Fish Fed Melamine-Tainted Feed, Rice Protein Actually Wheat Flour
UPDATE 2: Transcript of the press conference is here.
UPDATE: Here’s a picture of the “mis-labeled” bag imported through ChemNutra that containted the melamine-tainted wheat flour.
The AP reports on why we didn’t know sooner:
When asked why ChemNutra didn’t disclose previously that it played a part in that deal, Stern said the company did notify the FDA in mid April. However, the company chose not to include the co-brokered shipment in an April 2 recall of the wheat gluten it had imported for use in pet food … because it hadn’t sold the ingredient, Stern said.
So what other company was involved?
(Correction: Wheat flour spiked with melamine was sold as wheat gluten and rice protein concentrate)
May 8th FDA press conference on melamine investigation update. We have posted the major points below.
Fish feed contaminated: Contaminated feed went into fish feed in Canada, sold to US fish farms. Investigators have only been to one farm and no fish has entered the market yet. Learned in the last week (about 2 months after the first recall) that contaminated fish feed ingredient was brokered through ChemNutra — the same company that supplied Menu Foods. Fish meal constitutes less than 50% of fish food.
Pet food quality control failed to detect problems: Wheat flour added instead of rice protein concentrate or wheat gluten. Pet food companies are responsible for testing for correct ingredients.
Contaminated shipments actually wheat flour: Not labeled wheat flour. Wheat gluten and wheat flour are related. Pet food with contaminated rice protein concentrate actually contained wheat flour.
Affects on farm animals not yet conclusive: Animal exposure risk assessment not yet complete. May take a week. Although the FDA is saying that the exposure to the animals was brief and the concentration is low and even if you take an extreme position of exposure, the risk is 2500 times below any known possible risk.
FDA in reactive mode: FDA is currently focused on testing new imports of wheat gluten and rice protein concentrate, not other possible suspects. FDA will look at other ingredients if they start to see unusual spikes of unexplained illnesses.
The process of making wheat gluten: FDA comments: Wheat gluten is a component of wheat flour. It uses a process where you wash the starch away and then you’re left with the wheat gluten (the protein). This is when we are speculative — it certainly is a simpler process of a manufacturer where they take wheat flour or whole wheat and grind it up and then it would still have some wheat gluten in it. The total protein content of that is low. If you add melamine, you are adding nitrogen to it and when you do that, the measure of protein is actually measuring nitrogen. You have a wheat based product with high protein and then that creates the appearance of high protein when it actually is high nitrogen.
Attendee list after the jump.
On the call:
- David Acheson, M.D., assistant commissioner for food protection, Office of the Commissioner, FDA
- Kenneth Petersen, D.V.M., M.P.H., assistant administrator for field operations, Food Safety and Inspection Service, USDA
- Stephen Sundlof, D.V.M., Ph.D., director, Center for Veterinary Medicine, FDA
Julie Zawisza, assistant commissioner for public affairs, Office of the Commissioner, FDA - Captain David Elder, director, Office of Enforcement, Office of Regulatory Affairs, FDA
- Michael Rogers, director, Division of Field Investigations, Office of Regulatory Affairs, FDA
- Vera Adams, Executive Director, Commercial Targeting and Enforcement, U.S. Customs and Border Protection
May 8th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
Barbara - anything with a vegetable protein, ’cause they most likely came from China. Much easier to remember! :D
Genny - yeah, he’s a friend of mine who feeds his ferrets cat food, and has been concerned because of his elderly ferret. I know its a common practice with ferrets, but somehow I don’t think the ferret people are as up in arms as dog and cat people. If they’re even paying much attention to it.
May 8th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
I guess we can’t buy any bags of flour for baking anymore, can we?
May 8th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
Sure - get organic, grown in the USA flour. You can find it at organic groceries.
May 8th, 2007 at 9:48 pm
Genny,
I haven’t started yet, but I’m ready. I just wanted to know if there is something else out there I may miss. I don’t want to hurt my furry babies.
Thanks Genny and Moony.
May 8th, 2007 at 9:51 pm
Don’t know if it is significant, but the city where the pigs are bleeding out is near a Cargill mill and a couple of oilseeds crushing plants. (General area and a branch office is around there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.....ina%29.png
http://www.cargillchina.com/lo.....loc_en.htm
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05.....ref=slogin
May 8th, 2007 at 9:57 pm
To. bw… I dont think at this time it makes much difference what type of meat you use for your pets food. It seems to me that every meat source is suppect at this time. I gave up on chicken and started making my pets food with grass fed beef. I know it isnt cheap. I really feel for you. I hate giving advise about the right kind of food right now for a pet cause I love mine dearly and I am no expert. I would of said a few weeks ago to listen to your vet but I have a different point of view now. I lost a boston terrier that I loved like one of my kids to ibs. I would feed anything home made versus the vet recommented food. It really isnt that much more cost wise to do it home made. Try some homemade recipes. There are alot on line. I use Home=prepared dog and cat diets The Healthful Alternatives by Donald R. Strombeck, DVM PhD
May 8th, 2007 at 10:25 pm
suppect? Iam, tried…..going to bed///nighty nighty…..
May 8th, 2007 at 10:50 pm
http://www.koin.com/Global/story.asp?S=6488592
Melamine Found In Oregon Hatchery
PORTLAND - The Food and Drug Administration has confirmed that melamine has been found in fish feed at the Marion Folks Hatchery in Oregon.
The manager at the hatchery discontinued use of the feed, labeled as Bio Vita Starter, when the FDA contacted him about testing. The grade of food is used as a starter diet for juvenile salmon and trout.
The Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife contacted the company to find out if the feed was shipped to other hatcheries. Representatives from the Skretting Co. confirmed that the same lot was sent to the Willamette, Gnat Creek, Big Creek, Cole Rivers, Butte Falls and Leaburg hatcheries.
Hatchery managers immediately discontinued using any remaining fish feed from the lot in question and notified the FDA.
“Although officials from the FDA have not associated any risk to the fish or humans as a result of the melamine finding, we’ve stopped using the lot #32734 feed,” said Steve Williams, ODFW deputy fish administrator.
The fish feed is manufactured in Vancouver, Canada by the Skretting Co. It’s distributed under the Bio-Oregon label out of Longview, Wash.
5/8/2007
http://english.people.com.cn/2.....73045.html
China quality watchdog says two companies exported melamine-tainted wheat gluten, rice protein
China’s quality control watchdog has announced two Chinese companies exported melamine-contaminated wheat gluten and rice protein blamed for the deaths of dogs and cats in the United States.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) earlier said the Xuzhou Anying Biologic Technology Development Co. Ltd. and Binzhou Futian Biology Technology Co. Ltd. had exported the melamine-tainted products.
The FDA discovered melamine, a chemical used in plastics, fertilizers and flame retardants, in pet food recalled by Ontario-based pet food maker Menu Foods and traced the contaminated foodstuff to the two Chinese companies.
“The two companies illegally added melamine to the wheat gluten and rice protein in a bid to meet the contractual demand for the amount of protein in the products,” said the General Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine.
The watchdog said the two companies managed to evade quality check-ups by labeling them as exports that are not subject to quality inspection.
It said it had ordered local branches to strengthen quality inspection on all vegetable proteins and pledged to include all vegetable proteins on the exports list subject for quality check-ups.
It added the local public security authorities had launched an investigation into the cases and had detained related company officials.
The administration said it had found no further melamine-contaminated products after checking 399 samples from 173 exporters nationwide.
The watchdog said it had notified the FDA of the investigation results and proposed to set up a cooperation mechanism on food safety with the United States.
Source: Xinhua
Note that it’s said that they were not labeled as food products. This is what everyone thought all along. And they were accepted by both CN & W-E without question and not tested.
May 8th, 2007 at 11:02 pm
Duane, I SHOULDN’T have to lock my door at night. Neither should you.
And as far as that goes, I SHOULDN’T have to clean my toilet seat everytime my grandson doesn’t raise it. NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE FEEDING THEIR PETS, OR THEIR CHILDREN, OR THEMSELVES.
You really think China is going to inspect their c*%p before they ship it to us?
Why should they? They could really use some more room. Why would they inspect? They already know how stupid we are!
May 8th, 2007 at 11:06 pm
Gerry, Sue, keep trying. I converted a new person today to care about this. We should not give up on word of mouth.
May 8th, 2007 at 11:19 pm
From the transcript:
“DR. SUNDLOF: Yes. We have been for the last couple years working on a more comprehensive animal feed safety system. And we’ve been holding a number of public meetings…”
Does anyone else notice a decided lack of urgency here? “the last couple of years” !!!!!!! And here we are today in such an indescribable mess that I doubt anyone knows how widespread or dangerous this is. I do not for one minute believe all these safety-in-melamine assurances that are coming from FDA. I think they are desperately trying to cover themselves and avoid public panic. Public panic is exactly what should break out!
May 8th, 2007 at 11:39 pm
Hogs, chicken….now fish…why has no one mentioned beef? Cows eat grain based feeds? And with cows we have the added threat that our dairy supplies would be contaminated too.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:51 am
Barbara,
You’re welcome.
Moony,
I knew someone who had ferrets. Forgot that they do indeed eat catfood but I do remember they were somewhat smelly.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:57 am
I am a non-drinker going out now to get Kahlua, my holistic vet told me to feed my dogs Salmon, and I have been feeding canned salmon for about 2 years. Mix it with brown rice and shredded veggies, top off witha fish oil supplement and glucosamine. Dogs love it. I have been buying canned salmon for humans. Is it farm raised? cannot find anything onthe can. Will call mfg. tomorrow.
Oh, my ***, we may be in for BIG trouble.
Pepperdog’s mom
May 9th, 2007 at 1:09 am
Barbara,
I am pretty much a non-drinker, also, but I make a mean Bulldog for a few friends every Friday night before we go out for dinner. After last week with my very sick kitty, I’m surprised I haven’t depleted their Vodka and Kahlua supply.
I wish my kitties liked some kind of people food. You doggie parents probably have it a little easier in that respect. Salmon is supposed to be very good for people’s skin, btw.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:12 am
Ann –I agree with Moony. My beloved 17 year old kitty got very sick after she ate Natural Balance including vension and oceanfish variety. It is the only time she ate part of it. I refused to feed her Fancy Feast as soon as recall started and having been looking for a “premium ” food she would eat (have tried different brands even prior to recall). I have emailed NB twice telling them that she got very sick and taken to vet on some non recall varieties but no response at all.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:40 am
Helen,
I’m glad you were able to convince at least one person. It drives me mad that so many animal’s lives are at stake and the owners just won’t hear what we are trying to tell them. I swear I feel like standing in the pet food aisles with a big sign around my neck
offering free advice on what NOT to buy! I cringe every time I see someone slinging bags of “suspicious” brands of food into their shopping carts without giving a second thought to what they are buying, or the possible consequences.Sue
May 9th, 2007 at 4:10 am
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May 9th, 2007 at 5:58 am
Some of you folks are funny.
You drink alcohol, might smoke, possibly even eat (gasp) fast foods, and worry about the safety of pet foods.
I’m betting even a few of you are overweight.
I’m thinking maybe even a couple don’t do aerobic exercise 3 or more times a week.
Yes, I worry about the safety of both pet and human food. But it’s only one tiny link in the wellness chain.
I feel better having said that, although I know it won’t be popular.
May 9th, 2007 at 6:27 am
barb, what people do by choice is just that… by choice. that does not mean that pet food companies have permission to poison my pet… or me for that matter. your logic escapes me. are you saying we have to be completely pure in order to have a legitimate complaint about the shenanigans going on in the food business?
May 9th, 2007 at 7:29 am
How much is the US taxpayer paying for Secret Service protection for Bush’s FDA buddies? Considering how many people have lost their pets I would be afraid to publically express such idiocy on a daily basis the way that they do. Sooner or later a distraught pet owner is going to take out their frustrations on someone. I just hope they visit Chem Nutra and Wilbur Ellis first.
May 9th, 2007 at 7:38 am
How much more is there that we don’t know about? We as consumers should not purchase any product or product ingredient from China. This would be hard to do since anything packaged on the shelf could have an imported ingredient and you would not know it.
Our government should ban all foods and food ingredients from China. If this would happen, we would have more businesses/manufacturing here in the US. How terrible would that be. I would be willing to pay more for my foods.
May 9th, 2007 at 7:50 am
In answer to Barb, we all have the right to decide to be healthy or not care. This catastraphy does not give you the choice. In my opionion, our government has not done anything and is allowing us to be poisined although they won’t look at it like that. Small amounts of anything won’t kill you according to the FDA. Look at this new no transfact label that manufacturer’s now have to put on their products. A certain amount of transfat is still allowed and they can still label it as “no transfats”. The only way to be healthy is to not eat any processed foods and make your own. But now we can’t even trust the flour. I don’t think we can grow wheat ourselves and process it into flour. Our government needs to address this NOW!!!! We need to get republicans out of office who support big businesses to make a profit anyway they can, CHINA. We the people need to protest this. I don’t think that people think that this extends beyond pet food. I think people are in denial.
May 9th, 2007 at 8:58 am
Barb, I agree with Laura and Pat on your post. Sure, there are those of us that aren’t entirely health concious, but to allow flat out poispns in our food chain, I don’t think so. Our little drink thread was just us having some fun. Sure some may smoke, but they know the cigarettes aren’t good for them. They know this and find it hard to quit because of the addicting crap put in them. Maybe some are overweight because of the crap in the food. Ever think maybe all that melamine (plastic) is a tad hard to burn off. We’ve always had junk food in this country, yet I keep hearing on the news what an epidemic it has become.
And sadly, even if the crap in our foods is okay for us to consume, we do know that it is killing our pets. We have all alost the confidence of opening a can of cat of dog food and feeding our furballs without the worry of poisoning them. Obivously, making their food ourselves may all be for naught too since it is in the chickens, pork and fish and who knows what else. Do we trust where the supplements or the ingredients that go into them..no. This goes well beyond the “transfat” that they keep harping on.
However, since you have it all under control, please let us know what you are doing these days in the food department, especially regarding your pets.
Thank you.
May 9th, 2007 at 8:58 am
I’m confused about the fish feed tainted issue. Does this affect pet fish or fish that goes into our cat and dog’s food?
May 9th, 2007 at 9:11 am
Barb,
What the f*** does us being physically fit or eating fast food have to do with companies poisoning our pets and potentially us? Your logic makes no sense whatsoever.
May 9th, 2007 at 9:26 am
barb,
I have to agree with Debbie 4747, Laura and Pat.
Carol, as it looks to me right now, it has only affected fish for cat and dog food, but if you have fish, you may want to do some research .
By the way, I’m not the Barbara with the dog. I believe its Pepperdogs mom.
Thanks
May 9th, 2007 at 9:30 am
Barbara,
There is nothing else in their that can be adulterated. I was told cross contam is not an issue at ANI, and that all their products were tested. I spoke directly to one of the regional managers, not someone on the 800 line.
May 9th, 2007 at 9:32 am
Oh, I agree with Eric also.
May 9th, 2007 at 9:32 am
Shut down trade with China on any food protein. BUy only pet foods that have all protein ingredients sourced in USA.
I remember recently when Mad Cow was found in 1 cow, that Japan shut down all beef trade with USA.
If China kills all our pets and then us, who will be left to buy the junk at Hobby Lobby?
May 9th, 2007 at 9:34 am
Has anyone been in itchmo forums index recently? More good info, in there.
May 9th, 2007 at 10:27 am
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May 9th, 2007 at 10:47 am
Barb,
What a smug comment you made.
If I want to eat greasy chicken, pizza, cheeseburgers w/extra mayo, biggie fries and top it off with a fried pie, chase it with scotch on the rocks with a few cigarettes, that is MY choice. I am responsible for my own health choices and the effects thereof which might result in shortening my life by way of slowly killing myself.
It is a different matter should I unknowingly open a can of poisoned food, give it to my pet and watch it writher in pain and die suddenly right in front of me or, if I’m lucky, have a chronically sick pet that will cost me dearly emotionally and finacially . It is a matter of choice and responsibility, both of which have been taken away from us. Pssst….Your choice of healthy consumables has diminished considerably lately, also.
Pass the Buck-o-Chicken.
May 9th, 2007 at 11:04 am
Our 3 cats love the raw diet formula at catnutrition.org.
FEEDING YOUR CAT: KNOW THE BASICS OF FELINE NUTRITION
Lisa A. Pierson, DVM
http://www.catinfo.org/
RECIPEs
http://www.catnutrition.org/recipes.html
May 9th, 2007 at 11:14 am
Barb,Another thing, as Genny pointed out about our pets writhing in pain. I don’t suppose you’ve ever seen a cat or dog in agony because it has blocked and can’t urinate and then having a catheter slid into its urethra. It’s especially painful in dogs. Have you ever seen a cat or dog just hover over the water dish, turn into skin and bones, have that “I wish I could just die already” look as it’s going through yet another round of fluids. Have you ever heard how sorrowful the pet parents can be as their furry are put down? Have you seen an animal gasping for life as it is in its last stages of renal failure? I used to work part time as a vet tech, and trust me it was not a pretty sight.
Sure, let the government allow all the poisons in their food which will of course trickle down into the pet food. Please, I asked before and I will ask again, since you seem to have it all under control, just what are you doing during these trying times?
May 9th, 2007 at 11:33 am
barb Says:
May 9th, 2007 at 5:58 am
Some of you folks are funny.
You drink alcohol, might smoke, possibly even eat (gasp) fast foods, and worry about the safety of pet foods.
I’m betting even a few of you are overweight.
I’m thinking maybe even a couple don’t do aerobic exercise 3 or more times a week.
Yes, I worry about the safety of both pet and human food. But it’s only one tiny link in the wellness chain.
I feel better having said that, although I know it won’t be popular.
OK Ms. PERFECT. What the hell does this have to do with poisionous ingredients in our pet’s food?
May 9th, 2007 at 11:55 am
“It’s especially painful in dogs”
Correction in my post above…should read It’s especially painful in male cats and dogs.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:10 pm
Debbie4747,
Dang! My male cat was the one that was catherized for crystal blockage. When I read your post about it being more painful for dogs I thought at least he had a tiny bit of something in his favor.
I watched the procedure through squinted, teary eyes but it was very interesting to witness, none the less.
I wish Barb would come back and enlighten us as you’ve asked. Despite the snippy post, I’m up for anything that will help with the health of my babies.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:28 pm
To barb:
Shame on you. This is neither the time, nor the place for condescension and pouring salt in someone’s wounds.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:31 pm
Genny,
Sorry about the mistake in my post…I’m at work….interruptions…they really think I should do stuff, LOL!
But yes it is more painful in males because their urethra is more narrow, not that females enjoy the procedure. And it is more prevalent in cats than dogs, but dogs have been brought in for treatments as well.
I think Barb is just a health nut, or thinks she is. Seems though there is crap in so much of our foods, including the stuff we thought was good. My boss like to eat chicken alot rather than red meat and alot of carbs. Poor guy is trying so hard to eat healthy. As we now know, chicken not only has melamine, but has had arsenic for years. And we all know that’s really good for our systems. All this stuff should be on the label, just like the warning on cigarrette wrappers.
But yeah I could stand to lose 15-20 pounds, could exercise, but I don’t. That doesn’t mean I have to eat poisons or my cats have to eat poisoned food and die does it? I really want her to tell us what she is doing that makes her so freaking superior.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
Debbie4747,
Yeah, it sux when work interfers with pleasure, eh?
Anything shoved up an urethra doesn’t sound fun. The first 2 times he was catherized, he was anesthetized but the last time he wasn’t. I wondered about that but he was so good during the last procedure and didn’t even moan, which he did the first time being under. I just hope neither of us has to go through that again. I don’t think I would be as good a patient as he was.
I don’t have human kids, only animal kids. I thought it was normal for any parent to have the “do as I say, not as I do” attitude meaning we would do better by our kids than ourselves. That’s why I thought the comments were a bit on the lame side…..and condescendingly superier. To each his own I suppose.
Btw, I really don’t like scotch and extra mayo but do crave greasy chicken occasionally. Since the future of eating chicken grows dimmer, I’m sure I’ll be jonesin’ for it more now since I shouldn’t eat it. ( ;
May 9th, 2007 at 1:01 pm
I don’t know if anyone else gets email from HSUS, but I received one a couple of days ago regarding the “Pet and Human Food Safety Act” which evidently was introduced on 5/1/07.
According to HSUS, the law would:
Help regulate the industry by establishing mandatory processing and ingredient standards and requiring more inspections of pet food processing plants; Create an early warning system to help identify possible contaminants earlier and penalize companies that don’t report possible contamination; Ensure that any future recalls are conducted quickly by giving the Food and Drug Administration the power to order mandatory recalls of tainted food.
It may not solve all our problems, but I suppose it’s a good start (if it even makes it out of committee….)
May 9th, 2007 at 1:43 pm
I particularly enjoyed last PM about Kahlua and Melamilk. I laughed and laughed, and was happy others were having a little fun. After all we’ve been through the last few months, we all needed it. It felt cozy.
Miriam, bw, and all:
I just purchased one of those metal mousetraps with the window on top. I am going to try catching a few live mice under the house for my indoor cats and will let you know how it works. If nothing else, it will provide healthy snacks for them. Never thought I would resort to this!
May 9th, 2007 at 1:48 pm
skl, they should also legislate a change in testing protocols to make them less susceptible to counterfeit ingredients. if protein testing wasn’t currently dependent on nitrogen content (an archaic, though cheap, testing method) the odds of us being in this mess go way down.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:03 pm
Genny, Sorry your kitty had to go through that and that you even saw it done. I’m sure it will live with you forever. How is he now?
I do like kahlua but only as an after drink when I go out and am not driving. I’ve had a bottle of wine in my fridge now for about 3 or 4 years…keep meaning to get to it but somehow never do…not much of a drinker either…but I do love ice-cream, oh how I looooovvve ice cream! Mela-brickle is my favorite. I too have only furkids and sometimes they do behave just like kids.
About 8 years ago I had some telemarketer on the phone and one of them was acting up. He would go to his romm on command, funny cat he is….but I was actually interested in what this one telemarketer was offering and had to yell at my cat for acting up. I scolded him and ordered him to his room and he went. I got back on the phone and the woman asked if I had kids. I told her no, actually it was my cat….duh…
But they are my babies and deserve to eat without being poisoned.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
Excuse this post if this is only news to me but I just heard an ad on CNN about a program airing 5/19 and 5/20 about poisoned food and do you know what you are eating? or something to that affect. Two nights, back to back. Could be good information for the masses.
Debbie4747,
Thanks. What we had to go through was better than the alternative that so many have had to endure lately.
He was…..uh…trying to “hump” my other kitty (both neutered) so he is feeling much better and back to his normal tricks. I’m not so naive to think we are out of the woods yet, though. Now, if I could only figure out what to feed them and rid the explosion of fleas. I put off treatment because I didn’t want to compromise their systems should they get sick from their food. Then I waited a few days till kitty got a little better which gave the fleas a chance to go nuts.
Mela-brickle. Ha ha! Good one. I’ve heard they put some pretty nasty stuff in ice cream, too, but I love it when the weather is cold. Must be the power of suggestion. Kahlua over ice cream is really tasty.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
Why are we importing Pork?
My question about fish in dog and cat food was answered by Cynthia.
Sooo, now back to the drawing board, I am using Canidae with Herring Meal in it.
Day by day I lose my appetite
May 9th, 2007 at 3:18 pm
barb,
Only a sadistic sociopath would laugh at or gain satisfaction in the suffering of poisoned pets and their owners. I wonder what your agenda could be in seeking to twist this tragedy into a mere food neurosis? You are wasting your time here. And “barb” is an appropriate moniker.
From barb:
“Some of you folks are funny.
You drink alcohol, might smoke, possibly even eat (gasp) fast foods, and worry about the safety of pet foods.
I’m betting even a few of you are overweight.
I’m thinking maybe even a couple don’t do aerobic exercise 3 or more times a week.
Yes, I worry about the safety of both pet and human food. But it’s only one tiny link in the wellness chain.
I feel better having said that, although I know it won’t be popular.”
May 9th, 2007 at 3:20 pm
Genny, glad to hear your little guy is on the mend. Hope you can get the flea thing under control soon though.
Wish I had cable, I’d love to see the CNN thing, but through this site I’m sure I’ll hear all about it!
Kahlua on the ice cream sounds good to me too, LOL! Hope this food thing clears up soon so we can all go back to leading normal lives and feed our pets without worrying if it will be their last meal.
Know what? I don’t even own a bottle of Kahlua, LOL! Maybe I should change that. I do have a real kick-a** recipe for Kahlua balls which are a big hit during the holidays, or even anytime I have the time to make them. I’ll post it later tonight or this week if I can find it. If you don’t see it in a couple of days remind me, or email me Debbie4747@yahoo.com It’s a bit of work to make them, but so, so, sooooo worth it!
May 9th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
Lookls like Cargill and Purina are linked . Perhaps getting closer to the smoking gun.