Itchmo Banned in China
Yes, Itchmo has been banned in China. Throughout the recalls, we had concerned readers in China who have been contacting us about the state of industry over there and how their pets may have died from poisons as well. We wish Chinese pet parents the best and good luck. They deserve just as good pet and human food as the rest of us (among other things). We know you can’t see this, but our thoughts and prayers are with you.
In other news, ironically, the Chinese media is beginning to report on the companies that supplied tainted products to the US. UPDATE: The article in the China Daily disappeared. Here’s a similar Reuters article.
(Thanks deb and sue)
May 11th, 2007 at 4:35 pm
So much for free trade then! They can send us crap, kill our pets, poison us, but they’ll ban this site. All the more reason to ban their garbage and boycott them. I don’t even order Chinese anymore. From the articles I’ve seen people post here about what goes on over there I really can’t believe our government favors them so much. Just the fact that they spiked the wheat flour (not even gluten…double rip-off) should make us want to ban their stuff.
Going back to the Kahlua for my aching neck from shaking my head so much. Maybe if my head could just explode it would ease some of the painl
May 11th, 2007 at 4:43 pm
No irony. It is (in Chinese cultural terms) a direct response. “Don’t even think about banning Chinese products. You are in no position to point fingers.”
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again:
–China owns a large portion of the U.S. debt financing the Iraq war;
–China is the largest untapped consumer market (aside from India) in the world, and as income rises, consumer demand is expected to rise as well
–the U.S. has outsourced the majority of its agricultural production and manufacturing capacity and can no longer produce enough of its own food and products.
For all the above reasons–the U.S. is afraid to ban Chinese products, including food products.
May 11th, 2007 at 4:43 pm
“I don’t even order Chinese anymore.”
I simply don’t get that. Chinese restaurants are not the Chinese government. They are Chinese-Americans who have restaurants.
May 11th, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Debbie4747,
Hey There! Bar opens in about an hour here. I may even have a Bulldog myself today. I’m sure the Kahlua will somewhat numb exploding head pain. (I’m going to email you for that Kahlua Balls recipe. Be looking.)
No surprise Itchmo was banned. It IS a communist country.
May 11th, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Traci
““I don’t even order Chinese anymore.â€
I simply don’t get that. Chinese restaurants are not the Chinese government. They are Chinese-Americans who have restaurants.”
They would be the most likely to purchase the chickens or whatever from China that come in marked something else. This whole thing has me questioning just where all our ingredients come from. From some of the articles people have posted here, I have seen where some products come in marked as a different product. I know we can’t shield ourselves entirely from garbage but we can be wary.
ITCHMO ADMIN: Debbie, your remarks concern me deeply. The restaurant business is about freshness. Chinese-Americans buy fresh produce from the same sources as other restaurants. It makes no sense that they would go out of their way to buy chickens shipped all they way from China. If you want to talk ingredients, in fact, one of the largest producers in the world of rice is California. Please do not assume or generalize against your own fellow Americans.
May 11th, 2007 at 4:52 pm
“They would be the most likely to purchase the chickens or whatever from China that come in marked something else. ”
Really, how do you know this. Please cite some evidence.
May 11th, 2007 at 4:53 pm
I think we also therefore boycott firework displays on the 4th.
May 11th, 2007 at 4:56 pm
Genny,
Yes! Email me and I will definitely get you that recipe this weekend. You’ll love them..and they’re not really that hard to make, just a little time consuming and messy. Just pretend you’re a kid again!
Lola,
You’ve made some very good points on how indebted indebted our goverment is to China; but it’s our governemt…not us. I don’t recall asking to be put in this position where my meals come from China or worse yet I may eventually kill my pet because we keep bringing in their crap.
May 11th, 2007 at 5:02 pm
Boycot China across the board. No demand. No supply. No crap.
Just my opinion.
May 11th, 2007 at 5:03 pm
Traci,
The articles are throught the thread on this board. I’m not looking for them. If you are interested, please look through the threads yourself. I merely stated an opinion, or a little rant if you will. You seem to want to start something withme over it. You can’t. You post what you want and I’ll post what I want. You may eat all the Chinese melamine, cyanuric acid garbage you like and promote whatever corporate bs that pleases you….
And question, just out of curiosity…are you the admin for a certain cat health board? You’re really sounding alot like her. But I’d love to stay and play bur time’s up at work and I gotta go. Bon appetite!
May 11th, 2007 at 5:11 pm
from the linked article:
The firms evaded quality checks by labeling the products as export items, which are not subject to domestic quality inspections.
didn’t Goldy post a pic on his blog (or was it someone here or at PC?) where they showed a bag of WG and it was clearly labeled Wheat Gluten? or was the gluten from another source?
May 11th, 2007 at 5:13 pm
found it:
http://www.horsesass.org/?p=2899
so who repacked the Melamine between here and China?
May 11th, 2007 at 5:19 pm
The good news is that this site was obvioulsy being read in China by the masses and having an effect. Otherwise it would not have been banned. At least the Chinese people were able to read to this point which I am sure was very helpful to them.
This site has helped so many people save their pets and understand what the heck is really going on with our food and pet food. Thank you!
For so many years we heard from the “extremists” don’t eat processed foods, there are chemicals, toxins, unhealthy additives, our fish are contaminated, our chickens, cows, the milk we drink etc are full of this and that, etc. etc. Well they were right. You hear it all but you don’t REALLY hear it. I just wish I had listened sooner and educated myself earlier.
May 11th, 2007 at 5:20 pm
Of course.. Last thing the corrupt Chinese Government wants is their people who are being exploited in the worst manner ever by unrestricted free trade and predatory capitalism to know the truth.
No surprise there.
May 11th, 2007 at 5:21 pm
“The good news is that this site was obvioulsy being read in China by the masses and having an effect. Otherwise it would not have been banned. At least the Chinese people were able to read to this point which I am sure was very helpful to them.”
I am curious if there is a way around this. I am not so computer savvy as to have an answer. But perhaps some kind of relay, an internet “middleman.”
?
ITCHMO ADMIN: The answer is yes. But in China, you do so at your own risk.
May 11th, 2007 at 5:26 pm
Petconnection is banned as well. You can test any link in the link above and it will tell you if it is banned. Petconnection came back blocked also. I will bet they blocked all sites that are reporting on this story in any way that is unfavorable to the Chinese government.
May 11th, 2007 at 5:27 pm
Debbie, you’ve made the bizarre statement that Chinese restaurants in the US, owned and run by Chinese-AMERICANS, “most likely” purchase chickens “and whatever” from China–that come in labeled as something else. In fact, though, they’re RESTAURANTS; they’re selling the eating experience, and major ingredients that aren’t fresh, um, detract from that. They are also small businesses; it’s just not that easy for them to participate in the global markets on the scale that makes it cheaper to ship something half-way around the world than to buy it locally. California’s one of the largest rice producers in the world. Fortune cookies, a staple of Chinese-AMERICAN restaurants, are an American product–Hong Kong restaurants import them from the USA. Plus, restaurants get a much bigger boost than supermarkets do from being able to say “Purchased this morning at [insert local fresh market here.]
The things to view with suspicion are the packaged and processed foods at your local supermarket. Or, indeed, the fireworks, mostly likely a product of China.
May 11th, 2007 at 5:29 pm
Deep breath everyone…
Let’s focus on the people we need to influence to get the situation changed. Bickering among ourselves is not productive and just uses up energy that could be better spent writing to our legislators.
Yes, boycotting chinese restaurants seems a little silly - but hey, I am angry enough over the situation to be a little silly about it, too. My thought was that the kung pao was probably melachicken, so I would take a pass.
And while Lola may be right that the US is just too far down the garden path to switch paths, but that perspective is just so defeatist - you can’t win so don’t even try to play??? Sorry, if I live that way I might as well just break out the SSRI’s and give in to full-blown clinical depression. We are AMERICA - we define innovation and can-do. Please don’t tell me to quit without even trying, it isn’t in my DNA.
I know, logically, that little ol’ me not buying products made in China, not shopping at Wal-Mart (not that I did before the expose), or Target, not eating supermarket chicken or pork or fish, not buying my clothes at Ross isn’t going to make the slightest dent in the GNP of China, the trade deficit or even make one bit of hoo-ha in the grand scheme of things.
But what it WILL do is make me feel better. Because all I can do is make a personal statement and live it, and communicate why I have made those choices and encourage (not harangue or nag or dictate) others to do likewise. That is all I can do. And if we all do it - it just might be enough.
May 11th, 2007 at 5:31 pm
Being reported as banned means…nothing. Really.
The website for the CPA firm I work for comes back as banned. OH please. It means that the Chinese Government bans alot of stuff without regard to content - just because of the location of the originating server (ie - the US).
May 11th, 2007 at 5:35 pm
I can kind of see where Debbie is coming from. I know Mexican restaurants use a lot of ingredients from Mexico & I’m sure Chinese restaurants & delis do also–just go look at the labels in the ehtnic sections of your grocery store. Many of those specialty items that are added to those foods are from those countries.
HOWEVER, I would also be willing to bet that if you go into any good ol’ American roadside cafe & order standard fare that at least some part of THAT meal will also have Chinese ingredients. One good (I suppose you could call it that) thing that has come out of this insanity is everyone has had the opportunity to realize that we just don’t know where the raw ingredients for our food, supplements, medicines, etc. are being produced anymore, or under what conditions. Now we are beginning to be aware of the extent of this.
So the key is trying to find out where everything is made & go with what you feel is safe (if there is such a word anymore). I doubt we will ever get clear labeling telling what is contaminated, but what I do hope will come out of this is that the companies that are NOT using any of this will advertise that they have safe products. Then we can choose those products. I’m sure that will be somewhat profit motivated for them, but maybe it will lead to safer products for us. This could be a good outcome of all this.
May 11th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
Whatever.
U.S. considers opening chicken market to China
The U.S. government is working on a proposal to allow chickens raised, slaughtered and cooked in China to be sold in the United States, and under current regulations, store labels do not have to indicate the origin of the poultry.
http://www.iht.com/articles/20.....hicken.php
May 11th, 2007 at 5:45 pm
Sincere congratulations! It is the highest honor to be banned by a subversive government. You join a long list of people the Chinese/Bush government has banned, including the Dalai Lama.
Being banned in China is going to make Itchmo incredibly popular over there, with the Chinese people, who are as much victims of this as we are. They know ways around the ban…
May 11th, 2007 at 5:45 pm
Petslave,
re: Mexican restaurants. Exactly. I was about to post something similar but didn’t want to start a war of words but since you mentioned it……
I live 3 hours from the Mexican border. I have many, many Mexican friends. I know that a lot of produce and other products are traded with, under the covers if you will, and brought into the US by restauarant owners, compadres and familias, without getting checked and many, many illegal aliens work in these restaurants for their compadres and familias.
May 11th, 2007 at 5:45 pm
I wonder what part Goggle and Yahoo have in this banning.
May 11th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
Mmm… Asian food. Love it. But like any food/food product, I’m more careful these days about where things come from. These days, there are no guarantees, so just try to make the best choices you can.
The restaurant quality “issue” could also hinge on where one lives/dines. I know the Asian (and other) restaurants I’ve dined at in the San Francisco Bay Area had far nicer, fresher, sometimes “organic” ingredients, and the sauces seemed made at the restaurant from ingredients on hand, not from a jar. Same thing goes for other larger cities I’ve visited. However, if I attempt “Chinese” food from my local small-town take-away, I’m usually not so confident I’m eating the best quality ingredients.
(It’s not like one can “taste” the melamine-tainted chicken and gluten and soy and…)
May 11th, 2007 at 6:02 pm
Itchmo, It’s because you do such a good job. thank you, i don’t where We’d be without you. you are remarkable!!!!!!!!!!
May 11th, 2007 at 6:08 pm
My friend I private message with and I are testing links–EVERYTHING is banned (well not everything) here is what we have been trying and bombing on:
anything with open forums–such as tribes, yahoo, weight watchers
wiki
all my friend’s bookmarks are banned
her friend’s CO Avalanche forum
http://www.duirwaighgallery.com/
“but jdorama didn’t and that’s a site with ASIAN DRAMAS” (an American site not a Japanese owned one)
yahoo, google and altavista search
a pretty and cute tame site–one on Eeyore
my (another) friend’s HIV info site hosted by Tripod
disney.com
espn
firefox
Okay for viewing:
so far Babelfish and the official Sesame Street website
May 11th, 2007 at 6:10 pm
oh and another friend’s personal cyber-gaming page
http://www.keepontheborderlands.org/
Seems it’s rare they allow anything at all.
May 11th, 2007 at 6:16 pm
Congratulations, Ben!
May 11th, 2007 at 6:19 pm
lol the link I last ordered from to get my Mary Janes is banned
http://www.chinadirectstore.com/women_shoes.htm
Here is the Wikipedia on all this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C.....the_People’s_Republic_of_China
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.....the_People’s_Republic_of_China
May 11th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
Oh yeah congrats! When you get banned you know your doing something noble in most cases like this.
May 11th, 2007 at 6:23 pm
Congrats Itchmo!! Banning means you have…er…had impact!!
May 11th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
I was soooo jealous! But we’re banned, too!
If you didn’t laugh, you’d cry …
May 11th, 2007 at 7:09 pm
Although I’m upset - one very sick dog and one already gone - I would rather read comments that are productive, helpful and not shrill. I was glad to see a comment by Gail (?) because it reminds me of how to live: Ghandi said it, be the change you want to see. Certainly, thoughtful use of our buying power is a gesture, but perhaps it will lead to another and another friend who will choose carefully. This is how change happens, learn, do, teach. And it’s forever, friends, not until we get distracted or bored or “too busy”. It’s the least I can do for my pups, the innocent victims of business as usual.
May 11th, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Itchmo, and whoever was offended by my not having much of a desire for Chinese food anymore. I am sorry. But keep in mind, that when you’re all banning Chinese products and not going to Walmart, you are hurting Americans too. Don’t we have Americans working in Walmart, and a few left over to assemble the parts from China or wherever at the few remaining manufacturing plants we have.
With all the food scare and everyone wanting to ban everything Chinese, I really just can’t muster an appetite for the food.
Sorry.
But go ahead and give give me hell for it. Itchmo admin, one question though. I understand your concerns here. You’re doing a fabulous job of keeping us all updated. But where you the other night when we had that really long, yet fun thread where we were talking about Kahlua and such and then some poster inferred that she’s bet some of us were drinkers, smokers and overweight yet we’re concerned about what’s in the meats we eat or feed our pets. Some of your posters and readers have sick pets or dead pets from the wonderful stuff we get from China. That was nasty. Yet you let that one go. At the end of her post she stated that she felt good. Wish I could say the same.
May 11th, 2007 at 7:59 pm
Guess what!!! PNV2 is blocked too lol
May 11th, 2007 at 8:13 pm
I feel sorry for the people in China they are being screwed out of good info and news ..they love their pets too…Good and bad in every country ..I have a friend who runs a Cantonese resturaunt…..SHE HAS NEVER been to China she was born here..They are very picky on what food they serve..I love it
Itchomo its sad but kind of cool in an odd way that you were banned it means YOU made a difference and are bugging the bad people over there…
May 11th, 2007 at 8:28 pm
I’m not allergic to alcoholic beverages, have been known to smoke a cigarette (outside) a couple of times a year, I *am* overweight and yes, I’m terribly concerned about what’s in my pet’s food.
Interestingly, I am neither offended by the suggestion that drinking, smoking and a high BMI make me a hypocritical in my concern for my pet, nor am I offended that some posters think smoking (although I do think smoking is icky and unhealthy) and being overweight (that too) are inherently insulting things to do/be.
Interestingly, my pet does not smoke, does not drink alcoholic beverages, and she is not overweight. I am concerned, however, that she may have been forced to become a melamine “ho” while my back was turned — and *that* offends me.
May 11th, 2007 at 8:36 pm
…and *that* was an attempt at snarky humor. I hope I did not offend.
[As long as you’re not banned in the USA, Itchmo, I think the collective “we” have a fighting chance… Long live ITCHMO!]
May 11th, 2007 at 8:37 pm
Pit Bull Lover: Well said! :)
May 11th, 2007 at 8:38 pm
How do you find out that these sites have been banned in China? I’d like to see the list.
May 11th, 2007 at 8:41 pm
Beth— http://www.greatfirewallofchina.org/
You just type in the web address and it checks to see if it’s blocked
May 11th, 2007 at 9:01 pm
[…] wonder if, like itchmo.com and this site, FDA.gov is also blocked in China? Nope — just tested it, and it gets through […]
May 11th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
I’m in Hong Kong, which although officially part of China, is still under a separate internet (and government) system so thank Goodness I can still get this website. The pet-food coverage problem has been VERY slow to come out here. Yes, we’re finally seeing some reporting on the melamine issue, but there’s still alot of recalled pet-food on the shelves (I’ve been around shops trying to get rid of them). Also, like everything here, no food issue gets reported unless it gets critical. The intense pressure from the FDA & US is the only reason this melamine-issue is getting any traction.
By the way, pork is on “sale” at the moment in our supermarket and there’s been almost zero updates since the story about pigs dying in South China…swept under the carpet by the government unfortunately.
May 11th, 2007 at 9:20 pm
In all this………….where the H*LL is an apology. I’ve been waiting.
Don’t you think that the manufacterer’s of that crap, and the companies
in North America that included it and sold it to US owe us a HUGE apology?
Where is our apology from China?
Did I miss it somehow? Sorry, but until I read a sincere aplology and see things changed, I won’t forgive, and I won’t forget, and I will be ever vigilant to not let if happen again, and if that means reading every
fricken label, and avoiding Chinese foodstuffs and buying domestic made
I will make every effort to do so.
One small dent. So be it. I’ll make my dent one day at a time.
I am angry! I feel betrayed & cheated, and I know I am not alone.
As for people working at Wallmart, tuff nuts, get another job. They did not seem to give a damn about the Mom & Pop stores they would be helping to kill off when they were filling in their application, why should I feel bad for not shopping there?
jmho.
May 11th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
As far as Walmart goes, most of their stuff does come from China. we have to stand up for our pets. they can’t die in vain. My daughter works at Walmart and She won’t even buy anything from there now. This is supposed to be a free country. We need the answers now! And We have every right as tax paying citizens to demand where our food comes from. And where everything in it comes from. that’s why so many wars. so We can be a free country and We are also the Government,[or supposed to be]. For the people, etc. hahaha. Stand up for freedom.
May 11th, 2007 at 9:48 pm
Ebay is an available site according to the Great Wall.
May 11th, 2007 at 9:51 pm
Yes, 7dogMum, I think we’re owed an apology from lots of companies and individuals. And I’m even one of the lucky ones whose dog is, fingers crossed, okay. I don’t think “they” realize there will eventually be hell and million$ in evaporated profit$ to pay once we’ve finished digging the truth out from under the rug. We’re still in the middle of the earthquake; the tsunami hasn’t really gotten going yet.
May 11th, 2007 at 10:05 pm
Why would China ban Itchmo if they were not at fault? IMO, They must know something they dont want their own to know.
May 11th, 2007 at 10:12 pm
haven’t been to this site in a while, but what do i read but the same old itchmo sticking up for the same know it all traci and bashing debbie4747. yes bashing. traci can say whatever she wants and never is picked on. well at least not by itchmo. wondering whats going on there?????????
well debbie4747 i’m with you starting with your first blog. here’s why:
its common knowledge, except for itchmo and traci, that chinese or any peoples of foreign cultures who establish themselves in america, especially with wealth, send money to their poor families in their respective native countries. ok, nothing wrong with that particularly on the surface.
but let’s move on with an example, my own grandmother used to send clothes and unperishable foods to her folks in poland. she would put money for them deep in the coffee of coffee jars. the folks never got the money because the communists used to search everything thoroughly and took the money.
so itchmo and traci, tell us now that the chinese-american restaurant owners don’t send money, probably attempted to be hidden, to the folks back home to communist controlled china. its a common cultural practice. who knows who really gets it, and for what purpose it goes for. could it be for anti-american purposes?????
want more? a jordanian moved here, married an american girl. great guy. great job. yep, all-american patriot. sending money back home to the “folks,” a common cultural practice. guess what? recently deported to jordan for financing terrorists big time in jordan. kept getting big loans from lots of banks here.
yep, debbie4747, the next time peope eat in chinese restaurants, they can consider part of the profits eventually ending up in the hands of the chinese communists. the communists get it one way or another. it has to be converted into yen, probably by a communist money exchanger.
oh more. i worked in a hospital and saw a few people come in sick from eating chinese food. they are not all caught up with american restaurant health standards. just had to let you know that itchmo
going back to my intelligent sites
ITCHMO ADMIN: Goodness gracious. For the record, I am not bashing anyone. In fact, Deb and I have corresponded many times and I certainly don’t doubt her good intentions. I just don’t want to see anyone coming off as stereotyping. Also, it’s yuan, not yen. Yen is Japanese. Yuan is Chinese. I don’t usually make statements like this, but Dom, if you believe that eating at a Chinese restaurant is financing communism in China, please go to another site. Please learn to separate the people from their oppressive governments.
May 11th, 2007 at 10:27 pm
“the next time peope eat in chinese restaurants, they can consider part of the profits eventually ending up in the hands of the chinese communists”
chinese communists? [Sorry, but…] AAAAAHHHHAHAHAHAHAHA!
May 11th, 2007 at 10:48 pm
People,
i suspect the “end” is near.. i’l offer this advice, beware the death throes
of the dragon?
you can’t “help”without being at risk? it’s a lesson learned…
the land is poisoned, and it’s people are less than a thought to it’s goverment?
end trade with communist china..
May 11th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
Itchmo, a BIG WELL DONE..
from this vietnam Marine.
my thanks, johnypaycut
May 11th, 2007 at 10:56 pm
EEEKS! Well said Johnypaycut. It’s frightening.
May 11th, 2007 at 11:17 pm
Thought i’d offer some food for thought.
if china has so much control over the u.s. , how come it bans any site that
confronts its doctrine?
why do so many die in china? it’s ecology is toxic.. it’s water is disapearing,
no end to lawlessness is ever seen.
no end to criminal activity? it will grow worse..
it only has the money it took from the u.s. through exploiting every opertunity it saw. a few decades ago it was a minor power. it has limits?
and their being reached, it will not remain a monster, i predict it is going to
fail!
but it may be a very nasty process?
May 11th, 2007 at 11:34 pm
I just LUV the Itchmo Ban!
I feel all safe and warm and cozy Now!
If you Ever want lessons on how to, “Cover yer Butt”
ask China’s Government!
{hear That Corporations?!}
I say Raspberries! {:-þþþþþþþ
{my re-post to the Ban from another thread}
May 12th, 2007 at 12:11 am
Itchmo Admin, you are so even-keeled. (”Goodness gracious.”) I’m in awe.
May 12th, 2007 at 1:47 am
My blog is banned in China, too. But it was long before the recalls. They just ban a TON of websites for seemingly trivial or absurd reasons. I think mine got banned for vulgar language.
May 12th, 2007 at 1:47 am
I am ashamed of myself. My site isn’t banned in China yet. I’ll have to try harder.
May 12th, 2007 at 2:02 am
Ha! If China banned Itchmo, they show even more than they have already that THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE!
May 12th, 2007 at 7:01 pm
I’d think that the Chinese ‘restaurants’ associated with major groceries might be the ones to be more wary of, and the fast food chains like Panda Express, rather than the small, local places. Might still take me a while to desire to eat Chinese as much as I used to, tho.
Maybe we can’t avoid it all, but we can at least protect ourselves and our own, and maybe if everyone did that things would right themselves. :)
May 12th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
This site is not banned in China. I’m in China right now and I’m looking at it, no problems.
ITCHMO ADMIN: Your IP shows that you are being routed through an Australian ISP.
May 12th, 2007 at 11:32 pm
Does anyone ever check anything out like a reporter should. I think the site with all the so-called “banned” urls is totally bogus. I put the url of a small RV dealer in, as well as some very small local businesses, and they all came back “banned.” Don’t believe everything someone passes along on a blog.
ITCHMO ADMIN: We do check these things. We were not banned a few weeks ago. Now we are.
May 13th, 2007 at 7:31 am
Soooooo….
Why is it the U.S. can do business with a massive, communist regime like China, put the health and welfare of our pets (and us!) in jeopardy, but we still have a rock-solid trade and travel embargo on Cuba after 50+ years?
Oh, that’s right. Cuba doesn’t have trillions of $ to bail us out and tens of thousands of peasants to make stuff for Wallyworld for pennies. Hmm.
It all always goes back to the money, doesn’t it.
May 13th, 2007 at 2:54 pm
I’m surprised this site hasn’t been banned here. You better believe we are being watched.
May 14th, 2007 at 10:10 am
I doubt really that Chinese restaurants would get chicken and meats all the way from china! I had always under stood that they used fresh dogs and cats from right here in the USA?
I kid, I kid! ;-)
May 15th, 2007 at 10:35 am
Itchmo, this is the previous anonymous poster here- once again, this site is *not* banned in China. I live in Xi’an. I’m seeing my IP as 222.90.142.103- definitely not Australia.
June 1st, 2007 at 1:14 am
I find that could be an Itchy or scratchy situation!
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August 18th, 2007 at 11:53 pm
I learned not to confuse the Chinese people with the Chinese government. I was in China in April. I had no choice. I run interference for my mother in airports as she’s pretty tiny. We were scheduled to go on a cruise. So off I went, leaving behind two dogs, a cat, a ton of organic food for them and a very careful sitter. The Net on the ship transmits to satellite.We were jammed from the moment we got near land until we were out of range again Until we caught on,some of us were trying to use the ships computers and having our terminals lock up, accounts open and no activity. One man had a Listserv going. I raised hell until I got a credit. But, I also got lost in Shanghai and survived it by staying only in areas that were familiar,not speaking to anyone, and lucking out: I found a man in a T shirt shop who called the police for me because they spoke English. It got complicated from there, but obviously, everything worked out.They were helpful and even gave me a small paper cup of hot water.Getting driven to a ship by police car is quite a treat.The guys on the gangway looked at me What?? The police whistled. I turned around and all four officers were standing in front of their car with big grins on their faces. I wished that I could have taken a picture.
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