FDA Melamine Safety Analysis Reveals Bakery Meal Contamination

FDA has released their safety analysis for human consumption of melamine — including scenarios that estimate human consumption of multiple sources.

But most surprisingly, it lists one sample source not mentioned before: bakery meal.

(UPDATE: Bakery meal is used for pets and was likely contaminated from tainted pet food being mixed into the batch.)

Bakery Meal Samples
As can be seen in Table A-2, to date, 27 samples of bakery meal thought to have been made with contaminated pet food have been collected and analyzed for all four compounds from four locations. Of those, 24 were negative for melamine. The three positive samples were from two different locations and contained concentrations of melamine from 10.6 to 59.6 ppm. Cyanuric acid was not detected in 15 of the samples, and ranged from 1.8 to 146.3 ppm in the other 12 samples. Nine samples had detectable levels of ammeline (Range of 1.2 to 24.9 ppm) and the other 18 samples were negative. Ammelide was detected in one sample (20.1 ppm) and the other 26 samples were negative.

The report does not look into the reaction between melamine and cyanuric acid and only mentions it briefly.

The report also says “the highest exposure estimate for the worst case scenario… is 252 times lower than the [Tolerable Daily Intake].”

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  1. Debbie4747 says:

    Zoe Says:

    May 25th, 2007 at 6:23 pm
    Wilbur- Ellis has such an odd combination of products - pet food and plastics.
    ****
    But isn’t pet food really just plastics (melamine)????

    And by the way, here in Jersey Stop and Shop has some melamine plate sets on sale for just $9.99.

  2. ann says:

    Martin Try www.platinum performance.com. I have all my kids - cats, horse, and dog on them. The stuff is great!

  3. ann says:

    Martin Try www.platinumperformance.com. I have all my kids - cats, horse, and dog on them. The stuff is great!

  4. kellie says:

    You’re welcome Janc.
    I’m telling you i speak the truth.
    It’s how cow tipping got started. the humans would knock the cow over so THEY could consume the Krispy Kreme prey after poor ole Elsie stalked it all night.

    It’s a travesty, really…poor cows

    p.s. for the record recycled bakery meal and bakery base or mix are NOT THE SAME…the base for cake mixes is not what they are refferring to. if you read it , it says the salvaged pet food may have been added to the meal like it was added to other feeds for livestock.

  5. martin says:

    Thanks Ann!

  6. Zoe says:

    Debbie4747 Says:
    May 25th, 2007 at 8:27 pm
    But isn’t pet food really just plastics (melamine)????
    And by the way, here in Jersey Stop and Shop has some melamine plate sets on sale for just $9.99.

    Thanks Debbie but I think I’ll just make my own plates out of some kibble and water.

  7. Flamin says:

    kellie, china makes bakery meal I posted the link. usa bakers & companies add it to the basic mixes. It’s also used as an additive in animal feed.

    Zoe, “Remember that article where the Chinese companies said they put melamine in bakery goods such as cakes and also in the feed meals and glutens? They said it was common practice over there.”

    Yes I remember. I also questioned all the yeasts imported from China. it’s Also in the mixes, and just about everything else.

  8. deborah moulton says:

    If you have walked in the woods and happened upon a coyote or fox scat, and compared that neat, small package with what your dog just left in the middle of the trail ( to which I hope you took a stick or some other means of removal), you would realize there is something drastically wrong with all these supposedly terrific, balance foods we feed our dogs (and cats). A loose, stinky stool is not natural.
    We need to rethink how and what we feed our pets. The best thing we can do is to seek alternatives, even if we have to (gak!) give up some time to cook them healthy meals ourselves.
    The Pet Food Industry is not to be trusted. It shouldn’t take 2 1/2 months for everyone of us to figure that out. Our government agencies are not to be trusted, because they have been divested of the regulatory teeth needed to insure the saftey of our food supply, let alone tell us where it is from.

    “On May 13, 2002, President Bush signed into law the Farm Security and Rural Investment Act of 2002, more commonly known as the 2002 Farm Bill. One of its many initiatives requires country of origin labeling for beef, lamb, pork, fish, perishable agricultural commodities and peanuts. On January 27, 2004, President Bush signed Public Law 108-199 which delays the implementation of mandatory COOL for all covered commodities except wild and farm-raised fish and shellfish until September 30, 2006. On November 10, 2005, President Bush signed Public Law 109-97, which delays the implementation for all covered commodities except wild and farm-raised fish and shellfish until September 30, 2008. As described in the legislation, program implementation is the responsibility of USDA’s Agricultural Marketing Service.” from www.ams.usda.gov/cool

    That leaves us in charge, and outside of a few blogs, the information we need to make food decisions for ourselves and our pets is woefully lacking.
    I am ready for a revolution. I would dearly love to feed the current Administrative arm of our government a luncheon of “monkfish” containing terodotoxin, and served on a bed of Datura leaves ( The ethno-botanist Wade Davis theorized back in the 1980’s that the Haitian Voodun powder that created zombies was based primarily on Datura alkoloids and terodotoxin), served with a tasty sauce thickened by any glutein heavily laced with melamine & cyanureic acid, and finally a lovely dessert sweetened by diethylene glycol.

  9. kellie says:

    FLAMIN
    “(UPDATE: Bakery meal is used for pets and was likely contaminated from tainted pet food being mixed into the batch.)”

    what kind of cake mixes do you buy that add meat by products and rejected pet as common practice..

  10. kellie says:

    there have been other links as well stating that bakery meal is recycled baked goods and sweets, crackers and all…that is not the base for any cake mixes..this is a salvaged type of bakery meal..not for human consumption..its rendered products..

  11. Zoe says:

    It’s as if all the poor animals have become living garbage disposals.

  12. High Note says:

    Okay so I am going to repeat this.. China has BECOME THE WORLDS LEADING SUPPLIER OF MANY FOOD FLAVORINGS, VITAMINS, PRESERVATIVES!
    lOOK ON THE DOG FOOD LABELS AND YOU WILL SEE THAT THERE IS THIAMINE, RIBOLFAVIN, AND CHINA IS THE PROMINANT MAKER OF THESE AND THEY ARE ALSO IN A LOT OF OUR FOODS. CEREALS, ETC.
    THEY ALSO ARE THE PROMINANT MAKERS OF VANILLA FLAVORING, CITRIC ACID, VARITIES OF VITAMIN B AND THEY ARE A BIG SUPPLIER OF VITAMIN C TOO.
    I DO NOT KNOW FOR SURE BUT A LOT OF OUR VITAMINS MAY COME FROM CHINA TOO.
    NEXT TIME YOU EAT A HOSTESS TWINKY JUST KNOW THAT PROBABLY TWELVE OF THOSE INGREDIENTS IN IT PROBABLY COME FROM CHINA!
    REMEMBER!
    WHEN YOU SEE A LABEL ON FOOD THAT IF IT SAYS DISTRIBUTED BY THEN THEY DO NOT MAKE THE PRODUCT!
    ONLY IF IT SAYS MANUFACTURED BY DO THEY MAKE IT!
    IF IT SAYS MADE IN THE USA, WELL THIS ONLY MEAN THE TOTAL PRODUCT IS MADE HERE!
    THEY MAY GET THEIR PRESERVATIVES, VITAMINS, CITRIC ACID, THIAMINE, RIBOFLAVIN, FOLIC ACID FROM CHINA AND PUT INTO THEIR INGREDIENTS AND IT WILL STILL SAY MADE IN THE USA!!!!!! THE FINISHED PRODUCT IS MADE HERE.
    WE NEED TO GET THESE LABELS TO STATE THE TRUTH! WE NEED THEM TO SAY WHERE ELSE THE INGREDIENTS IN THEIR PRODUCTS COME FROM!
    TYSON AND MISSION CO. BOTH DO NOT WANT TO BUY FROM CHINA ANY MORE.
    BUT THEY MAY FIND THIS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO DO.
    TYSON USES THEM FOR THE FLOUR ADDITIVES AND SO DOES MISSION FOR THEIR FLOUR TORTILLA’S. NEITHER COMPANY WANTS TO DEAL WITH THEM ANY MORE BUT FINDING THE ADDITIVES FOR THEIR PRODUCTS MAY BE IMPOSSIBLE SINCE THERE IS SUCH A BIG DEMAND FOR THEM AND CHINA IS THE PROMINANT MAKER OF THEM.
    I AM SURE MANY COMPANIES ARE HAVING THIS SAME PROBLEM.
    THE VITAMINS IN OUR DOG FOODS FOR INSTANCE PROBABLY COMES FROM CHINA TOO! SO.. IT IS NOT ONLY WHEAT GLUTEN AND RICE PROTEIN THAT WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. JUST BECAUSE A DOG FOOD COMPANY SAYS THEY DO NOT USE THIS STUFF WELL HOW DO WE KNOW THAT ONE OF THE VITAMINS MAY NOT BE LACED WITH SOMETHING TOO?
    DO NOT FORGET THAT CHINA MADE BABY FORMULA THAT WAS MISSING NUTRIENTS AND IT KILLED 12 BABIES BECAUSE OF IT.
    WE DO NOT EVEN KNOW FOR SURE IF THE NUTRIENTS IN OUR DOG FOODS ARE REALLY NUTRIENTS ANY MORE.

  13. High Note says:

    EVERYONE YOU HAVE TO READ THE NEWS UPDATE (11:48 AM PACIFIC)
    ON THE FRONT PAGE OF ITCHMO AND SCROLLING ON DOWN.
    IT REALLY HAVE A LOT OF INFO ON CHINA. IT IS THE ONE THAT SAYS
    NPR covers rejected Chinese food imports..
    YOU ALL GOT TO READ THIS ONE! IT SAYS THINGS LIKE VITAMIN C-90 PERCENT MADE IN CHINA, WHY?
    WELL THE PRICE OF IT WAS $15 PER KILOGRAM IN 1995 AND TODAY THE PRICE IS $3.50 FROM CHINA.
    NO ONE COULD COMPETE WITH THAT SO MOST OF THE WESTERN PRODUCERS OF VITAMIN C SHUT DOWN.
    BUT THESE CHEAP PRICES ALSO LEAD TO CONTAMINATED MULTIVITAMINS THAT SHOWED UP ON THE SHELVES OF US RETAILERS THIS YEAR.
    ALSO VITAMIN A FROM CHINA CONTAMINATED WITH DANGEROUS BACTERIA NEARLY ENDED UP IN THE EUROPEAN BABY FOOD. SO GO TO THE LINK AND CLICK ON IT AND LEARN MORE…

  14. DMS says:

    IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE WHO CAN ANALYZE THIS REPORT FOR US ON A STEP BY STEP BASIS–WHAT IT MEANS, WHAT IT DOESN’T SAY, SHOULD CERTAIN DATA BE AVAILABLE THAT IS MISSING?

    First off, I see that under chemical synonyms, cryomazine breakdown products is listed. That may or may not speak to Dr. Fox’s theory.

    Is there any reason for the absence of analysis of beef and milk products? As of yesterdays blogs, I now realize that most US cattle eat cyanuric acid as a nonprotein nitrogen source called biuret, but would this melamine, cyanuric acid feed at these levels affect the milk and meat?

    Is there any evidence to support the statement that the formation of lattice crystals ,particularly between melamine and cyanuric acid takes place {only} at very high dose levels?

    I notice Guelph Lab Service referenced under Toxicology Profile. Didn’t Guelph also find aminopterin, which is not mentioned in the report.

    Are the melamine and analogues in the scenarios realistic? This I definitely need help with!!!!

    How do they account for the wide range of melamine and cyanuric acid levels in the pet food scrap: melamine: 9.4-1,952 ppm; cyanuric acid: 6.6-2180ppm. It seems very broad to me as a layperson.

    Is there a credible reason cyanuric acid is not analyzed in the urine of swine, Table A6? Location D has 5 positives, by is designated as not analyzed. Is cyanuric acid quantifiable? If it is, and it seems such a dangerous compound per the msds, why is it not quantified on their official report. It would also be helpful to compare it to the urine samples if it is excreted as such.

    As for no kidney pathology being noted in the swine analyzed under Melamine Excretion Over Time, if the swine were slaughtered while on the contaminated feed, would the meat levels be higher? How long do swine live as opposed to a person? How long were they fed the melamine contaminated food–2 weeks? Not to be confused with their Nephritis in table A5 which goes from jan to may. I would have to ask how hard they were looking in Jan-April. Does this really speak to the long term or even short term human health risks of consuming melamine and its related compounds? Anywhere? They haven’t done a lot of analysis with the cyanuric acid and none considering synergy. They say they do not even know if it is synergistic. Then is it really safe to stamp the meat for approval and release it as indistinguishable from uncontaminated meat to us?

    Table A-4 doesn’t even measure cyanuric acid in meat. Is there an assay available? I believe the FDA/Usda said there was not as of last week at the adulterated feed press conference. What can we make of that non-info?

    Has the FDA sampled grains intended for human consumption yet? This I really want to know, because the toxin transfer would be direct and undiluted and change the risk assessment drastically.

    I don’t know if I am missing the main point here. I am not a scientist. My husband is a pharmacist and we are going to look over this together tomorrow night. I would really love for a biochemist or someone of that nature to break this all down.

    I am still eating organic.

  15. YaYa says:

    Well my insominia is in full bloom and I ‘thought” I just might be hungry for a change; then I read THIS thread! Good Gawd! Blech :-þþþ

    I’m going to bed hungry I think. Maybe things will ’sound’ better in the morning? Just don’t pass me any Krisy Cremes! Eck!

  16. sandi says:

    I have forwarded to Lou Dobbs, never heard back.

    Also, is he not on WFAN, Mon and Tues, am now, and his regular stint on CNN Evenings.

    Sandi

  17. DMS says:

    I don’t see any analyzed eggs in this release. How do they know the level of contamination in eggs? Not sure why they lumped eggs into this study, there is no statistical mention at all.

  18. DMS says:

    I also saw in the lab notes that fat was removed from the meat tissue before analysis. Even though they say melamine is water soluble, shouldn’t the fat have been looked at for analysis. What about the other contaminants or combinations thereof, are they as water soluble. Perhaps there would have been an unexpected result. It does happen and many compounds accumulate in the fat.
    I also think they really let us down by not recalling the meat. Those animals were being fed the contaminated scrap when slaughtered– some hogs had a diet entirely made up of it. They were not taken off the feed, but loaded right up and slaughtered. There is no way to know what level of melamine and its related compounds may have been in their systems that I can see. There was such a wide range in the contamination level of the feed. What if a hog were being fed at the high end of the range of contamination a diet of 50-100% pet food scraps. Can one pull from those tables what that hog’s levels would have been. I can’t, but maybe someone else can.
    And for the record, my 4 children who weigh 55 lbs to 108 lbs eat as much as I do. Especially the younger ones who are really growing. They may actually eat more and really love chicken and eggs.

  19. JJ says:

    I would like to know how much propylene glycol (Anti-Freeze) is also put into this bakery meal or how much is in there before hand? What is the toxicity level of all this propylene glycol (Anti-Freeze)? How much is a cumulative effect in the pets and human bodies? Would anyone know of a list that would identify all the foods that propylene glycol (Anti-Freeze) is in and where to find a list? Also what companies with full knowledge that this is ANTI-FREEZE are buying it and from where to put it into their products? From Websters New Collegiate Dictionary of 1953 that was lo and behold Made In The USA what is propylene glycol you ask. It is: Chem. A sweet, colorless, viscous liquid, C3H8O2, made from petroleum and otherwise used as an antifreeze, germicide, solvent, etc. It Kills dogs who drink it remember that so why are they feeding it to our pets and ourselves?

  20. High Note says:

    I like what the lady said on pet connection about the FDA and their report. She said if this melamine runs through a chicken and a hog very fast then why did it get our animals sick?
    I to would like to know about the eggs. Did they find it in them too? If so then guess that chicken did not poop fast enough did he.
    I also have not heard a thing about turkeys. I wondered about them. I would think they would feed them about the same type of stuff as the chickens and of course they did not check them because they were only following the route that the Chem Nutra company gave them.. But since this has been going on for sometime then we do not know if other animals may have been affected too. and the eggs, and the cattle
    Turkeys and cattle have not been checked for melamin or cyanuric acid I am sure.
    And none of our food supply at the stores have been checked either. Since China supplies all of these preservatives and have put alot of american businesses out of business because of their lwo prices of nutrients and preservatives and all then it could very well be in our food too. Cereals, flour, torilla’s,
    This year lead was found in multivitamins on the shelves of U.S. retailers from China.
    Also this year a some vitamin A from China was contaminated with dangerous bacteria and nearly ended up in Buropean baby food.
    Where do you think the vitamins for most of the dog food comes from? China of course!
    China also is the prominant supplier of most vitamins especially vitamin C and vitamin B.
    So it is also possible that they may laced their vitamin with something else too and our pets could have malnutrition. We will never know..
    as for our food? that is a big question. most of it has not been checked.
    they are now checking our toothpaste. But what about all the vitamins in our cereal? no one checked them yet.
    No one was looking for melamin or cyanuric acid in our food when it was shipped in to this country. Not the food, but the supplements they put in the food. None of it was checked for this stuff. We do not know if we have been eating it too!

  21. DMS says:

    Is there an exact definition for “one magnitude higher: in the last paragraph of “Excretion of Melamine Over Time?” Is that a power of 10, or what? Why would they omit the info if they have it?

  22. JJ says:

    DMS and others who might want to add to their knowledge in the forums Superpup posted this information and I just printed the part about Interim Melamine and Analogues Safety/Risk Assessment you can find this at: http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/-dms/melamra.html According to what I read looks like melamine has been put into food and animals since 1995 or before. WTF is wrong with these people? They knew full well that this stuff is dangerous and yet what did they do - approve it for use. It should never, ever be in any food. Was it put in there on purpose? If so, how many of each species human and animal were they hoping it might do away with? Considering no one would connect it over a period of time, huh, people would just figure that the sickness they had or died from also their pets was just a common thing that happened. Don’t think so, not unless someone helped things along with this cumulative effect over a period of time. How can a hog excrete it or anyone if you are loaded up with it and then slaughtered? Never leaves the tissues, does it then? Then they serve it up as bacon, sausage, lunch meat, etc. with the added benefit of mela-plastic in your and your pets systems. Please do not heat any food in the micro in plastic as you will consume it that way too as it leaches into the food you are heating or cooking, micro popcorn - wow what a convenient way to get it direct into your system from it leaching off the bag the popcorn is cooked in - YUMMY hot popped poison for ya!

  23. pat says:

    jj, you might find this interesting, from the cdc web site:

    “CDC analyzed the most recent data from the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES). This report summarizes the results of that analysis, which determined that

    16.8% of the U.S. population aged >20 years had CKD (chronic kidney disease), according to 1999–2004 NHANES data,

    compared with 14.5% from the 1988–1994 NHANES, an increase of 15.9% based on crude estimates of prevalence.”

    i see that statistic as significant. here’s the link:

    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/previe.....5608a2.htm

  24. DMS says:

    JJ, I will try to get into the forums. I am new at this whole blogging thing, but have just been so freaked out since this whole thing started, I had to find a way to channel it. First I just read and researched, then I started commenting. I have never been to the forums. Wasn’t sure what theyare.
    My husband, who is a pharmacist, and I were looking over the safety ananlysis last night and he agrees that it still does not explain at all why the dogs and cats died. There is a lot of missing info and supposition. We looked up lots of stuff about cryomazine, which is sprayed on, genetically engineered into, and fed to just about anything foodlike. Cyanuric acid is regularly fed to cows as part of a mixture called biuret. Melamine, as you say, is in everything. It is kind of flabbergasting. Why? My husband calculated that our 30 lb dog would be able to eat 18 lbs of pet scraps a day and still be safe according to the swine info. OUr dog ate about 1 1/2 cups max and got sick in March. He was in pet hospital for 3 days. Our little guy, 17lbs, did not get as sick, only vomiting. I will get the specifics from my hubby and try to join the forum tonight. I will give you all his calculations for feedback of method.

    Still, always, organic.

  25. DMS says:

    Per my above post, my husband actually did his calculations using the dog toxicology info applying it to the most contaminated pet food scraps. Will post more later, either here or on the forum. Sorry for the misinfo, this is not my field, only a passion, and our health. So I am very concerned. Have to run.

  26. JJ says:

    Pat thx for that info. According to the stats the non-black hispanic men and people with Mexican heritage are at the greatest risk for kidney problems. Always thought about that as to why some people who were overweight/obese had kidney problems/diabetes and others did not. Now looks like the diet had a lot to do with it. The added chemical benefits in the food depending on part of country and what you could afford.

    DMS - glad for your information and help. Just thought that the site I posted at 3:18am 5/27 would be valuable for people to read and realize they have been putting this into the food for a long time. Why? cause they want to pay less so they can gouge us for more and kill ya in the process along with our pets.

  27. BJR says:

    Calculations based on USDA/FDA report
    Bruce R. RPH
    Exactly as stated
    See below
    #######################################
    Copied directly from report May 25 2007
    Interim Melamine and Analogues Safety/Risk Assessment

    Only one oral long-term dog study has been reported. Apart from crystalluria (excretion of crystals in the urine) in that study, no toxic effects were observed in dogs
    fed 1200 mg/kg/day for one year.1, 3 No oral studies with cat or human subjects have been reported.

    Concentrations of Melamine and Related Compounds in Feed
    Pet Food Scrap Samples
    Approximately 57 samples of pet food scraps destined for swine or poultry feed were collected from 14 locations thought to have received contaminated product. The results of the analyses are presented in Table A-1. Of those samples analyzed to date, 30 tested negative for melamine. The range for other pet food samples, when quantitative amounts were reported, was 9.4 to 1,952 ppm melamine. Results for cyanuric acid were reported for 20 samples. Of those, 13 were negative and the highest value quantitated was 2,180 ppm. Information was available on ammelide and ammeline in 20 samples; 18 samples were negative and two were positive for both compounds. For ammelide, the two concentrations that were positive were 6.0 and 10.8 ppm, and for ammeline were 3.0 and 43.3 ppm.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    My Calculations
    As stated above no toxic effects in doggie at 1200mg/kg/day
    Example 30 lb dog
    30lb/2.2 =13.6 kg
    Per FDA assessment safety data 13.6 multiplied by 1200mg/per day =16.32 grams per day 30 lb doggie would still be ok.
    Highest levels found per pet food as reported by FDA/USDA approx 2000 parts per million lets round for math sake.
    2000 divided by 2000 = 1
    1 million divided by 2000 =500
    2000 parts per million is the same as 1 part per 500
    According to USDA/FDA study above, a 30 lb doggie (like ours) could eat 16.32 grams of melamine daily and still be ok. Therefore doggie would have to eat (16.32 times 500=) 8160 grams of the most contaminated dog/pet food scraps daily in order to get this level of toxin (which is stated as still safe in dog toxicology study above). So, a 30 lb doggie could eat 18 lbs (8160g divided by 454g/lb) of the most adulterated dog food daily, and our doggie’s renal function should still be ok. Per FDA study urine crystals were noted. Urine crystals can cause kidney damage; however, per listed study, not enough for a health issue– even if doggie eats 18 lbs of dog food daily for a whole year.
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Conclusions
    Melamine and cyanuric acid have been in our food at low doses for many years and have not caused significant acute health risks to the human or pet population (as far as we know) in these low concentrations. Long term exposure may be a different matter; see MSDS sheet. Unfortunately, since a substantial amount of dogs and cats died–and mass spectrometry has not shown anything unusual, and we know something is there, my Jewish neurotic gut instinct says it must be something else and may be a matter for the CIA. Whatever it is, it is highly potent, of sophisticated design, and most likely intentional–and the melamine is just a diversion. Remember it’s not showing up on a mass spectrometer!!!! that takes skill. I think somebody just tested our defenses, with a very well thought out test at that. Since the Chinese have more to lose, it is not the Chinese; they are the patsy. Sorry President Bush, you have spent trillions on defense both inside and out; and I truly believe you have attempted to do your best to defend this country. But the FDA and the USDA have allowed Americans to eat the evidence. Releasing millions of tainted farm animals for slaughter, not knowing for sure what the toxin is, and considering that we are at war, was a big mistake. We are at war!! Whatever it is, I sure do hope it is diluted enough. I think this was an attack, and doggie and Kitty were the canaries in the coal mine!!!
    Bruce R. RPH
    ———————————————————————————————-

  28. DMR says:

    Unless the government does know and they are just not telling us! Not that I would give Bush any intellectual upperhand or compassionate credit. But someone in his adminstration may have been able to figure it out what is in the food. Good thing we will have the Canadians working on it as well.
    I definitely believe they should have erred on the side of caution and not released the food for human consumption. The cyanuric acid levels in the urine should have been quantified, and the other two substances, if possible. Plus, the very real possibility remains that there is another contaminant or that the levels of MC’s are higher than reported. Remember the 20% figure of melamine in the protein assessment sheet and the “one magnitude higher”, which I believe is a power of 10, in this document we are now referring to. That is the difference between 2000 and 20000 ppm. One has to wonder if the cyanuric acid levels were one magnitude higher as well. I think that would change the risk assessment.

  29. Shar says:

    They just recalled contact lens solution contaiminated in GUESS WHERE. China No I don’t just have to worry about my dogs, now I have to worry about my children’s eyesite. When are we going to wake up to the deplorable conditions of things made in CHINA. This isn’t going to end soon.

  30. Rockman13 says:

    Big Fat Momma Cat, May 25th, 2007 at 7:40 pm, Says: “OK, so bakery meal is made from human foods, like Helen says…Is that right? It doesn’t seem to be made from pet food. I found a place that recycles cakes, cookies etc. into pet food… ??? sugar = corn, do I read that right???… Anyway if it ain’t pet food and it certainly seems not to be that way…(right???)… Then its leftover people food??? Is that right???… AND if it’s leftover people food then it started out as people food???… Is this right???… AND, therefore, There Is Melamine in People Food???… Is that it? There’s melamine in our foods, too??? (Besides the pork, chicken and fish, that is, LOL)… Did I miss a step or jump to a wrong conclusion???? Please tell me I’m wrong!!!”

    Fortunately, you got it half right, and half wqrong! Bakery meal is nothing more than damaged baked goods from bakeries making human food, like Nabisco, Wonder Bread, General Mills, Kraft, etc. Baked goods that fall off of the conveyor belt onto the floor, or are over baked, or are under baked, etc. are salvaged and made into bakery meal. There are no melamines in any of these food stuffs. Bakery meal is not an ingredient to any recipe of human food production.

    The melamine comes in when tainted scrap pet food is combined with bakery meal and other things to make feed for pigs and chickens.

    The melamine comes into the human food supply only when one eats pork, chicken (and eggs?) where the pigs & chickens had been fed feed that contained tainted scrap pet food.

    What everybody seems to be overlooking on this blog is that where human food came from these pigs and chickens fed tainted food, the actual melamine content in the meat is in extremely minute amounts, thousands and thousands of times less what is safe in the human diet.

    And, no, we are not importing bakery meal from China to feed either humans or pets.

  31. Rockman13 says:

    To DMS, yes and one order of magnitude is 10 times greater, 2 orders of magnitude is 100 times greater.

    To JJ, melamine has been legally fed only to selected ruminants, i.e., cows, because they have a bacteria in their digestive tract that breaks it down into something that the cow can digest/absorb and use as a source of nitrogen, a key element in proteins. Melamine has not been approved as a feed ingredient for other animals. The problem is that some Chinese food manufacturers have been knowingly putting melamine (and cyanuric acid) in their food stuffs exports, labeling the product as “textiles,” so that the Chinese and U.S. governments would not test it for melamine! Since the U.S. buyers know that it is illegal to to do this kind of adulteration in the U.S., they never suspected that the wheat gluten would be contaminated.

    Also, melamine is inert in the human, cat & dog digestive tract. The problem is, that some/all of the gluten imports also have cyanuric acid in them, and when fed in high enough concentrations (melamine AND cyanuric acid, that is) the crystals were formed in the kidneys and urinary tract ultimately killing the animals.

    Most melamine and cyanuric acid is removed from the animal’s blood by the kidneys and expelled in their urine. However this is somewhat dependent on the daily intake, and if the intake is high enough, some does accumulate in the animal’s tissue until such time as the animal has not eaten any melamine for a number of days.

  32. DMS says:

    I still would like to see some proof that the dairy and grain flour products for human consumption are not contaminated with melamine and its analogues. So far we haven’t seen any proof. It’s not a very big leap in this mess!

  33. Itchmo: News, humor and product reviews for cats, dogs and pet owners. » USDA Asks For Comments On Melamine Decisions says:

    […] FDA and the USDA have concluded that melamine-tainted food that was fed to poultry , fish and pork posses little risk to the public’s health. Now, they are asking for your feedback on the decision-making process […]

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