Donovan McNabb And Deion Sanders Support Michael Vick

Mcnabb and Vick

Apparently, fellow athletes and friends of Michael Vick have not learned to keep their comments to themselves about Vick and his indictment on dogfighting conspiracy charges.

It started in May with Washington Redskin players, Clinton Portis and Chris Samuels. Portis and Samuels defended Michael Vick and ridiculed the fact that dogfighting is a crime. After this, both players apologized for their comments. Portis said that he didn’t think people would get offended, and he realizes now that “some people are crazy over their pets”.

Now, Donovan McNabb, the Philadelphia Eagles quarterback, is speaking out and showing his support for Vick. On Tuesday, he said this at Lehigh University:

“I’m a supporter of Vick,” McNabb said. “That’s because I’m a good friend of his and also we’re guys that obviously compete to win the Super Bowl. Now, I don’t know exactly what happened in that situation, and I think for all of us that have read over the stuff that was over the Internet, the report, you look at it as kind of like, ‘Wow, you’ve got your so-called friends and family members turning their back on you now to make their situation better.’ They’re throwing you under the bus so that they can clean their name. That’s unfortunate. That goes to show, I always have a saying that I’ve always lived by: If you can’t trust family, who can you trust? It’s an unfortunate situation, and I just hope everything works out well for him where he can get back out on the field.”

On the other hand, there are a few athletes that have spoken up against Vick and his alleged involvement.

From ProFootball Talk:

Former NFL quarterback Jim Kelly, a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, has spoken out about Falcons quarterback Mike Vick and his current legal entanglement.

Kelly, like Vick, owns a home in Surry County, Virginia. Kelly, like Vick, doesn’t live at the property. But Kelly doesn’t buy the notion that Vick wasn’t aware of the activities occurring on his land.

“I know what goes on at my house, even though I’m not there,” Kelly told the Dunkirk (N.Y.) Observer. “I’d have to call ‘BS’ on that one.

“If he didn’t know what was going on at his home,” Kelly said, “the way I look at it, he’s lying.”

From USA Today:

Hall of Famer Gale Sayers is disheartened and disgusted by brutal details of dogfighting listed in the federal indictment charging Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick and three others with operating a multistate ring.

“If he did it, why?” Sayers asks. “If it’s true, I feel very, very sorry for Michael. It’s too bad.

“Why does he need to train dogs and fight them? Hopefully it’s not true. Still, it appears he was in that circle. And if he was in that circle, he should be punished.”

And then there is Deion Sanders. He played for the NFL and Major League Baseball. In July, he wrote an op-ed piece about Michael Vick. And well… let’s just say it’s quite interesting to say the least.

If you don’t want to read his whole commentary, here is one of his major points (if you can call it a point):

“I believe Vick had a passion for dogfighting. I know many athletes who share his passion. The allure is the intensity and the challenge of a dog fighting to the death. It’s like ultimate fighting, but the dog doesn’t tap out when he knows he can’t win.

It reminds me of when I wore a lot of jewelry back in the day because I always wanted to have the biggest chain or the biggest, baddest car. It gives you status.”

Deion, let’s get this straight. You are saying that Vick participated in dogfighting and he did it because he loved dogfighting. Apparently, you are clarifying that you think he committed a crime. It’s a shame Vick didn’t hire you as his attorney.

So, you know other athletes that share this passion for dogfighting and participate in this crime. Deion, dogfighting is a felony. Perhaps you would like to share which other athletes you know that are participating in this illegal activity.

Dogfighting is not similar to you wearing “bling bling” jewelry.

Here is Deion Sanders’ op-ed piece:

From The News Press:

I would’ve never thought Mike Vick, one of the NFL’s most exciting players — the man who makes the network execs smile every time he plays — would ever be indicted for crimes against man’s best friend.

The potential impact could be devastating.

He could lose millions worth of endorsements. Nike has already suspended the release of his new shoe. He could lose millions he was supposed to get from the Atlanta Falcons, if the club decides to cut him. That’s unlikely, but it could happen if he’s convicted or makes a plea arrangement.

Or his reputation might wind up so stained that he’s never forgiven in the court of public opinion. That would be too bad for the 27-year-old superstar.

This is all the result of perspective.

What a dog means to Vick might be a lot different than what he means to you or I. Hold on, don’t start shaking your head just yet. Listen to me.

Some people kiss their dogs on the mouth. Some people let their dogs eat from their plate. Some people dress their dogs in suits more expensive than mine, if you can believe that.

And some people enjoy proving they have the biggest, toughest dog on the street. You’re probably not going to believe this, but I bet Vick loves the dogs that were the biggest and the baddest. Maybe, he identified with them in some way.

You can still choose to condemn him, but I’m trying to take you inside his mind so you can understand where he might be coming from.

[…]

Why are we indicting him? Was he the ringleader? Is he the big fish? Or is there someone else? The fights allegedly occurred at a property that he purchased for a family member. They apparently found carcasses on the property, but I must ask you again, is he the ringleader?

[…]

The only thing I can gather from this situation is that we’re using Vick.

Was he wrong? Absolutely. Was he stupid? Can’t argue with that. Was he immature? No doubt. But is he the ringleader? I just can’t see it.

I believe Vick had a passion for dogfighting. I know many athletes who share his passion. [emphasis ours] The allure is the intensity and the challenge of a dog fighting to the death. It’s like ultimate fighting, but the dog doesn’t tap out when he knows he can’t win.

If someone can translate this op-ed piece for us in the comments we’d appreciate it.

(Thanks Menusux)

38 Responses to “Donovan McNabb And Deion Sanders Support Michael Vick”

  1. Gayle Phillips says:

    I think Deion needs to pull his head out of his southernmost nether end and get with the fact that dog fighting is a felony, is cruel in the extreme, and is not considered acceptable behavior by at least most of the USA’s population. If he can’t pull his head out of that nether region then I suggest he install a window in his belly so he can see where he’s going and not blunder into messy, self created press releases. If Vick was complicite in this outrage who cares “where he might be coming from”? He’s a criminal of the lowest form, using an innocent animal for his sick, twisted pleasure, and should be prosecuted as such.

  2. Elliot M. says:

    The fact is, these guys who are defending Vick have ths same background as him….they are uneducated hoods from the lowest depths of the ghetto. In ghetto culture, pets have no value whatsoever. It is unfortunate that society idolizes athletes like these…they got to where they are through brute strength, but they are completely lacking in culture, sophistication, intelligence, character, and moral caliber. In their ghetto culture, “bling bling”, beating women, criminality, time spent in prison, cruelty to animals are all considered status symbols and a measure of manhood. The problem is society elevating these criminals to hero status, allowing them to be role models to youth, and paying them millions of dollars. The money doesn’t change their criminal behavior, it just gives them the opportunity to commit their crimes on a larger scale. The ghetto culture is a scourge on our society. I hope Vick ends up an outcast and in jail, where a criminal like him belongs. Deion Sanders is proof that you can take the hood out of the ghetto, but you can’t take the ghetto out of the hood.

  3. Gindy says:

    Old Neon Deion better watch his southern most regions or some dog loving folks are going to get a judge to issue a subpeona to tell all he knows. An admission like that is just ASKING for trouble.
    Anyone who mistreats anything less able to defend themselves is lower than pond scum. That includes child molesters, rapists, elderly abusers and animal abusers.

  4. Debra says:

    So, let me get this straight. According to Deion, if Vick wasn’t the “ringleader,” he shouldn’t be punished?

    And Vick loves the dogs that are the biggest and the baddest. He loves them, not in the kiss them on the mouth, let them eat from your plate kind of way, but in the my dog’s badder than your dog, and if he’s not, he’s dead kind of way?

    Sick, sick, sick. Not just Vick, but Deion, too.

  5. catmom5 says:

    So the pros circle the wagons to protect one of their own. It’s just unbelievable to me that Sanders could justify MV’s actions as caring about his dogs. If you care about, love, value someone or something then you nurture, protect and cherish, not fight it to the death. Sounds to me like some little egos need money, “status”, attention to be okay. Reminds me of five year olds on the playground yelling “My dad’s bigger than your dad!” kind of behavior. I hope they go after anyone who claims to know the ins of pro sports animal fighting and nail the whole lot of them! In addition, I would hope those who are in charge of pro sports will clean up their own house ~ unless they, too, are involved!
    In ultimate fighting the humans have the choice to fight or not. The dogs don’t!
    This is torture, cruelty, abuse and illegal. End of story!

  6. Mike says:

    McNabb is basically saying that he is supporting Vick as a friend and he thinks Vick is innocent. He is not making excuses for what Vick is accused of. He is just saying he doesn’t think Vick did it.

    That’s reasonable. But I expect that a court will find that Vick is guilty.

    Sanders, on the other hand, …. What he wrote is so stupid on so many levels.

  7. Debra says:

    The mouth runs and stupidity comes out.

  8. chris says:

    Deion Sanders is an ASS! Go buy a diamond big enough to shove in your mouth so we dont have to hear your BS Deion.

  9. Stefani says:

    The following quote really shocks and sickens me . . .

    “I believe Vick had a passion for dogfighting. I know many athletes who share his passion. The allure is the intensity and the challenge of a dog fighting to the death. It’s like ultimate fighting, but the dog doesn’t tap out when he knows he can’t win.

    It reminds me of when I wore a lot of jewelry back in the day because I always wanted to have the biggest chain or the biggest, baddest car. It gives you status.”

    That just leaves me speechless, and frankly, makes me wonder if the sport of football isn’t doing things to these guys brains that turn them into brutes.

    I have always loved watching football games, but I don’t think I will ever be able to watch another game without associating it with cruelty. I think my armchair quarterback days are over.

    Stefani
    The Toonces Project
    http://www.TheTooncesProject.com
    “Is Your Pet Save at the Vet?”

  10. nora says:

    These guys were torturing and murdering animals (mainly dogs and any unfortunate bait animals that fell into the mess) and that is end of story. They are common murderers and they got some sort of thrill from that???!!!! They deserve to FRY! I cannot put into words the rage that this situation continues to brew!

  11. Jenny Bark says:

    I posted about this on another thred here I think last week. It was on CNN or ABC. I have tv on all the time but listen to it like a radio while I do other things. A football player was saying the same thing & didn’t see anything wrong with dogfighting or Vic. He said he know other players that had dogs that fight & had kennels too. He would NOT give their names and was asked. When I got to the tv his name was off the screen and I don’t know one player from another. I bet it was him though because it was the same sick BS.

  12. 2CatMom says:

    All I can say about Sanders is just when you think you’ve met the stupidest person alive, someone comes and raises the bar.

  13. Utahreb says:

    Since Sanders says he knows other athletes who are into dog fighting, he should be subpoenaed and forced to name names. If he does not, then a contempt of court charge should be brought against him and he should be thrown in jail.

    These so-called athletes are nothing but criminals and enjoy seeing animals die. I, too, will not be watching pro football this Fall. It would make me wonder which ones of these multi-million dollar “heroes” are so insecure that they have to use animals to get their “macho” image.

  14. pavlovscat says:

    I was born & raised in the deep south, and Sander’s comments remind me of an old, true story. I was with a friend eating breakfast at Shoney’s where a table of young men were seated a couple booths away. They were loudly telling stories & laughing heartily. One man told the story of how he was shot in his rear end by a cop as he was climbing over a fence to escape being arrested. The reactions were loud and lively with lots of laughter.

    When a culture thinks that getting shot while escaping arrest is breakfast table humor, how can anyone be surprised when people from the same type of culture can’t understand why dogfighting is a crime? Obviously, there is pride & status attached to breaking the law…especially when you get away with it. It doesn’t matter whether it’s dogfighting, drugs, abuse, theft or any other illegal activity. When people are brought up thinking this way, it should be no surprise when they continue their criminal activities from the vantage point of high dollar athletic contracts which give them a sence of invulnerability. I only hope that Mr. Goodell and other sports leaders stand firm and let these atheletes know that breaking the law will not be tolerated, no matter what the crime.

    The only place for people like this is in jail where they cannot threaten others. You cannot rehabilitate a person who refuses to admit that their actions are criminal. Until the elements of society that portray breaking the law in whatever fashion as glamorous and manly are controlled, there will continue to be status and retaliation crimes of all sorts. I do not pretend to know the solution, but I know we need to work towards finding one to protect those who need it.

  15. Furbabies says:

    It’s time the public took a stand against this ghetto behavior. Stop supporting teams and companies that encourage people like Sanders, Vick and McNabb. They are not and never should have been idols for America’s youth. You reap what you sow. Continue idolizing thugs and what you get in return is a whole new generation of thugs. This has to stop!

  16. Sky Eyes Woman says:

    I said this in the comments section of another article, and I’ll say it again. It’s waaaaay past time for the pro sports leagues to start putting morals clauses in their contracts with players, just like the ones movie studios used to put in actors’ contracts years ago.

    If these guys knew right from the git-go that they’d lose their overinflated multi-million dollar contracts for using drugs, murdering their pregnant girlfriends and dogfighting they’d clean up their act pronto.

  17. Gayle Phillips says:

    Well here I am again on this post. This time in response to pavlovscat and Sky Eyes Woman. I enjoyed both of your posts and agree entirely with you. After 15 years in law enforcement I think I know at least part of the answer to the dilema. Number one is the old morals clause of the big boom Hollywood days that Sky Eyes Woman mentioned. It is meeting out APPROPRIATE justice within the league. If the morals clause is broken, it’s an immediate boot out of the league and out of your cushy spot and your multi-millions. And you will need those millions to defend yourself in court. THEN, if guilty, you will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I am so sickened and disgusted with celebrities being slapped on the hand with “special treatment” I get angry just thinking about it. If all these testosterone, (no offense GENTLE MEN)steroid laden knuckle draggers knew they would go to prison for the max, without exception, perhaps they would think twice. We could only hope.

  18. 3FURS says:

    I agree with Sky Eyes Woman. If the team owners won’t do that, then the fans can react. All pet lovers and all normal human beings, should boycott the NFL. Less fans, less merchandise sold, less money for the league, less money to give to players, less crime, or at least less money to hire slick lawyers. Spread the word to your friends, kids, Grand-kids, everyone you know. When little Johonny asks for a sweater or sneakers like so and so wears, tell him that that person agrees with torturing and killing animals for fun and enjoyment. Innocent animals like the family pet. I think he will change his mind. Money talks loudly!! to these people. The general puplic have to realize that it is they who can change what is not right.

  19. Katie says:

    I agree with you all. And, I think the Feds should call in a few more of the NFL players and find out just how many are involved - and send them all to jail.

    It is so sickening to hear them all say how proud they are of what they do in their free time and how they get such a “high” from watching animals kill one another. Makes one wonder what else gives them a high.

    It is so sad, knowing young people look up to these men and want to be like them. The name of the game is win at all costs. A very sorry state for this world.

    Katie

  20. 3FURS says:

    Without YOUR money, they are nothing. I was never a big sports fan, except for hockey on occasion, but I for one will never buy any menchandise associated with the NFL for my Grand-kids, and I will explain why.

  21. straybaby says:

    there is a “morals clause”. it’s a code of conduct and the new commissioner seems to be using it. a few players are suspended pending their court hearings etc AND they need to petition to be able to come back. right now they have hired a team of investigators to follow up on what the feds have and then they will be handing down their decision. they have told him not to show up until then. they need to work under *presumed innocent* of the alleged crime while finding the player guilty of the code of conduct. the multi-million dollar contracts for apparel etc are under the same sort of code i believe. i’m not saying the league has no part in this, but ALL of the players KNOW the score when coming in and the new commish made it clear he wanted none of this crap going on. the problem lies with the players mainly and those that brought them up before they hit the leagues and thought they were untouchable. and that includes their high school and college experiences. the general lack of respect and inflated egos seem to be a bigger problem these days, but i don’t think the pro leagues should shoulder the blame for some of these a-holes. there are a LOT of good sports role models out there, so something IS going right, it just needs to be respected more. and i think the public is getting very vocal about these issues, which is good. adds some more teeth to the rules when we won’t stand for it either.

    Gayle, i agree on the slap on the wrist crap, but remember these are the feds (not local yahoos). i’m wondering what Vick has to plea bargain with if it comes to that . . . honestly, if he turns over info to bust up more fighting situations, maybe a bit lighter sentence would be worth it. otherwise, i think he’s in deep serious trouble with jail time.

    for anyone doubting the good role models, check out the recent MLB and NFL hall of fame dudes :) i grew up watching sports and still stay actively involved in following teams and players. and i will continue. i will also continue to be disappointed in the players that abuse their positions and act like asses and worse, as many kids will also. it really screws up sports and in many cases, sports is a way to college for many kids who will never go pro and for ones that do (and don’t), they end up having decent lives and living in a way i’m sure all of us could agree with. productive and respectable.

  22. straybaby says:

    kinda OT and not about pets, but we mustn’t forget our upstanding politicians when it comes to role models! Just heard the Allen *excuse* on CNN! OY!!!!!!!!! WTF?!

    *goes and hides head in the sand*

  23. Donna Stevens says:

    This is not a PC comment and I will not apologize for it, I tell it like it is and if you can’t deal with it, that’s your problem. Dogfighting is a Negro and white trash hobby. It’s a part of their culture. You know rapist and child molesters don’t think they did anything wrong either. They are ALL as sick and depraved as they come. !!!!!!!!!

  24. elizabeth says:

    On a much more positive note, two really important ex NFL greats from an earlier era have separately come out publicly against dog fighting and the culture and poor choices that seems to define Vick and some others of his ilk. They are Eric Dickerson and Gayle Sayres—classy gentlemen—great athletes—- and also willing to tell it like it is.

  25. Gayle Phillips says:

    Straybaby, you’re right about the feds in a general way but I’ve seen them actually drop nine tenths of a persons crimes just for a deal making opportunity. I would be willing to bet the farm that if Neon Deion is involved in dog fighting personally, (and we have no proof of that) he’d roll his fellow players over in a heartbeat for a deal. With the names and information he supposedly has one has to wonder how far his smoke is from the fire.

  26. Doug says:

    Deion works for one the broadcst networks, football commentator,really big mouth, bling mouth, no brians, maybe they should think about firing this jerk.
    Lets find out where he works, talk to their sponsers. Free speech dose not protect those who brag about friends that committed felonies.

  27. straybaby says:

    Doug, it’s either the CBS or Fox Pre-Game show.

  28. pavlovscat says:

    I agree that we should use our collective buying power to put out the message that affliations with animal abusers are not profitable. Money often speaks the loudest. Don’t buy any merchandise from companies that support criminals. Do make an effort to buy from the companies who do sever ties with questionable stars.

    However, I don’t feel that the entire NFL is a valid target yet. Many past & present players love animals as much as any of us and are disgusted by dogfighting. If Vick is convicted & ever plays again, I will then give up watching football. The crimes of NFL players are finally being addressed. I say give them a little time to prove they are serious about cleaning up the league before you boycott.

    Doug is right. Email, snail mail or call networks who employ pro-dogfighting personnel and thier sponsors. Tell them you do not support their relationships with these people. If enough people complain and stop watching these networks and stop buying advertised products, then maybe the sponsors will step in and stop paying all the big advertising dollars. When money speaks, the media will have to listen.

  29. CC says:

    I tell you what! You people have got to be kidding me. You let a man take your love ones over to another country and get them killed over some freaking OIL and not say one word about it, but a man does some stupid bonehead stuff like fighting dogs and you want to crucify him. Tell me, What is more serious to you. You by China made clothes, shoes, and just about everything you can think of everyday but no one is saying anything about how they are literally killing those people over there in those sweat shops. Get for real and get over it. I love animals just like the next person but there is a danm war going on and we are vunerable to attack and all we can talk about is some damn dogs. Roger Godell is a [EDITED BY ADMIN] because he won’t stick behind a player til proven guilty. Mike Vick sell out more stadiums than anybody and yes the NFL is going to suffer. Dion is right, why is he being idicted cause some broke folks decide they don’t want to go to jail. Now, Honestly tell me how Vick had that much time on his hand to be hanging around in Virginia like they say he was. Oh yeah for those of you who are racist, the really big dog fighting operations are ran by some Rich White Guys. Heard Me

  30. Traci says:

    CC…..what? “Mike Vick sell out more stadiums than anybody and yes, the NFL is going to suffer.” Are you kidding? No part of that statement is true.

    I do however like your comments on the attention this is getting when there is so much worse going on in the world.

    Don’t get me wrong….I think we should have already taken Vick out and shot him through the head with a bullet….guilty by association. (I’m from Texas and proud of it.) I used to like Vick but then, when he flipped off his fans and now….this…..no excuse. No reason to have him around.

    I’m also a big believer in punishments being deterrents. (Can you tell?) I bet if he were already dead….the next big time football player that was approached to dog fighting would “just say no”.

    I do wish people would get this excited about all the other stuff going on in the world though. If only all the other wrong doers were so famous.

    Can’t we all just get along?

  31. bxlife says:

    Really dog fighting is so bad. Give me a break, how bout we go deer hunting, bear hunting, duck hunting, rabbit hunting or lets just hunt the people who kill those animals. Its all culture maybe where Vick comes from thats his culture and killing poor innocent deers is not. I know rooster fighting is my countries culture and I would never kill dogs, deers, bears and so what thats my culture. We need to really get a grip on things.

  32. Lora says:

    I support him. I think hes a good guy who made some BAD choices and got caught up in the wrong things. He will serve his time that the legal system gives him. But he also has done good also. he gives back to the community, charities and helps young kids. This doesnt excuse his behavior but we have all made mistakes and we learn from them. But you can not label him like a common criminal. it is in NO way the same. Let him serve his time and come back and redeem himself, look foward to seeing him play in the future. ps I also have 3 dogs 1 shitz tsu 1 poodle and yes 1 Pit bull Lora from colorado

  33. Travis S. says:

    Quick translation of Deion’s comments:

    DIARRHEA OF THE MOUTH….. from a has been whose own feelings of self worth far outweigh the actual.

    Thank God we have some current and former NFL players who are educated above street level.

    Hopefully we won’t see Michael Vick or Deion on a playing field or in the commentator’s booth any time soon.

  34. Samuel Garcia says:

    This is all ridiculous… He’s a man and they were dogs. You are crucifying a man for vicious mutts that otherwise would be killing young children. He did not fight cute little puppies. He fought the vicious beasts. The only reason they went after him is because of his name. He got a raw deal. Beore you start saying that he is the scum of the Earth and that he came from a ghetto uncivilized manner, remember that he made something of himself and gave life to a dead franchise. He’s an amazing football player and the fact that he saw a few dog fights his friends set up doesn’t mean we should lynch him. Never put a dog before man.

  35. candy says:

    i think deion is right. you have the UFC were you beat the crap out of someone till they tapout but yet you cant fight a dog. thats just stupid. its a felony to fight a dog so why shouldnt it be a felony to fight on national t.v dont make no since. you have ownership over your dog you have the right to fight your dog or not thats your property. i have a pit bull of my own. do i fight him? no. but i do want him to be the biggest badest dog on the streets. i think this whole dog fighting thing has gone way to far. its an animal not a human. if you cant fight a dog then why should we be able to kill
    a deer or anthing to that matter. the dog is going to die sometime. i think its up to you and what you do with your dog.

  36. Vegitarian joe says:

    The entire country needs to calm down about this and let micheal vick go. Does anyone know how they kill cows and pigs for those bacon cheese burgers we love so much? They electrocute them! Just because he killed some dogs, that doesn’t make him a monster. I killed a cat just last week. It was an accident. It was under the car and got smashed. I didn’t know it was there and yet, i didn’t care cause it was JUST A CAT. I hit a deer on the way to work and the sheriff asked me for the meat. So why should he be imprisoned because he did what all people did to animals every day of their existence. Then animal rights groups want to talk about animal cruelty, but global warming is steadily increasing because these stupid vegetarians are eating all the plants which purify our atmosphere and trying to save the cows that are polluting our air. Cows produce methane gas which pollutes the atmosphere causing the ozone to become depleted! What are u doing to stop global warming?

    I’m Eating The Cows.

  37. Anonymous says:

    Why are white people mad at Michael Vick. OJ cheer fpr football games and call you nigger behind and around their back. Whites have mistreated blacks for years look at slavery slavery slavery. We cannot even trace our history get a life white people. We have countries that hate our guts and will kill us. But whites smile in their face for that dollar dollar bill.

  38. Esco 33 says:

    I forgot to add - all people think about nowadays is $$$$$$$$$ and how bad business would be if they let Vick on the field again - this is where NFL should come in and try and defend him - but I really dont think they have the balls to do that because they would loose alot of money - NFL is full of shit


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