They took my call within 30 seconds and explained that the wheat gluten contained a product used in making plastic and certain poisons that was supposed to increase the protein content.

This was only done on the canned and pouch foods.

I was told that their dry foods are manufactured in either California or Tennessee and do not contain wheat gluten.

It’s apparent that they’ve taken a new approach to handling inquires, but I still don’t feel safe, so I’ve switched to Canidae for my Boxer, Cooper!

I couldn’t understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting

And I guess I am still just so cynical. In my heart I know that contacting places like BBB can only be good. I just feel so let down and betrayed by all of these agencies that have just sat on their hands and done nothing. Even the news shows arent covering it anymore. I guess they think there are bigger and better things to move onto or they are so tired of being stone-walled also that they gave up. Why didnt 60 Minutes do anything on this? I and many others contacted them. I guess I am losing hope that her awful death will ever truly matter to those people.

I am aware of your efforts and that post of mine was NOT directed at you. Those who it WAS and IS directed at are aware of who they are and my restraint in not posting some things said in other, private, forums.

I have not and will not copy and paste the offending items but there are people who do not share my ethics and I am happy to report that it seems most of the more ill advised statements have been removed. They may have been archived, that was mentioned, and they are very damaging, but I had and have no interest in such “ugly” mementos of what has been an exceptionally ugly 6 months already.

The point was made that action IS being taken and that either we pull together or we pull apart.
The elitist stuff about how a “professional pet rescuer” matters more than others who have suffered losses has been quashed by the fact that a lot of the folks who are not “professional animal rescuers” did, by count, take EXACTLY the same action and it counts just as much.

People who NEED the truth are being driven away from the few places to GET that help and I wanted it stopped before I make my final posts tomorrow.

I did what I thought was best and it did some good along the way.

Had I wished to address you, or anyone, by name , I would have done so.

E., I know you have lost pets from these murderers but so have I. I lost my KiKi in March. Please dont categorize me as whining and full of hot air. I have done more than my share and will continue to do so. I am one of the few that contacted Nutro back before all this was even known about as I suspected something wrong with the food back in December, I just didnt know what it was. I havent heard of a lot of people that did that, not that it did any good mind you. I have contacted newspapers, senators, TV shows, FDA, CDC, Dept of Agriculture, to name just a few. So while I think its great if everyone contacts the BBB, Im not sure what can come of it. If its a return call from the pet food company, no thanks! And why does it take lots of people contacting the BBB for them to do something about it? They have known about this just as long as the rest of us have and what have they done up to now? So far they have done just as much as all the rest of the agencies that know about this. Nothing. I wish I had known back in Dec the food was poison but I contacted 4 different Universities, the pet food company and several veterinarians to no avail. So please dont accuse me of doing nothing, my heart is just as broken as yours.

I have a Freedom of Information Act request in to the FDA on the mystery substances and so have been stonewalled on disclosure.

So what is the “poisonous” substance? And what is the “unsafe” substance?

According to Nutro melamine is not involved. Does this sound exactly like the ExperTox results? As in acetaminophen and cyanuric acid? Acetaminophen being poisonous and cyanuric acid being an unapproved additive. Inquiring minds would like to know.

Consumer Affairs is one of the few honest media outlets left in this country.

It took them HOW long to get the story straight?
The truth is easy, lies take time.
And quite a few of us had no idea of the truth until our pets took the dirt nap.

We know now.
It was an expensive education.

Forgiveness cannot be given until it is sincerely asked and amends offered.
That is not the case here.
Every day that those crucial steps are not made the ..rift widens.

When I told the vet his diet was Nutro Ultra, she was not impressed. I had never heard anything negative about Nutro products. Before the recall they had a really good reputation and if you look at the ingredients in Nutro Ultra on the surface they look really good. But looking closer you find that the food is “crap” for lack of a nicer word.

So, it really doesn’t surprise me that Nutro’s crappy products have been stopped at the port. Because if the product on the boats really was recalled product from overseas, one would think that the manifests would indicate this “small” fact. Because if the shipping manifests showed that this was in fact recalled product, why would the FDA stop it from being returned? Maybe I’m just naive, but Nutro hasn’t explained this debacle to my satisfaction.

The folks at Nutro must think we are all stupid. You would think that after the recall mess, they would not try anything as idiotic as this. Nutro, we are not stupid. If you want to regain any of your reputation try putting out a decent product that people can learn to trust. Although, you have permanently lost my business there may be some others out there who will forgive you. You can always hope.

There ARE plenty of newbies being enlightened on the pet food company shady tactics (hah) and horrified by some of the goings on.
I gotta tell you, some of the people I have introduced to the pet food rebellion do some cruel nasty , morally very bad things with photoshop that just lay me on the floor and make me fear for my nice undies!

Old ladies like me should NOT be getting those things in the email, and especially when I am trying to type!

Thanks everyone, I laughed so hard that I HURT!

Call me E., just E. If I have to cross my legs to keep from wetting my panties while trying to type a reply, I figure it is the equivalent of a social introduction.

Yeah, I’ve seen the sign that says “Don’t feed the trolls.” I just thought I’d interject a dash of reality for the benefit of (real!) newbies and those Googling or newsfeeding their way to these comments.

I love that link, btw.

She is a troll, the pet food companies or the PFI sent in herds of them today, some sort of hire the handicapped deal, they probably got a tax write off for it.

Unless you WANT to play with them, much like whack-a-mole (pronounced, in this case, whack -a -troll, doo whacka, doowhacka, doowhacka doo) just post this link

http://users.wolfcrews.com/toys/vikings/

Months ago, many of us practically kept a *vigil* over scores of manufacturer’s websites. No more. We’ve moved on…for good.

Any company whose initial — oh, and secondary — “safety checks” were insufficient to prevent the mass poisoning of pets will never get another cent of my money. And that goes DOUBLE for any company that refuses to acknowledge a past or present problem with its non-recalled (or is that *silently* recalled?) products.

By the way, LisaLisa, do you happen to know if Nutro has FINALLY begun putting “food” in bags and cans that actually match the formulations stated in the ingredient lists?

Hon, I get tired too. BUT, look at it this way.

Today they sent in TEAMS of trolls, must be doing something right to get em that mad!

The trolls would not be here if this was not worrying the folks I want to worry.

Got some fun for Friday, oh, about 5PM, planned too!
Hang in there.
And thanks for the BBB complaints, spread the word!!