Pet Deer Seized From Oregon Family

Bucky and Snowball

An Oregon family pleaded and begged with police and wildlife officers for eight hours on Wednesday to keep their two pet deer, Snowball and Bucky.

But the family lost their fight to keep their pets, and now they are utterly heartbroken. Authorities took Snowball, a 6-year-old doe, and Bucky, her yearling buck, away from their home.

The animals will be evaluated by veterinarians. They will either be transferred to a licensed wildlife facility, released into the wild or euthanized.

Under Oregon state law, it is illegal to keep most wildlife in captivity without a permit.

Wildlife officials said there were health and disease concerns with keeping deer as pets. They added that the deer “belong to everybody in the state of Oregon, not just a few people.”

Six years ago, while Jim Filipetti was driving with his children, he saw a white fawn with brown spots lying on the roadside. She was weak and had deformed back legs and hooves that curved inward. This deformity caused her pain and injuries when she tried to walk.

Filipetti took the fawn and brought her to a veterinarian. The veterinarian fit her deformed legs with tiny casts to straighten them. The family put carpet scraps on the floors to prevent Snowball from sliding. She even nibbled at their Christmas tree. Snowball was part of the family.

Snowball lived in the house for almost a year. She slept at the family’s bed and learned from Tasha, the family cocker spaniel. She pawed at people with her hoof when she wanted some attention.

After awhile, the family then moved Snowball to the yard. She mated with a blind buck, Mr. Magoo, who also lived with the family for some time before he died.

Bucky, her offspring, was born, and the two shared their yard with pot-bellied pigs and roosters.

But in March, authorities received an anonymous tip that the family was keeping deer on their property. State troopers inspected the property in April.

In some incidences, the state allows licenses to residents to care for deer or elk, but the state limits the number of licenses to 16, and there are none available. Also, animals must be legally required which the family did not do.

Both deer are friendly, but Snowball acts more like a dog than a deer. Authorities do not think that Snowball could survive on her own in the wild, so they are looking for a zoo or wildlife refuge for her to go to. If they cannot find a place for her, she would most likely be euthanized. It seems that Bucky is suitable for relocation in the wild.

There has been public outcry over the authorities seizing the deer from the family. Many Oregon residents said that Snowball and Bucky should be returned to the family especially if the state may euthanize the deer. They said the family took care of the deer and treated them like pets, and they should be granted permission to keep them.

UPDATE: The Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife Director Roy Elicker put out a statement this morning saying that the deer will not be euthanized. They are looking at all types of options and one of those options may be returning the deer back to the family. But they reiterated that euthanasia would not be an option.

An Itchmo reader, Lynn, contacted the Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife, and this is the email response that she received:

We have received your comments regarding the two black-tailed deer that were being held illegally at a private residence in Molalla. We are working to find a solution that recognizes the families’ attachment to the animals, but is in the best interest of the two deer and all of Oregon’s wildlife.

Director Roy Elicker has publicly stated that the two deer will not be euthanized. State veterinarians are now caring for the deer. They are assessing their health and determining whether they have any diseases that may be harmful to them or to other wildlife. Those results are expected sometime this week.

The veterinarians are also evaluating the ability of the deer to survive in the wild. In all cases, the preferred solution is to return the deer to their native habitat.

Oregon law recognizes that wildlife should remain wild by prohibiting private possession of wild animals. This protects the public, other wildlife and the animals themselves.

The buck in this case has reached sexual maturity, is aggressive and poses a potential threat to the family and the public. Wild animals that are raised around people lose their natural fear of humans. The majority of the wildlife attacks on humans are by deer and other animals that no longer fear humans.

Private possession of wildlife also puts Oregon’s other wildlife at risk. Chronic Wasting Disease and other diseases can be traced to situations where animals are kept in captivity. Fortunately, Oregon has not had any cases of this disease which is fatal to deer and elk.

Deer hair loss is another devastating disease that has had significant impacts on Black-tail deer populations. We are taking every possible precaution to prevent the introduction of diseases which could potentially devastate our wild deer and elk populations. Prohibiting private possession of wildlife is one way to prevent this from happening.

The law does allow for the licensing of facilities that are equipped to properly provide long-term care for captive wild animals. These facilities have ample room for the animals to roam and to graze on natural vegetation. They provide adequate and proper feed. Their staff is properly trained and equipped to respond to any situation that may arise. This ensures that deer, elk and other animals held at these facilities receive humane treatment.

In closing, we are exploring all of the options available under Oregon law. We are committed to finding a solution that provides proper care for these two deer, protects public health and all of Oregon’s wildlife.

Source: The Oregonian

Photo: Oregon Live

(Thanks Vicki and mallard1975)

51 Responses to “Pet Deer Seized From Oregon Family”

  1. Nancy G. says:

    This is so typical of ‘wildlife managers’- it’s all about hunting. If this family wanted to shoot and mount the heads of these deer over their fireplace, why then the state would be fine with it. These deer are healthy, well cared for, they are no ‘disease threat’. And if they had one more ‘license’ available, they might be able to keep and care for them? Wildlife managers in every state care nothing for the wildlife they are managing, they are little more to them than commodities. And hunters are the only citizens who seem to have any ‘rights’ as far as wildlife is concerned.

  2. nora says:

    This is an incredible outrage. These deer were safe and loved with the family and the authorities (who should be resolving REAL PROBLEMS) have done something that is downright animal cruelty and harrasment of these animals loving caretakers . The “anonymous tipster” deserves a
    punch in the nose. Whomever made the decsion to harass these people and take these deer are idiots and should be removed from their position. They are obviously not qualified to deal with such delicate and personal issues. As far as “these deer belong to everyone in the state,” what an idiotic statement. HOW? To shoot and kill and torture? This family has incurred financial expense at their choice for the love of the deer and they are pets and a part of a loving, caring family. I can only imagine how much stress the delicate and sensitive deer have now suffered at the hands of the authorities, the stupid jerks. The deer should be returned IMMEDIATELY to their REAL owners, their human family!

  3. catmom5 says:

    I hope and pray that these deer will be returned to their family. With all of the animals who are truly being mistreated, tortured and killed, why on earth go after these animals who are obviously loved and well cared for. I am so sick of hearing about humans who clearly don’t care much about the animals they work/live with.

  4. Denise says:

    it just goes to show the convoluted mentality in our society when the only way to get authorities to respond to egregious cruelty and abuse is through a youtube video yet let one anonymous tipster( probably a hunter) whine about someone helping deer and the calvary descends to harrass and possibly euthanize well-cared, well-loved animals from good hearted, decent people in this world….sickening.

    if everyone is so concerned about diseases why aren’t they banging down doors where dogs are being kept in unsanitary conditions with no food/water/vaccinations and the potential to contract rabies is more of a health risk.

  5. Gary says:

    More and more, I see signs of the return of the Gestapo mentality where only they are right. They cite Oregon laws but how many of their greedy, corrupt and bought off kind are breaking laws daily and are overlooked on purpose?

  6. Anonymous says:

    This family has spent much time and money to ensure that Snowball would have as much of a quality life as was possible. Who within the wildlife organization would have taken Snowball to a veterinarian and had special casts made to help straighten out her legs?

    This is a case of extreme human compassion for another living creature and it is being rewarded HOW?? By having two content and well cared for creatures removed from their safe enviroment. The end result of this will unfortunately most likely mean the end of Snowball’s life.Granting a care license would enable these two gentle creatures to continue their lives as they know it. Instead it is better to kill a happy, well-cared for animal, with a disability than let her continue on. This organization cannot called itself animal welfare people..they are murderers.

  7. SueG says:

    This is insane. The injured fawn would not have survived in the wild, so the adult she became with the help of this kind family was never a “wildlife” animal. And her son Bucky, born in their home, can hardly be called “wildlife” either. These deer do not “belong to everybody in Oregon” because without this family there’d be no Snowball and Bucky. Disease concerns are a load of rot since there were no complaints for 6 years. And since when does one anonymous complaint carry such weight?

    The “authorities”–who are they?–are acting on some kind of vendetta. Snowball won’t survive in a zoo or sanctuary without her family. And they don’t know anything about “wildlife” if they think Bucky is “suitable for relocation in the wild.” Bucky has no fear of humans… he’ll be dead from a hunter’s bullet on the first day of killing season.

    The solution is so simple: Recognize that extraordinary circumstances warrant issuing 1 more license. Bureaucratic crap cannot be allowed to comdemn these deer to death. And 16 licenses for the whole state is pathetic.

    I hope the deer are returned to their home immediately. Who can we contact to speak out for them?

  8. Claudia says:

    There was a case here (Manitoba) not too long ago where a gentleman found a fawn on his driveway, dehydrated, starving and abandoned. He took it in, fed it, and even brought it to work so he could look after it round the clock. Someone tipped off Manitoba Conservation who seized the fawn and euthanized it. Didn’t even bother to look for alternate accommodations. This wound up on the front pages of the newspapers and people were bloody outraged. Strangely, groups who you’d think were advocates including the local wildlife rehab organization sided with Manitoba Conservation. I would think that a fawn that young would be able to revert to a wild state after being released back into the forest. Just sick.

  9. Velvet's Dad says:

    “Authorities do not think that Snowball could survive on her own in the wild, so they are looking for a zoo or wildlife refuge for her to go to. If they cannot find a place for her, she would most likely be euthanized. It seems that Bucky is suitable for relocation in the wild.”

    Absolutely incredible. Here, Snowball was surviving just fine with a loving family, now she may be killed if they can’t find a “suitable” place for her. Nothing but numbskulls running things here in Oregon. I know, I live here.

  10. janet says:

    I agree with all of you, you said it all. They glorify hunting and now are getting children involved in it. Here in Minnesota hunting is on the front page of the paper and bow hunting they all love. So sick

  11. kaefamily says:

    Release Bucky to the wild? He’ll be shot to death! He might as well be euthanized. Leave it to the government run agency and it’s hell from there! I am wondering the US Wild Life agencies must be following the policies of the US Child Social Services.

  12. Lorri says:

    Oh how typical. It’s okay for deer to be moved down by cars because we’ve built mcmansions on “their” homes, but someone steps up and does something humane…and it’s illegal.
    But hey, I’m sure it would be just fine if instead of saving that deer, he simply hacked off her head and put it on his wall to hang his coat on.

  13. Elaine says:

    I have rescued and raised numerous wild birds, and have known people who raised a baby porcupine, skunks, raccoons, and deer. All of these “wild” animals and birds are then not wild, and it is a CRUELTY to return them to the wild!

    In fact, IMO, the famous killer whale, Keiko, was cruelly allowed to perish alone and without her people because of the stupid, mistaken policy that every animal born in the wild must be returned to the wild!

    For those who don’t know this story, Keiko was in captivity in Mexico, (?) and was taken to Oregon Coast Aquarium where conditions were better and she thrived on the attention of her fans.

    Then the decision was made to return her to the wild, and they took her to Iceland or Greenland, with her handlers, to teach her to forage for herself in the wild, and be re-united with her pod.

    If I remember right, her “family pod” beat her up a few times, and they gradually removed contact with her handlers. So Keiko started showing up in the fjords in the Scandinavian countries to interact with PEOPLE, and then the orders were that PEOPLE were to stay away and leave her alone!

    Keiko died a few months later, I am sure of a broken heart, but of course the story was it was something else! Keiko thought she was a “people”.

  14. highnote says:

    I have raised some wild animals before and never thought about running out for a license. Snowball needed help and they helped her.
    Snowball had special needs and this family out of it’s kindness paid for those needs.
    They said she acted like a dog and maybe she thought she was.
    I feel that snowball should be returned to this family since she probably acts more like a cow then a deer.
    I would have some concern for her baby though.
    Male deer can become very agressive when it is rutting season and they are looking for a mate. Even though this male was raised with people he would still act like a male deer in the wild at a certain point and could possibly turn on the family.
    But snowball is a female and acts like a dog and would never cause any harm to anyone. She should be returned to them. It is the only life she has known and it is wrong to distroy her just because she is a deer.
    Who ever turned them in is a animal hater and probably a deer hunter.
    I pray snowball can be returned to them. I have never seen a deer have her markings either. I have only seen white tail deer in my area and never have seen one with so much white on it. She sure is a pretty girl. It would break my heart to have to give her up and it would just distroy me if they were going to euthanize her. This is just so terribly wrong!!

  15. Elderta says:

    Great, euthanize the deer instead of letting it live with its family. I swear, I think my head is just going to explode one day.

  16. Gina T says:

    This makes me sick to my stomach. Take a beautiful, docile animal away from the only family she’s ever known and because she won’t be good to go back in the wild they may have no choice but to KILL her? This doesn’t make sense at all. Do these so called wildlife people have their heads up their behinds? What a sad, sad story. And a sad, sad day for both Snowball and Bucky. My hearts go out to both of the deer and their family. Their family must be devestated. I know I am.

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  18. Nancy G. says:

    It’s a little known fact that almost none of the animals raised in captivity- even if they are not made into pets- successfully return to the wild. All those Orangutans and lions and such, it almost always fails. See what happened when China released one of their captive bred Pandas to the wild- it got into fights with wild Pandas, and eventually was killed when it fell from a tree. Releasing this deer to the wild would be a death sentence. The number of hunters nationwide is declining- maybe we need a movement to make the various ‘game departments’ recognize that other citizens, too, have rights when it comes to wildlife.

  19. Cathy says:

    That’s the government for you, better to euthanize than let the family keep them. Nothing but assholes running the government.

  20. Velvet's Dad says:

    Here is a link to the OR Dept of Fish & Wildlife. There are several ways to contact them and voice your concerns.

    http://www.dfw.state.or.us/age...../index.asp

  21. CINDY WALSH says:

    ALL HUNTERS WANT TO DO IS SHOOT DEER WITH A HIGH POWERED RIFLE, WHICH DOESN’T GIVE THEM A CHANCE, AND THESE POOR PEOPLE LOVED THESE TWO DEER AND TOOK GOOD CARE OF THEM. THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE! THE WORLD IS IN A SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS!

  22. Lynn says:

    I saw the flim clip on tv last night and I have been aching since for the family and for the deer. It is like the gestapo coming and yanking people out of the home for slaughter. No different.

    How thoroughly disgusting that our society has come to this, all because of “insufficient licenses.”

    I’d damn well like to know WHO the stupid, insensitive, uncompassionate oxymoron was who complained. This is a matter of public record, I would assume, so let’s have the name.

    I’m not saying that it’s right to just make a domestic pet out of a wild creature, but this case is very unique, given Snowball’s injuries/deformities.

    Like Velvet’s Dad says, go to this link and find the email reference and go ballistic on them. I just did. Please add fuel to the fire.
    http://www.dfw.state.or.us/age…../index.asp

  23. three kitties says:

    If enough people protest the action, perhaps a change can be made. It worked in Ontario in the case of Bam-Bam, another pet deer seized by the authorities last winter. A petition was setup and the deer was eventually returned to the family that raised her.

    http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story.....-home.html

    Public reaction CAN make a difference.

  24. momkat says:

    Just because of some red tape…they could actually KILL this poor deer!???
    I think the people in Oregon who took this animal from its home really need something else to do…they obviously have too much free time if they’re plucking pets away from people and killing them over a lousy permit!
    Shame on them!

  25. pat says:

    idiots idiots idiots idiots idiots.

    we are surrounded by idiots.

    it’s the same in virtually every state, you know. the wildife management people are not about preserving life, wild or otherwise. they are about management for “maximum hunter satisfaction”. seriously. i’ve seen it in their own documents.

    where i come from, they can’t be bothered to enforce hunting regulations at all, but if you’re feeding a deer, the petty tyrants will be calling on you. and every couple of years an article runs in the local paper where some wildlife official is congratulating himself on how well they “manage the herd”. around here, poachers manage the herd.

    oregon wildlife managers, let Snowball and Bucky go home! try and devote a little time to enforcing hunting regulations, if you have the courage to face somebody who’s armed. it’s much easier to torment the kind people who save animals than to do your real job, isn’t it?

  26. mallard1975 says:

    Black-tailed deer will not be euthanized; return to family one option under consideration

    SALEM, Ore.- Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife Director Roy Elicker reiterated at a news conference this morning that the black-tailed deer removed from a family home in Molalla will not be euthanized.

    “We are exploring all of the options,” said Elicker during the news conference at ODFW Headquarters in Salem. “One of those options is returning the doe to the family. Euthanasia is not one of the options being considered.”

    The animals are currently in the care of state wildlife veterinarians. The veterinarians are assessing the animals’ health. Tests have been taken to determine whether they have diseases that may be harmful to them or other wildlife. Results are expected sometime next week.

    The deer’s abilities to survive in the wild are also being evaluated by wildlife experts. If the deer can survive in the wild, the state may release them. If not, officials will look at other options to care for the animals, including care in a licensed facility or return to the family. The decision will be made after a full assessment of the deer’s health and of legal options available.

    “The law is clear. It is illegal to hold captive wild animals. The law was put in place to protect the health and safety of wildlife and the public,” said Elicker. “Within the limits of the law, we are looking at all options that have the best interest of these two deer and wildlife.

    “We do understand the feelings of the family and the public. Caring for wildlife is at the heart of everything we do,” added ODFW Director Roy Elicker. “However, we have a larger responsibility and have to ensure that our decision is in the best interest of wildlife.”

    Oregon State Police, working with Oregon Department of Fish and Wildlife, took the deer from a private residence on September 12, because one was illegally taken from the wild and both were being held captive illegally.

    STATEMENT BY ODFW DIRECTOR ROY ELICKER

    I want to reiterate that these deer will not be euthanized. The deer are in good condition, under the care of our wildlife vet. Tests have been done on the deer to determine if there are any diseases or other health issues. Those results will be available sometime next week. In the meantime, the deer are being well taken care of and we looking at all options. Euthanasia is not one of those options.

    We do understand the feelings of the family and the public. Caring for wildlife is at the heart of everything we do. However, we have larger responsibility and have to ensure that our decision is in the best interest of all wildlife.

    Part of that responsibility involves public safety. The buck in this case has reached sexual maturity and is aggressive and poses a potential danger to the family and the public. We talked to the family about this and thought we had worked out a compromise. Unfortunately, the agreement didn’t happen and OSP enforced the law and the animals were placed in our care.

    The law is clear. It is illegal to hold captive wild animals. The law was put in place to protect the health and safety of wildlife and the public. We are following the law.

    Within the limits of the law, we are looking at options that have the best interest of these two deer and all wildlife.

  27. Stefani says:

    I am glad they have clarified that they will not euthanize the deer. If they euthanize that deer, it would be a horrible thing.

    Perhaps the family could work with the state to get a special designation themselves — how many animals do you have to have and what kind of credentials and facilities do you have to have to qualify as a ‘refuge’? They should look into this.

    I think that for the doe, at least, a return to the family would be the best thing for her. They clearly love her and have cared for her well for a long time. I hope some permit can be arranged.

    Stefani

  28. Lynn says:

    “The law was put in place to protect the health and safety of wildlife and the public.”

    Well, gee, am I stupid or what? I thought I just read that the law is supposed to protect the deer. How is tossing a domesticated deer into the wildlife for hunters to shoot at considered “protection”?

    Snowball belongs in one place only: the home she was taken from. Not a zoo, not the wildlife, not a traveling circus.

    Here’s the link to the email:

    http://www.dfw.state.or.us/age…../index.asp

    SEND AN EMAIL IN PROTEST NOW! [And keep repeating this email link in your post so others see it.]

  29. Moony says:

    Actually, Elaine, Keiko was a bull orca, not a female. He had many strikes against him from the beginning, such as being two when he was removed from the wild and only speaking dolphin, not orca, but the Keiko Foundation was bent on having him returned to the wild. He even told animal communicators he didn’t want to be set free. He should have stayed at the Oregon Aquarium, or been released locally so they could have brought him back if there was trouble. But nooo…

    And unfortunately those like Lolita, who was 6 when she was captured in Puget Sound and who remembers her language and they know what family group she came from, and who would have had a greater chance of being successfully released…have even less chance of release now.

    On the actual subject: wow, Snowball is GORGEOUS. And I don’t think anyone in their right mind would think she’d EVER have a chance in the wild, even if she wasn’t ever crippled or helped by humans. There’s a reason that primarily white deer are so rare. Unfortunately the same argument cannot be made for her son - who’s young enough he could be conditioned to avoid humans and dogs ahead of release.

  30. Sylvia says:

    There is something wrong with a system that would allow something like this to happen - and just what kind of person would complain about these people in the first place. Seems minding your own business is a lost art…… I hope these people get their deer back -

  31. Bessie and Bully (cats) says:

    Once again the humans can’t leave well enough alone. It is perfectly legal to go into the woods and shoot holes into these defenseless creatures, but when a human does the opposite and cares for them it is illegal. Could you define evil any better than that. Acts of kindness to the little species are against the law.

    And what is with the 16 limit? Where do the politicians come up with these rules. Again, go in the woods and murder the little creaters with almost no limitation. Meanwhile, we are limiting acts of kindness to 16.

  32. shirley says:

    Ijust returned home after spending two months in Oregon. I have been following The Snowball story. Snowball’s family has taken care of her for six years, spent their money on her and loved her and Buckie. Now you are going to put her with elk with another family. I think it is terribe. My cousin left a lot of money to the wildlife of Oregon and she put money n the viewing area at the Bonneville Dam so people could see Herman.If she were alive today I know she would not be happy with Oregon wildlife. I hope you know what you are doing. Shirley Ludwig

  33. Jess says:

    That’s just terrible. I don’t see how people can be so cruel to take a dearly loved petaway from it’s home and family. I mean, those people clearly cared about her, I mean who else would pick up a little fawn and take it to a vetinary hospital to make sure that fawn would get a good chance in life? Not many people would do that.

  34. becca says:

    i believe the family should be allowed to keep the deer because they cared and provided food and shelter and a mate for the doe and got another one.. i dont see what the big deal about it is.. my aunt has cared for 2 and was given permission by the wildlife conservation here in mississippi to keep them both.. one is a buck about 1 year old and a doe about 6 weeks old now..

  35. Thomas Briggs says:

    To ODFW DIRECTOR ROY ELICKER
    Two words: F*** YOU

  36. Thom Dickey says:

    We can’t keep killing all our resources. When someone wants to properly take care of an animal then more power to them. Stop interferring with what we were all put here to do…be caretakers of the world.

  37. Beth says:

    I think the anonymous tipster was jealous. The dear should stay with the family.

  38. Arkrube says:

    It is not “their” deer to choose if it stays with them or not, but the property of the State of Oregon. These folks are not wildlife managers, but actually one step short of being in the same category as a poacher…they have possession of wildlife, but just didn’t kill it.
    The State of Oregon and it’s wildlife department have lost sight of their true objective of wildlife management when they let the I-5 corridor and the bleeding heart liberals of Eugene, Portland, and Salem “hi-jack” their mission by outlawing the use of dogs in the pursuit of cougars and bears.
    Now, the monies received from the general populace and license revenues goes to pay out-of-state hunters with dogs to kill/thin the population of bear and cougars in Oregon.
    So, with this deer fiasco and their lack of prosecution of the offenders (I think I’ll poach a deer and then, whine to the media to avoid a ticket/prosecution) and the Department of Fish and Wildlife’s impotence in repealing or overturning the ballot measure outlawing the use of dogs spells trouble in the near and distant future for management in the near and present future.
    Wildlife should be managed by the wildlife managers, not some emotional bleeding heart liberals from the Pearl District or Eugene.

  39. Mechelle says:

    Arkrube sounds like quite the bigot. “Bleeding heart liberals from the Pearl District or Eugene? ” !!! Where died that come from? Is there something about these two locations that Arkrube has an issue with? And on ALL the above Blog entries, NONE stated they were from EITHER of these locations.
    Arkrube should get the facts straight before spouting his hate. This family did NOT poach a deer. They found an abondoned crippled deer, contacted the proper authorities who DID NOT WANT THE DEER. The State Dept Of F&W wouldn’t have cared for this deer, but euthenized it.
    Think of all the tax payer money that has been spent by these state officials all because of a ‘control issue’ they have and not wanting to admit they were wrong in the first place. They could have just as easily ASSISTED this family in meeting their requirements to keep the deer. They could have made this a win-win situation. No taxpayer money needed to be spent on this.
    What would Arkrube suggest this family have done? They could have left the abandoned baby deer and let die a slow death. Is that what you want?
    Or had the vet kill the deer? Is that better for you? No one wanted the deer. They went above and beyond to care for this animal who was permanantly disabled and unable to ever be returned to the wild.
    Arkrube sounds like he’s got some ‘anger issues’ that are not related to this issue.

  40. Jake says:

    Akrube just because it belongs to the state doesn’t make it right to take something that is loved and charished from someone, that is wrong! I’m sure these people pay their state taxes so they HAVE a right to their state animals just as much as hunters.

    This government is so fucked up. Our government trys to act like it’s so righteous and just it sickens me. Is this the just and right thing to do, to take a loved animal away from somone? This animal was obviously well cared for and probably already been to the vet. It didn’t have disease that is just a excuse for an unjust practice done to these people.

    I’m willing to stand up and fight this and I think everyone else should too! It WORONG and UNJUST, period! Laws are meant to provide justice based on what’s right and wrong, they are doing the opposite.

  41. Lisa says:

    This is the most out rages state law I have ever heard!!!!!!!GIVE THESE BEAUTIFUL ANIMALS BACK TOO ITS LOVING HOME. WHY IS THIS EVEN BEING DISCUSSED?? GO OUT AND WORK SOMETHING ELSE BUT LEAVE THESE ANIMALS ALONG!!! WHY DISTURB THEIR HAPPINESS??? SOOO MUCH ANIMAL CRUELTY WHY NOT GIVE PRAISE TO SOME GREAT FOLKS!!!!!! FOR DOING SOMETHING GOOD FOR OUR LITTLE FURRY FRIENDS!!!!!!

  42. Rebecca says:

    This article is from 2007. I searched for updates and it turns out Bucky was released into the wild and Snowball went to live on a ranch where the owners raise elks for slaughter… I wonder if either are still alive. What a tragedy that authorities stick their noses in when they are NOT needed and completely fail to intervene in cases where they may be needed.
    I agree with what people here have said, it’s all about the rights of hunters. Even though Bucky was dumped in a no-hunt area, I doubt they’d care if he wandered into the hunting areas.

  43. C Heffner says:

    Hi I am apalled and disgusted with the authorites in this matter.the deer was well taken care of and was NOT a problem.Why they stick their nose in is beyond me, unless they are just plain jealous that they don’t have one.the deer should be returned to people that raised her, and NEVER should have been taken.

  44. misty says:

    These deer should have been left with the people who raised them. The DEC should have given them time to get a licence. Under the rehab laws. The sad part of all this is the deer will never make it in the wild? what did they do with theses two deer is my question?

  45. Hannah says:

    It’s horrible that they took the deer away, they were obviously well cared for and loved by the family. I hope they have been returned.

  46. Nik says:

    Let the family keep the deer. Fine the bloody hell of them at the same time. State will still get it’s money and enforcement will be done.

    In this case it appears to be no disease issue. Captive deer posing a health problem? Not unless you count things like wasting disease or hair loss syndrome. Which only kill huge numbers of animals causing them to suffer.

  47. Lisa says:

    How has this turned out since this is 2009 now, I sure hope you got the sweet deer back!!

  48. Lisa says:

    I sure hope you got your deer back! Please let me know? lisaheathcoat@yahoo.com. This is So Rediculous That as happy as they seem to be!!! I have never seen a deer this color beautiful!!

  49. Darcy says:

    These outdated laws need to be updated..this is outrageous to separate these pets from their family simply because they don’t have enough permits.GIVE THESE PETS BACK TO THE FAMILY THAT LOVES THEM AND HAS CARED VERY WELL FOR THEM!!!

  50. Darcy s says:

    These outdated laws need to be updated..this is outrageous to separate these pets from their family simply because they don’t have enough permits.GIVE THESE PETS BACK TO THE FAMILY THAT LOVES THEM AND HAS CARED VERY WELLFOR THEM!!!

  51. Gail says:

    I hope your beautiful deer were returned back to you. I live in Ohio and have 2 pet deer (does) that I have licenses for. I LOVE my deer and they too act like dogs. My oldest is 3 1/2 and my youngest is 1 1/2. My girls are sooooo loving and tame with me - they make my heart melt. I agree with all comments above except for the idiots that don’t think the deer should be returned to you. This country is INSANE!!!! All these A$$holes that go out every year to shoot/kill/torture these precious animals make me sick!!! I HATE hunting season - my heart aches every year. I feed the wild deer that come on my property - I love watching them - especially the fawns! Just this year Ohio passed a new law that forbids wildlife rehabilitators from caring for orphaned/injured fawns!!! I was and still am outraged over that!!! Why can’t we help our precious wildlife when they are in need? So what, we are just suppose to let a small helpless fawn that is still on it’s mother’s milk - try and survive on it’s own? Please - that’s HEARTLESS AND INHUMANE!! BUT, it’s ok for people to kill them instead. Freakin idiots……….this world is screwed up. I really hope this situation turned out the way it should have been - return the deer to the caring, loving owners. Maybe if more of us spoke up we could do something about the yearly senseless slaughter of innocent deer. There was a comment some “hunting webpage” where hunters were discussing whether to shoot a doe that had fawns with her. A couple of freakin sick bastards said to shoot the doe and her fawns. It’s hard not to have hate in your heart when you have people like that on this earth - AND they are allowed to carry a gun………Crazy


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