged ties to illegal dog fighting.  Animal Chaplains would like everyone to know that every major faith endorses the responsible stewardship of the earth and all of its creatures.  "Deliberate harming of animals is in direct opposition to teachings in all of the major world faiths.  Caring for animals is our global spiritual responsibility.  If we can teach this ethic to all of our children, animal abuse and suffering will someday become a distant memory".  


To find out how to get involved on World Animal Day, go to www.WorldAnimalDay.org.uk. To find out more about Animal Chaplains, go to www.AnimalChaplains.com. 


(This article may be reprinted.)

Nancy J. Cronk
Founder, Chair and Chaplain
Interfaith Association of Animal Chaplains
www.AnimalChaplains.com
Email: AnimalClergy@aol.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>This Press Release is in memory of the animals tortured and slaughtered in dog fighting.  As personally satisfying as it would be to spay and neuter Michael Vick (with no anesthesia), we prefer to teach people how animals SHOULD BE TREATED, and what a blessing they are in our lives.  Thanks for reading it and passing it on. ~ Nancy Cronk at <a href="http://www.Animal" rel="nofollow">www.Animal</a> Chaplains.com.<br />
Press Release August 22, 2007</p>
<p>&#8220;Animal Chaplains To Honor and Bless All Creatures on World Animal Day&#8221;</p>
<p>~ from the Interfaith Association of Animal Clergy</p>
<p>While Americans have watched in horror as celebrity athlete Michael Vick admits being a willling participant in one of the cruelest, most horrific crimes against animals ever committed, America needs an emotional healing.  That day is World Animal Day.</p>
<p>In what will look like a scene from the popular family movie, &#8220;Evan Almighty&#8221;, scores of Animal Chaplains around the world will bless hundreds, perhaps thousands of animals in many different settings on October 4th 2007.  At a pet cemetery on the east coast, to a city park in the desert, to a sandy beach on the west coast, they will walk in on a leash, fly in on a harness, and slither in their cages.  Barking, mewing, bleating, mooing, whinnying and purring will join human voices in hymns of praise and worship.  World Animal Day is a day dedicated to honoring, blessing, and protecting animals all over the world.  </p>
<p>World Animal Day was founded at an ecologist&#8217;s convention in Florence, Italy in 1931 as a way of highlighting the plight of endangered species.  October 4th was chosen as World Animal Day because it is also the Feast of St. Francis of Assisi, a Catholic Church holiday which is often celebrated with an annual &#8220;blessing of the pets&#8221;.  Since then, it has grown to encompass all kinds of animal life and has been widely celebrated around the world.  Churches and synagogues in many faiths traditions have adopted &#8220;Pet Blessing Day&#8221; or &#8220;World Animal Day&#8221; in increasing numbers every year.  </p>
<p>The Interfaith Association of Animal Chaplains prepares for World Animal Day by referring its members and visitors to the official World Animal Day website.  The site provides ideas and resources to individuals, families, community groups and congregations everywhere.  People can post their pledge for volunteering at a World Animal Day event.  In addition to blessing pets, volunteers will work at animal shelters, zoos, rescues, and other nonprofit organizations.  Dogs will be walked, cats will be brushed, horses will be groomed, and fish will benefit from freshly cleaned tanks.  Donations will be given to animal welfare agencies, and pets will be adopted.  School children will collect pet food to be donated to charities, and bake sales and car washes will be held as fundraising events.  Veterinary clinics will hold free spay and neuter days, or may offer to vaccinate pets at no charge.  All over the world, on the very same day, the well-being of animals will be on the minds of millions of people.</p>
<p>Interfaith Chaplain Nancy Cronk feels a day honoring animals is very important at a time when the headlines speak of animal cruelty such as athlete Michael Vick&#8217;s alleged ties to illegal dog fighting.  Animal Chaplains would like everyone to know that every major faith endorses the responsible stewardship of the earth and all of its creatures.  &#8220;Deliberate harming of animals is in direct opposition to teachings in all of the major world faiths.  Caring for animals is our global spiritual responsibility.  If we can teach this ethic to all of our children, animal abuse and suffering will someday become a distant memory&#8221;.  </p>
<p>To find out how to get involved on World Animal Day, go to <a href="http://www.WorldAnimalDay.org.uk." rel="nofollow">www.WorldAnimalDay.org.uk.</a> To find out more about Animal Chaplains, go to <a href="http://www.AnimalChaplains.com." rel="nofollow">www.AnimalChaplains.com.</a> </p>
<p>(This article may be reprinted.)</p>
<p>Nancy J. Cronk<br />
Founder, Chair and Chaplain<br />
Interfaith Association of Animal Chaplains<br />
<a href="http://www.AnimalChaplains.com" rel="nofollow">www.AnimalChaplains.com</a><br />
Email: <a href="mailto:AnimalClergy@aol.com">AnimalClergy@aol.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: keciacat</title>
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		<author>keciacat</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would LOVE to get Cesar Milan's take on this.  Would be interesting since he thinks most dogs are salvageable.  Has he made a statement anywhere that you know of?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would LOVE to get Cesar Milan&#8217;s take on this.  Would be interesting since he thinks most dogs are salvageable.  Has he made a statement anywhere that you know of?</p>
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		<title>By: straybaby</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49466</link>
		<author>straybaby</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The judge ordered the Marshals Service to use â€œwhatever means appropriate to protect and maintainâ€ the dogs. It is uncertain what the U.S. Marshals Service plans to do with the dogs."

sounds like the dogs may get evaluated. so i guess the dogs have been claimed now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The judge ordered the Marshals Service to use â€œwhatever means appropriate to protect and maintainâ€ the dogs. It is uncertain what the U.S. Marshals Service plans to do with the dogs.&#8221;</p>
<p>sounds like the dogs may get evaluated. so i guess the dogs have been claimed now.</p>
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		<title>By: EmilyS</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49436</link>
		<author>EmilyS</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49436</guid>
		<description>of course the dogs wouldn't go to dogfighters.. that's just plain stupid and cruel as another excuse to kill the victims.

They would be evaluated by any one of several highly experienced and reputable people/organizations like BadRap (there are others who have offered as well).  It's likely that many/most would not be judged suitable for rehoming.  But it's equally likely that some WOULD be.

Would you kill them all rather than see even one saved?

That's the final ironic cruelty  to these poor victims.

Especially considering some may be survivors of the toruture inflicted on those who wouldn't even fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of course the dogs wouldn&#8217;t go to dogfighters.. that&#8217;s just plain stupid and cruel as another excuse to kill the victims.</p>
<p>They would be evaluated by any one of several highly experienced and reputable people/organizations like BadRap (there are others who have offered as well).  It&#8217;s likely that many/most would not be judged suitable for rehoming.  But it&#8217;s equally likely that some WOULD be.</p>
<p>Would you kill them all rather than see even one saved?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the final ironic cruelty  to these poor victims.</p>
<p>Especially considering some may be survivors of the toruture inflicted on those who wouldn&#8217;t even fight.</p>
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		<title>By: jillpw</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49415</link>
		<author>jillpw</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49415</guid>
		<description>As AC said "And as for PETA, why on earth is an organization whose very mission denies the value of the pet-owner relationship being quoted as an authority on the rehabilitation capabilities of ANY domesticated species? Hello? Has simple common sense in journalism died? Thatâ€™s like asking the fox if the henhouse is secure! Argghhh!"

It is quite possible that the dogs can not be rehabilitated and that euthenasia is the best option.  BUT they should be evaluated by an animal behavior specialist.  Since when is PETA the authority on this issue?!  PETA favors of eliminating the pit bull breed entirely regardless of background or temperment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As AC said &#8220;And as for PETA, why on earth is an organization whose very mission denies the value of the pet-owner relationship being quoted as an authority on the rehabilitation capabilities of ANY domesticated species? Hello? Has simple common sense in journalism died? Thatâ€™s like asking the fox if the henhouse is secure! Argghhh!&#8221;</p>
<p>It is quite possible that the dogs can not be rehabilitated and that euthenasia is the best option.  BUT they should be evaluated by an animal behavior specialist.  Since when is PETA the authority on this issue?!  PETA favors of eliminating the pit bull breed entirely regardless of background or temperment.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefani</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49414</link>
		<author>Stefani</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49414</guid>
		<description>A good human being who just got into a bad situation?  Like, someone else wrote checks to buy those dogs?  Someone else electrocuted them, killed them?  He just got duped into attending some random fights on his own property? 

SPORT?????  

I don't really believe in sport hunting either (hunting for food is different) but at least all but probably the sickest of twisted sadist yahoos don't prolong the prey's death on purpose when they hunt.  These dogs are forced to fight to death or near death while dozens of morons cheer and place illegal bets. 

What IS WRONG with these athletes?  WHERE are their coaches?  If they can't be better people, if they must be so repugnant, then at least their coaches should tell them to SHUT UP!!!!!! Just shut their freakin mouths.  

I am actually shocked at how many idiots in the sports world are speaking in defense of this behavior.  I really can never engage in spectator sports again.  

Well, there is still soccer.  Have any soccer players said moronic things about this? 

Stefani
The Toonces Project
http://www.TheTooncesProject.com
"Is Your Pet Safe at the Vet?"

PS -- I hope they at least try to find the younger dogs that are rehabilitatable out of this group.  So very sad. 

We definitely have a population problem.  A HUMAN population problem.  Too many evil morons.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good human being who just got into a bad situation?  Like, someone else wrote checks to buy those dogs?  Someone else electrocuted them, killed them?  He just got duped into attending some random fights on his own property? </p>
<p>SPORT?????  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really believe in sport hunting either (hunting for food is different) but at least all but probably the sickest of twisted sadist yahoos don&#8217;t prolong the prey&#8217;s death on purpose when they hunt.  These dogs are forced to fight to death or near death while dozens of morons cheer and place illegal bets. </p>
<p>What IS WRONG with these athletes?  WHERE are their coaches?  If they can&#8217;t be better people, if they must be so repugnant, then at least their coaches should tell them to SHUT UP!!!!!! Just shut their freakin mouths.  </p>
<p>I am actually shocked at how many idiots in the sports world are speaking in defense of this behavior.  I really can never engage in spectator sports again.  </p>
<p>Well, there is still soccer.  Have any soccer players said moronic things about this? </p>
<p>Stefani<br />
The Toonces Project<br />
<a href="http://www.TheTooncesProject.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.TheTooncesProject.com</a><br />
&#8220;Is Your Pet Safe at the Vet?&#8221;</p>
<p>PS &#8212; I hope they at least try to find the younger dogs that are rehabilitatable out of this group.  So very sad. </p>
<p>We definitely have a population problem.  A HUMAN population problem.  Too many evil morons.</p>
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		<title>By: catmom5</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49410</link>
		<author>catmom5</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/dogs-in-vick-investigation-face-deadline-knicks-player-defends-vick-2431#comment-49410</guid>
		<description>ANIMAL FIGHTING IS NOT A SPORT!!!  It is a barbaric, intentional torture and abuse of animals for the "pleasure" and "entertainment" of amoral people.  I hope MV's dogs will be evaluated and the ones who can be rehabilitated will be, but for all others, I hope their death is gentle and humane and that at some point in time they know that not all humans are cruel monsters.  I believe the animals wait for us at the Rainbow Bridge, and I, for one, would be honored to add these dogs to my family there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANIMAL FIGHTING IS NOT A SPORT!!!  It is a barbaric, intentional torture and abuse of animals for the &#8220;pleasure&#8221; and &#8220;entertainment&#8221; of amoral people.  I hope MV&#8217;s dogs will be evaluated and the ones who can be rehabilitated will be, but for all others, I hope their death is gentle and humane and that at some point in time they know that not all humans are cruel monsters.  I believe the animals wait for us at the Rainbow Bridge, and I, for one, would be honored to add these dogs to my family there.</p>
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