Comments on: Ethics Professor Discusses Dog Fighting And Hunting http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637 Essential news for cats, dogs and pet owners. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 05:20:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Casey http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-239163 Casey Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:06:40 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-239163 You guys are all stupid. Everyone(me too) is gonna keep eating meat and keep loving meat. Who cares how the animals are killed. Its the food chain. I saw a coyote kill a rabbit once(with his teeth) and it looked to be a very painful death but the coyote got his family something to eat. Thats pretty much what humans are doing with animals You guys are all stupid. Everyone(me too) is gonna keep eating meat and keep loving meat. Who cares how the animals are killed. Its the food chain. I saw a coyote kill a rabbit once(with his teeth) and it looked to be a very painful death but the coyote got his family something to eat. Thats pretty much what humans are doing with animals

]]> By: MilesandBen http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-55269 MilesandBen Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:08:33 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-55269 I have been meat-free since I was fourteen. While I had always felt that it was wrong to eat meat it was not until I watched a current events piece on factory farming in the eighth grade that I completely understood. The disconnect between consumers and the consumed is ever-widening and will not change until something even worse than Mad Cow and Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease emerges into the mass populace. Eat local, fee-range, organically raised livestock if you can't quit the meat habit. Otherwise, there are some great chicken substitutes out on the market now. Boca and Amy's do not use GMOs, Morningstar does. I have been meat-free since I was fourteen. While I had always felt that it was wrong to eat meat it was not until I watched a current events piece on factory farming in the eighth grade that I completely understood. The disconnect between consumers and the consumed is ever-widening and will not change until something even worse than Mad Cow and Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease emerges into the mass populace.

Eat local, fee-range, organically raised livestock if you can’t quit the meat habit. Otherwise, there are some great chicken substitutes out on the market now. Boca and Amy’s do not use GMOs, Morningstar does.

]]> By: Mary http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-54816 Mary Thu, 06 Sep 2007 03:44:47 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-54816 Now where the heck is Brad? This is exactly the point I made in the Idaho/Wyoming comments. Hunters are not cowards. It takes alot of bravery and skill to hunt. The problem is that there is such a disconnect between what we eat and where it comes from -- we do not have that connection to the Earth any more, and so we lose respect for the source out of ignorance and fear. It's little wonder we treat the Earth the way we do. There is no honor in Spam. My niece went to a farm on a school field trip, saw live chickens, and said to her mom "Isn't that funny, chickens have the same name as chicken nuggets?" She did not understand that chickens = nuggets. My sister didn't explain b/c she didn't want to upset her child. Now where the heck is Brad? This is exactly the point I made in the Idaho/Wyoming comments. Hunters are not cowards. It takes alot of bravery and skill to hunt.

The problem is that there is such a disconnect between what we eat and where it comes from — we do not have that connection to the Earth any more, and so we lose respect for the source out of ignorance and fear. It’s little wonder we treat the Earth the way we do. There is no honor in Spam.

My niece went to a farm on a school field trip, saw live chickens, and said to her mom “Isn’t that funny, chickens have the same name as chicken nuggets?” She did not understand that chickens = nuggets. My sister didn’t explain b/c she didn’t want to upset her child.

]]> By: Stefani http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-54485 Stefani Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:29:34 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-54485 As I have said before, I DO think that companion animals, by virtue of the fact that they have been bred by us to share our lives, deserve a special consideration under the law. And clearly, because we share our lives with primarily cats and dogs, our emotions over cruelty done to them are stronger than our emotions over cruelty to other animals. I am not saying that is ethically justifiable, just that it is a probable explanation. Having said that, I believe the average person could NOT inflict the cruelty on a chicken, pig, or cow that is routinely inflicted on them in factory farm situations. The people who do that I believe have deadened their souls in order to be able to do it. Most of us, if we had to confront the choice between doing to the animal what is done to them in the factory production system, and not eating meat, would probably not eat meat. We couldn't bear to do it. But we pay others to do it. I realize that is hypocritical. I have twice gone veggie, for periods as long as 2 years. Because I do love the taste of chicken, it's usually been chicken that has tempted me off. Since falling off the vegetarian wagon a few years ago, I have eaten only chicken and wild caught salmon and no other meats/flesh, but it does bother my conscience, because chickens suffer horribly in factory farming conditions, and I am not ignorant of that fact. Which, makes me a bigger hypocrite. Last night I saw a program on PBS called the natural history of the chicken. It had me in tears. Both at the beauty of the chickens living in happy situations, and at the horrible treatment of the mass produced chickens. It was a FABULOUS hour of TV, I highly recommend it. (http://www.shoppbs.org/product/index.jsp?productId=1428832) So far today, no chicken for me. We will see how long I make it this time. I will take it a day at a time. I don't think it's wrong to kill animals for food. But I DO think it is wrong how we raise them and mass-produce them, how we make them live before we kill them. That suffering is on a whole other level than the suffering of a chicken on a family farm who has lived in the sun and then one day just gets its head chopped off -- like they used to do when my mom was a kid. To underwrite the cruelty of factory farming IS hypocritical for me and others who love animals. I do realize that. It's been 24 hours since my last bite of chicken. Can I get a chip for that? Stefani The Toonces Project http://www.TheTooncesProject.com "Is Your Pet Safe at the Vet?" As I have said before, I DO think that companion animals, by virtue of the fact that they have been bred by us to share our lives, deserve a special consideration under the law. And clearly, because we share our lives with primarily cats and dogs, our emotions over cruelty done to them are stronger than our emotions over cruelty to other animals. I am not saying that is ethically justifiable, just that it is a probable explanation.

Having said that, I believe the average person could NOT inflict the cruelty on a chicken, pig, or cow that is routinely inflicted on them in factory farm situations. The people who do that I believe have deadened their souls in order to be able to do it. Most of us, if we had to confront the choice between doing to the animal what is done to them in the factory production system, and not eating meat, would probably not eat meat. We couldn’t bear to do it. But we pay others to do it. I realize that is hypocritical.

I have twice gone veggie, for periods as long as 2 years. Because I do love the taste of chicken, it’s usually been chicken that has tempted me off. Since falling off the vegetarian wagon a few years ago, I have eaten only chicken and wild caught salmon and no other meats/flesh, but it does bother my conscience, because chickens suffer horribly in factory farming conditions, and I am not ignorant of that fact. Which, makes me a bigger hypocrite.

Last night I saw a program on PBS called the natural history of the chicken. It had me in tears. Both at the beauty of the chickens living in happy situations, and at the horrible treatment of the mass produced chickens. It was a FABULOUS hour of TV, I highly recommend it. (http://www.shoppbs.org/product/index.jsp?productId=1428832)

So far today, no chicken for me. We will see how long I make it this time. I will take it a day at a time.

I don’t think it’s wrong to kill animals for food. But I DO think it is wrong how we raise them and mass-produce them, how we make them live before we kill them. That suffering is on a whole other level than the suffering of a chicken on a family farm who has lived in the sun and then one day just gets its head chopped off — like they used to do when my mom was a kid.

To underwrite the cruelty of factory farming IS hypocritical for me and others who love animals. I do realize that.

It’s been 24 hours since my last bite of chicken. Can I get a chip for that?

Stefani
The Toonces Project
http://www.TheTooncesProject.com
“Is Your Pet Safe at the Vet?”

]]> By: Gindy http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-54449 Gindy Wed, 05 Sep 2007 16:26:31 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-54449 Where I live you can meet your meat if you wish. Sure, just drive out to the farm, pick the cow or chicken you want, and next week it will be delivered to your door. Wrapped in plastic. I am a vegetarian so this does not apply to me, but Bridgett is correct, there are plenty of alternatives to store bought, factory farm, garbage meat. You just have to think out side the box (grocery store) and do some homework. Where I live you can meet your meat if you wish. Sure, just drive out to the farm, pick the cow or chicken you want, and next week it will be delivered to your door. Wrapped in plastic.
I am a vegetarian so this does not apply to me, but Bridgett is correct, there are plenty of alternatives to store bought, factory farm, garbage meat. You just have to think out side the box (grocery store) and do some homework.

]]> By: Bridgett http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-54411 Bridgett Wed, 05 Sep 2007 15:37:56 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-54411 If a person is a meat eater but is concerned about factory farming, check out local butcher shops or coops. The meat will either be labeled humanely raised and butchered or you can ask. If a person is a meat eater but is concerned about factory farming, check out local butcher shops or coops. The meat will either be labeled humanely raised and butchered or you can ask.

]]> By: Lynne http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-54355 Lynne Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:17:27 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-54355 I've long admired Peter Singer and agree with him. Meet your meat: http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming.asp I’ve long admired Peter Singer and agree with him. Meet your meat:
http://www.goveg.com/factoryFarming.asp

]]> By: catmom5 http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-54349 catmom5 Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:01:39 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-54349 I agree that we need to focus on cruelty to animals in all areas ~ and factory farming is horrendous and cruel. Yet how many people "want" to know where their meat comes from? Education into factory farming needs to be ramped up, but it is so disturbing that I'm guessing a lot of folks simply will not be willing to face the sad facts. With that said, just because not as many animals are hurt, killed or maimed during dog fighting (or other animal "blood sports") or "sport" hunting doesn't mean that we can just look the other way. I believe that we have to address the violence toward other living beings wherever it occurs. I agree that we need to focus on cruelty to animals in all areas ~ and factory farming is horrendous and cruel. Yet how many people “want” to know where their meat comes from? Education into factory farming needs to be ramped up, but it is so disturbing that I’m guessing a lot of folks simply will not be willing to face the sad facts.
With that said, just because not as many animals are hurt, killed or maimed during dog fighting (or other animal “blood sports”) or “sport” hunting doesn’t mean that we can just look the other way.
I believe that we have to address the violence toward other living beings wherever it occurs.

]]> By: Donna http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-54344 Donna Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:43:27 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/ethics-professor-discusses-dog-fighting-and-hunting-2637#comment-54344 Dog fighting ,hunting for sport and animals raised for food are all three heinous and barbaric. Violence does not make humans superior to any thing.If it violence one craves..............go for hand to fang combat with a tiger.Thrill of a very short life time,.....................for the human. Violence on all levels must stop. Dog fighting ,hunting for sport and animals raised for food are all three heinous and barbaric. Violence does not make humans superior to any thing.If it violence one craves…………..go for hand to fang combat with a tiger.Thrill of a very short life time,…………………for the human. Violence on all levels must stop.

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