How The Food Industry Wants To Regain Consumer Confidence After Pet And Human Food Recalls
We have lost confidence in the safety of our food and our pet’s food.
According to a study done by the Food Marketing Institute in May, only 66% of shoppers felt confident that the food that they buy from the grocery store is safe. This was a significant drop from last year when 82% felt confident in food safety.
This rings alarm bells for the Food Marketing Institute because they normally don’t see such significant drops in confidence that quickly. (Well, when thousands of pets are dying and sick from their pet food, consumer confidence will plummet.)
IBM also conducted a food safety survey and they found similar results in consumer confidence. They also found out that 70% of consumers have low levels of trust in the claims that brands make about their health, wellness or environmental impact.
A consumer products analyst with IBM said that the decrease in consumer confidence in food safety isn’t due to the number of recalls but the high-profile, long-lasting nature of the recalls.
The food industry is taking steps to regain consumer confidence. The FDA is testing a program that would include photos of the most dangerous recalled goods to clarify which products are affected.
Numerous private companies are also joining in and releasing products that they say will increase consumer confidence in food safety.
From The Washington Times:
With a Dutch company, Corporate Express, YottaMark developed HarvestMark products, which include a code that growers place on a package of produce. Shoppers then enter the code at harvestmark.com and see where the produce was grown, when it was picked, who picked it and every place it went on the path to the grocery store.
HarvestMark was designed to be used in the event of a product recall, when shoppers could enter the code online to check whether that container has been recalled. But the company has found that consumers are more confident in the safety of their produce, year round, when they can see where it has been, Mr. Grant said.
HarvestMark products are only available in cities where participating growers send their goods. For now, it’s available in the Western United States.
Other tracking products include IBM’s “Veggie Vision,” a scanner that can locate where a product was grown, who picked it and on what date.
“The ability to track an individual [grocery] item, that is really rare and at the end of the day, the trust really goes up,” Mr. Blissett said.
The Veggie Vision technology requires product growers to provide tracking information. It’s becoming popular in Britain and Japan.
Dennis Francis, vice president of label development at Corporate Express, said he expects tracking information to one day be government-mandated.
He expects it to happen in a similar way to how nutritional labeling on foods began by producers but is now required by the government.
“We’re moving toward that right now,” he said. “This is in response to what the consumers really want and mandates are always behind consumer demand.”
July 6th, 2007 at 8:17 am
I know this probably sounds real paranoid but here’s some thoughts that I have not seen anyone discuss in any blogs. Please bear with me.
My dogs only eat dry feed and are refusing to eat most of the feed I have bought over the last 3 or 4 mos. (I’ve had luck with Nutrina brand meat based dry dog food) I’m wondering why is there not a dry dog food recall?
I know my chicken feed is tainted too…I have lost many chickens since this dog/cat food recall started and like my dogs they only eat their feed when very, very hungry and then they act like they don’t feel well and some have died.
Please bear with me now……….
There is a program the government is trying to pass into law called National Animal Identification System (NAIS) (please read about it here…http://animalid.aphis.usda.gov/nais/index.shtml)
And then there are those who oppose this plan…(please read about it here….http://nonais.org/)
In a nutshell the new law will require all livestock animals to be registered with the government which is really not a big deal afterall we have been doing this with our cats and dogs for quite some time but then it gets a bit more complex…the rules for reporting of each livestock animal’s birth, death, sale, got out of your yard…ect is crazy and would be too time consuming and expensive for most farmers/ranchers and homesteaders.
Now, here’s my paranoid thought(s).
I just can’t help thinking that this whole tainted feed thing is not an accident or only caused by tainted wheat gluten from China (guess they need a scapegoat) but the government’s sneaky way of getting the animal population under control.
Another possible senario is that the USA couldn’t sell their GMO wheat gluten so they decided to use it up in our animal feeds and some of the problems we are seeing may not be only melamine related.
I don’t know about anyone else but I worry that if our government could do something like this to our pets would they do it to us? What a sneaky way to reduce the over population problems of poor people that are a burden on our welfare and healthcare systems. And it could all be blamed on something imported from another country.
I warned you that it sounds paranoid but I do think about this.
July 6th, 2007 at 8:29 am
They want to regain my confidence? Then why are they fighting the country of origin labeling of their food? Seafood is labeled, and produce as well - in the stores where I shop - but your guess is as good as mine as to where the other foods have originated. I now know that “made in . . . ” means next to nothing if the ingredients have been assembled from hither and yon.
The result is that I am buying more locally, searching out more organic foods, avoiding like poison (!!!) some foods. The condiments from China? Out! The rice from India and China? Off the shelves. Doing my own research (including calling manufacurers or grocery chains) to ascertain the whats and wheres of the foods I (and my surviving dog) eat. Until food suppliers from grower to retailer take my concerns seriously my confidence is on hold.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:09 am
Our government allowed the hogs and chikens that had eaten melamine laced pet food into the human food supply. This was done to protect thier agribusiness buddies. Our government failed to release the name of the contractor that made veggie booty, again they seem to want to protect their cronies. Failed to release the names of all the companies that received containimated gluten from ChemNutra. Our government wants to eliminate COOL not to protect us , to protect their agribusiness buddies. Our government wants to add title 1 section 123 to further eliminate our knowing what food is GE, GMO , milk has growth hormones in it, they don’t want states and local governments to be able to pass laws to protect we the consumer, I think the labeling is what all consumers want. In the area where I live some local farmers including some Mennonites are growing GMO produce and selling it to the public with out telling it is GMO. It sold at a auction to grocery stores who have no knowledge it is GMO. We don’t trust the growers and manufactures of our food and pet food nor do we trust our government that is supposed to protect us. When we have a president that is holding secret meetings to form a North American Union and NAFTA super highway without the knowledge of Congress or the people why should we trust this president and his administraion. The house has introduced a resolution to stop this dishonest presidents plan it is House Current Resolution 40. When are government starts labeling where all products come from and all ingredients in a product come from maybe we will start to trust the safety of food for our pets and our selves.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:28 am
How about saying no to Chinese junk, especially food, pet and human!!!!!! Spencer
July 6th, 2007 at 9:44 am
“The FDA is testing a program that would include photos of the most dangerous recalled goods to clarify which products are affected.” Only the most dangerous recalled food will be pictured? Meaning if it kills you outright rather than just making you sick and causing permanent damage that may surface later? How about making sure bad products never make it to the store shelves in the first place?!?!?!? I say too little too late.
It frustrates the heck out of me we don’t know where the ingredients come from and where it is assembled. I would definately pay extra for food I knew had NOTHING from China in it. Hey corporate bigshots pay attention - someone could clean up if they made products with all American ingredients in it and marketed it that way!
July 6th, 2007 at 9:45 am
I would love to know how releasing a new product is going to increase consumer confidence. What they really means is that they are going to spend billions of dollars on a marketing scam to make us think things are peachy without actually changing a thing about the way they manufacture or label.
As of yesterday, Kraft processed cheese singles STILL had milk protein concentrate, a BANNED ingredient in the US, on its ingredient list. Kraft has basically given the FDA and us the finger. That really increases my confidence a whole bunch. I just read that Kraft offered 7.2 billion dollars to buy the cereal and cookie division of a French company. they have 7.2 billion to spend and they can’t afford to make cheese without a banned ingtredient. I will never eat another Kraft product as long as I live.
How’s that self regulation working for you now. Our prisons are full of corporate felons, the same folks that are/were charged with my food safety. People who cheat and embezzle and are engaged in corruption and insider trading don’t give a damn about anything other than money and not getting caught. Self regulation to them means if 200 people drop dead after eating our product AND the FDA bangs on our door then we will consider a recall … maybe.
So releasing a new product is going to make everything better. What a joke.
I am glad though to see that more people are waking up and realizing that the system is broken.
And if, in the future, you think that you are buying American when you buy a Chrysler car, think again. I just read in the paper that Chrysler has entered into an agreement with a Chinese company called Chery Automobile where Chery will make small cars under the Chrysler name. *shudder*
July 6th, 2007 at 9:55 am
Very well said, Thomas!
I think most folks still don’t know the worst about NAFTA! Outsourcing our manufacturing and food supplies is bad enough, but it is the provisions of NAFTA that are mandating the merging of our country with Canada and Mexico–erasing our borders, and forming a North American Union. Remember when Bush talked about, lets not worry about enforcing our north and south borders, but protect the borders or North America?
Were you aware that the immigration bill (that failed) had a sneaky provision in it to help the NAFTA superhighway along? BTW, your congressman will probably tell you the NAFTA superhighway is not so—-mine did! He even sent me a letter from the U.S. Dept of Transportation saying there is no “NAFTA Superhighway”—but there IS plans for PRIVATE COMPANIES to invest in TOLL ROADS, the first of which is the Trans-Texas Corridor! Can you imagine who those private companies might be? And, yes, some of them are OTHER COUNTRIES!
It makes me sick that these congressmen will lie when asked about a superhighway, but it is just like when we were kids, and we would cross our fingers behind our backs as we told a lie, cuz then it was OK? The congressmen just don’t CALL it the “NAFTA SUPERHIGHWAY”, they call it something else, so therefore they think they are protected from the LIE!
If I and you can go to the GOVT WEBSITES and read about the Security and Prosperity Partnership that Bush signed with Canada and Mexico, (www.spp.gov) and learn about the “superhighway” (or whatever they choose to call it) my congressman certainly knows and was lying through his teeth, and expecting me to believe it, cuz I’m just a peon to him!
Phew! Enuff of that! I will get off my soapbox–Thomas, it is your fault, you set me off! :)
I came here to post this link about labeling our food, here it is.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07.....4wed1.html
July 6th, 2007 at 10:03 am
Another article about the problems with China Imports.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/n.....E_ID=56533
July 6th, 2007 at 10:22 am
I don’t want a pretty picture of something that is recalled AFTER its been sold and sickened or killed animals and people. I want to see things caught BEFORE it goes on market and COOL labeling. I want to see some REAL penalties enacted towards the companies who violate the law and distribute into commerce tainted food or food with unapproved ingredients. That’s the only thing that will make me feel better about food or the FDA and the USDA. Until some of these issues are addressed, I will stick to not buying processed foods of any kind, growing and canning my own, buying local, raising my own meat and making my own pet food.
“Numerous private companies are also joining in and releasing products that they say will increase consumer confidence in food safety.”
Great! That means we will get products with all USA ingredients? NO imported nothing? No GMO’s, hormones or synthetic preservatives? COOL labeling? It’s a start and when they hit the shelves I might take a look, but purchase will not happen until I investigate the claims. Yeah, for me the trust is gone and pictures and words will not bring it back.
July 6th, 2007 at 10:26 am
As long as the FDA is front & center & responsible for our food safety, I will not feel safe with the food supply. Maybe……just maybe……the next administration will fire all the jokers within the FDA & put some people in there that will actually do their job & start protecting the American people from contaminated imports. That’s assuming there are enough people left who haven’t been poisoned by their food. They also need to start punishing any foreign country that sends us contaminated food stuff. The current FDA is a sad excuse for a group of people supposedly dedicated to protecting our food & drug supplies. Personally, I find that to be mighty scary. However, they DO protect all their buds in big business & that’s about it. Our tax dollars at work…..
I think my days of buying commercial pf are over. The latest test results at Don’s pf recall website about did it for me……one of the few companies I felt secure about (& there aren’t many these days). I’ve been home cooking with just a tad of dry food but I’m convinced that no pf is safe right now so I’m going to all home cooked. I had hoped to go back to commercial pf but I won’t now. I am so disgusted with the suits at these companies & how they handle these problems (ignore them & perhaps they’ll go away?????) & how they have been treating pet parents who are out thousands of dollars thanks to their greedy, irresponsible behavior. I absolutely refuse to give them my hard-earned money so they can lie & cheat & kill more pets. I’ve had it with you guys…..hope your profits take a nose dive. It’ll make my day…..
July 6th, 2007 at 10:36 am
lol!~ where are they planning on displaying the images of the most dangerous recalls?! And, let’s say they use recalled pet food, how would they *sort* the close to 5,000 varieties to decide which are the most dangerous?! And doesn’t Ground Beef with e-coli look exactly the same as Ground Beef without? Same with Canalopes . . .
just sayin’ . . . .
July 6th, 2007 at 10:40 am
“With a Dutch company, Corporate Express, YottaMark developed HarvestMark products, which include a code that growers place on a package of produce. Shoppers then enter the code at harvestmark.com and see where the produce was grown, when it was picked, who picked it and every place it went on the path to the grocery store.”
that’s a lot of work for the consumer. i know because i spent a heck of a lot of time making sure all my food was safe and where it came from. this would have saved me sometime, but still . . . . it doesn’t mean i’m going to be buying food, and then coming home and tracing it origins. i’m tracing BEFORE i purchase . . .
July 6th, 2007 at 10:52 am
Why don’t you instead show us the pictures of the greedy **@@!! corporate execs & gov. agents who are buying this cr*p & foisting it off on us to make themselves rich? All of them, every one of them who are participating in this in any way.
Then I would know what to avoid.
July 6th, 2007 at 10:54 am
As far as that tracker goes, it still doesn’t tell you what pesticides it used. and doesn’t tell you if it was irrigated with with filthy water- like a hog burrow, sewage,like down the road does.
But i still will never trust China, or the FDA, ot PFI.
July 6th, 2007 at 10:59 am
And it doesn’t tell you who picked it, meaning was it cleaned or not? As in the case of a lot of our so-called healthy produce.
Who was it We need to get in with about COOL again? I did get in touch with some but i need more.
And has anyone written to Bush to tell Him how discusted We are?
On a side note- Do you guys trust Evo Cat Food? I have a friend feeding it to Her cat, and she changed to it because she already lost one cat on another food?
July 6th, 2007 at 11:09 am
Has anyone read this week’s Time Magazine? The article about China (”The Growing Dangers of the China Trade” by Jyoti Thottam) has an interesting quote from David Acheson.
“Obviously it’s not possible for us to test every product that is coming in to make sure it’s meeting every standard we have,” Acheson says. “It’s got to be based on risk.”
That’s efficient use of resources, but it makes the FDA a “tombstone” agency: nothing happens unless someone dies. “Consumers are the canary in the coalmine for this system,” says Caroline Smith DeWaal of the Center for Science in the Public Interest. That’s not what a government agency should do. It should anticipate and prevent problems.”
If the FDA can’t/won’t do anything, the food industry needs topick up the slack. The “new and improved” BS doesn’t cut it. We don’t want a new sales pitch. How about implementing COOL voluntarily? One food distributor I know of has started marking products with foreign ingredients. I picked up a can of tomatoes the other day labelled “product of US and Canada.” I am now buying chicken and eggs from a farm where I can walk around the fields, look at records, talk to people, etc. And it’s cheaper. I will be buying a quarter of beef from a local place that’s part of the grass-fed association for $2.07 a pound. These companies don’t seem realize we will avoid doing business with them as much as possible. They don’t get that we don’t believe them any more, and a spiffy new computer program won’t change that.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:43 pm
Moveon.org sent me a survey form which I filled out.
At the end, they wanted suggestions on what project they should work on next.
I suggested the human and pet food companies who are allowing are food to be unsafe.
I told them pets are dying and people are getting cancer because of the toxins.
Also, I mentioned the unsafe Chinese imported foods.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:44 pm
Trudy - I have a friend who does cat rescue. She was feeding Solid Gold and Innova (don’t know if it is Evo or not). She as of recently is feeding only Innova. She has a female with UTI, a male with struvite bladder stones (removed recently and again a month ago). A male died several weeks ago due to urinary blockage. Another male has a creatin level of 4.0. This does not look good. She has now switched foods. Her sister also does cat rescue and feeds Innova (not Evo) and has not had any problems.
July 6th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
Elliott, thanks for letting Me know.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
I also went on moveon.org and told them that. also care 2, and said about the same.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
Does anyone know if there is a problem with Evo? We are feeding our border collies and our cat Evo. We had a cat die of acute renal failure in Jan. after eating Hill’s Prescription c/d dry. I submitted a claim to Hill’s which they denied since the c/d was not recalled. I plan to file an appeal.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:49 pm
Problem with EVO? I don’t think so. Several of my co-workers have switched to Evo from grocery store brand foods and all are doing well. My Sister is feeding her two cats Evo. They have been on the food for a couple of months and are doing really well. Her old shepherd she home cooks for. Me–well….I’m slowly switching from Canidae (which my dogs hate) to Timberwolf Bison organics–my doggies love the food. It was a hard decision to make. My dogs made up my mind for me. Of course I add home cook to their kibble.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:50 pm
I haven’t seen anything bad about Evo YET but Don’s website has some interesting info on Innova. Those were on my short list of safe foods & are now off my list. The test results are bad enough but this is another company who sounds like they just want to blow off anyone having problems with their food. Silly me…..I thought these pf companies were out there to make healthy, wholesome food for our pets…….NOT!
Elliott: Does your friend think it was the Solid Gold or the Innova that caused all those problems? I’m asking because I know a few people who feed Solid Gold Products & I tried to tell them they’re made at Diamond…..& we all know how many problems they’ve had. I’m just curious.
July 6th, 2007 at 1:57 pm
Pakunuba–does or did your dogs like the Canidae?
July 6th, 2007 at 2:10 pm
Pukanuba - she is not sure what is causing the problems. She stopped Solid Gold due to what is on their website about changing ingredients when necessary due to supply. Also the Diamond connection made her nervous.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:13 pm
Janice- HILL’S blows! My cats were eating the recalled m/d. They offered $100 per pet. Ain’t that GRAND!!??
July 6th, 2007 at 2:16 pm
Well maybe I bought a rancid bag or some other kind of spoilage ( and hence why I have hesitated to say anything) but my 3 cats did nothing but vomit their Evo dry almost every single time they ate it. Of course, maybe coincidental but put me right off to Natura products. Considering the current state of affairs with the recalls, 1 strike and I move on.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
nthstarr1 says:
July 6th, 2007 at 2:16 pm
Was that the first bag they had had? And did you do a slow switch? Evo can take some adjustments for some cats because of the ingredients. I had a kitten that it was too rich for until he hit 5-6 months and I know of others that had the same expewrience. That said, i totally understand your 1 strike and move on!
July 6th, 2007 at 2:22 pm
pictures of food. good job there fda, you have your finger on the pulse of the american psyche. heaven forbid that you should do your job and actually remove poison from the food supply.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:26 pm
Also in regards to Canidae Lamb and Rice dry for Dogs, I don’t know what is going on here but since switching to this I notice that my dogs now eat a lot of grass. They graze constantly so that their stools are 2/3 undigested grass. Also 1 formally very-high energy dog now has zero-energy and is acting off. Well, of course again, perhaps the food is just too low a protein/ fat or something else is ailing her but we won’t be eating anymore Canidae either. I wasn’t happy with our Felidae experience either. Next…
July 6th, 2007 at 2:43 pm
To anyone interested in where the Human Food and Pet Food Safety Act is it is here. Scroll down to S. 1274.
http://help.senate.gov/Bills.html
I emailed the committee a while ago. Maybe we need to do that again and let them know we are still watching and waiting for action on this bill.
July 6th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
I get tired of reading how the FDA should get off the dime and inspect ALL foodstuffs and ingredients that come in from abroad specifically China. Do people saying this not stop to realize that under current import levels that would be totally, completely physically impossible?? It would cost a gazillion billion dollars of taxpayer treasure and require almost every man and woman in America to serve as FDA agents. Get real. The only long term answers are to severely limit food imports, restrict NAFTA and CAFTA, reward American farmers and producers, (not discourage them), and implement super strict laws that require importers, foreign producers, retailers and foreign exporters to certify quality and safety with bonds on every shipment while instituting MAJOR fines and criminal penalties if they are not met. The people doing the importing and exporting and selling whoreaping the benefits need to pay for this. To expect “the government” who is after all, US, to foot the bill through some humongo politicized (regardless of which party is in power) agency for all this is nonsense.
Oh, believe me, I know this is a huge problem. I noe homecook for all my pets and have spent hours online trying to ascertain products that I will use in my home. I spent almost an hour at the drugstore on Tuesday reading labels and trying to find a toothpaste brand that I will allow inside my familt’s mouths—just TRY to find one made in America!
Of course, the existing FDA needs more funding and authority in the meantime and I am not defending them for the many boneheaded decisions and statements they have made.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
Oh no another person with a sick or dead cat from Hill c/d YIkes. Thanks to FFpoisoning my 2 girls I luckily avoided buying a new poison bag of c/d. I was down to 4 cans of wet and 1/2 bag of dry c/d. I swear I hate them.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
Elizabeth where did you read that the FDA should inspect everything? On this thread I’m seeing complaints about the agency, but basically, people want information about food made readily available so they can make their own decisions. Is asking for COOL to be implemented, and info about hormones, GMO, and pesticides asking the FDA to inspect all imports? In my mind that’s asking the food industry to be honest on the food labels.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:24 pm
Perhaps the food industry and their henchmen in the pet food industry had better stop worrying about “confidence” and focus on Truth.
The truth is that they’ve all been running “Confidence Games†on all of us for years in league with their goons at the FDA and USDA covering for them.
Labels printed up in foreign countries that are nonsensical in wording, general statements about what contents and ingredients are rather than specificity and precision, obvious omissions in labeling and failure to truthfully list ingredients and origins of ingredients rather than whom the ingredients were re-named or repackaged by along the way have led them to where they stand now.
Truth is an abstract concept that is foreign to the lot of them. The worst part of this problem is that they have changed everything very slowly over the years right before our eyes.
When their treachery is exposed they are quick to jump on the defensive loudly and vehemently proclaiming their innocence and lying through their teeth.
When backed up by their “Sleeper Goons†in the FDA and USDA, their treachery and deceit becomes even harder to prove. Of course the Government will not allow itself to be investigated by anyone other than the government. Nice little tidy package of corruption covering corruption for mega-bucks they’ve got going now isn’t it?
Anyone with a shred of intelligence left today is hard pressed to get it through the thick skulls of the duped masses how totally and arrogantly we are all being had by Big Business and our present Corrupt Government. Most people when presented with the facts regarding any of this will just stupidly look at you and shrug their shoulders, oblivious to how it is affecting them even as they plunge their TV brainwashed heads into the sand once again.
For all intents and purposes the word TRUTH has no place in America anymore. It is the most obscure idea ever conceived and a foreign concept to most people in this country.
What a sad commentary on the previously highly regarded term “Progressâ€.
Wake up America! You are allowing all of this to happen unopposed!
July 6th, 2007 at 3:40 pm
Mrs P. So sorry if I suggested or implied that on this specific thread today people had said that, but it does come up all the time on comments sections—–”it’s all the government’s fault”. I posted after reading your comment about FDA being a tombstone agency and Acheson’s comment that they can’t inspect everything. I mean no offense. I am just trying to help people view this problem in a broader way. (I also clearly haven’t figured out the new edit system because I thought I had corrected and clarified some things in my previous post before it “took” :).)
You bet we should have COOL (hello Pres. Bush), and absolutely the current FDA needs additional authority and funding (Where have you gone Sen. Durbin and Rep DeLauro ?) But mostly I feel food importers, exporters, retailers and producers must be held feet to the fire through strict new legislation and so far crickets are chirping.
July 6th, 2007 at 3:41 pm
straybaby,
Hi, I did try to do a switch over a few days… I didn’t have enough of the Pinnacle dry ( no grain- also high protein/ fat) that I was feeding short-term to do a slower switch. I think we tried Evo once before ( it seemed familar) to see what it was like as I have fed many dry premium foods but am not 100% sure. My cats are used to eating different foods and switch without incident, although I suppose this could always be a possible reaction. I’ll never say impossible as others experience difficulty switching… but 3 cats with the same pronounced reaction made me uncomfortable.
July 6th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
yeah, that does sound like a bad bag or something. my cats were also used to dining on various low/no grain foods and they would let me know if there was something wrong. 8 cats backing slowly away from a food bowl was always a sign! lol!~ they’ve been raw fed for a few years now, but last year i staretd putting down some dry with the new kitten (made sleeping through the night possible!). won’t be doing that ever again . . .
July 6th, 2007 at 4:13 pm
All the $$ companies spend on advertising, and they aren’t willing to put COOL on their labels as part of the advertisement? Just tells me they know the stuff is crap. I NEVER walk into a food store to buy something without asking an employee where it came from, and telling them I’m not eating anything from China. THIS consumer is advertizing preferences!
Go to Trader Joe’s and read the labels. Trader Joe’s brand FRENCH baby beets. BELGIAN chocolates. ITALIAN pizza. But when they don’t say? WATCH OUT! They won’t even tell me where the peanuts in their “organic peanut butter” are grown. “We don’t have a list.” “We’ve been importing for years and trust our suppliers.” Well, maybe I DON’T trust their suppliers!
Not to pick on them. I shop there. I DON’T shop Walmart! Never set foot in the store, never will, recommend no one else go there either. Are they, ultimately, responsible for all those companies racing to the quality bottom? I buy organic Arrowhead Mills peanut butter now. Their peanuts are grown in southern U.S. under USDA organic regulations.
I don’t trust the international organic symbol on a label, either, if it doesn’t give the country of origin. If they went to all the trouble of putting that symbol on the label, they can d@mn well add COOL too!
As for commercial pet food, pah! The baby I’m sitting this weekend is eating homemade meat loaf with HUMAN GRADE ingredients, even though she came with a bag of kibble. If I ever replace my dog (replace? how do you replace a dog?) I’ll cook from scratch. This business of it being too complicated is beyond condescending.
July 6th, 2007 at 4:20 pm
The pet food companies make the pet food. It is THEIR responsibility to make sure it is safe as a company.
That is something they *cannot avoid*. Since the list of contaminants in foods and imports keeps growing. They cannot play victim, this has gone past ground zero of Menu Foods and is after all, the Information Age.
Too much information is out there about the lack of safety in human foods, pet foods and animal feeds.
They know that the source of the sickness and death has NOT been solved.
Until it is SOLVED, we have no reason to believe that the claims of “safe” are now true.
Nobody said it WAS the melamine or WAS the cyanuric acid or WAS the combination that was THE cause of death or sickness.
It was their products- so somebody better tell the pet food industry that THEY better haul out the big bucks and solve the issues of sick/dead pets.
Find the cause. Prove the Cause.
It is NOT the FDA’s responsibility to do that- they are not selling the food, they are not advertising food for sale. That is the responsibility of the pet food companies & manufacturers.
Our responsibility is to clean their ears out and let them hear it!!
Also, file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission.
Emails to the pet food industry would be worth 1,000 sent to the FDA and worth 500 sent to our representative in Congress.
July 6th, 2007 at 4:33 pm
To any of the posters feeding Natura products (Innova, Evo, California Natural, Healthwise, Mother Nature, Karma) please take the time, as Puckanuba suggested, and read Donna’s experience from Dons website( posted July 1, 2007):
http://www.petfoodrecallfacts.com/lab.html
I too was feeding my one remaining cat, that Hill’s failed to kill, both the Innova and California Natural products. I was very happy with how her health seemed to improve on these foods. But I will not support a company who does not act responsibly when a customer brings up a legitament concern as in Donna’s case. This from a company who markets themselves as something better than the big manufacturers. Until they come forward and issue an apology to Donna, they are in my opinion no better than KILLS or any of the others.
July 6th, 2007 at 4:36 pm
Please be aware. On talk shows, the Government, wants to not be able to have country of origin on any products, including , milk, meat etc.
July 6th, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Steve,
Donna’s case is the only one I have heard about. We can’t jump the gun on these things. When I first read her article I almost hit the roof because I WAS slowly switching my kids from Canidae to Evo & TW. My dogs chose the Timberwolf, so we decided to go with them, for now. I agree that NO commercial kibble is good for our critters, but the Natura lines are probably the best out there (ingredient wise). I did a taste test with my GSD’s and it was pretty funny. I put out my hand with Canidae in it-nope, noses turned the other way. Next came the Timberwolf Bison–sucked it down like it was chocolate. The EVO they ate, but were not thrilled with it. I do have a bag of EVO that I will not use, not because of what Donna went through, but because my dogs like TW better than the EVO.
July 6th, 2007 at 5:02 pm
Sandi, for clarification who is “the government” you refer to as speaking on talk shows and which talk shows have you seen? Is there a transcript maybe?
July 6th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
I think “truth” is a very foreign word to our corporations, just like ethics and morals. I will never feel confident about food safety until COOL is passed. Pictures! they have to be kidding.
As a side note: on the CNN Money site yesterday there was a big article about corporations adding a new department with a global food inspector in charge, some have hired people to head the dept. but have no idea how to go about implementing it! I suspect that safety and greed don’t mix.
I will continue to home cook for my dog, she’s doing so well and on the recovery road, that I will never take another chance with commercial pet food. I still don’t think we have the answer as to what happened. And, for my family - we are eating more fresh local food and asking lots of questions of store managers and bugging the heck out of corporations with telephone calls.
As for the FDA, they must be trying to figure out how to quell the public and still let agribusiness rule the country. Maybe their first order of business should be to issue immeadiate mandatory recalls and no more false risk assessments.
Katie
July 6th, 2007 at 5:42 pm
Katie, agree completely but——FDA does not currently have legal authority for mandatory recalls—-hard to believe but true!!!!. Congress has never seen fit to give them that power. A few months ago Rep DeLauro and Sen. Durbin proposed legislation to expand food safety requirements and got us all exited. But even that legislation (which is just sitting on a congressional desk somewhere in Washington) did not go so far as to give mandatory recall authority to FDA. Hard to deal with isn’t it?
July 6th, 2007 at 6:19 pm
Talk about corporate Insensitivity and just plain Stupidity: It was just announced that CHINA will be premiering a new car in this country, the CHERY said to sell for about $7000.00.
Look what GREAT things come from Internationally blind trade agreements.
Thanks Carter, Thanks Clinton, you opened the door for this onslaught of problems and dishonest life threatening and life taking products, and the current batch of double dealing Rummy’s are also in league with the “devil” as it were.
Where are the tar and feathers now that we need them?
They have partnered with Chrysler Corporation to introduce this vehicle.
Here we go again folks! As if there weren’t already enough problems with defective and killer cars here.
America the killer junkyard!
July 6th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
I was looking at FDA, USDA, and CPSC, and all listed “voluntary” recalls. Is the only mandatory recall allowable on baby formula? Lead in bibs was voluntary; batteries that were a fire hazard, voluntary, salmonella in peanut butter, voluntary, E. coli in beef, voluntary. None of these agencies seem to have any teeth. And Congress doesn’t seem inclined to give them any real power. When these agencies were created there were very few iif any multinational companies. I think these laws are hopelessly out of date. When the FDA was created, the import/export business hardly existed. I don’t think Acheson knows what to do. He just shakes his head and says they can’t test everything. He might as well come out and say the FDA can’t help us.
July 6th, 2007 at 6:54 pm
Even if they start labeling where products come from it will not be good enough. Just like where the wheat gluten came from. An American company and in turn they got it from China. so.. how many companies may a product pass through? They sure are not going to label every one of the companies. There are always ways around everything with manufacturers.
I talked to Kraft and they said that they get their rice protein from New Zealand. WEll great right? Not really where does New Zealand get it? Are they going to tell the kraft company? No.. of course not.. They will just ship it to them. So.. you see it will do no good to find out where an item comes from because it still could come from anywhere.
The only way to make our food safe is for each and every company to have to test all of their imports for just about everything. Now if there was a tested label on the product that said that all ingrediants had been tested for bacteria, and any foreign things that should not be in it then I might buy the product and trust it a little more.. plus I would also want the origin on the label too!
July 6th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
There are some individuals in society deserving of a slow and painful death.
Such is the case with this useless maggot in this news video.
http://www.cnn. com/video/ #/video/us/ 2007/07/06/ brown.dog. dragged.by. suv.
How damnably fortunate for this scumbag that I do not live anywhere near him.
July 6th, 2007 at 7:12 pm
For anyone reading right now, turn on CNN - Situation Room. They are about to do a report on the growing concern over China imports, interview w/ Ralph Nader discussing COOL, FDA’s lack of inspections, Nike shoes, etc….I think it’s a repeat from about two hours ago…Nader was great!
July 6th, 2007 at 7:19 pm
Barb: My dog likes Canidae but no more commercial food for my dog…..PERIOD! The first bag had white bits all through the bag & embedded in the kibble…..now I read that somebody had a bag of another brand tested because of the white bits……excess Vit E which I guess can be harmful. Canidae told me it was separation during shipping. I did bring it back & when I bought the next bag months later, it was fine. As someone else said, strike one……
More & more info is pointing to a problem with the vitamins…..whether it’s too much of something or contamination in them, I think the problem is with the vitamins. Maybe that’s what they are keeping from us. The black/beige stuff that Donna found in the Innova that tested for traces of ac/ca……company claimed it was the vitamin premix that wasn’t ground up completely. I think this is all BS…..I think they are getting this vitamin premix from China & there is definitely something wrong with it. You can all call me paranoid (which I am…..for sure) but something is wrong with the commercial pf, ALL of it. Until somebody honest (ha ha…..like there are any in big business or within a gov’t agency) goes public with what the problem really is that has been killing & sickening our pets, I will not buy anything. Costs me to home cook & takes up a fair amount of time but it’s either that or a dead dog……I’ll do whatever it takes to avoid that.
At this point, the only place I think is being honest with us is Expertox. All the rest of them are lying through their teeth trying to cover up where their greed led them & what it did to our innocent fur kids.
Enjoy your money, all you pf suits out there, I can only pray that you won’t see the bonuses you’ve seen in the past…..we see through you suckers now & you’ve lost our confidence, our business AND OUR MONEY.
July 6th, 2007 at 7:23 pm
Thanks, Barb.
Public Citizen reports “…dozens of dietary supplements have been purposely and illegally laced with prescription drugs in an attempt to make them effective.”
http://www.citizen.org/hot_iss.....fm?ID=1646
July 6th, 2007 at 7:29 pm
BarbGSD: Tell me more about Timberwolf. I’ll have to check out their website & see if I can find it around here (So CA)…..some of the premium ones I read about, they don’t carry them around here. Right now I’m so afraid to give my dog any commercial pf…..don’t know what to do.
July 6th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
Thomas, thanks for saying the mennonites were selling GMO products. I was just going to get in touch with them this weekend and try to buy some food.
And that Caroline Smith DeWaal sounds like i’d like to send Her an email. i’ll try to find Her address.
I can’t get CNN, so please tell a little about what Nadar had to say. i’ll write him too. he’s usually good at this stuff.
July 6th, 2007 at 8:10 pm
MF is up–and there’s speculation that shares are being purchased in the name of a takeover bid:
http://communities.canada.com/.....-back.aspx
Menu Foods tries to claw back
“Units in Menu Foods Income Fund (MEWu/TSX) are up almost 10% Friday morning, as the company tries to claw back from the largest pet food recall in history.
“MenuFoods’ unit price dropped by half in March when it announced the recall of 60-million containers of dog and cat food following several pet deaths across North America. In mid-June units took another hit, after Proctor and Gamble, one of Menu’s biggest clients, announced it was canceling its contract manufacturing agreement with Menu Foods to make “cut and gravy” pet food products.
“This week, however, investors in Menu units appear rejuvenated, having traded up the fund roughly 23% since Tuesday.
“Perhaps takeover fever is at the root of the turnaround.
“Cormark Securities Aleem Israel said last week that Menu’s long-term unit price outlook is promising, despite his current 12-month price target of $1.60, with high takeover speculation and other deals in the consumer staples sector suggesting a takeout in the $3.45 to $5.20 per unit range.”
This also confirms that P & G was the major client who dropped the cuts & gravy, leaving the 11% non-cuts & gravy wet food with MF. If someone’s going to try to take over this company, they are buying a LOT of bad baggage with it. Can’t see why anyone would be buying the shares for anything other than a takeover try.
Things would need to be radically different for me to even think, never mind buy, anything produced by this company; that would mean it going into different ownership and management for a start.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:07 pm
Who would want that POS company? We would rather wait & watch them go under. Anyone who buys them is going to have a bad rep right off the bat….I can’t imagine anyone wanting to get involved in this fiasco.
July 6th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
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July 6th, 2007 at 10:55 pm
http://www.kashrut.com/Alerts/.....—How many of us even knew that some Hershey products had been recalled???? Time for another big round of applause for Itchmo for keeping us informed, and alas, time to remember that we are not done with this. No one has proven to my satisfaction that melamine or cyanuric acid was anything more than smoke screens, we may never know the name of the fifth toxin, and many of us have gone back to sleep. Mainstream public still looking at us like were a bunch of nuts, well, does anyone beside me remember that horrible high school biology experiment where a frog is placed in a pot of boiling water, and immediately jumps right out. Then a frog is placed in a pot of cold water, which is slowly heated to a boil, as is the frog as well. People, we, the citizens of this USA, are frogs in a ot of water rapidly approaching the boiling point and we are still sleeping!
July 7th, 2007 at 2:55 am
I would have more confidence if they labeled all food and each ingredient as to where it is from and recalls were mandatory with huge fines and jail time for any company CEOs in violation. No deals no plea bargins 20 years and HUGE fines…Also testing at random to nail any company who might try to sneak something by us
July 7th, 2007 at 9:45 am
Hey, does anyone know ANYTHING about blue seal’s brandon farm’s organic[not all organic] dry dog food, it is sold in the Kroger stores, which I never purchase any kind of petfood from, but this dog food looked like it was pretty reputable. The co. also makes a canned formula, which is certified organic, canned by Evangers. I hope someone can come up with some info. on it, our little pit bull can’t eat a homeade diet [she has come up with some bad colitis] and does better on half and half. Debi
July 7th, 2007 at 10:30 pm
I think this food may have been mentioned before?
Orijen
Has anyone tried it?
No grains,no GMO,human grade ingredients,etc.
Oh , and no outsourcing.Canadian company which knows all its suppliers apparently.
Also available in U.S.
I feed raw but know a number of people who can’t home cook and so am interested for them.If I fed kibble I would be interested for my dogs according to what they *say* their product is.(just feel a tad cynical these days)
http://www.championpetfoods.com/orijen/products/
Lorna
July 7th, 2007 at 11:34 pm
Talking about consumer confidence in the products they buy, Reuters news agency has just released this report saying counterfeir toothpaste from China may be more hareful that first suspected.
Canada, Massachusetts warn consumers on toothpaste
Saturday, July 07, 2007
BOSTON (Reuters) - Health authorities in Canada and Massachusetts are warning consumers of the risk from China-made counterfeit toothpaste after more tainted products were found, deepening concern about the safety of Chinese goods.
Preliminary tests conducted in Canada on counterfeit Colgate toothpaste indicate the fake products may contain even more harmful bacteria than authorities first suspected, Health Canada officials said on Friday.
Canadian authorities urged consumers on June 29 to avoid Chinese toothpaste in the Canadian market because 21 products were found laced with harmful levels of diethylene glycol, an industrial solvent used in some antifreeze products.
New York-based Colgate-Palmolive Co. has said the products are fakes and that it does not use, nor has ever used, diethylene glycol as an ingredient in its toothpaste anywhere in the world. The chemical, also known as DEG and sometimes illegally used as an inexpensive sweetener and thickening agent.
“Consumers who have this counterfeit product are advised to discontinue use immediately and not to use their toothbrush,” a Health Canada statement said of the toothpaste.
Phony products, labeled “Manufactured in South Africa,” include misspellings on their packaging such as “isclinically” “SOUTH AFRLCA” and “South African Dental Assoxiation.”
In Canada, they were found in discount chain “Everything for a Dollar Store.” Health Canada said distributors are cooperating and have removed the product from their shelves.
In Massachusetts, the Department of Public Health said toothpaste suspected to contain a toxic chemical was found in stores in nearly a dozen communities despite a June import alert issued by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.
Local authorities urged consumers to avoid toothpaste labeled “Made in China,” toothpaste labeled “Colgate” that is manufactured in South Africa and toothpaste without English language labeling.
“Despite FDA’s efforts, suspect products continue to be found, including in Massachusetts — mostly in small, independent dollar-type discount stores,” the statement said.
Colgate-Palmolive has said it was working closely with the FDA to identify those responsible.
The warnings come amid growing concern in the United States and Latin America over the safety of Chinese products after a series of recalls and bans on items ranging from children’s toys to toothpaste.
In Panama, 83 people have died after taking medicines contaminated with a Chinese-made toxin last year and the death toll is expected to rise, a senior prosecutor investigating how the medicines became adulterated said on Thursday.
© Reuters 2007
July 8th, 2007 at 1:47 am
Italian health authorities testing possibly tainted toothpaste
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap.....hpaste.php
“Italian authorities have seized a few batches of possibly tainted toothpaste in Florence and other cities in the country’s north, the Health Ministry said Saturday.
The ministry said checks were being carried out across the country on Colgate toothpaste that was without Italian language labeling.
The seizures of the suspicious toothpaste occurred in Genoa and Aosta as well as in the Tuscan capital, the ministry said in a statement. Samples were being analyzed to see if the toothpaste contained dangerous substances.
No further details were immediately available.
Concern over tainted toothpaste spread over the past weeks in some U.S. states and Canada.
U.S. Food and Drug Administration said last month that toothpaste from China and counterfeit Colgate toothpaste may contain diethylene glycol, a chemical used in antifreeze.
This week there have been reports in the Spanish media that tainted toothpaste has been detected in the country.”
http://blogs.courant.com/capit.....othpa.html
Tainted Toothpaste Found in Connecticut
http://www.eagletribune.com/pu.....23150.html
Counterfeit toothpaste purchased at N.H. flea market
http://www.myfoxprovidence.com.....geId=3.2.1
Suspect toothpaste found at R.I. discount store
“Health inspectors removed a toothpaste marketed under the name Dentakleen from a Building 19 store in Pawtucket.”
http://money.cnn.com/2007/07/06/news/toothpaste/
“The warning came on the same day that officials in Panama said they had recorded 540 cases of poisoning linked to toothpaste and other health products in that country.
He said four categories of products were found to be contaminated - cough syrup, toothpaste, calamine lotion and a drug called deifreidamina. He said the products were only available in Panama and there were no exports.”
Now it’s spreading to Canada, more US states, Italy & Spain.
July 8th, 2007 at 10:56 am
The only way that can begin to gain my confidence is when I hear the ANNOUNCEMENTS OF PROSECUTIONS BY STATE AND LOCAL AUTHORITIES for being party to mass poisoning of the food supply.
And by the way, has anyone been to Trader Joe’s lately? I went yesterday, and it seemed to me that there were LESS foods labeled with country of origin than at the height of the recall, not more. This was particularly true in the frozen vegetable section. Has anyone else noticed this?
July 8th, 2007 at 11:46 am
wouldn’t surprise me at all if food companies started removing any origin info they had on the labels (while throwing more money at the Gov to squash COOL!).
I’d like to catch them in the act. Sure would kill the “It would cost too much to implement COOL and the consumers would have to pay $$$” false argument . . . .
*censors self*
July 8th, 2007 at 5:40 pm
Something has changed with Evo. My indoor cats and outdoor cats both loved it until the last bag I used. They didn’t barf but did not devour it as before. The bag was full of crumbs. None of the prior bags were crumbly. I’m having a hard time finding another dry kibble my cat will eat and she relies on dry food for a substantial portion of her calories. She is so small I continue to give her dry to try to keep some weight on her. What is a good dry food that I don’t have to mail order? I need something I can buy local.
July 8th, 2007 at 7:28 pm
The pet food murders have created some awareness of not only the companies that manufacture or contract pet food but also a growing awareness of the “out of control†nature of our food distribution and trade policies.
With this in mind, it was enlightening to find the UK beginning to question these problems as well.
Here is a link regarding local vs. food of unknown origin.
http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/fo.....;html#more
Excerpt:
It is time we faced up to the fact that developing our super-efficient food distribution system has resulted in the complete destruction of our local food infrastructure. Worse than that, the supertanker of centralised commodity distributed food supply is still going in the wrong direction, using the language – category management, food chains and supply chain rationalisation – of an industry which treats food no differently than paint, cars or computers.
Next time you eat some food ask yourself whether you have any chance of finding out from the label who grew it, where they lived, what their farm looked like or how much they got paid: the answer will probably be no. Make no mistake, this is the time for sober reflection on the true cost of that loss. I have reflected, and I’ve reached the conclusion that something must be done.
And here are three books mentioned that are pertinent to our concerns as well (may be published or available in the US):
NOT ON THE LABEL by Felicity Lawrence
COLLAPSE by Jared Diamond
BAD FOOD BRITAIN by Joanna Blythman
July 8th, 2007 at 7:35 pm
I have a feeling the so-called Public Citizen:
Statement by Sidney Wolfe, MD, Director of the Health Research Group at Public Citizen
is more a shill for big pharma — too many keywords found among their propaganda as though they really care for your health.
The PFI does a similar piece of work for Menu Foods and others guiltyof what this forum is about.
An opinion on my part but I research corporate movement and press releases nowadays and find it selfish and irresponsible.
July 8th, 2007 at 8:17 pm
Does anyone know anything about Purina Dog Chow Healthy Morsels? Please let Me know. thanks.
July 8th, 2007 at 10:04 pm
Sharon,
I am getting ready to open a new bag of Evo, and am getting worried. What are the code numbers from your bag? I lost a cat in Jan. after we opened a new bag of Hill’s Prescription c/d. I guess I need to start feeding people food, but even food intended for human consumption does not seem safe these day.
July 9th, 2007 at 12:30 am
Sharon & Janice re EVO. My last bag of EVO was “powdery” at the bottom - even tried running it through a strainer, but it just powdered more. Returned to pet food store whose owner thought it might be a moisture problem. Could be since this a no grain food. Replacemnent bag seems ok and cats have not rejected it; they didn’t like the powdery part in the previous bag which would be a texture preception thing. No adverse reactions in the last two weeks on the replacement bag.
These are two “can & bag” cats that have rejected raw and home cooked so far.
July 9th, 2007 at 1:19 am
The savy food merchants ARE paying attention to their customers. The July issue of COSTCO connection has a four page spread on Earthbound Farm, their organic produce supplier. Even Safeway is popping more and more house label ” Organics” products in almost every department.
Today, in Safeway, I asked the produce person where the unlabeled $.69 green onions came from. Her response was: “Just a minute and I’ll check.” A few minutes later she had found the box labeled Mexico. I quipped it would have saved both of us a lot of time if they had shown origin to begin with, as I grabbed a bunch of organic at almost twice the price. She agreed and added they are now required to stock 60 - 70 organic produce products at all times. She added she gets a lot more questions from customers than she did a few months ago.
Our demands are and will further change the food industry. Thanks to our pet’s, we are no longer complacent consumers.
July 9th, 2007 at 11:09 am
Good choice, Patricia,
Green onions grown in Mexico killed 3 and sickened over 180 people in the eastern U. S. a few years ago. It was a strain of hepatitis, can’t remember which one.
But I would think the 180 people may have ongoing health problems because of liver damage.
I constantly find Mexican grown onions in the grocery stores here in Oregon, and what really frosts my cookies is that it is the time of year that they SHOULD be Oregon grown for sure!
I always ask if it is not labeled, and now my local grocery store has started added a sign with country of origin by the unlabeled veggies.
COOL was passed in the 2002 Farm Bill, but the congressmen getting the big donations from agribusiness have delayed implementation by denying funding quite a few times.
July 9th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
After the whole recall happened I researched every pet food company I could find. I was grading companies on size, manufacturing plants, past reputation, ingredients, etc. The company that came out on top was: FirstMate Pet Foods located in Vancouver, B.C. They use only North American ingredients and make all of their own foods. They don’t have canned food, because they don’t have a cannery. Their Ultra Premium line has no wheat, corn, soy, or by-products.
I switched my Lab to the Potato and Fish in March and he has never done better. They just came out with a new Grain - free cat food (fish, potato, with blueberries) and my cats seem to really like it. I have had a good experience with FirstMate (www.firstmate.com) over the last 3 months. What are other people’s impressions of FirstMate?
July 9th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
Sharon - Are you in WA or OR? I know FirstMate is sold in many stores in those states. Here is a link to the new cat food I was talking about:
http://firstmate.com/cat/fishPotatoCat.htm
Hope this helps!
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