Comments on: EXCLUSIVE: Lab Reports Cyanuric Acid In Unrecalled Dry Food http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828 Essential news for cats, dogs and pet owners. Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:25:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Jenny http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-235887 Jenny Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:46:50 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-235887 I was looking around online for information about other people finding stuff in the dog food and found you. It looks like your site might be helpful for my problem. I was hand feeding my dog some iams food and got a sharp pain in my finger when I reached in her bowl for another handful. Upon opening my hand I found a piece of iams food stuck in my finger with a sharp something or other protruding from the kibble. It was obviously "baked" in or however they make their food. I saved the piece of kibble with the shard of whatever it may be...looks to me like glass. It is very sharp and protruded far enough out of the kibble to actually peirce my flesh and stay there while moving my hand around. I have no doubt that it would have been a danger to my dog and believe it could have caused her to have bleeding of the mouth and/or digestive tract. I called Iams to tell them about it but was only able to leave a message. I will have to wait to hear from them. Meanwhile, I am thinking how bags have sharp pieces like this in them? How many people have fed these to their dogs and not known why the dogs have blood in their mouths or worse. So I thought this site might be a way for me to let other pet owners to keep a watch for these things or change foods. From what I see here, I don't have alot of confidence anyone would hear about it from Iams. The bag this kibble was from is: Iams Small and Toy Proactive Health 7 pound bag The numbers on the bags are: 290310 29MAR10 Next line of numbers: 83344173 D1 US30940 I was looking around online for information about other people finding stuff in the dog food and found you. It looks like your site might be helpful for my problem.

I was hand feeding my dog some iams food and got a sharp pain in my finger when I reached in her bowl for another handful. Upon opening my hand I found a piece of iams food stuck in my finger with a sharp something or other protruding from the kibble. It was obviously “baked” in or however they make their food. I saved the piece of kibble with the shard of whatever it may be…looks to me like glass. It is very sharp and protruded far enough out of the kibble to actually peirce my flesh and stay there while moving my hand around. I have no
doubt that it would have been a danger to my dog and believe it could have caused her to have bleeding of the
mouth and/or digestive tract.

I called Iams to tell them about it but was only able to leave a message. I will have to wait to hear from them.

Meanwhile, I am thinking how bags have sharp pieces like this in them? How many people have fed these to their
dogs and not known why the dogs have blood in their mouths or worse. So I thought this site might be a way for
me to let other pet owners to keep a watch for these things or change foods.

From what I see here, I don’t have alot of confidence anyone would hear about it from Iams.

The bag this kibble was from is: Iams Small and Toy Proactive Health 7 pound bag
The numbers on the bags are: 290310 29MAR10 Next line of numbers: 83344173 D1 US30940

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]]> By: Matt http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-46878 Matt Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:35:30 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-46878 I have a malamute. I have fed her the IAMS dry large chunks for years. I opened a new bag 2 weeks ago. Her health deteriorated immediately. She vomited, had the shakes, convulsed, and finally refused to eat the food. My vet pulled her from the brink of death after feeding her rice and soup and monitoring her for 4 straight days as she went through hell. Then she miraculously recovered (I had even told the vet that maybe we should euthanize her, she looked so bad). For 3 days she was her old self. Not realizing what was causing this, I decided to wet down her "good old IAMS dry food" and give her "her old favorite". The food was the consistancy of mush for easy eating. When I put it in front of her, instead of pouncing on it like she usually does, she looked at me for about 5 seconds and then started to tentatively eat it. Something clicked - All her problems had started when I started on this new bag of food. I thought that if she got sick that night, I now knew the answer. That night was hell as she vomited, and had MAJOR convulsions and was SO sick. I had my answer. I stopped the food, went back to rice and soup and now am back on canned food and she was better in a single day. Coincidence? I don't think so. I have a call into FDA. I live in the Denver area which fits your description. Unfortunately, the bag is open. Believe me, I'm not into scandals and such drivil - DON'T FEED YOUR ANIMAL THIS PRODUCT!!! I pretty much ran the perfect test, unknowingly risking my pet to get the results and the results were conclusive. Contact me if you want samples from this bag - I would LOVE to help put this to rest - and IAMS for what they did to my pet. I have a malamute. I have fed her the IAMS dry large chunks for years. I opened a new bag 2 weeks ago. Her health deteriorated immediately. She vomited, had the shakes, convulsed, and finally refused to eat the food. My vet pulled her from the brink of death after feeding her rice and soup and monitoring her for 4 straight days as she went through hell. Then she miraculously recovered (I had even told the vet that maybe we should euthanize her, she looked so bad). For 3 days she was her old self. Not realizing what was causing this, I decided to wet down her “good old IAMS dry food” and give her “her old favorite”. The food was the consistancy of mush for easy eating. When I put it in front of her, instead of pouncing on it like she usually does, she looked at me for about 5 seconds and then started to tentatively eat it. Something clicked - All her problems had started when I started on this new bag of food. I thought that if she got sick that night, I now knew the answer. That night was hell as she vomited, and had MAJOR convulsions and was SO sick. I had my answer. I stopped the food, went back to rice and soup and now am back on canned food and she was better in a single day. Coincidence? I don’t think so. I have a call into FDA. I live in the Denver area which fits your description. Unfortunately, the bag is open. Believe me, I’m not into scandals and such drivil - DON’T FEED YOUR ANIMAL THIS PRODUCT!!! I pretty much ran the perfect test, unknowingly risking my pet to get the results and the results were conclusive. Contact me if you want samples from this bag - I would LOVE to help put this to rest - and IAMS for what they did to my pet.

]]> By: gary http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-35992 gary Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:09:52 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-35992 I am just enquiring, does anyone know if pet foods in the uk contain pentobarital, if so can you advise of which foods. thank you gary I am just enquiring, does anyone know if pet foods in the uk contain pentobarital, if so can you advise of which foods.

thank you

gary

]]> By: barb http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-28069 barb Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:00:34 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-28069 Be careful not to look at the food as the be-all, end-all, and cause-all of your dogs' problems. I see a lot of people posting things here and automatically blaming tainted food. You do your dogs a huge dis-service that way. It could be something else entirely, and you need to keep looking until you find out what it is. Don't just assume that changing the food will fix your dog. Example, a lot of people post about vomiting foamy bile. Believe it or not, that's not just common, it's considered normal for dogs. It can be a sign of hunger, stress, acid indigestion (try pepcid), low blood sugar, or even swallowing a foreign object. Don't just assume it's the food. Sometimes changing the food will help, as certain foods take longer to digest and will alleviate the problem. As far as raised ALT enzyme, and someone said the vet said "its' something in the food", you may have misunderstood that comment from the vet. In cases of toxins, you will see not just the ALT but also the AST go up, and they go up by a factor of 5-10 times normal. However, with a raised ALT a lot of vets will recommend an ultrasound to be sure there isn't neoplastic activity causing the mild increase. The raised ALT is a classic symptom of a true medical food intolerance, called inflammatory bowel disease (not to be confused with irritable bowel disease in humans) which means the dog can't digest something that it's eating. Over time, it can cause some serious problems. These dogs are typically put onto a single protein/single carbohydrate diet and then re-test the enzyme after about 6 months. Severe cases will require steroids and anti-inflammatories. The IBD can only be confirmed by intestinal biopsy. It's not that uncommon in dogs OR cats. Symptoms can come and go, and include diarrhea and/or vomiting, mild or acute, depending on the severity of the problems. Some dogs have no symptoms at all except the raised ALT enzyme. Most common culprit is beef, second is glutens. Another thing is the raised kidney enzymes. Yes, it can come from food. But it can also come from a host of other problems, one of which in dogs is a low level of leptospirosis. That disease needs to be treated with a long term course of antibiotics. Sometimes it's only picked up through elevated kidney values on a routine blood test....IF the vet thinks to test for lepto. My point is not that a lot of food out there isn't terrible, nor is it that some of the foods are making pets sick. My point is, do your pet a huge favor, don't just assume all their problems are caused by the food until you have ruled out EVERYTHING else, even if it means seeing a different vet. Be careful not to look at the food as the be-all, end-all, and cause-all of your dogs’ problems.
I see a lot of people posting things here and automatically blaming tainted food. You do your dogs a huge dis-service that way. It could be something else entirely, and you need to keep looking until you find out what it is. Don’t just assume that changing the food will fix your dog.
Example, a lot of people post about vomiting foamy bile. Believe it or not, that’s not just common, it’s considered normal for dogs. It can be a sign of hunger, stress, acid indigestion (try pepcid), low blood sugar, or even swallowing a foreign object. Don’t just assume it’s the food. Sometimes changing the food will help, as certain foods take longer to digest and will alleviate the problem.
As far as raised ALT enzyme, and someone said the vet said “its’ something in the food”, you may have misunderstood that comment from the vet. In cases of toxins, you will see not just the ALT but also the AST go up, and they go up by a factor of 5-10 times normal. However, with a raised ALT a lot of vets will recommend an ultrasound to be sure there isn’t neoplastic activity causing the mild increase.
The raised ALT is a classic symptom of a true medical food intolerance, called inflammatory bowel disease (not to be confused with irritable bowel disease in humans) which means the dog can’t digest something that it’s eating. Over time, it can cause some serious problems. These dogs are typically put onto a single protein/single carbohydrate diet and then re-test the enzyme after about 6 months. Severe cases will require steroids and anti-inflammatories. The IBD can only be confirmed by intestinal biopsy. It’s not that uncommon in dogs OR cats. Symptoms can come and go, and include diarrhea and/or vomiting, mild or acute, depending on the severity of the problems. Some dogs have no symptoms at all except the raised ALT enzyme. Most common culprit is beef, second is glutens.
Another thing is the raised kidney enzymes. Yes, it can come from food. But it can also come from a host of other problems, one of which in dogs is a low level of leptospirosis. That disease needs to be treated with a long term course of antibiotics. Sometimes it’s only picked up through elevated kidney values on a routine blood test….IF the vet thinks to test for lepto.
My point is not that a lot of food out there isn’t terrible, nor is it that some of the foods are making pets sick. My point is, do your pet a huge favor, don’t just assume all their problems are caused by the food until you have ruled out EVERYTHING else, even if it means seeing a different vet.

]]> By: Rockman13 http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-26624 Rockman13 Thu, 07 Jun 2007 08:15:11 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-26624 To Kirsten May 24th, 2007 at 3:05 pm Says: "The reason I think this is dramatic is because the sample appears to have tested *negative* for melamine, but *positive* for cyanuric acid. This is the first time I, for one, have seen this type of test result." By the very nature of the chemical process of extracting ammonia from coal, by which the scrap melamine was produced in China, cyanuric acid and several other related compounds are produced. The combination of these chemicals in the scrap melamine and the fact that the Chinese have an over supply of melamine is why this scrap melamine is scrap! Since this case was an OPENED IAMS bag, and only cyanuric acid was found in it, these facts greatly raise the suspicion that this is as case of criminal food tampering on the part of someone who "has an ax to grind" with IAMS/P&G. These various pet blogs are full of suspects - I don't mean everybody, just that there are a lot more than just 1. Something to think about. To Kirsten May 24th, 2007 at 3:05 pm Says: “The reason I think this is dramatic is because the sample appears to have tested *negative* for melamine, but *positive* for cyanuric acid. This is the first time I, for one, have seen this type of test result.”

By the very nature of the chemical process of extracting ammonia from coal, by which the scrap melamine was produced in China, cyanuric acid and several other related compounds are produced. The combination of these chemicals in the scrap melamine and the fact that the Chinese have an over supply of melamine is why this scrap melamine is scrap!

Since this case was an OPENED IAMS bag, and only cyanuric acid was found in it, these facts greatly raise the suspicion that this is as case of criminal food tampering on the part of someone who “has an ax to grind” with IAMS/P&G. These various pet blogs are full of suspects - I don’t mean everybody, just that there are a lot more than just 1.

Something to think about.

]]> By: Rockman13 http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-26621 Rockman13 Thu, 07 Jun 2007 07:55:45 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-26621 To Don May 26th, 2007 at 6:56 am Says: "...The one thing we can be sure of is that we have so far been told a pack of lies that are part of a huge FDA and corporate cover up." You comment that it is all a pack of lies just now reminded me of something that has not shown up on any pet blog. And that is that not every animal has the same susceptibility for an adverse effect to something. Just as size, breed, gender and species all effect an animals reaction to something ingested, so to does age and health status. A pet with pre-existing kidney damage/disease could easily be killed by a poison dose but which would have such a minimal effect on healthy pets, that the healthy pet owner would never be aware that anything is a miss. Just as the deadliness of e-coli in humans varies widely between the young, adult and elderly or those with weak immune systems, so to could/would there be wide differences in reactions among the cats and dogs. Just ask your vet or family doctor. The age and health status hasn't been mentioned by the FDA, veterinarians or pet owners, that I have noticed. This could possibly explain some of of the unknowns that people are attributing to lies and intentional deceit. To Don May 26th, 2007 at 6:56 am Says: “…The one thing we can be sure of is that we have so far been told a pack of lies that are part of a huge FDA and corporate cover up.”

You comment that it is all a pack of lies just now reminded me of something that has not shown up on any pet blog. And that is that not every animal has the same susceptibility for an adverse effect to something. Just as size, breed, gender and species all effect an animals reaction to something ingested, so to does age and health status. A pet with pre-existing kidney damage/disease could easily be killed by a poison dose but which would have such a minimal effect on healthy pets, that the healthy pet owner would never be aware that anything is a miss. Just as the deadliness of e-coli in humans varies widely between the young, adult and elderly or those with weak immune systems, so to could/would there be wide differences in reactions among the cats and dogs. Just ask your vet or family doctor.

The age and health status hasn’t been mentioned by the FDA, veterinarians or pet owners, that I have noticed. This could possibly explain some of of the unknowns that people are attributing to lies and intentional deceit.

]]> By: Hannah http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-25902 Hannah Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:38:43 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-25902 I'm not surprised that Proctor & Gamble (parent company of Iams) put pressure on the test lab to have you remove the test lab findings from your post. Why they would care is beyond me. It's a known fact that they are one of the biggest unecessary"animal test" companies around. Peta's been after them for years and they don't seem to give a flying fig. As per all the other recall companies, the bottom $ seems to be all that matters. I for one have boycotted any product P&G manufactures (INCLUDING pet food!) and have been searching high and low for a "safe" food for my babies. My heart goes out to all of you that have suffered a loss or are in the midst of a crisis. We CAN make a difference. Pet warriors arise! I’m not surprised that Proctor & Gamble (parent company of Iams) put pressure on the test lab to have you remove the test lab findings from your post. Why they would care is beyond me. It’s a known fact that they are one of the biggest unecessary”animal test” companies around. Peta’s been after them for years and they don’t seem to give a flying fig. As per all the other recall companies, the bottom $ seems to be all that matters. I for one have boycotted any product P&G manufactures (INCLUDING pet food!) and have been searching high and low for a “safe” food for my babies. My heart goes out to all of you that have suffered a loss or are in the midst of a crisis. We CAN make a difference. Pet warriors arise!

]]> By: Itchmo » Blog Archive » Itchmo Reader Reports Acetaminophen In Pet Food http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-25827 Itchmo » Blog Archive » Itchmo Reader Reports Acetaminophen In Pet Food Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:43:56 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-25827 [...] we were breaking news of a Texas lab reporting cyanuric acid in unrecalled food, an Itchmo reader informed us that he had a lab test turn up positive for [...] […] we were breaking news of a Texas lab reporting cyanuric acid in unrecalled food, an Itchmo reader informed us that he had a lab test turn up positive for […]

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-25712 Anonymous Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:38:06 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-25712 Itchmo: Will you also test for acetaminophen (Tylenol)? Any results from the two bags sent in by members? Thank you for testing! Itchmo: Will you also test for acetaminophen (Tylenol)? Any results from the two bags sent in by members? Thank you for testing!

]]> By: Itchmo » Blog Archive » Recall Update: Tuesday http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-25669 Itchmo » Blog Archive » Recall Update: Tuesday Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:12:06 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-25669 [...] reported on a lab report linking Iams Large Breed dry food and cyanuric acid several days ago. Since then, with the help of our readers, we have been able to locate 2 unopened [...] […] reported on a lab report linking Iams Large Breed dry food and cyanuric acid several days ago. Since then, with the help of our readers, we have been able to locate 2 unopened […]

]]> By: Phyllis http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-24192 Phyllis Wed, 30 May 2007 22:38:31 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-24192 Just a quick reminder for kidney detox -- get some common juniper tincture made by Unda or Dolisos. Add a few drops to the pets' water or put a couple of drops under the tongue. Cats use 1-4 drops a day depending on size. see thepetwhisperer.com for more information on Gemmotherapy. As a human, I use 25 drops 3 x a day, but when I was really sick, and on chemo, I used 50 drops. It does not interfere with pharmaceutical medications. Just a quick reminder for kidney detox — get some common juniper tincture made by Unda or Dolisos. Add a few drops to the pets’ water or put a couple of drops under the tongue. Cats use 1-4 drops a day depending on size. see thepetwhisperer.com for more information on Gemmotherapy. As a human, I use 25 drops 3 x a day, but when I was really sick, and on chemo, I used 50 drops. It does not interfere with pharmaceutical medications.

]]> By: Phyllis http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-24180 Phyllis Wed, 30 May 2007 22:21:32 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-24180 Trudy -- your link does not work. I am using a computer at the university library and it is very up to date. I want to send the info to my oldest daughter. Trudy — your link does not work. I am using a computer at the university library and it is very up to date. I want to send the info to my oldest daughter.

]]> By: Ownedby5 http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-24013 Ownedby5 Wed, 30 May 2007 16:25:59 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/lab-reports-cyanuric-acid-in-dry-food-828#comment-24013 You will find that it will reach further then the large Breed food. I was feeding the Tiny bites and the overweight as well. Since probably January, three of my 5 were throwing up stomach bile, eating grass, very loose stool ect. Then, they just did not want to eat it. After the news of the contaminated food broke, I stopped feeding them this and it cleared up within a few weeks. I have 4 other people that were also feeding Iams dry some were large breed and the others were puppy. They were having the same issues I was having. You will find that it will reach further then the large Breed food. I was feeding the Tiny bites and the overweight as well. Since probably January, three of my 5 were throwing up stomach bile, eating grass, very loose stool ect. Then, they just did not want to eat it. After the news of the contaminated food broke, I stopped feeding them this and it cleared up within a few weeks.

I have 4 other people that were also feeding Iams dry some were large breed and the others were puppy. They were having the same issues I was having.

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