Comments on: FDA Vets Focused on Salmonella Risk Before Recall http://www.itchmo.com/fda-vets-focused-on-salmonella-before-recall-365 Essential news for cats, dogs and pet owners. Tue, 22 May 2012 13:58:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Dave http://www.itchmo.com/fda-vets-focused-on-salmonella-before-recall-365#comment-27037 Dave Fri, 08 Jun 2007 13:41:38 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/fda-vets-focused-on-salmonella-before-recall-365#comment-27037 Vets (and the FDA) are concerned that if a dog eats raw, they will transfer salmonella to a person if they lick your face. Nothing however is ever mentioned by a vet that dogs put old sticks and balls in their mouth, drink muddy water, drink out of the toilet, eat goose and rabbit poop, some eat their own or other dogs poops and they lick their bums.....soon we will have to stop our dogs from doing these things too. As Judy indicated, you just have to handle any raw product for a pet the same way you for yourself. Our dogs are a living being with a heart, lungs, intestines, etc. and they deserve living foods. No animal in a zoo is fed a kibble or highly processed cooked food, filled with preservatives. Dogs should not eat high percentages of grains, rice or corn yet pet food companies use these products because it is cheap.....amazing that the recall is about using cheap products.....I wonder what the expensive stuff is made of. I can't control everything in this world but I can control what my dogs eat. They have eaten raw for 8 years and are healthy living beings. If raw feeding was so bad, there would be 1,000's of peope who have tried it and would be posting all kind of negative comments......where are those negative raw feeding people. The only comments however made are those trying to make money from commercial pet food companies, government agencies who think they know everything or vets who think they are in the pet food business. Dave Vets (and the FDA) are concerned that if a dog eats raw, they will transfer salmonella to a person if they lick your face. Nothing however is ever mentioned by a vet that dogs put old sticks and balls in their mouth, drink muddy water, drink out of the toilet, eat goose and rabbit poop, some eat their own or other dogs poops and they lick their bums…..soon we will have to stop our dogs from doing these things too.

As Judy indicated, you just have to handle any raw product for a pet the same way you for yourself. Our dogs are a living being with a heart, lungs, intestines, etc. and they deserve living foods. No animal in a zoo is fed a kibble or highly processed cooked food, filled with preservatives. Dogs should not eat high percentages of grains, rice or corn yet pet food companies use these products because it is cheap…..amazing that the recall is about using cheap products…..I wonder what the expensive stuff is made of.

I can’t control everything in this world but I can control what my dogs eat. They have eaten raw for 8 years and are healthy living beings. If raw feeding was so bad, there would be 1,000’s of peope who have tried it and would be posting all kind of negative comments……where are those negative raw feeding people. The only comments however made are those trying to make money from commercial pet food companies, government agencies who think they know everything or vets who think they are in the pet food business. Dave

]]> By: Judy http://www.itchmo.com/fda-vets-focused-on-salmonella-before-recall-365#comment-3774 Judy Mon, 09 Apr 2007 23:34:58 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/fda-vets-focused-on-salmonella-before-recall-365#comment-3774 I have been feeding raw to both cats and dogs for probably 40 years, with nothing but good results. When I brought my baby Chihuahua home, that's what she got too. It is total hysteria the concern for raw meat. The source should be as clean as possible, and then if you freeze it solid, there is very little chance of any problems. Carnivores are totally equipped to handle any germs that come along with it, because of the PH in the gut and the short digestive tract. There have been way more recalls and deaths due to manufactured foods, along with conditions that come from years of eating a totally dead diet devoid of meat in some of them. Just the fact that there are "veterinary diets" prove that the food in the first place caused the problem, or there would be no need for a "dietary" correction. You take the same precautions in the kitchen that you do in fixing the meat you have for supper. Most people, if they are not fanatical about it, become resistant to this stuff after awhile. All that is necessary, is washing stuff with plain soap and water, and it doesn't have to be bacterial soap either. Just normal precautions. I have been feeding raw to both cats and dogs for probably 40 years, with nothing but good results.
When I brought my baby Chihuahua home, that’s what she got too.
It is total hysteria the concern for raw meat. The source should be as clean as possible, and then if you freeze it solid, there is very little chance of any problems. Carnivores are totally equipped to handle any germs that come along with it, because of the PH in the gut and the short digestive tract.
There have been way more recalls and deaths due to manufactured foods, along with conditions that come from years of eating a totally dead diet devoid of meat in some of them.
Just the fact that there are “veterinary diets” prove that the food in the first place caused the problem, or there would be no need for a “dietary” correction.

You take the same precautions in the kitchen that you do in fixing the meat you have for supper.
Most people, if they are not fanatical about it, become resistant to this stuff after awhile.
All that is necessary, is washing stuff with plain soap and water, and it doesn’t have to be bacterial soap either. Just normal precautions.

]]> By: Lynette http://www.itchmo.com/fda-vets-focused-on-salmonella-before-recall-365#comment-3731 Lynette Mon, 09 Apr 2007 14:45:22 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/fda-vets-focused-on-salmonella-before-recall-365#comment-3731 No kidding. (said sarcastically) The FDA has been pretty openly against raw pet food - basically stating that they can't prohibit raw pet food, but certainly aren't in favor of it. http://www.fda.gov/cvm/Guidance/Guide122.pdf Quote: "FDA does not believe raw meat foods for animals are consistent with the goal of protecting the public from significant health risks, particularly when such products are brought into the home and/or used to feed domestic pets. Objective data derived specifically from commercial raw meat pet foods are sparse for quantifying the magnitude of risk to human and animal health from such products. Therefore, CVM also reviewed data on the risks to humans, both from foodborne pathogens in general and from food-borne pathogens relating to raw foods for humans. These data are relevant because people are exposed to food borne pathogens in animal feed when they come in contact with that feed, and animals, in general, are affected by pathogens in the same manner as people. Based on these data, CVM believes the risk to public health from feeding raw meat products to animals warrants taking the precautionary measures described in this guidance." As far as I know, there has been ONE documented case of a cat getting sick from salmonella - an unneutered 15-year-old male owned by a hoarder and fed tainted meat. In my opinion, the FDA is targeting an industry (raw pet food) where FEW large companies are involved - perhaps because those same large companies feel threatened by this budding market? Small pet food companies sure make an easy target. Too bad the FDA can't, however, find time to visit plants where a huge % of the pet food supply is manufactured, huh? No kidding. (said sarcastically)

The FDA has been pretty openly against raw pet food - basically stating that they can’t prohibit raw pet food, but certainly aren’t in favor of it.
http://www.fda.gov/cvm/Guidance/Guide122.pdf

Quote: “FDA does not believe raw meat foods for animals are consistent with the goal of protecting the public from significant health risks, particularly when such products are brought into the home and/or used to feed domestic pets. Objective data derived specifically from commercial raw meat pet foods are sparse for quantifying the magnitude of risk to human and animal health from such products. Therefore, CVM also reviewed data on the risks to humans, both from foodborne pathogens in general and from food-borne pathogens relating to raw foods for humans.
These data are relevant because people are exposed to food borne pathogens in animal feed when they come in contact with that feed, and animals, in general, are affected by pathogens in the same manner as people. Based on these data, CVM believes the risk to public health from
feeding raw meat products to animals warrants taking the precautionary measures described in this guidance.”

As far as I know, there has been ONE documented case of a cat getting sick from salmonella - an unneutered 15-year-old male owned by a hoarder and fed tainted meat. In my opinion, the FDA is targeting an industry (raw pet food) where FEW large companies are involved - perhaps because those same large companies feel threatened by this budding market? Small pet food companies sure make an easy target.

Too bad the FDA can’t, however, find time to visit plants where a huge % of the pet food supply is manufactured, huh?

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