EXCLUSIVE: Lab Reports Cyanuric Acid In Unrecalled Dry Food

UPDATE: The company that tested the food requested that we remove the image of the report from this post after being contacted by Proctor & Gamble, the parent company of Iams.

UPDATE 2: We received a call from an Iams spokesman. We have updated the story with their response.

UPDATE 3: We believe the bags in question are located in the Denver area.

ORIGINAL POST: Itchmo has learned that a toxicology test reported the presence of cyanuric acid in an opened bag of what is alleged to be Iams Large Breed dry dog food.

According to the report obtained by Itchmo, the results have been certified by a forensic toxicologist. We have obtained a copy of the toxicology report. Iams Large Breed does not list rice protein concentrate or wheat gluten as ingredients.

In response, Iams says they are “fully confident” that no cyanuric acid or melamine entered their products. They also defended their “exceptional response” to handling customer complaints. When asked if they were testing for melamine and cyanuric acid after the manufacture of their products, Iams said that they were “constantly improving their quality control processes.”

We cannot stress this point enough: This test was performed on a sample from an opened bag. We do not know if this is an isolated case of contamination before or after the sale, or if it is widespread.

This information requires verification and we are asking for your help.

Itchmo is asking you to find an unopened 20 lb. bag of Iams Large Breed dry dog food that matches the lot number: 260608 70574173 F4 US30940 with the expiration date of 6/26/08.

If you find an unopened bag, please email us at tips@itchmo.com and we will provide further instructions. If it’s the right bag, we will pay for the cost of the bag of food, shipping and testing. There will be no cost to you.

If an unopened bag is found and tested, we will release the results as soon as they become available regardless of the outcome.

451 Responses to “EXCLUSIVE: Lab Reports Cyanuric Acid In Unrecalled Dry Food”

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  1. Kiki says:

    Colgate says they do not import toothpaste from China well here are some of their plants in China: http:/www.mindbranch.com/prod-toc/Toothpaste-R263-26991
    READ ON….

    GONE!!!!! They took the info down… Did anyone save the website?

  2. Katie says:

    found this article on “KIDNEY DIETS”….might be useful for the lady looking for an alternative to the kidney diet suggested by her vet.

  3. ally says:

    It’s responses such as this update that ensure I will never buy a P&G product again. You may have forced Itch to remove the image but you can’t erase the minds of who saw it no matter how much you wish it so.

    Spread the word peoples. You know…..through the troublesome blogger pipeline? Don’t forget to alert your favorite journalists about this too. The truth is out there. ;-)

  4. slt says:

    Is Proctor & Gamble going to try and strongarm every lab in the country NOT to test their foods? Come on! Your lawyer scare tactics may work on some poor lab P & G but they won’t work on the pet owning public. Boycott!

  5. Leslie k says:

    I talked to a Nicole at Wellness today.Wanted to know if they could put on their website that the manufacturers they use have had no recalls. She said no, they use ANI for some of their dry food. She said they keep samples of all ingredients & of each batch & tested them. Everything on the shelves should be safe. When I asked why some other co’s have had cross contamination she said they run only their food for 18 hrs & have an employee there to make sure the machines are cleaned. Sounds good but isn’t that something we’ve heard before other recalls? I asked if they are looking for a new facility; & she said no.It’s a shame ,my dogs & cats liked their dry but I won’t be buying it again.

  6. slt says:

    ally - great minds think alike (and at exactly the same time, hehe)
    P & G - you can threaten but you can’t hide!

  7. Leslie k says:

    Forgot to add that Timberwolf did put something up. They say they used to use Diamond but switched. Nowhere does it say the new facility hasn’t had recalls. Guess that means Chenango. Cross off another food !

  8. Leslie k says:

    I also called Arm & Hammer about their toothpaste. They say it is made in the USA & all ingredients also. Anyone know anything different ?

  9. Cattle Dog says:

    Most pet food companies usually cannot list their ingredient sources because they constantly change due to price fluctuations. I used to work in a feed mill. They buy in whatever is cheapest at the time and so the “recipe” can change a little. That is why they just guarantee a minimum in most categories. I feed basically a raw diet - but at this time, I am glad that the only manufatured dry food that goes down my dogs throut is manufactured by Natura - EVO.

  10. Kiki says:

    BOYCOTT ALL THESE MULTI-NATIONALS - Those people will rot in hell for all the pain and suffering they have caused in the name of increasing margins.

    http://www.pandgkills.com/main.html

    Each year, thousands of animals die in Procter & Gamble laboratories — the victims of painful, archaic and entirely unnecessary product tests. Caustic chemicals are forced into the eyes of rabbits and applied to animals’ shaved and raw skin.

    Laboratory workers place the animals in restraining devices so they cannot struggle while the workers apply the chemicals, which burn into the animals’ eyes and skin. P&G “scientists” do not sedate the animals or give them pain killers.

    Animals sometimes break their necks or backs attempting to escape the pain. Those that survive are used in yet additional painful tests … until they are finally killed. The victims include rabbits, guinea pigs, hamsters, ferrets and other animals.

    P&G refuses to stop testing its products on animals, despite the fact that these tests are not required by any law, and despite the fact that more reliable and humane alternatives do exist.

    Procter & Gamble spends millions of dollars to package itself as a responsible, caring company, and claims to be a leader in the development of alternatives to the use of animals in product testing.

    But P&G refuses to put its money where its mouth is. In 2004 alone, P&G spent $3 billion on advertising. This stands in stark contrast to the $64 million that P&G claims to have spent on developing alternatives over a 14-year period!

    Despite its repeated P.R. claims about being in the forefront of developing alternatives and reducing product testing on animals, P&G’s priorities seem clear: in less than 5 days, P&G spends more on advertising than it claims to have spent in 14 years on alternatives to painful and lethal animal tests.

    The fact is, P&G says one thing and does another. If they truly shared our goal of eliminating animal cruelty, P&G would not have lobbied to defeat a bill before the California legislature that would have banned the infamous Draize eye-irritancy test.

    In reality, P&G relies on these archaic tests strictly for its own protection from liability lawsuits. The truth is that P&G could stop animal testing today without hindering anyone’s safety. Until it stops its animal cruelty, the letters P&G will stand for nothing but Pain & Greed

  11. straybaby says:

    anna_2007,

    thank you for that info. I’m in Williamsburg and the only day that was *really* bad was the 13th. It was a nice day and I had left all my windows open (my kitchen windows look out to where the towers were). When i was taking the subway home that night, as we hit 23rd st, the subways started smelling and you could see the smoke. At 14th street it was bad when I got off to transfer. It was like they had just put out a rather large fire there. When I got home, I immediately noticed the smell in my apt. Within 30-45 minutes I couldn’t speak. Had lost my voice. My throat felt like I was breathing glass sand. I had baby saline solutions, so I flushed the cats eyes and noses. My LL told me the next day he had called the fire dept because so much smoke was in his apt and he couldn’t tell where it was coming from (he’s a retired nypd dective, not easily alarmed) 4 of my 7 cats have died. all within a year of each other from fall 2004 to fall 2005. One unknown (3yrs old), one possible embolism (10yrs old) and the 2 seniors who were never sick a day in their lives at 18.5 yrs (I really thought they would hit the 20yr mark when they turned 18. They literally looked about 8-10yrs old). One from suspected Bladder Cancer and the other from Lymphoma. I suspect (believe) it may have been fate, but there’s that little bit of doubt (especially the embolism) as I still have 3 pre 911 cats. My dog and 2 younger cats are thankfully post 911 babies. Now, as long as the (human) food doesn’t kill them . . .

  12. DMS says:

    re: Furmom, If I were a really cynical person, I might look at all these events and think, what would I

    Now extrapolate that to the FDA/USDA and human food. I think this whole picture is slowly coming into focus. We are eating the evidence as well as our pets.

  13. Kiki says:

    BOYCOTT P&G FOREVER - THESE PEOPLE WILL ROT IN HELL.

    Oral Statement Presented at Procter & Gamble Shareholders’ Meeting
    October 10, 2000

    My name is Bill Lauterwasser and I am speaking on behalf of shareholder Tim Huesken as well as the national organization In Defense of Animals, also a shareholder in Procter and Gamble. I would like to take this opportunity to remind you about another side of P&G’s business. Every year, thousands of rabbits, ferrets, Guinea pigs, hamsters, rats and mice are killed to test cosmetic and household products. P&G engages in these tests despite the fact that they are not required by law and despite the fact that more reliable and humane alternatives do exist.

    Chemicals are placed into the eyes of conscious rabbits. Rabbits are placed in stocks from which only their heads protrude so that they cannot dislodge the substance with their paws. Rabbits have no tear ducts to clean the irritants away and plastic clips are attached to their eyelids so they cannot blink their eyes for relief. The rabbits often scream when the substance is applied and sometimes break their neck or back in an effort to escape the pain. Often they receive no anesthesia during these tests.

    Reactions to the substances include swollen eyelids, inflamed irises, ulceration, bleeding and blindness. When the test is finished the animals are killed or “recycled”: for future tests such as skin irritancy tests.

    Skin irritancy tests are conducted on rabbits, guinea pigs and other animals and involve placing chemicals on the animals’ raw shaved skin and covering the skin with adhesive plaster. The animals are kept immobilized in restraining devices to prevent them from struggling while laboratory workers apply the chemicals which burns the animals’ skin.

    These are just two of the tests conducted that are not required by law.

    In 1999, Procter & Gamble announced that they would halt animal testing on its current products. What they downplayed, however, was the fact that testing would continue on “new-to-the-world” products and products whose ingredients are changed or altered. P&G states on their website that the “new to the world” products are expanding rapidly. This means thousands of animals continue to die in Procter & Gamble laboratories — the victims of painful, archaic and entirely unnecessary product tests.

    Procter & Gamble spends millions of dollars to package itself as a responsible, caring company, and claims to be a leader in the development of alternatives to the use of animals in product testing. But in less than 5 days, P&G spends more on advertising than it claims to have spent in 14 years on alternatives to painful and lethal animal tests.

    We feel you as shareholders should be aware of this cruel and inhumane aspect of P&G and of the fact that an alliance of animal protection organizations around the world have joined the global campaign against P&G’s continued abuse of animals. We urge you as shareholders to do what you can to influence P&G to stop the suffering and killing of innocent
    animals and join the hundreds of cruelty-free companies, including corporate giants as Revlon and Avon, who no longer test on animals.

    Please call P&G’s CEO and let him know you want the suffering and killing to stop.

    Thank you.

  14. Janet says:

    Helen Says:

    May 24th, 2007 at 6:37 pm
    Has anyone had a pet eat DRY food and immediately die? Seems like immediate death is more common with the canned food, and longer wasting illness with the dry, based on reports I have been reading. If the dry food poisoning is slow, it is then harder to recognize, and therefore companies have been “getting away with” not recalling it. My cat’s dry food illness was slow in progression and she recovered when the food was removed. Anyone?

    Helen,
    This is a great observation. I believe my cat suffered acute renal problems from eating a non-recalled product containing rice gluten.
    I have since taken her off that wet food but she has continued to eat the dry food she craves. Little improvement in her condition and I’ve been suspicious of the effects the dry food is having on her .
    I have yanked her dry food, as of today, and we’ll see if she begins to improve.

  15. straybaby says:

    Leslie k,

    I checked them out as they make oxi-clean. everything i could find said they were a US corp not owned by one of the other biggies. I forgot to check where things were made though. I was in my Boycott the P&G’s etc. mode and I was focused on that.

  16. kim says:

    Helen - I replied to your posts about quick illnesses from dry food, and included a bunch of links to other itchmo comments. It appears to be temporarily lost in the spam filter, if it doesn’t post by tonight email me.

    I didn’t think to copy it so will have to re-create it. Basically, yes, most dry food illnesses seem to take longer based on the reports I’ve read online, but, I have read quite a few that got sick within a day or two or week.

  17. Gail B says:

    Anybody out there actually save the copy of the report to your computer? email it to 5 friends and ask them to email it to 5 more. Better yet, also email it to 5 journalists.

  18. Jenny says:

    Wellness did finally update their web page regarding melamine testing - no mention of cynuric acid though.
    http://www.omhpet.com/wellness.....sophy.html

  19. Ruth says:

    To Lorie: don’t feel bad about your friend with children. Your pets are your life. Any yeah its hurtful to people who have furbabies. People need to be more aware that its slowly coming into our food but they are clueless and only think its only a pet food problem. Sad…

    My little pet dog died in March but its not getting any better and I won’t feel any better until IAM’s owns up. My pet was my life. And much more.

    I also panic everytime I feed my daughter’s pets. Not knowing if its safe or not. I worry more than she does.

  20. ally says:

    slt Says: at 7:51 pm

    Too bizarre slt! :D

  21. straybaby says:

    “In response, Iams says they are “fully confident” that no cyanuric acid or melamine entered their products. ”

    prove it. say what you know and how you know it.

  22. Kiki says:

    FIND OUT WHAT PRODUCTS ARE DOING GREAT - SO YOU CAN BOYCOTT THEM - (YES TOOTHPASTE FROM CHINA IS UP!!)

    Procter & Gamble F3Q07 (Qtr End 3/31/07) Earnings Call Transcript
    Posted on May 1st, 2007 with stocks: PG

    http://retail.seekingalpha.com/article/34126

  23. Steve says:

    I think the Pet Food Industry is still lying out of their as*es. They were lying before this recall, tried to cover it up. And are still lying and trying to cover up IMO.

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  25. Debbie4747 says:

    ann Says:

    May 24th, 2007 at 7:25 pm
    Its because of the flouride. Children under 6 are not supposed to have flouride
    ****
    Thanks Ann…I was almost afraid to brush!

    ++++++++

    k Says:

    May 24th, 2007 at 7:37 pm
    Debbie 4747, as far as I’m aware, China holds a lot of U.S. debt, and as a result is in a position to influence what the U.S. government might actually say about any number of issues related to China. China could also refuse to accept goods from any country that makes a stink about any of this stuff.

    I seem to recall that one of the reasons a lot of manufacturing jobs disappeared from North America is that a lot of companies that used to have factories in North America moved their operations to China because they could run their businesses at a far lower cost and with far fewer restrictions than they could here.

    *****
    K, I know we have a very large outstanding debt to China, and alot of our jobs have gone there and elsewhere. Corporate greed from the idiots in charge here. However, we as the consumers have to let both Corporate heads and government here as well as those in China that we no longer want what we’re getting. And to me, that remark did sound like a thread which infuriates me even more. After all, we, the consumers did not ask China for this loan, we did not send all the jobs over there, and who says these large coprorations need such huge profits. Can’t good profits suffice? Say if a can of cat food costs $ .25 to manufacture here with good ingredients. We buy it for $ .50. The way these pet food companies are doing it is putting in crap costing them $ .10 a can and still selling it for $ .50 as this is what we agree to pay. Do they really have to make such a huge profit? The number I quote are of course inaccurate, just making a point. Can’t these people be happy with two billion in profit? Do they really need ten? Greed, just greed and now we’re finding out just how bad our food chain really is. Looks like things will be increasingly more interesting from now on. I just wish everything would improve 100% and we could go back to just buying food with confidence that it will be of good quality. Fingers crossed.

  26. ally says:

    If anyone has a screen grab of that report please send it with a link to Itchmo’s blog entry and note to these journalists:

    David Barboza - NY Times
    Abigail Goldman - LA Times
    Karen Roebuck - Pittsburgh Tribune

    These three have done a stellar job getting the word out about this recall. If anyone knows the USA Today journalist’s name please add it as well.

  27. JJ says:

    Chuck you list very good points that people should consider before asking the same questions about the same companies as if by some miracle they will make food that wont kill your pet. Anybody that is willing to trust these pet food companies again will eventually end up with a very sick or dead pet. Do you think for one minute they will spend any money on the food so you’ll “think it’s safe?” There are still recalling it instead of pulling it all off the shelves at once. I was in Jewel grocery store today and there are recalled food still on the shelves! I think people hope there will be an easy and least expensive way out of this. There won’t. You have two choices - either make home cooked or buy organic pet food. Natura is testing and give 100% guarantee that the food is not contaminated or tainted. Also they are buying their own plant to be able to monitor their food along with test it all the time. Pet lovers you know of any other companies that do this? If so let us know and we will have more than once choice of safe food. Until then stop asking is this safe, is that safe, etc. Read what other people have listed in the forums on here with their experiences and draw your own conclusions as to what to feed and if you feel its safe then use it.

  28. Gail B says:

    Link to Global List of P&G products
    http://tinyurl.com/bz8kp

  29. cheetah-dog says:

    I have never dyed my hair, will brush my teeth with Arm & Hammer and totally discontinue using makeup. I only wear Mascara but I would suppose that it is from China as well. I use a completely sulfite free shampoo from Mastey. I have only used Ivory bar soap for the last 15 years (I have soft water).

    Have gone on a gluten-free diet for myself (corn meal is allowed) so am putting my dog on Kumpi which is gluten-free for dogs. I am returning my multi-vitamins just received from Andrew Lessman.

    Can NOT go to my favorite Chinese Seafood Restaurant or Vietnamese Noodle restaurant. No more chicken from Costco. Must now shop at neighborhood farmers market. Do I need to worry about bottled water??

    THIS is insane!

  30. straybaby says:

    here ya go ally:

    By Elizabeth Weise and Julie Schmit, USA TODAY

  31. ally says:

    stray - you ROCK.
    Thank you!

  32. Katie says:

    I went to the P&G website and sent them an email with my 2 cents about how they are handling this petfood situation. All of us concerned pet owners should email them and let them know exactly how many of us care about this issue. Apparently they think there are only “2.3″ of us concerned pet owners out here, monitoring and researching the food issues, and that we only have an IQ of 12 between us.

    Oh, and I guess that means they don’t realize we are the folks who buy all those other products they make and sell? guess they are a little
    s l o w at P & G :-)

    VOTE WITH YOUR MONEY!!!!

  33. Lorie says:

    cheetah-dog

    Is there something wrong with Costco Chicken? or just mela chicken in general

  34. Steve says:

    Oh without a doubt they have convinced themselves that the only people complaining about this are the PC and Itch bloggers.

    Are they ever in for a rude awakening.

  35. Helen says:

    Debbie 4747: Swallowing any toothpaste that contains fluoride is dangerous, and if a large amount is swallowed, poison control should always be contacted even if made in USA.

  36. cheetah-dog says:

    Lorie:

    I just do not know what these chickens have been fed!!

  37. ann says:

    What labs are people using for pet food testing? I want to check my food for my own piece of mind. If those of us who tested our pet food compiled a database, a lot of us would feel alot better.

  38. Kiki says:

    P&g TRANSCRIPT snippets: These #$%^& are in with China - deep!!!!

    -We also made a very concerted effort to focus on China because if you put the US and China together, you have got over a third of the volume of Oral Care in the world. So instead of chasing 100 markets, which we would not have the capability to do, we focus on a couple. We are actually focusing on ten. In China we have the leading brand. We’re growing from strength to strength. We have very strong equity.

    -We have got a $3 billion business in China, almost $1 billion business on hair alone. We’re growing at a good rate, but some of our competitors are growing off much, much, much smaller business bases. The kind of bases we had five, six, seven years ago. So you’re going to get a higher growth rate.

    -We’re heading for $1 billion in Hair Care sales in China. Growing high singles or double-digit every period with higher than a 50 share in the Shampoo segment, which is far and away the biggest and still growing our share there.

    -So I feel pretty good about our developing market position. I think you saw an announcement where we’re going to put Asia together so we can drive some real learning and synergy across the Asian markets and grow even faster there because Asia and Central and Eastern Europe, Middle East are going to be the real developing marketing engines of growth.

    -Our focus in the Beauty Care business is on Skin Care and Hair Care. Our Skin Care business is strong by any stretch, even with the SK-II issue in China this year, which has clearly been a drag; a full point last quarter, a point on the Beauty Care line this quarter. We will come all the way back from that.

    -You asked about China. In Blades and Razors I think we’ve added about 70,000 new stores to direct coverage through our distributors. This is almost a 50% increase. Our Gillette System Razor share was up almost 6 points in the quarter.

    -developing markets are an engine of growth and are going to continue to be an engine of growth. Yes, we had a very good quarter, pretty strong double-digit growth across the developing market. We are building off a pretty big base now. If you think of our base, it is roughly 27% of company sales, give or take, on a $76 billion business, that is $20 billion. $20.5 billion roughly. So this is a big base.

  39. Sharon says:

    re Jody’s post at 3:38 pm - I’m not much help since I just have a CRF kitty (my third) so I surely hope some doggie folks can, but long ago I did the same thing when faced with the putrid ingredients in the “kidney diets” the vets were pimping. I picked the Purina NF because it seemed the least objectionable. And because the Hills dry had ethoxyquin in it. Paid chunks of money for the NF, too. My older CRF kitty wouldn’t eat it and my present one, age 15, won’t. I tried it once for a few days to shut them up. She doesn’t consider corn cobs and by-products cat food. My best advice is, don’t listen to them, and that’s what I’ve told everyone about the kidney RX diets for years. Understand this is my OWN take. And understand they will still be trying to force it on you 5 years down the road, while (I pray) your baby is stable on good quality low-phosphorus food. Mine was. And in spite of my researching and choosing my older one’s diet myself, and as well as she did for years on it, I was still “wrong”. Low protein may work better for dogs than it does for cats (it just makes cats anemic so they can require some dangerous drug for that) so if you do some research into the protein content AND phosphorus content of good foods - by weight in dry foods and by dry matter weight in wet foods, you’ll find something she likes and can have.

    What I’m saying is that you’ll need to do the work yourself when what the vets “offer” is unacceptable, but many of us moms of CRF patients already were, and certainly more are now. There’s tons of good info out there, and I see someone referred you to the CRF group for dogs - great! - so try not to worry till you get a handle on it, and good luck!

  40. Mary says:

    Here’s a site with more information about management of kidney disease: “Kidney Disease in Dogs website: symptoms, diagnosis, treatment,
    management (medical and dietary), recipes, breed specific renal
    diseases, genetics, current research, bibliography and abstracts
    http://www.geocities.com/jjfleisher/ or
    http://vetprof.com/clientinfo/KidneyDiseaseInDogs/ (different
    format)

  41. ally says:

    Think maybe all P&G television commercials should feature “Bad to the Bone” as their background music?

  42. Ruth says:

    “They also defended their “exceptional response” to handling customer complaints.” This was IAM’s talking.
    Does anyone know what they mean by “exceptional response”?
    I didn’t get that feeling when I called and called. IMO…. they were condescending when I asked if and how they tested the dry food since my pet died from what I believe was their food….how about that….

    Their response to Itchmo’s blog proves it…

  43. JJ says:

    WE are starting to make a difference if P&G wanted the picture of the report taken off Itchmo! What no one would know they make Iams and Eukanuba? So many of pet lovers in the forums have stated they are going back to cooking for themselves and their pets that pet food sales must be dramatically down. After this latest report on the Cyanuric acid just proves that you cannot trust any of these companies/corporations to tell the truth. Keep talking with your wallets and pocketbooks and change will take place as other companies see we mean business by not accepting this anymore-the adulteration of our food and our pets too. Those USA companies that would like our business will go out of their way to make sure the food is safe and wholesome without having greed enter the picture. COOL will have to happen for all of us.

  44. Gail B says:

    I emailed the journalists below:

    David Barboza - NY Times
    Abigail Goldman - LA Times
    Karen Roebuck - Pittsburgh Tribune

    but couldn’t find a way to contact
    Elizabeth Weise and Julie Schmit at USA TODAY directly.

  45. Lorie says:

    Geez I just read the list at P&G list my household uses :

    Cascade, Bounce, Cover Girl, Crest, Dawn, Febreeze, Folgers, Gillette, Herbal Essence, Max Factor, Olay, Puffs, Scope, Secret, Swiffer, and Tide.

    Eukanuba and IAMS use to be used also but have been removed.

    I can remove probably half the others but it is just like Menu if I quit using Tide and to my second choice Cheer it is still P&G. What a mess

  46. Lorie says:

    oh crap they also own Vicks, Nyquil laced with anti-freeze anyone?

    So that plus Bounty paper towels makes 19, at leat TP wise I am safe hate Charmin . LOL

  47. Marcia says:

    Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!! I was feeding Iams dry late last year and my two dogs became ill with the exact symptoms we were seeing in March. The vet could not figure out what was wrong. Thankfully, they recovered. You have been so wonderful throughout this whole ordeal by providing support and exceptional information. Every pet owner in this country owes you a debt of gratitude!

  48. ally says:

    *memo to self: replace the following on future shopping lists:

    Tide
    Crest
    Dawn
    Febreeze
    Swiffer
    Secret
    Olay

    Thanks Lorie for posting your list. I had no idea I was buying so much from P & G. It’s a long list to replace but where there’s a will, there’s a way.

  49. ally says:

    Gail - many thanks to you as well for being so proactive!

  50. straybaby says:

    Lori,

    see if arm and hammer has a detergent you like. I use *green* detergents which i find fine for everyday use. if my clothes are particularly dirty ( meat guts on my shirt!) i do an oxy-clean prewash.

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