Nutro Pet Food Plant Protest

This past weekend, residents of Victorville, CA organized a protest against Nutro’s pet food plant in the area. Residents have complained about the odors coming from the plant since the plant opened in May 2006 and want the plant to be shut down.

The Mojave Desert Air Quality Management District gave Nutro another year to get rid of the rotten smell.

Residents have even said that they have to run inside their house to get away from the smell.

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(Thanks menusux)

41 Responses to “Nutro Pet Food Plant Protest”

  1. Kaffe says:

    People should protest about their lousy food too that has made so many pets sick… YEP! I think Nutro stinks too and I don’t mean just the aroma of the swivel they call petfood.

  2. Gundy says:

    If anyone wants a taste of what that smell is and they are in Cincinnati, just head to the John Morell meat processing plant in Springfield and sniff. They let loose some of the foulest, most chemical laden air I’ve ever had the displeasure to inhale (and I used to live in Los Angeles). You have to run inside the Best Buy or Dick’s Sporting Goods stores to get away from the stench!
    And that is coming from a HUMAN food factory, not an animal food factory. You can imagine how much worse that is.

  3. Robert Davis says:

    I’m glad that I don’t live in a stinky place like that and I hope a solution for everyone will be found. The community should be careful with the signs “Nutro shut down”. Sometimes what you wish for can really have a negative impact on neighbors - like being unable to put food on a table or pay for needed medications….

    Now, on the note of food processing - are other pet food processors having the same issues of smells? Are the smells coming from the cooking or from meat that has gone bad (and we all know what that smells like) and they are just using the bad meat anyway hoping the cooking will kill any of the bacteria?

  4. jane anderson says:

    That was my first thought too. I feed Wellness, does anyone live near where it is canned or could someone find out if there are noxious odors there?
    Jane

  5. 2CatMom says:

    At least some of Wellness food is canned by Menu Foods but at which facility they are doing it at now, don’t know.

  6. anon says:

    A company that makes deadly products and stinks so bad it ruins the lives of people who live in the area, gee, that sounds a lot like all the China manufacturing problems everyone was so up in arms about.

    No one seemed all that worried for the jobs of the Chinese who worked in the factories that got razed to the ground before they could be inspected. Not a word about how those folks needed to eat and buy medication.

    Maybe the Chinese do not monitor this site as closely as the PFI?

    Companies that spew poison and pollute, right here in the U.S. of A., what a shock.

    I guess people in Victorville would rather be able to take a breath without puking than save the jobs, they want Nutro out.

  7. MaineMom says:

    Why isn’t SOME agency investigating the cause behind the stench? Processing food should NOT smell bad. USDA, FSIS, FDA, whatever - some acronym should be on site finding out what is really going on in this plant!

  8. Robert Davis says:

    Anon had mentioned this was toxic fumes - I didn’t see that in the report - does anyone have any links to the air quality mgt to find out if toxins are being released and that is the cause of the smells?

  9. Gina says:

    I had no idea! I was feeding my boys pedigree without problems. I start nutro and my shepherd is puking nightly and has diarrhea. say what you want about cheap food like pedigree or beneful but my dogs never get sick on them. i will return the last bag of nutro and go back to pedigree or beneful.

  10. peace2us says:

    Gina,

    Out of a score of 100 for pet food quality, Beneful only scores 17. It has scored out as one of the worst pet foods I have ever seen.

    THE SCORING METHOD FOR DOG FOOD:
    How to grade your dog’s food: Start with a grade of 100:
    1) For every listing of “by-product” , subtract 10 points
    2) For every non-specific animal source (”meat” or “poultry”, meat, meal
    or
    fat) reference, subtract 10 points
    3) If the food contains BHA, BHT, or ethoxyquin, subtract 10 points
    4) For every grain “mill run” or non-specific grain source, subtract 5
    points
    5) If the same grain ingredient is used 2 or more times in the first
    five
    ingredients (I.e. “ground brown rice”, “brewers rice”, “rice flour” are
    all
    the same grain), subtract 5 points
    6) If the protein sources are not meat meal and there are less than 2
    meats
    in the top 3 ingredients, subtract 3 points
    7) If it contains any artificial colorants, subtract 3 points
    8 ) If it contains ground corn or whole grain corn, subtract 3points
    9) If corn is listed in the top 5 ingredients, subtract 2 more points
    10) If the food contains any animal fat other than fish oil, subtract 2
    points
    11) If lamb is the only animal protein source (unless your dog is
    allergic
    to other protein sources), subtract 2 points
    12) If it contains soy or soybeans, subtract 2 points
    13) If it contains wheat (unless you know that your dog is not allergic
    to
    wheat), subtract 2 points
    14) If it contains beef (unless you know that your dog is not allergic
    to
    beef), subtract 1 point
    15) If it contains salt, subtract 1 point

    Extra Credit:
    1) If any of the meat sources are organic, add 5 points
    2) If the food is endorsed by any major breed group or nutritionist, add
    5
    points
    3) If the food is baked not extruded, add 5 points
    4) If the food contains probiotics, add 3 points
    5) If the food contains fruit, add 3 points
    6) If the food contains vegetables (NOT corn or other grains), add 3
    points
    7) If the animal sources are hormone-free and antibiotic-free, add 2
    points
    8 ) If the food contains barley, add 2 points
    9) If the food contains flax seed oil (not just the seeds), add 2 points
    10) If the food contains oats or oatmeal, add 1 point
    11) If the food contains sunflower oil, add 1 point
    12) For every different specific animal protein source (other than the
    first one; count “chicken” and “chicken meal” as only one protein
    source, but “chicken” and “” as 2 different sources), add 1 point
    13) If it contains glucosamine and chondroitin, add 1 point
    14) If the vegetables have been tested for pesticides and are
    pesticide-free, add 1 point

    Score:
    94-100+ = A 86-93 = B 78-85 = C 70-77 = D 69 and below = F

  11. peace2us says:

    CONT:
    Authority Harvest Baked / Score 116 A+
    Bil-Jac Select / Score 68 F
    Canidae / Score 112 A+
    Chicken Soup Senior / Score 115 A+
    Diamond Maintenance / Score 64 F
    Diamond Lamb Meal & Rice / Score 92 B
    Diamond Large Breed 60+ Formula / Score 99 A
    Van Patten’s Natural Balance Ultra Premium / Score 122 A+
    Van Patten’s Duck and Potato / Score 106 A+
    Foundations / Score 106 A+
    Hund-n-Flocken Adult Dog (lamb) by Solid Gold / Score 93 B
    Iams Lamb Meal & Rice Formula Premium / Score 73 D
    Innova Dog / Score 114 A+
    Innova Evo / Score 114 A+
    Kirkland Signature Chicken, Rice, and Vegetables / Score 110 A+
    Nutrisource Lamb and Rice / Score 87 B
    Nutro Natural Choice Large Breed Puppy / Score 87 B
    Pet Gold Adult with Lamb & Rice / Score 23 F
    ProPlan Natural Turkey & Barley / Score 103 A+
    Purina Beneful / Score 17 F
    Purina Dog / Score 62 F
    Purina Come-n-Get It / Score 16 F
    Royal Canin Bulldog / Score 100 A+
    Royal Canin Natural Blend Adult / Score 106 A+
    Sensible Choice Chicken and Rice / Score 97 A
    Science Diet Advanced Protein Senior 7+ / Score 63 F
    Science Diet for Large Breed Puppies / Score 69 F
    Wellness Super5 Mix Chicken / Score 110 A+
    Wolfking Adult Dog (bison) by Solid Gold / Score 97 A

  12. peace2us says:

    Gina,

    Use the above listed info to rate what you have been using by reading each ingredient on the label.

    The following is taken directly from the Pedigree website. It is the nutritional label for their “Complete Nutrition” brand dry dog food:

    INGREDIENTS:
    GROUND WHOLE CORN, MEAT AND BONE MEAL, GROUND WHEAT, CORN GLUTEN MEAL, ANIMAL FAT (PRESERVED WITH BHA/BHT), WHEAT MILL RUN, WHEAT FLOUR, NATURAL FLAVOR, SALT, POTASSIUM CHLORIDE, CARAMEL COLOR, CHICKEN BY-PRODUCT MEAL, RICE, VEGETABLE OIL (SOURCE OF LINOLEIC ACID), VITAMINS (CHOLINE CHLORIDE, dl-ALPHA TOCOPHEROL ACETATE [SOURCE OF VITAMIN E], L-ASCORBYL-2-POLYPHOSPHATE [SOURCE OF VITAMIN C*], VITAMIN A SUPPLEMENT, THIAMINE MONONITRATE [VITAMIN B1], BIOTIN, d-CALCIUM PANTOTHENATE, RIBOFLAVIN SUPPLEMENT [VITAMIN B2], VITAMIN D3 SUPPLEMENT, VITAMIN B12 SUPPLEMENT), MINERALS (ZINC SULFATE, ZINC PROTEINATE, COPPER SULFATE, COPPER PROTEINATE, MANGANESE PROTEINATE, POTASSIUM IODIDE), ADDED FD&C AND LAKE COLORS (YELLOW 6, YELLOW 5, BLUE 2, RED 40).

    http://www.pedigree.com/01Real.....ood%2ctrue

    As you can see, this food would probably score out at a low F. It is basically a BAG OF CORN. 3 of the 4 first ingredients are grain rather then quality protien. Keep in mind a lot of dogs are allergic to wheat yet they have it as a prominent ingredient.

    Please find an A rated food from the list, or from somewhere else. Remember when you transition your dogs over, mix the new food with the old for 10-14 days beginning with a ratio of 30% new to 70% old and gradually increase the ratio towards the new.

    Here is a link to a fantastic website with a lot of good info on what to avoid in dog food: http://www.dogfoodproject.com/

    Good Luck,
    Peace.

  13. Denise says:

    I did not know that wellness was canned by Menu. Gina, I would get away from Menu foods its just to risky. I would go in to a small type specialy pet store not the big stores and talk to someone and find a food made by a small company. Be carful some of this stuff is really bad. we need to stop buying this stuff everyone and send a strong message. I still see people in the store buying this stuff and this company is still in business.

  14. Denise says:

    peace2us. thanks from posting that information. the wheat and gluttens ar very bad for animals. People still buy this stuff though and it really is not good for their dog and cats. Thanks for posting

  15. Robert Davis says:

    peace2us - who came up with that scoring system? For example - there is no scientific evidence proving organic based foods are safer and more nutritious than convential foods - in fact organic is not 100% so there is still some conventional in the organic foods. No poultry includes hormones or antibiotics prior to going into a rendering plant - none - zip - just a marketing ploy. Oats, barley - both grains are praised - yet corn is again crucified. Ground corn meal is just fine - whole corn would be a different story (i.e. the stuff we eat which we don’t even digest!). As well you mention we should add additional points if someones like a breed agency supports the food? Isn’t that like saying “vet approved” like how science diet helps fund vet students and many vets sale the food because it is either all they know or they make profits from the sell of the food. You also add points for Glucosamin! Not every pet needs this and most bags that include it only have a low theraputic level - if you really need Glucosamine you are buying brands like Dasuquin or Cosaquin as a supplement to the food! You also state to subtract points for beef - beef is an excellent amino acid and protein source….I don’t know - I think your scoring system has a lot of holes in it and doesn’t sound very scientific.

    Kind Regards,
    Robert

  16. MaineMom says:

    peace2us - an inquiring mind wants to know, where Solid Gold cat and dog, wet and dry products fall in your scoring system?

  17. Robert Davis says:

    peace2us - i hope I didn’t come across in a negative way - I appreciate that you care very much and when I said “your scoring system” that was probably the wrong words - please don’t hold it against me :-)

  18. Anonymous says:

    Robert,

    No offense taken at all from your post. It is a scoring system I found posted on a the MSNBC blogs when the pet food recall first happened last year. I do not know the original author, but much of what is on the list can be supported here: http://www.dogfoodproject.com/index.php?page=main

    I also found a natural pet food store here in Orlando, and I have learned much from the staff there that supports what’s on the score sheet. I also cannot argue the amazing difference I have seen in my two dogs and 4 cats since I’ve switched them to A rated foods. Much less shedding, less poop, my one dog used to vomit all the time, he has only done so once in the last year since I’ve switched. One of my cats Jax, age 12, who I call the “prima donna b*tch” :) actually has become more social!! That was an interesting change.

    My main point to get accross is that as consumers we have to read the labels and we must avoid pet foods that are made up mostly of grains. Dogs and Cats need quality protein and although they do get grain in their diets it should not be a grain based diet. A food that has a first ingredient of Ground Yellow Corn like Science Diet or Pedigree is not a healthy choice.

    Some of the feedback I’ve gotten from people who have switched from “high end” store brands to brands that score high on the score sheet are:

    -Elimination of bad breath.
    -Less poop and Poop dissipates faster in the back yard.
    -Reduction in shedding
    -Elimination of “hot spots”
    -Fuller, healthier coats
    -(for cats) urine odor not as strong
    -higher energy levels

    The reason why beef is considered a negative is because apparently many dogs are allergic to it. Wheat and/or beef are two common allergins for dogs.

    Corn is tough for anyone to digest, and if it is on a pet food label it should not be anywhere near the first ingredient like it is on so many major brands. It’s a filler, not a quality protein and a food should not be based on it.

    The score sheet says to give points if a major breed group or nutrionist endorses the food. It doesn’t mention vets. I would not rely soley on a breed group but a nutritionists advice would be compelling. Not a vet however, for the very reasons you mentioned.

  19. peace2us says:

    CONT:

    “As for Meat by-products: Meat by-products are ground and cleaned slaughtered meat carcass parts such as necks, feet, undeveloped eggs, bones, heads, and intestines (and a small amount of feathers in the case of chicken meat). The terms meat by-products or animal by-products are often used in reference to the ingredients included in commercial pet foods.

    The definition for meat by-products by the Association of American Feed Control Officials is:

    The non-rendered, clean parts, other than meat, derived from slaughtered mammals. It includes, but is not limited to, lungs, spleen, kidneys, brain, livers, blood, bone, partially defatted low temperature fatty tissue, and stomachs and intestines freed of their contents. It does not include hair, horns, teeth and hoofs. It shall be suitable for use in animal food. If it bears name descriptive of its kind, it must correspond thereto.

    In many cases, by-product meals are derived from “4-D” meat sources[citation needed] — defined as food animals that have been rejected for human consumption because they were presented to the meat packing plant as “Dead, Dying, Diseased or Disabled.”[citation needed] The quality of animal meat by-products also tends to be very inconsistent between batches.[citation needed]

    Meat by-products are commonly found in lower-grade pet foods and even many of the larger name brands, including Science Diet (even their prescription diet product line), Purina (both Purina One and Purina Pro Plan), Iams and Eukanuba. Ingredients listed as “meat, beef, chicken, and/or poultry by-products” on pet food labels are not required to include actual meat, and “rendered meat” on labels can refer to any rendered mammal meat, including dogs and cats.[dubious – discuss][citation needed]

    A new category of pet food typically marketed as holistic, wellness, organic, ultra healthy, and/or simply premium pet food often emphasizes the use of human-grade meat sources only, with no animal meat by-products.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meat_by-product

    ALSO:

    “Definition: Meat By-Products are parts of slaughtered animals, not including meat (please note: no muscle meat included). Included are lungs, spleen, kidneys, brain, liver, blood, bone, partially defatted low-temperature fatty tissue, and stomach and intestines freed of their contents.
    What AAFCO doesn’t mention is that meat byproducts may also legally contain: “4D animals (dead, dying, diseased, down), road kill, euthanized cats and dogs, including their collars. These source products are rendered, the fat is siphoned off to be used as “animal fat,” and the remaining material is extruded to form “meat by-product meal.”
    “Meat,” by definition, is limited to the meats of cows, swine, sheep, and goats.”
    Also Known As: Meat By-Product Meal” http://cats.about.com/od/catfo.....byprod.htm

  20. peace2us says:

    CONT:

    Bottom line, the score sheet is an excellent guideline to go by as opposed to simply believing the hype of the major pet food companies. (as I did for so long)

    I don’t recommend a specific brand but I will say I had absolutely NO idea how many HEALTHIER choices there were for my pets until this recall.

    but I’m rambling….. :)

    TO MAINE MOM:

    Best I can tell for Solid Gold (I used their Hund-n-Flocken Adult Dog (lamb) for an example) it scores at or over 100 points. I couldn’t find any negatives to subtract points. And based on the label I was able to add a few points for: fruits, veggies, flaxseed, oatmeal.

    Lamb | Lamb Meal | Brown Rice | Cracked Pearled Barley | Millet | Rice Bran | Oatmeal | Ocean Fish Meal | Canola Oil | Tomato Pomace | Flaxseed | Natural Flavor | Salmon Oil (source of DHA) | Choline Chloride | Taurine | Dried Chicory Root | Parsley Flakes | Pumpkin Meal | Almond Oil | Sesame Oil | Yucca Schidigera Extract | Thyme | Blueberries | Cranberries | Carrots | Broccoli | Vitamin E Supplement | Iron Proteinate | Zinc Proteinate | Copper Proteinate | Ferrous Sulfate | Zinc Sulfate | Copper Sulfate | Potassium Iodide | Thiamine Mononitrate | Manganese Proteinate | Manganous Oxide | Ascorbic Acid | Vitamin A Supplement | Biotin | Calcium Panthothenate | Manganese Sulfate | Sodium Selenite | Pyridoxine Hydrochloride | Vitamin B12 Supplement | Riboflavin Supplement | Vitamin D Supplement | Folic Acid |

    I was curious as to what “Millet” is. It looks like a filler that does not contain gluten has the same amount of protien as wheat, but also has B vitamins.

    “The protein content in millet is very close to that of wheat; both provide about 11% protein by weight.
    Millets are rich in B vitamins, especially niacin, B6 and folic acid, calcium, iron, potassium, magnesium, and zinc. Millets contain no gluten, so they cannot rise for bread. When combined with wheat or xanthan gum (for those who have coeliac disease), though, they can be used for raised bread. Alone, they are suited for flatbread.
    As none of the millets are closely related to wheat, they are appropriate foods for those with coeliac disease or other forms of allergies/intolerance of wheat. However, millets are also a mild thyroid peroxidase inhibitor and probably should not be consumed in great quantities by those with thyroid disease.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millet

  21. mittens says:

    some of the companies that scored highest in the above example also had products that were recalled, products that killed pets. it sort of renders the scoring meaningless if you’re ultimate objective happens to be not to kill your pet with food.

    i absolutely refuse to buy ANYTHING made by menu foods even if it’s some organic, people grade feed. i don’t care how organic and protein filled they are or how high they score on someone’s scale of quality. people should realize the lists of those who use menu for their canning - many of the so called independent and ‘ higher quality ‘ brands in particular- are still up. when in doubt, look at the pet food list.

    cats and dogs are meat eaters. there’s nothing wrong with feeding them beef. protein is the point with cats especially. when confronted with bags of dried cat food( bad bad bad for cats) and it has freakin’ cranberries( very popular in ‘organic’ and ‘ natural’ dried cat foods which is particularly ironic because dried kibble is in no way part of a feline ‘ natural’ diet. giant baked biscuits didnt roll around the wilds of africa in bc whatever for their wild ancestors to have hunted.) in it i think - when is a cat going to eat a flippin cranberry of it’s own will? who cares if it’s ‘ natural’ sounding. they also do not need veggies and oats and a parade of grains- they just don’t. including them just makes people of a certain generation feel good because to them ‘ meat is bad/ fruits and veggies are good” period. it’s as much a political concept as anything and has no bearing on the real nutritional needs of cats and dogs. it’s human projection- and what’s good for humans or at least good for fragile politically corrected human psyches is not necessarily nutritionally best for puss and pup.

    i don’t know if it’s been discussed in the forum but i noticed Purina changed the material it’s big bags of cat chow come in. it’s not that regular sort of heavy paper sack but a plastic woven one now. less porous and susceptible to contamination? it just made me start to think why the change after all that’s happened and all the still unanswered questions of who and how.

  22. e wem says:

    People on this site have such good information. Does anyone know of a site or place that lists who makes the various cat foods. Like Wellness being made by Menu. My notes are a mess.

    I am so angry at Nutro. My cats ate Max Cat kibbles for years because one of them had trouble with other brands. In the recall year they all suddenly refused to eat Max Cat dry so I was giving them Nutro pouches, IAMs, and Pounce (all recalled and they got sick). A friend’s kitten died of kidney failure eating only Max Cat dry.

    I make most of their food but I also started feeding them Whiskas Purrfectly Fish pouches because it was supposed to be fish only. Suddenly the big guy started throwing up water (like during the recall) and the little one was laying on her side hanging her head. Whiskas fish is out.

    Now I am searching again for a back up food that won’t kill them.

    Nutro is the worst

  23. peace2us says:

    Mittens,

    Good post. The hard part is finding a good food made by a company that not affected by the recall. I still believe the list is a good GUIDELINE as far as how to rank ingredients. Any food that starts out with grains is garbage. As you said, cats and dogs are meat eaters, they need protein. They do get some grain however in their diets. For instance if a cat eats a mouse, s/he will invariably ingest whatever grains where in the mouse’s system.

    Some dogs are allergic to beef so it would not be a good idea to say any dog could eat beef. Some dogs can eat grapes and chocolate but for others it means instant death.

    Cranberries are included in a lot of foods because they are known to aid in urinary tract health. Yes, cats in the wild probably did not have access to cranberries but then cats in the wild don’t live as long as indoor cats.

    BTW, My cats don’t eat kibble. They eat a beef and salmon (sometimes chicken and salmon) raw food made by Primal Foods and they love it.

    So there are two fronts to this battle:

    Is the food a bag of worthless grains, not quality protein (like most major commercial brands on the market see above pedigree label for ref.)

    AND

    As you stated, was the manufacturer affected by the recall and what are their quality standards?

    Even, If the recall had never happened however, the quality of the ingredients in major pet food brands are still sub par and are slowly killing our pets.

  24. peace2us says:

    E Wem

    Here’s a link the the FDA website that shows the name of what pet food brands were recalled. http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/.....oodrecall/
    If you are cooking for your pets there are a ton of websites offering tips and neat recipes. Yahoo has a group that discusses home cooking for pets

    As far as the Whiskas Purrfectly Fish: Ingredients from their website:
    Ingredients
    Sufficient Water For Processing, Tuna, Soy Oil, Tricalcium Phosphate, Carrageenan, Cassia Gum, Guar Gum, Sodium Tripolyphosphate, Potassium Chloride, Glycine, Disodium EDTA, Natural Flavor, Vitamins (dl-Alpha Tocopherol Acetate [Source of Vitamin E], Thiamine Mononitrate [Vitamin B1], Pyridoxine Hydrochloride [Vitamin B6], Riboflavin Supplement [Vitamin B2], Folic Acid), Sodium Nitrite (for color retention), Minerals (Manganese Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate), BHA/BHT (a preservative).
    ——–

    So water is the main ingredient followed by Tuna. Tricalcium phosphate is “bone ash”- Ground up bone? Potassium Chloride is salt. Glycine is an amino acid. EDTA is a preserving agent also also used as a chemical cleaning agent.
    And BHA/BHT at the end- a KNOWN CARCINOGEN. Should not be on any label of pet food.

    “In general, foods will spoil without some form of temperature control or preservatives. BHA, BHT, and ethoxyquin are chemical antioxidants designed to extend the shelf life and reduce fat spoilage (rancidity) of pet foods and pet treats. Chemical additives and artificial preservatives such as BHA, BHT, and ethoxyquin may cause dry skin, allergic reactions, dental disease, and poor health, as well as stimulate adverse effects on liver and kidney functions.
    Specifically, BHA, short for Butylated Hydroxyanisole, and BHT, Butylated Hydroxytoluene, are both artificial preservatives added to oils to slow down deterioration. BHA and BHT (as well as ethoxyquin) are used in numerous pet food brands, including both “premium-grade” brands like Science Diet (even their prescription diet product line) and lower-grade brands like Alpo and Pedigree, to replace vitamin E, which is removed during oil processing. Studies have shown that BHA and BHT promote liver disease and other medical problems.

    Ethoxyquin is a chemical preservative – and possible carcinogenic – regulated by the FDA (U.S. Food and Drug Administration) as a pesticide. While ethoxyquin cannot be used in human foods, it continues to be used in many pet food brands. Ethoxyquin has been found to promote kidney carcinogenesis and significantly increase the incidence of stomach tumors and enhanced bladder carcinogesis, according to several studies, including a recent one by The Department of Pathology, Nagoya City University Medical School, Japan.
    Did You Know?
    Under a typical pet food diet, the average dog (44 lbs) can consume 26 lbs of preservatives a year! The FDA currently allows only a trace amount of ethoxyquin residue (.5 to 5 ppm) in human consumed foods, yet it allows high amounts (150 ppm) to be used in pet food and livestock feeds. Of note, in 1997, the FDA’s Center for Veterinary Medicine (CVM) made a request to manufacturers of ethoxyquin and the pet food industry to voluntarily lower ethoxyquin residue in pet foods to 75 parts per million (ppm). To date, there is still no mandatory requirement to meet the voluntary request.
    Note: Rather than listing it as an ingredient on the packaging, some dog food manufacturers simply print “E” to represent ethoxyquin.” http://www.aplus-flint-river-r.....?win=small
    ———-
    No wonder your cat threw up. I hope he is feeling better :>~
    If you are going to stop cooking for them, try a local feed store or a smaller holistic pet food store and research what’s available. None of the brands you find at the big retailers are going to be quality.

  25. Sandi K says:

    e wem, I think this might be helpful to you. It is a list of foods that the site owner actually called and got all the info for the foods listed at the time of the recalls. It tells who made the food. This is it: http://www.thepetfoodlist.com/ Also, e wem, you might want to go to the Itchmo forums if you havent already. They have a huge section of foods listed that people have experienced with their pets and its hugely valuable, I think you would enjoy it. It helped me pick good food out for our new kitten that steers away from Menu Foods. I’ve also met some wonderful people that helped me while our kitten was ill.

    Peace2us, you might want to add a disclaimer of sorts to that list if you ever post it again just so people that might read it and dont know alot about the food and recall issues dont mistakenly choose a brand made by Menu if they are looking to avoid them. There’s been a lot of work done here to inform people, I would hate to see that work undone. Diamond, Iams, Nutro and many others on that list were involved in the recalls and had food that killed and sickened thousands of pets. Also, I see some issues with the rules. Its says if the food is endorsed by a breed group or nutritionist add points. We have all learned thru this recall that just because someone is called a nutritionist, doesnt make them an expert on pet food. It says if the food contains barley and oatmeal, add points. Why add points for those things? I appreciate your effort in steering people to better pet food but I think you’re fully capable of doing that with the info you can provide rather than by posting that scoring list and the subsequent brand list that includes products from Nutro and Menu Foods and certain other companies that have shown no compassion that their food killed and sickened people’s pets and to date have shown no intention of changing the way they do business nor the ingredients they put in pet food.

  26. peace2us says:

    Sandi,

    The list should be used as an ingredient guideline. It’s information that provides some very good knowledge on how to select a food. Folks can use some or all of the information as they see fit. Just because a pet food company was not involved in the recall it does not mean they make a quality product and vice versa. We can tell this by looking at the ingredient labels of most major brands.

    I don’t endorse any brand and the reason I posted the entire list as it was first posted on the MSNBC blogs is because I’m not going to edit anything.

    The problem is that so many people think that the only options they have are the brands they see in the big chain stores or supermarkets. When I first saw the list I had never seen some of the brand names before in my life. Then I found a small pet food store here locally that specializes in healthy pet foods. I went in, talked with the staff, researched the products, read labels, conducted “taste tests” with the my dogs and cats and settled on what they liked. The changes in my animals have been phenomenal as a result.

    I think the scoring results portion of the list is helpful because you can see the very obvious trend of where common “high end” brands (i.e: Beneful) score much lower than the brands not available for sale where most people get their food. It was quite an eye opener for me. Then I began to look at the labels to understand WHY the “high end” brands scored so much lower. I looked at the prescription Science Diet (vet ordered) my dogs were eating and saw the first ingredient was “ground yellow corn.” Well, that explained quite a bit, I was feeding my protein needing dogs a bag of corn. (a carbohydrate). No wonder my oldest suffered from constant bouts of diarrhea and vomiting. Which he thankfully no longer does. It was all about the food.

    And this is what angers me just as much as any recall ever could: That the pet food industry has been selling us bags of garbage for our animals that they have marketed as healthy and good. If you go to their websites and check any of the labels of these “high end” brands you will see the same recurring MAIN ingredients of all types of grains, fillers, and by-products, and additives that have been slowly killing our pets for years. And I bought it hook, line, and sinker because of the pretty pictures and impressive words printed on the bags. And without the recall I, and many others would have never realized this.

    The list provides knowledge. And knowledge is power. I hope people use the list to jump start themselves into asking questions and reading labels.

  27. peace2us says:

    To me, a company that puts a bunch of poor ingredients not fit for human consumption in a bag with pretty pictures and labels and markets that as quality food for our beloved pets, is just as guilty as a company that would allow poison to enter the pet food supply.

  28. Sandi K says:

    Peace2us, yes the list and scoring rules provide knowledge, but it also is misleading and potentially innacurate info. This Kirkland products rates 110 on the list but yet it has white rice……Kirkland Signature Chicken, Rice, and Vegetables,why is that?

    Im just saying that I think its dangerous to try to classify foods on a list, and to give more points for things that are not necessarily good things, its misleading. I think, for people coming here for the first time, its unfair to them to put things on a list rating them at 110 points when rice is not necessarily a good thing to have in the food and when its not made fully clear that certain food on that list is manufactured by a company that was involved in the largest recall ever. I am in total agreement with you that even if a food wasnt involved in the recalls, doesnt make it good if there is junk for ingredients. But you have food on that list, rated pretty high, that does have junk for ingredients so that scoring system is flawed. So while I agree knowledge is power, I think there are lots of other way to determine if a food is good without using a scoring system that has flaws and without representing that a certain food is considered good when it is manufactured by a company that doesnt care what goes into that food. For anyone wanting or needing guidelines on food choices, the forums have lots of valuable info that people have already researched and experienced.

    You stated this “And this is what angers me just as much as any recall ever could: That the pet food industry has been selling us bags of garbage for our animals that they have marketed as healthy and good.” That “any recall” killed our kitty so I feel pretty angry about it all. Whats strange, is if we had been feeding Fancy Feast, she would have been with us today. Thankfully pet food labeling and ingredient issues is one of the focuses of many folks including Mike Floyd with www.defendourpets.org.

  29. Anonymous says:

    I live within 3 miles of the MARS/NUTRO pet food processing plant in Victorville, Ca.
    They operate 24/7. We have endured this gross smell for 2 years now. We can’t put up with another year of this awful smell. Our kids can’t even eat lunch outside at school.
    The stench makes after school sports impossible.

    Nutro is owned by the huge MARS, Inc and they can certainly afford to pay their employees while they shut down to make the necessary repairs. We have suffered so now it’s their turn to share the pain.

  30. Robert Davis says:

    Anon,

    I agree 2 years is long enough - an agreement of repair should have been made long before that. I did not realize it had been going on that long.

    Robert

  31. kathy says:

    Gina please get your poor dog off the nutro!!!! That’s how my Curly Joe started, 2 months later he died a very painful death. Nutro Max Natural Lamb and Rice Large Breed Adult Small Chunks.

  32. Donnell says:

    I live in Las Vegas. When searching for houses, I found a gorgeous house–3000+ square feet, big back yard, less than $350,000. Then, as I learned more about the community and ASKED questions, I learned that there was a pig farm less than a mile from this house. I immediately changed my mind about this house and looked in a different area of the city. My point is that Nutro was zoned for this area. Did homeowners bother to look at the zoning parameters? The City of Victorville wanted the industry and wanted the growth and now residents are blaming Nutro because of their poor planning? Hmmm

  33. loveholistic says:

    Victorville is a hellhole. I don’t think you are smelling pet food rather you are smelling all the crystal meth being made. The plant was there first and the people who bought those houses knew that they were moving near a pet food plant. I have no patience for anyone crying after the fact. If Nutro was not there the only other industry would be drugs. So suck it up.

  34. R.T. says:

    EXCUSE ME! Loveholistic why don’t you gogle Victorville. I live in what was a million dollar home long before the plant moved in. The Spring Valley Lake area (yes that is correct our homes are on a lake) is just east of the plant. Some homes have been here 25+ years. The MARS/NUTRO was built 3 years ago. So no one is crying after the fact. How dare you tell us to suck it up. YOU DON’T HAVE A CLUE!
    Come on Donnell none of us would knowing move into a location such as this. LISTEN UP PEOPLE! The lake and our homes were here first.
    Nutro lied when they said they would not create any odor. This was a beautiful area
    (no crack houses here) until Nutro came. Now the lawns are full of for sale signs, yet
    like you said no one wants to live in this stink. The value of our homes are down not just because of the market but because of the STINCH.
    We wouldn’t wish this on you so why do you have to be so RUDE to us poor souls that have to endure this?

  35. Chris says:

    Its funny how people love to post information that is not true to stir up peoples emotions. The Nutro plant in Victorville is not a “meat processing plant”. It is a gaint bakery for dog food. Everything that comes in has already been processed. They do not can any wet food in that plant. The home values in the Victorville area dropping have nothing to do with the “order of the plant”. There are over 7,500 repos in the high desert and many new homes being built. The repos are gowing up everyday because there are not enough high paying jobs in the valley. Get the facts straight. This same group of people that is protesting the “odor” also complained about the “odor” of hamburgers being cooked when they built a Carl’s Jr, and an In-n-out resturant a few years back. This community of Spring Valley Lake is run by a group of homeowners that feel they are better than everyone else in the high desert, the city of Victorville won’t even incorporate them into the city limits.

  36. Chris says:

    Oh by the way the claims that it smells so bad everyday and that they can not go outside is complete crap as well. I attend a three day dog show put on by the Apple Valley Kennel Club and sponsered by the “EVIL NUTRO” at Victor Valley College( less then three miles from the plant) a few weekends ago, there was not a single smell of cooking dog food in the air. These people are so full of themselves. Why don’t they sue all the beer compaines, ever smelled the Miller brewery in Irwindale when they release, how about a Webers bread bakery, anything you cook has an order. Nutro is not breaking any laws or producing anything toxic and releasing it into the air. They have spent millions to make this small group of “better than the rest of us” residents happy. They haven’t been sued into doing anything they are doing it to be good neighbors. Maybe they should stop buying all baked products of any kind because where ever those products are being made somebody has to deal with the smell. The land has always been zoned for industrial use, even before the Nutro plant was built it was industrial. The city of Victorville wanted Nutro to built on that site so why aren’t the residents suing the city. The mayor’s claim of visiting the Nutro plant in Leabon, TN and not smelling anything is a complete lie. That plant, as in any plant where something is being baked or extruded has a smell. The mayor and the city are covering their asses and don’t want to fess up to the truth.

  37. Evalynn says:

    Does anyone know anything about Eagle Pack brand dog food?

  38. Steve says:

    Chris,

    Speaking of people that don’t know what they’re talking about, you have a few whoppers in your statements from Mar 22! I live in SVL and you don’t know what you are talking about. No one has ever said the smell is always present - it might be gone for several days and then appear for several days in a row. So you being anywhere for 3 days and saying there is no problem is meaningless. Did you know AQMD received over 600 complaints about the Nutro smell in April 2007?

    And Chris, have you ever heard of obeying the law? That’s that pesky little thing that all honest companies that do business in California have to do. And it turns out there’s one under CA Health & Safety Code pertaining to air quality that they have violated. As I’m sure you know, AQMD investigated and issued a Notice of Violation to Nutro for violating the law.

    What do you think it does to home prices when a seller is required by law to declare that the house is located near a dog food plant? Do you think that helps sales and prices?

    What is so difficult to understand that people have a right to enjoy their property without having to smell dog food odors? We choose to stand up for our rights pal, even if you don’t like it.

  39. Steve says:

    Chris - I almost forgot. Your statement “This community of Spring Valley Lake is run by a group of homeowners that feel they are better than everyone else in the high desert, the city of Victorville won’t even incorporate them into the city limits.” is a little off the mark. The facts are that years ago Victorville WANTED to annex SVL and SVL told Victorville no thanks. I have spoken to many people who were there when it happened. You obviously don’t do your homework before you make claims do you?

  40. qt hounds says:

    Wow…this is crazy!

    Did Victoriville want Nutro?

    Yes.

    Did Victorville want the jobs?

    Yes.

    Did Victorville want the revenue?

    Yes.

    Did you elect your city officials who wanted the big business in Victorville?

    Yes.

    It all comes back to the citizens.
    You don’t vote, you don’t have a voice!

    and RT: Have you seen the home market? Homes in SoCal, Las Vegas and Phoenix that once sold for a million dollars are now only worth about $200k…it is NOT the Nutro plant that brought your property down, it is the bursting of the housing bubble. People like you want to send jobs to Mexico–you have choices. Victorville committed to the business, so they should see it through.

    Evalynn: Eagle Pack: Not as great as Nutro. Those who criticise Nutro food have no idea what you are talking about. Nutro has one of the best performance records in the industry. No ground yellow corn; no chicken heads, feet or intestines–which may be found in the foods YOU feed your dogs. I have had excellent experiences using Nutro and will continue to use it on my dogs and cats.

  41. kcwest says:

    qt hounds is obviously from Nutro and hasn’t checked out the consumer affairs. com website to see what Nutro users are stating about the latest use of their products. I know people who feed Pedigree and their goldens live to be 16 and on so if you just pay attention to the condition of your pet and not the marketing you’ll do fine. I know people whose pets do terribly on the best premium pet food out there so…….just pay attention.


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