Exclusive: Lab Reports Melamine In Unrecalled Dry Pet Food Exported From US
A lab report provided by a reader indicates that a sample of Country Value Puppy formula exported from the US contained melamine. The report obtained and translated by Itchmo states that the sample was tested by a South Korean university’s veterinary research center. This report has not been verified in the US. Country Value is also sold in the US, but has not been recalled.
This is also the first report of a lab — besides Expertox in Texas — reporting on possible contamination of unrecalled pet food.
Jim Fallon, a spokesman for Diamond Pet Foods, said that the food with the best by date of March 2008 was made in September 2006 at their South Carolina plant.
The lab reported finding melamine concentrations of 346.21 parts per million, a number that is higher than the amounts typically found through cross contamination according to the manufacturer Diamond Pet Food. Fallon also said that they have received no calls regarding Country Value through their recall hotlines. Diamond is working on pulling the retained samples and will test them for melamine and says they will pursue this “aggressively and cautiously.”
Diamond has recalled several products in recent months due to melamine contamination. The Itchmo reader also wrote that the importer denied that the food was contaminated.
The FDA could not be reached in time for comment.
The ingredient list for Country Value Puppy formula is after the jump.
Top 10 ingredients in Country Value Puppy formula according to About.com
Meat meal
Whole grain ground corn
Rice bran
Corn gluten meal
Chicken fat (preserved with mixed toco-pherols)
Wheat flour
Beet pulp
Natural chicken flavor
Flaxseed
Potassium chloride
June 9th, 2007 at 4:52 pm
On Yahoo News:
So far, there has been no official word of any animals getting sick from the pet food.
huh?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/kgtv/13454328
June 9th, 2007 at 5:20 pm
Thanks Randy, good to SEE it reported tho a Really “abreviated” Version! I think the reporter: Michelle Kirsh, should have added a few more of the facts. But since those Facts come from ‘Private’ Citizens who sent in their Own samples, after sick pets; probably decided to leave that out.
Amazing how one person/place will take the Labs “word/results as fact” and another won’t.
We can only Hope MORE Facts, keep squeezing “their” BUTTS in the Crack of the Door, tighter and tighter till they Squeal out Loud!
June 9th, 2007 at 5:22 pm
From Consumer Affairs
http://www.consumeraffairs.com.....all56.html
This one has more information.
June 9th, 2007 at 5:25 pm
RE: Testing Labs
FYI - MidWest Labs does all the testing for Natura Pet products.
Leslie K — regarding tests for acetaminophen –
The lab equipment would have to be set up to “read” acetaminophen, irregardless if it is set to read cyanuric acid. The two chemicals would have a different make-up, so identification would have to be different.
June 9th, 2007 at 5:31 pm
Okay I’m back! Am also dog-sitting this week, one of the dogs is afraid of thunder, he had escaped and I got there just in time.
To continue what I was trying to say—my vet and I figured that the reason the dobe stopped eating was that he had finally gotten all the nutrition he had been lacking and just wasn’t hungry the week he didn’t eat, now he’s stable nutrition-wise. Our other two dogs did a similar thing just not as pronounced.
I imagine when your puppy is grown his food intake will be about the same as the foster dobe’s, although from past experience I will say that until he’s through growing he will eat a lot. The cheaper the food, the more he will eat, trying to get the nutrients he needs.
When the recalls started, my housemate and I had no clue how we were going to afford better food, but so far we are managing, just because we have to.
June 9th, 2007 at 5:55 pm
Makes perfect sense to me Kathy. I’m glad he’s doing So well :-D
Randy, Ahhhhhh, now That’s a Much Better story/reporter covering it. :-)
The more places THAT particular story hits, the Better for Us. Take this thing Seriously.
It sure Rocked Us here these past couple of weeks.
{as If we’ve not been Rocked Enough already!}
It’s a Very Very Scary ingredient to pop-up. Could even be Criminal in the source, some think.
June 9th, 2007 at 6:15 pm
Boy, can I ever empathize with those who have commented on the cost of home cooking for large dogs. (120 pounder, here) Even with occasionally using less popular meats like hearts and gizzards, stocking up at sales, and purchasing”half price” packages of meat on their last day of code, my food bill has skyrocketed since March. And of course one must include the cost of veggies and starch in the recipe, too.
My peace of mind and the visible change in my dog’s fur, plus his excitement at meal time has made me feel it is well worth the financial sacrifice, though. But what REALLY got to me was when I stopped to realize that if it costs this much to have quality and safe ingredients then what the heck can possibly be in commercial bags that sell at 40 pounds for $30.00!
Well, yeah, I guess we just found out, didn’t we.
June 9th, 2007 at 6:19 pm
For info on GM food, see “Killer Foods” at:
http://tedeboy.tripod.com/drmichaelwfox
Also read Dr. Fox’s article, “Largest Pet Food Recall Ever” at this site.
June 9th, 2007 at 6:49 pm
i think it’s worth stressing as it seems continually ignored or avoided rather suspiciously by those who should be finding out EXACTLY what killed pets around the world-
seeing as it appears the poisonous items( perhaps it’s more than just one or the other-maybe some things had acteminophen and others had the melamine and some had both. maybe we’re not dealing with just one cause/deadly component but MANY) seem to be( no one has scientifically came out and really proved it to my mind but i could be missing something) associated with GRAIN products perhaps it would be best to at least look at the growing and processing of the grain and the chemicals involved therein.
someone may be able to definitively state this, so help me ou,t but was the contamination with melamine seen in other distinct, seperate manufacturers? if so, it wasn’t just Menu Foods dumping the crap in there for some unknown reason. that means in all likelihood if all these companies got grain product derivatives seperately from China then the contamination really started there.(i have to go to the pet food place with a 5 page list in my hand to pick a food. it’s hard to keep up on everything Menu foods makes . and then some companies won’t say where they are made. it’s daunting.)
that there is a high probability that the GRAINS hold the key to the source of and whys of the contamination is found in the 3 items which even the useless tools at the FDA agree should not be in animal food and feed that continually are mentioned in lab findings in dead animals and tested suspect foods :
melamine
acteminophen
cyanuric acid
we’ve pretty much established that the chinese companies were dumping melamine in to boost protein content. melamine is also used as a polymer binder in GMO crop seeds. this polymer binder is used in making the crops with built in time release insecticides, fungicides, pesticides. this is so the plant makes it’s own pesticides once sprouted. it is very controversal. Monsanto has been testing GMO wheat it was prohibited from testing in surope and america in..China.
acteminophen and cyranuric acid are both registered pesticides in the united states. seeing as china allows many pesticides for use that the western world does not one can only assume they allow there use. acteminophen is also mentioned in the patent for a pesticide in the binding coats on GMO seeds.
the glaringly obvious link-surely to scientists who test for poisons in these circumstances- should be the freakin’ grain. every poison found is used in the growing and production of GRAINS whether experimentally or not.
as for the person who asked about aminopterin- it is also associated with the production of grains-GMO grains with time released pesticides in particular. it is used as a gene marker in genetically modified items.
it was NOT developed as a rat poison-it’s an man made substance that was marketed and used to combat tumours in cancer patients. but it is highly toxic and other drugs took it’s place. it inhibits folic acid synthesis. it is not listed as and cannot be used as a pesticide. i feel that they are obscuring it’s real most common use now- as a gene marker in GMO foods. blaming the chinese for using it as a rat poison is convenient and perhaps devious. other cheaper rat killers are available to the chinese.
many chemicals it should be pointed out that are used as pesticides are also drugs for beneficial human use. acteminophen is something many of us have taken for a headache. warfarin which really is used as a rat poison is a blood thinner. vitamin D3 , chlorine are all used as pesticides.the issue is whether some companies should be genetically modifying crops to have them produce their own pesticide. perhaps we’re seeing the result of all this screwing with genes and potentially deadly poisons.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:25 pm
Mittens, I definitely have Agreed on this aspect of the contaminations.
And because these Huge conglomerate Companies acted like it’s a Nat’l Security issue, they Won’t own up to this aspect.
It’s just Too Strange ALL of what We are finding, is turning Up In, FOODS!
Heck they Use DDT in China yet today. And that took Years of Banning and recovery Here to get rid of it.
China seems not to care What they allow in as long as it can eventually be Shipped out. Great Gov regulation huh, as we well know.
And we can’t find the Truth {due to their Government} on the effects of these things on their Own poor people. Makes it even harder to find out What WE’VE been dealng with then.
It’s still very much a Closed country, UNLESS they want to Export some *thing*.
Maybe, just maybe, long long down this Horrid road; the People of China themselves will Finally benefit too from this, Not only US and Our Pets.
That’s if, we ALL, Survive this insanity!
{I still hope with the acetaminphen showing up IN FOOD, maybe some sort of LAW Enforcement will get involved!}
June 9th, 2007 at 7:31 pm
PLEASE do Not miss the Beef Recall Info on the Homepage at Itchmo!
It’s Increased to Huge proportions.
June 9th, 2007 at 8:52 pm
ok, I never saw this before…whats GBM?(from my response from Dad’s):
Dear Connie,
Thank you for contacting us with these concerns. We have been keeping
up with All of the new findings, and are in touch with both the FDA and
the GBM. We also still do stringent testings on each and every
ingredient we bring into our plant…and always have, even before all of
these terrible happenings.
Your pet is still safe with us.
Sincerely,
Melanie J. Banks
Dad’s Customer Service
June 9th, 2007 at 10:15 pm
Connie, maybe it has something to do with “Grain” or “Growers”? I’ll see what I can find if anything.
Is it “Dad’s” Foods?
June 10th, 2007 at 1:53 am
I got to wondering about the brown tree snake thing after reading about it on here the last few days–snakes don’t eat grain, so how to they poison them with acetaminphin? Looked it up & got this interesting tid bit–wonder what else is poisoned with this bait? (these snakes are invasive species on Guam & Hawaiian Islands where they are decimating native birds & small mammals)
http://www.usda.gov/agency/ocr......51304.doc
“Our wildlife biologists are currently putting a small amount of acetaminophen in dead mice, and placing them in locations that are attractive to the snakes. Research center scientists are also in the process of developing a synthetic, edible gelatin bait that contains acetaminophen and could be shaped like a lizard, one of the brown tree snakes’ favorite prey. Distributed aerially, the synthetic lizards and mice containing acetaminophen could significantly reduce the brown tree snake population.”
June 10th, 2007 at 1:59 am
They say the pet food manufacturering plants are really filty. I can see mice being ground up in the food too and anything they have ate. sick..
June 10th, 2007 at 3:27 am
Connie, I found nothing for GBM. Not on the Dad’s website or thngs on web search. Well cept Green Belt Movement; I seriously doubt that was it! LOL
I really wish these companies would look elsewhere First before the FDA site. It takes THEM For-Ever to post anything in a Timely manner to ward off Bad things Imho. {kinda that re-active not Pro-active idea we Need}
June 10th, 2007 at 10:32 am
yes I am using Dads & the reply was from dads. My daughter said “Great Big Market??” :) (I havent looked for GBM yet myself. Been very busy.)
I had emailed asking if they were keeping up on everything since the glycerin wasnt glycerin & the acetaminophin(tylenol is just soo much easier to spell!) was now being found. The above was their reply.
btw just for others personal references I bought a bag of (Purina) kibbles & chunks 8-12 weeks ago, but my dogs wouldnt touch it from day one ..(wait…) so I was feeding it to the possums on the porch(out of the original bag).
I went out of town last weekend for 48 hrs had forgotten to buy more Dads(virtually out) & the man of the house found the kibbles & chunks in the closet & decided to feed THAT to the dogs, with the cooked meat & juice on top of it( I REFUSE to buy store canned anymore). In 48 hrs!!!!!! I had 1 sick dog & 3 sick cats, 2 of which are peeing blood & one who just couldnt pee. Yes yes we went to see doc & several of them are now taking pills & we’re fixing the issues, but Im watching 21 like a hawk AGAIN.
So PURINA…STILL WANNA TELL US THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH YOUR FOODS? This is the 2ND PURINA food thats made my animals sick since Jan! The first was Beneful . (garbage man will take the kibbles & chunks, friday)
This is why I switched to Dad’s. Anything that was a plant, is grown in the usa
June 10th, 2007 at 10:36 am
High note:
Then you REALLY dont want to know whats in some of our human foods LOL :) (but for the sake of sensitivity I wont go there! I heard one thing several yrs ago & it took me 5 yrs!! before I COULD eat that food again.)
June 10th, 2007 at 10:38 am
ironically Im now not upset when my hairy kids go out & kill themselves lunch. At least all I have to worry about that way,are worms. ewwwwww
June 10th, 2007 at 12:52 pm
How do you all find this good information? This is wonderful. Thanks to everyone who has done all this research. I wouldn’t know were to start. You have all helped me more then you can amagine.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:00 pm
Lou - thanks for the info that Midwest does all the Natura testing. That is in fact confirmed on their website here http://www.naturapet.com/about......asp?id=22
That means, since we now know Midwest hasn’t tested for acetaminophen, that no Natura products have been tested for it. Bad news…
June 10th, 2007 at 1:12 pm
Connie,
Please don’t throw the poisioned Purina out - send it to a lab for testing!!
June 10th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
Regarding Life’s Abundance by Healthy Pet Net (verified by company 3/28/07)
One product manufactured by Menu Foods but not in the suspect facility
Most products are manufactured by Ohio Pet Foods
Products do not contain wheat gluten or corn
All products are human quality
The web site said they tested for melamine and their products negative. I’m glad they are testing for the melamine but I’m worried about the other toxins that have been found. I would also like to know what when a company tests for one or all of these toxins what level of detection are they testing at. Melamine is not our main concern anymore.
June 10th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
Yes Connie! Please at least SAVE the Purina if you can’t afford to have the testing done right now. Keep it In the Original bag and roll it up and put the Bag into some Zip-Loc bags and away on a dry dark shelf.
Write “Do Not Feed/use” and todays date, on it.
When the time is right or necessary we might need that tested!
You pets are having a Dramatic reaction. Blood in Anything is no small issue! It can indicate Kidney damage and ureters and bladder. The peeing around things is a symptom of this as well. They can not help it. Please watch them carefully. Possibly get them to a Vet.
There is a Reason the Pets would not eat it earlier. Some can not resist the temmpting trick we try to get them to eat. :-(
CONNIE WHAT are the Codes/Dates etc and formula of the Purina? Dog/Cat? Both? PLEASE Post them here!
WHERE it was purchased?
This is Important!!!!
BarbaraM, Hi there. Some of us hav been surfing and searching the Net for years for other things; some of us have been since THIS Fiasco or when we noticed pet’s being Sick.
This has become a multi-layered Problem for us, and we just keep Digging :-D
Hoping it Helps ALL of Us.
Welcome!
June 10th, 2007 at 4:36 pm
Hi Randy, I agree, Melamine is a ’smaller’ issue but when the cyanuric acid is there too and those 2 combine, Bam for sure.
Don’t get me wrong the Melamine is Not a safe or even disclosed ingredient and Does Not belong there at all.
And it’s Unacceptable by all of Us.
But now we know we’ve got other even more toxic things to worry about, and those can be Alone or in combination with one or more of the others.
LOU state the fact that Natura is testing at MidwestLab. They test ONLY for Melamine and Cyanuric Acid. Not Acetaminophen too.
As much as I liked speaking with the itelligent folks at MidWest Lab, I’d say this is Not a Comfortable thing to trust Foods to knowing about the Numbers of Acetaminophen Found now. {Unless they change and ADD Acetaminophen testing soon.}
Natura should Get this in their thinking as well.
I don’t know How we’d be able to get levels or any more info from a manufacturer Randy. They don’t seem too “chariatible” to any of US or Our Pets over this.
Acetaminophen doesn’t give a Cat parent much time to Do or think about much of Any-thing. As it Kills Cats more frequently and Faster.
And ALL Vets need to Address/treat it as if, THIS Is The poison, First, if a pet comes in Sick!
IMHO
June 10th, 2007 at 4:55 pm
1. we’ve been to the vet, that part is covered.
2. paper bag is foil (?) lined & unsavable Both ends ripped open now, plus bag was NOT sealed between possum feedings. However, I did put a ziplock bag full in the dark dry closet, plus a ziplock bagful in the freezer
3. this WAS a #40 bag of purina kibbles & chunks, bought in state college PA , SOMETIME between march & april?8-12 weeks ago is the best guess I can narrow it down to, possible a couple weeks LONGER. its been in the cupboard since the day it came home & instead of throwing it out, Ive been feeding the porch rats this junk.)
printed info on the bag is: Best By jan 2008 70011085 1833L04
4. it was dogfood ONLY..but, if the dogs walk away or SOME of the cats get their first, theyre gonna get in it.
5. How do I know it was not the cat food?? cats on 2 floors(some are antisocial). downstairs cats unaffected. plus only 3 sick cats, not most & not even 1/3 of the ones mainly on this floor(yes I have my own private pride o cats)
6. why do I believe (as does my vet) that it was the Purina? Theyve been eating Dads dry for weeks now with NO issues amung them all & in 2 days they had access to something I WASNT feeding them.
Wet food? I refuse to buy store wet food. Have been cooking chicken or beef for them & adding the broth & meat to their dry.
7. I need to add this note: this bag has been sitting opened in the cupboard for weeks now, because the dogs refused to touch it from day one. The possums havent been as choosy. Theyve been eating it every time I put it out for them. They’re still coming, I just dont know if its the same ones( I dont see them often. I put food out & then I leave for work myself)
June 10th, 2007 at 5:04 pm
sorry I missed a couple things…how do I know it was NOT the cat food? gut instinct for one. Plus they dont eat purina ANYMORE. I also need to add for YEARS I never had health problems arrise using purina products(friskies, or indoor formulas), but right now I just dont trust anything thats coming from out of country. I got fed up with recall after recall & looked for something, anything, that was grown in this country. That was when I put both dogs & all the cats on Dads pet foods.
also I cant send it anywhere right now($) to be tested, but I will make a point this week of calling 2 local universities to see if they are able to test foods. The worst they can tell me is no.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:18 pm
Connie, even if the bag is ripped and torn, save it! It is proof of the dates and product codes.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:23 pm
I think that there is a fund being set up to pay for testing foods, so even if you don’t have the money to do it yourself, maybe in time this fund could pay for the testing. Check out the forums at itchmo. I think there is a thread there for collecting food to be tested.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:39 pm
I would rather my tax dollars go to pay for pet food testing than where it’s being flushed now.
The companies wont test it and the FDA wont test it!!!!! WT*
June 10th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
NOW CHINA IS GIVING OUT FAKE DRUGS IN THE HOPITALS IN THEIR COUNTRY. GIVING THIS TO THEIR OWN ILL PEOPLE. MAYBE THEIR OWN PEOPLE WILL BEGIN TO SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. JUST A SHORT BIT OF IT BELOW:
Fake drug found in Chinese hospitals, outlets: report
Sun Jun 10, 7:25 AM ET
BEIJING (AFP) - Medical investigators have found batches of a fake blood-boosting drug in northeastern China in the latest scandal to taint its pharmaceutical industry, state press reported Sunday.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
Here’s Dad’s website.
http://www.dadspetcare.com/
June 10th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
Never mind about the link on Dad’s. I didnt read up far enough.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:05 pm
One thing I was thinking about Life’s Abundance yesterday is that the catfish may come from China–didn’t someone say they don’t state US ingredients? China catfish is showing up frequently as contaminated with drug residues on the FDA lists of foods stopped from coming into the country.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
Chinese toxic spill ‘may threaten food chain’
By Geoff Dyer in Harbin, Richard McGregor in Beijing and Neil Buckley in Moscow
Published: November 24 2005 23:32 | Last updated: November 25 2005 10:11
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/517d0e.....e2340.html
June 10th, 2007 at 6:09 pm
Here’s another. Dont you think the FDA would have taken this into consideration a couple of years ago???
Toxic Chinese mercury pollution travelling to US
By Andrew Yeh in Beijing
Published: April 11 2006 22:16 | Last updated: April 12 2006 05:15
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/438b99.....e2340.html
June 10th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
High Pesticide Residues Threaten China’s Food Exports
http://www.organicconsumers.or.....safety.cfm
June 10th, 2007 at 6:18 pm
Dont know if this is old news or not. I didnt know about the blankets from China.
Tainted blankets still on shelves
Kelly Burke Consumer Affairs Reporter | May 22, 2007
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.a.....32020.html
http://vanishingamerican.blogs.....xic%20food
June 10th, 2007 at 6:37 pm
More things to avoid.
China has become America’s leading supplier of apple juice used as a food sweetener, garlic and garlic powder, sausage casings and cocoa butter.
HOMELAND INSECURITY
Is China trying to poison Americans and their pets?
U.S. market flooded with foods unfit for humans, tainted with carcinogens, pesticides, bacteria, drugs
——————————————————————————–
Posted: May 27, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/.....E_ID=55892
June 10th, 2007 at 7:32 pm
I know it’s not near as popular as other types of Insurance but, has anyone seen/read about or can report on, an Increase in Pet Insurance Claims for these Pets poisoned, showing up???
Thought I’d ask.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:34 pm
I have insurance on all mine. I pay yearly so I havent seen it yet.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:37 pm
BTW.
One thing I will mention is the insurance company I use will not pay for “just checking” without an illness. I took all my kids urine in to see if any crystals we found. Thank goodness ALL WAS FINE. The company would not pay for that claim because there was not an illness involved.
That’s ok. Peace of mind was worth it.
June 10th, 2007 at 8:46 pm
For years I fed our dogs Natural Balance Duck and Potato — worked great for us with allergies that the dogs have to many other types of food. When NB Venison was pulled, I switched to EaglePack out of fear of cross-contamination. Our dogs like the new food, but allergies are back to being a probelm. Do you think it is safe to go back to Natural Balance Duck and Potato or should I hang in there with the EaglePack?
June 10th, 2007 at 9:11 pm
To e wem:
Agreed, we are a captive market! But to be clear: HPN dry food is manufactured by Ohio Pet Foods, whose web-site says all their ingredients are USA grown/raised. One of my questions to HPN was whether they used OPF’s inventory, or supplied their own. They didn’t tell me, but did say that all food ingredients originate in the USA. It is their canned food which is manufactured by Menu.
As far as I know, the only foods not canned by a manufacturer we want to avoid are Merrick and Evangers (and any foods they can for others, like Canidae and Felidae).
June 10th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
to e wem: sorry, anonymous was me, Jean s.
June 10th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
Good advise Jean.
June 10th, 2007 at 10:32 pm
To Ya -Ya,
My cat loves Innova Evo dry, but I’ll pass along a caution my vet told me: it’s so high in protein, introduce it slowly: a sudden jump in protein level can cause a renal problem. I think this is especially important if someone is switching from a low or vegetable/grain based protein food. I combined it with Life’s Abundance for a few weeks, and even now, only feed it as half her daily dry–so I figure the protein level she’s eating is about 40% by now.
Also, isn’t Fromm the company that contracts with a human food canning plant in China? They had a letter about it on their web-site, but I can’t find it now. It’s like all references to China have been deleted. Does anyone else remember this?
June 10th, 2007 at 10:38 pm
Just my Opinion, But UNTIL this Food Nightmare and Fiasco is Dead and DONE for SURE, I’ll not buy Any of the Named OR Un-Usual {unnamed} Suspects. If they’ve been associated With a Recall even the Cross-contaminations,
NOPE, I’m not tryin’ or buyin’.
And Why would I when we’ve just learned about a New Poison in the Foods?
The Acetaminophen.
Even More Deadly than the previous ones!
AND as one Posted mentioned above, One company is tested their foods at MidWestLab {And That is FanDangTastic! BUT! MidWestLb does Test for Acetaminophen at all. I know as I just spoke to them at the MidWestLab on Friday and was Told it is Not even Possible to do so At Their Lab}
Why take an even Great chance right Now?
We don’t even Know *What Part of the Food* ingredients the Acetaminophen was In yet!
Grains, fillers, binders, gravy, supplements, etc etc etc.
Nope I’m not chancing anything right now. Got enough t handle with what I have had from the foods {not even recalled ones}
LOOK for Grain Frees that folks here recommend if folks need that.
I Might try the Dry INNOVA EVO for my Cat. {Never their Canned tho!}
I mentioned Fromm Family, might look good- they’ve got many formulas and flavors.
I will probably look at them as well. I found them at a Feed store bout 30 miles away.
KumpiKat is Good, but I’d like to try a- Grainless myself next bag of Dry.
Check the ItchmoForums.com for more recommened ones.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:01 pm
Jean, I didn’t see the note on the Fromm site, I hope you can find something!
I DID see picture of their bags in Chinese and Japanese print on one of their foreign sites: like .com.uk or .com.hk {that’s Hong Kong and the other England}
But are you saying they are making Human canned veggies etc IN *Mainland China*?
Thank you about the Innova Dry EVO, my Cat would be sparingly eating it, as she is now Addicted to my Homemade Wet LOL!
But still likes the dry to munch on now and then and gives me a Break if I have to leave. {plus she gets her vitamins and minerals per vet recommendations with the Dry if I miss anything}
I hate to leave wet food in the Summer even in AC house as it might ‘turn’ bad sitting out, being homemade.
She gets it twice a day now, and ’saves’ some of it for several hours before it’s All gone.
So EVO would be her less eaten food.
Other might want to consider feeding some veggies or something- to “dilute” the EVO proteins if that is All they feed.
I know the list for {Safe} Grainless is Very Short. sigh
June 10th, 2007 at 11:19 pm
Speaking of Where the Acetaminophen IS in the Foods tested {reports say some was Wet and some was Dry};
It just occurred to me that maybe the Acetaminophen is IN the Supplements {vitamins, minerals etc} they add to the foods, and those might come from a Pharmaceutical type Co.?
That’s closer to a “drug” company {for a drug} for possibly Where it came from, than a “gluten” company.
Just thinking here.