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		<title>By: Love your dog and feed them inexpensive homemade food!</title>
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		<author>Love your dog and feed them inexpensive homemade food!</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Love your dog and feed them inexpensive homemade food!&lt;/strong&gt;

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		<title>By: . o O ( Expert Cat &#38; Kitten Training Stops Bad Cat Behavior Problems Review: Scam or Serious? )</title>
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		<author>. o O ( Expert Cat &#38; Kitten Training Stops Bad Cat Behavior Problems Review: Scam or Serious? )</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tammy</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-240335</link>
		<author>Tammy</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 03:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People stop picking big name manufacturers. Most of them own food manufacturing plants and use their left over sludge for their dog food plants. Did you all know Delmonte has a dog food plant? Procter and Gamble own Iams now. It's a place to dump their left over garbage in. My dog developed diabetes off of Kibbles and bits, also beneful. I have been feeding my dogs chicken, beef and vegetables for 2 years. I also developed treats coming on the market that will be safe for all dogs. They are all natural. I decided something safe had to be on the market. My company name is Canine Cusine Good Dog Treats</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People stop picking big name manufacturers. Most of them own food manufacturing plants and use their left over sludge for their dog food plants. Did you all know Delmonte has a dog food plant? Procter and Gamble own Iams now. It&#8217;s a place to dump their left over garbage in. My dog developed diabetes off of Kibbles and bits, also beneful. I have been feeding my dogs chicken, beef and vegetables for 2 years. I also developed treats coming on the market that will be safe for all dogs. They are all natural. I decided something safe had to be on the market. My company name is Canine Cusine Good Dog Treats</p>
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		<title>By: Babys First Foods - The Definitive Guide To A, Natural, Healthy Diet. &#124; 7Wins.eu</title>
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		<author>Babys First Foods - The Definitive Guide To A, Natural, Healthy Diet. &#124; 7Wins.eu</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bella,Poisoneed Yorkie/Smokehouse</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-137804</link>
		<author>Bella,Poisoneed Yorkie/Smokehouse</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-137804</guid>
		<description>Bella is my dog and the dog responsible for the SmokeHouse attention which began Sept 07 with our vet, Dr. Richard Goldstein.  It is only because SmokeHouse chicken tenders were the ONLY change in Bella's diet since she was a year old. She is now three and a half years old and four pounds. 
Because I had not ever contributed to or read blogs I was unaware of how well known Bella's story is until pet owners begain contacting me from around the country. Some thanking us for bringing attention and saving their dogs, others sadly had lost their dogs or are nursing severely ill small dogs.  The smaller the dog, the faster they become ill and die.  All symptoms are consistent across the board right down to the need for force feeding after the pets become dehydrated, beyond lethargic, etc.  The most frightening thread is behavior indicating addiction to the Smokehouse garbage.  A dog won't eat anything for days or weeks, but show them a SmokeHouse treat and they're struggle to get to it.  Earlier tests showed some of these treats contain a substance used for pain control in human beings.  HELLO! WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT PAIN KILLER WARNINGS? THEY ARE HABIT FORMING, AND CAN LEAD TO ADDICTION.  SO HOW DO YOU THINK ANY BIT OF THAT SUBSTANCE AFFECTS A SMALL DOG???????
YES, ADDICTION.  If a dog becomes addicted, and they do, that in turn drives sales up.  Wicked, wicked people at SmokeHouse.  They also lied to more than one inquirer telling them they never heard from anyone complaining about a Yorkie named Bella, never heard our name.  LIES! I have written communications from Lisa Kahn which prove otherwise. The same Lisa Kahn that claims she never heard from us.  I have numerous communications from Pet owners who were rudely dismissed by Kahn telling them things such as "enough dogs hadn't died for this to matter". She also claimed she tested this toxic junk on fifteen dogs.  Oh sure she did, small dogs, large dogs, how much did she feed them?  Doesn't matter there is little to no credibility with those people.  Think SmokeHouse and Pet Smart who pushes the SmokeHouse product, is in the business of keeping pets healthy?  Think again.
S. Fishel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bella is my dog and the dog responsible for the SmokeHouse attention which began Sept 07 with our vet, Dr. Richard Goldstein.  It is only because SmokeHouse chicken tenders were the ONLY change in Bella&#8217;s diet since she was a year old. She is now three and a half years old and four pounds.<br />
Because I had not ever contributed to or read blogs I was unaware of how well known Bella&#8217;s story is until pet owners begain contacting me from around the country. Some thanking us for bringing attention and saving their dogs, others sadly had lost their dogs or are nursing severely ill small dogs.  The smaller the dog, the faster they become ill and die.  All symptoms are consistent across the board right down to the need for force feeding after the pets become dehydrated, beyond lethargic, etc.  The most frightening thread is behavior indicating addiction to the Smokehouse garbage.  A dog won&#8217;t eat anything for days or weeks, but show them a SmokeHouse treat and they&#8217;re struggle to get to it.  Earlier tests showed some of these treats contain a substance used for pain control in human beings.  HELLO! WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT PAIN KILLER WARNINGS? THEY ARE HABIT FORMING, AND CAN LEAD TO ADDICTION.  SO HOW DO YOU THINK ANY BIT OF THAT SUBSTANCE AFFECTS A SMALL DOG???????<br />
YES, ADDICTION.  If a dog becomes addicted, and they do, that in turn drives sales up.  Wicked, wicked people at SmokeHouse.  They also lied to more than one inquirer telling them they never heard from anyone complaining about a Yorkie named Bella, never heard our name.  LIES! I have written communications from Lisa Kahn which prove otherwise. The same Lisa Kahn that claims she never heard from us.  I have numerous communications from Pet owners who were rudely dismissed by Kahn telling them things such as &#8220;enough dogs hadn&#8217;t died for this to matter&#8221;. She also claimed she tested this toxic junk on fifteen dogs.  Oh sure she did, small dogs, large dogs, how much did she feed them?  Doesn&#8217;t matter there is little to no credibility with those people.  Think SmokeHouse and Pet Smart who pushes the SmokeHouse product, is in the business of keeping pets healthy?  Think again.<br />
S. Fishel</p>
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		<title>By: Amazing Cooking Guide</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-92408</link>
		<author>Amazing Cooking Guide</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 21:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Amazing Cooking Guide&lt;/strong&gt;

I couldn't understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting</description>
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<p>I couldn&#8217;t understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting</p>
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		<title>By: Dog Care Tips</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-78768</link>
		<author>Dog Care Tips</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 13:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Dog Care Tips&lt;/strong&gt;

I couldn't understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting</description>
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<p>I couldn&#8217;t understand some parts of this article, but it sounds interesting</p>
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		<title>By: Dorene</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-74453</link>
		<author>Dorene</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 02:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-74453</guid>
		<description>I make my own liver cookies as training/reward treats -- just puree liver in the food processer with an egg and pumpkin, then add enough oat flour to make a thick paste, pour onto a cookie sheet and bake -- you've got a balanced treat for a dog that tastes good enough to be a training treat.

After the pet food recall, I've started giving my dog more "scraps" -- if it's a whole food (whole wheat bread, cheese, etc that fell on the floor) that she likes, I give it to her to eat and then just cut back on the kibble that day.  Seems to work -- she's not gaining weight and the recall training is going very well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I make my own liver cookies as training/reward treats &#8212; just puree liver in the food processer with an egg and pumpkin, then add enough oat flour to make a thick paste, pour onto a cookie sheet and bake &#8212; you&#8217;ve got a balanced treat for a dog that tastes good enough to be a training treat.</p>
<p>After the pet food recall, I&#8217;ve started giving my dog more &#8220;scraps&#8221; &#8212; if it&#8217;s a whole food (whole wheat bread, cheese, etc that fell on the floor) that she likes, I give it to her to eat and then just cut back on the kibble that day.  Seems to work &#8212; she&#8217;s not gaining weight and the recall training is going very well!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-73299</link>
		<author>Anonymous</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:50:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-73299</guid>
		<description>DITTO:  Sounds to me like the PFI and FDA have determined how much toxin and what kindof toxin is in the treats. Then they found a scientist that told them what amount the â€œdilution factorâ€ would be and went running to the CEO and told them how to still sell the product. 

DON E:  What theyâ€™re doing is setting things up to make cross claims of what is called â€œcontributory negligenceâ€ when theyâ€™re sued. As in, â€œSorry pal, your 12 pound dog died because you didnâ€™t cut the jerky in half as instructed. Itâ€™s all your fault.â€.

The pfpsa.org project has some of these treats at ExperTox now and hopefully will have some results back this week. 

THANK YOU DON KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DITTO:  Sounds to me like the PFI and FDA have determined how much toxin and what kindof toxin is in the treats. Then they found a scientist that told them what amount the â€œdilution factorâ€ would be and went running to the CEO and told them how to still sell the product. </p>
<p>DON E:  What theyâ€™re doing is setting things up to make cross claims of what is called â€œcontributory negligenceâ€ when theyâ€™re sued. As in, â€œSorry pal, your 12 pound dog died because you didnâ€™t cut the jerky in half as instructed. Itâ€™s all your fault.â€.</p>
<p>The pfpsa.org project has some of these treats at ExperTox now and hopefully will have some results back this week. </p>
<p>THANK YOU DON KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-72972</link>
		<author>Anonymous</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 22:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-72972</guid>
		<description>Would, by chance, that apple cider vinegar contain apple seeds?

Is the sugar cane, beet or from some other source?

Do a search on the words  marine life microplastics pollution

Melamine might not be as innocuous as it seems. 

Are the treats irradiated in the package?  If so, is the packaging affected?
There are experts in the field that could probably tell you if they knew the composition of the package.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would, by chance, that apple cider vinegar contain apple seeds?</p>
<p>Is the sugar cane, beet or from some other source?</p>
<p>Do a search on the words  marine life microplastics pollution</p>
<p>Melamine might not be as innocuous as it seems. </p>
<p>Are the treats irradiated in the package?  If so, is the packaging affected?<br />
There are experts in the field that could probably tell you if they knew the composition of the package.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-72926</link>
		<author>Anonymous</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know it's funny.  I have 4 dogs under 12 pounds.  I cut the jerky in half (the one time I did buy them) for them (without any one telling met that either BTW),  However, even on that amount, I was starting to have problems with dogs that were pooping in the wrong place (couldn't seem to get outside in time) and some diarrhea but with the number of dogs I have I wasn't really sure who was having problems (of if more than one were, which I suspected).  I stopped given even 1/2 a jerky and it cleared right up.  This was right before the recall.  Personally I don't think even 1/2 a jerky is safe for a dog under 12 pounds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know it&#8217;s funny.  I have 4 dogs under 12 pounds.  I cut the jerky in half (the one time I did buy them) for them (without any one telling met that either BTW),  However, even on that amount, I was starting to have problems with dogs that were pooping in the wrong place (couldn&#8217;t seem to get outside in time) and some diarrhea but with the number of dogs I have I wasn&#8217;t really sure who was having problems (of if more than one were, which I suspected).  I stopped given even 1/2 a jerky and it cleared right up.  This was right before the recall.  Personally I don&#8217;t think even 1/2 a jerky is safe for a dog under 12 pounds.</p>
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		<title>By: Purringfur</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-72919</link>
		<author>Purringfur</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-72919</guid>
		<description>Here's the part where it says treated with Gamma Ray... On itchmo, "CnnDuke" cites this letter from Bestros Chicken Jerky, which outlines the process it uses to make its chicken jerky treats:

Dear Customer:

There is lots of production recall, but not our production, you could visit web at: http://www.menufoods.com/recall/product_dog.html . to find the list of recall production names. If you still have any question, pls feel free to contact us at : info@bestros.com

To our valuable customers who purchased BestroÂ¡Â¯s Roasted Chicken Jerky Treats :
According to WHO (World Health Organization),The H5N1 virus is sensitive to heat. Normal temperatures used for cooking (70Â¡Ã¦ or 158Â¨H in all parts of the food) will kill the virus. For more details about Avian influenza (Â¡Â°bird fluÂ¡Â±), please visit the web page below:

How were the BestroÂ¡Â¯s Roasted Chicken Jerky Treats made?

1) Materials only derived from the vet. office &#38; department of agriculture approved farms &#38; slaughterhouse.
2) Roasted under 75Â¡Ã¦-85Â¡Ã¦ (167Â¨H-185Â¨H) for more than 10 hours.
3) Go through our unique microwave system under 120Â¡Ã¦ (248Â¨H) to ensure the CORE temperature meets the minimum standard of 70Â¡Ã¦ (158Â¨H) to kill the virus in ALL PARTS.
4) Treated by irradiation (Gamma Ray) to eliminate the harmful bacteria.

http://www.itchmo.com/fda-continues-to-investigate-chicken-jerky-pet-treats-2967</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the part where it says treated with Gamma Ray&#8230; On itchmo, &#8220;CnnDuke&#8221; cites this letter from Bestros Chicken Jerky, which outlines the process it uses to make its chicken jerky treats:</p>
<p>Dear Customer:</p>
<p>There is lots of production recall, but not our production, you could visit web at: <a href="http://www.menufoods.com/recall/product_dog.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.menufoods.com/recall/product_dog.html</a> . to find the list of recall production names. If you still have any question, pls feel free to contact us at : <a href="mailto:info@bestros.com">info@bestros.com</a></p>
<p>To our valuable customers who purchased BestroÂ¡Â¯s Roasted Chicken Jerky Treats :<br />
According to WHO (World Health Organization),The H5N1 virus is sensitive to heat. Normal temperatures used for cooking (70Â¡Ã¦ or 158Â¨H in all parts of the food) will kill the virus. For more details about Avian influenza (Â¡Â°bird fluÂ¡Â±), please visit the web page below:</p>
<p>How were the BestroÂ¡Â¯s Roasted Chicken Jerky Treats made?</p>
<p>1) Materials only derived from the vet. office &amp; department of agriculture approved farms &amp; slaughterhouse.<br />
2) Roasted under 75Â¡Ã¦-85Â¡Ã¦ (167Â¨H-185Â¨H) for more than 10 hours.<br />
3) Go through our unique microwave system under 120Â¡Ã¦ (248Â¨H) to ensure the CORE temperature meets the minimum standard of 70Â¡Ã¦ (158Â¨H) to kill the virus in ALL PARTS.<br />
4) Treated by irradiation (Gamma Ray) to eliminate the harmful bacteria.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.itchmo.com/fda-continues-to-investigate-chicken-jerky-pet-treats-2967" rel="nofollow">http://www.itchmo.com/fda-cont.....reats-2967</a></p>
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		<title>By: Purringfur</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-72917</link>
		<author>Purringfur</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 16:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-72917</guid>
		<description>Does anyone know what kind of irradiator machines these various companies are using?  And, radiation poisoning can be caused by heavy metal exposure/ingestion (mercury, lead, cadmium, plutonium, uranium, etc.)

One Chinese company, the one that said it got its chickens from veterinary offices, said it used GAMMA RAY irradiation to kill viruses, etc.  Gamma rays come from Cobalt-60.  Do we know what radioactive substance(s) was/were used and what irradiation method was used?  Cobalt-60, (rather than Caesium 134 or 137), is by far the preferred substance for food irradiation.   

One type of gamma irradiator using Cobalt-60, instead of irradiating packaged food on pallets, keeps the Cobalt-60 submerged in a pool of water, and the food to be irradiated is placed in a hermetically sealed "bell" chamber.  The chamber is then lowered into the pool of water for irradiation.  Apparently, the water absorbs all of the irradiation.  Does anyone know if the food is packaged or unpackaged before being placed in the chamber?  With this submersion process, there is no need to shield anything/anyone from radiation.  With the pallet method, I believe shields need to be in place to protect the workers/other objects from the radiation.  Maybe I'm wrong???  I'm trying to understand this process.

If the bell chamber leaked or the seal was weak, allowing the irradiated water in, what would happen to the food?

I know nothing about irradiation and don't know if this has anything to do with the foods at all... just sharing some info on an alternative method for irradiation that does not irradiate the packaged foods on pallets for several minutes.

Are there any scientists here?

Here is information on a Cobalt-60 Disaster from China Central TV, 2006:

http://www.cctv.com/program/nature&#38;science/20060321/100229.shtml

"The Effects of Ionising Radiation on the Kidneys" - www.cea.fr

http://www.cea.fr/var/cea/storage/static/gb/library/clefs48/pdfgb/048a050gb.pdf 

Irradiation of Animal Feed (Includes Pet Treats), 2001:

http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/ANSWERS/2001/ANS01074.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know what kind of irradiator machines these various companies are using?  And, radiation poisoning can be caused by heavy metal exposure/ingestion (mercury, lead, cadmium, plutonium, uranium, etc.)</p>
<p>One Chinese company, the one that said it got its chickens from veterinary offices, said it used GAMMA RAY irradiation to kill viruses, etc.  Gamma rays come from Cobalt-60.  Do we know what radioactive substance(s) was/were used and what irradiation method was used?  Cobalt-60, (rather than Caesium 134 or 137), is by far the preferred substance for food irradiation.   </p>
<p>One type of gamma irradiator using Cobalt-60, instead of irradiating packaged food on pallets, keeps the Cobalt-60 submerged in a pool of water, and the food to be irradiated is placed in a hermetically sealed &#8220;bell&#8221; chamber.  The chamber is then lowered into the pool of water for irradiation.  Apparently, the water absorbs all of the irradiation.  Does anyone know if the food is packaged or unpackaged before being placed in the chamber?  With this submersion process, there is no need to shield anything/anyone from radiation.  With the pallet method, I believe shields need to be in place to protect the workers/other objects from the radiation.  Maybe I&#8217;m wrong???  I&#8217;m trying to understand this process.</p>
<p>If the bell chamber leaked or the seal was weak, allowing the irradiated water in, what would happen to the food?</p>
<p>I know nothing about irradiation and don&#8217;t know if this has anything to do with the foods at all&#8230; just sharing some info on an alternative method for irradiation that does not irradiate the packaged foods on pallets for several minutes.</p>
<p>Are there any scientists here?</p>
<p>Here is information on a Cobalt-60 Disaster from China Central TV, 2006:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cctv.com/program/nature&amp;science/20060321/100229.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.cctv.com/program/na.....0229.shtml</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The Effects of Ionising Radiation on the Kidneys&#8221; - <a href="http://www.cea.fr" rel="nofollow">www.cea.fr</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.cea.fr/var/cea/storage/static/gb/library/clefs48/pdfgb/048a050gb.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.cea.fr/var/cea/stor.....a050gb.pdf</a> </p>
<p>Irradiation of Animal Feed (Includes Pet Treats), 2001:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/ANSWERS/2001/ANS01074.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/.....01074.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sandi K</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-72913</link>
		<author>Sandi K</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 15:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œMaking changes without a solid basis for the changes at best would be ineffective; at worst, it could â€¦ magnify a problem a problem if a problem does exist,â€ said David Syverson, pet food committee chairman for the American Association of Feed Control Officers.

This from the article above.......god knows making changes in advance of killing more pets is unheard of.  Dont any of these companies learn from the recall?  If you are getting reports that there are numerous sick or dead pets after eating your product, pull it off the shelves and look into it.  Dont gamble on further pets lives.  Anytime I see statements from AAFCO or PFI, they are always defending their product, not the pets that its being fed to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œMaking changes without a solid basis for the changes at best would be ineffective; at worst, it could â€¦ magnify a problem a problem if a problem does exist,â€ said David Syverson, pet food committee chairman for the American Association of Feed Control Officers.</p>
<p>This from the article above&#8230;&#8230;.god knows making changes in advance of killing more pets is unheard of.  Dont any of these companies learn from the recall?  If you are getting reports that there are numerous sick or dead pets after eating your product, pull it off the shelves and look into it.  Dont gamble on further pets lives.  Anytime I see statements from AAFCO or PFI, they are always defending their product, not the pets that its being fed to.</p>
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		<title>By: menusux</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-72902</link>
		<author>menusux</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 14:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/pet-treat-manufacturers-to-develop-feeding-guidelines-3704#comment-72902</guid>
		<description>Chris says: 

November 4th, 2007 at 9:38 am 

"Smokehouse has switched to US distributors for their chicken. You will see product labeling stating such more and more that it is made in the USA."

Smokehouse apparently will buy from anyone if the price is right:

http://www.alibaba.com/company/10184268.html

"We are specifically interested in dried chicken treats. We also have interest in all other pet products.

Company Name: smokehouse pet products
Business Type:  Manufacturer  
Product/Service:  Dog treats, beef, pork, lamb 
Company Address:  11850 sheldon st, los angeles, California
Legal Representative/Business Owner:  zelko majstorich"

"The reason chicken from China has been used vs US chicken is that the Chinese consumers prefer dark meat, and more preferably pork and the white meat was their waste."

WT hype-you've switched the brand pitch:

http://www.adipet.com/General/FAQ.shtml

"We discovered the average person in China prefers dark meat (i.e. legs, wings, etc.) and as a result we can buy the white meat breasts and tenderloins from chickens grown for human consumption at a fraction of the price available elsewhere. "

"Chinese producers also seem to stray away from hormone induced feed, unlike the US, so their chicken is said to actually be healthier. "

So healthy that China is still unable to export it to the US for human consumption. They also stray toward feed "additives" like melamine...

"But once they switch to the US chicken it will be one more thing for people to complain aboutâ€¦hormones. Though theyâ€™ve been used for yearsâ€¦reason Doctors think kids are developing faster. But heyâ€¦itâ€™s only our children."

Not buying this at all because organic chicken is available readily--every market has an organic poultry section. File complaints re: medicated feed with FDA with citations; if there's proof re: hormones and early child development, it will be investigated.  And if things are healthier in China, why is OASIS full of refused seafood products because of non-US approved antibiotics in them, salmonella contamination, etc?

"Chicken jerky like Smokehouse, PCI, etc are overfeed by consumers."

And while there would be reason to see nutritional deficiencies because of this in the dogs of those who do, there's no medical evidence at all that Fanconi's is caused by nutritional deficits.  If you can rule out genetic causes and Fanconi's secondary to other diseases, the only choice left is ingesting toxic substances.

"Guidelines do need to be added to the products because not everyone uses common sense."

Lack of common sense re: overfeeding chicken jerky should not cause Fanconi's.  The guidelines should have been with these products all along, then--not suspiciously and suddenly appear after illness and death reports and appear for only those Smokehouse items Made in China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris says: </p>
<p>November 4th, 2007 at 9:38 am </p>
<p>&#8220;Smokehouse has switched to US distributors for their chicken. You will see product labeling stating such more and more that it is made in the USA.&#8221;</p>
<p>Smokehouse apparently will buy from anyone if the price is right:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alibaba.com/company/10184268.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.alibaba.com/company/10184268.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;We are specifically interested in dried chicken treats. We also have interest in all other pet products.</p>
<p>Company Name: smokehouse pet products<br />
Business Type:  Manufacturer<br />
Product/Service:  Dog treats, beef, pork, lamb<br />
Company Address:  11850 sheldon st, los angeles, California<br />
Legal Representative/Business Owner:  zelko majstorich&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The reason chicken from China has been used vs US chicken is that the Chinese consumers prefer dark meat, and more preferably pork and the white meat was their waste.&#8221;</p>
<p>WT hype-you&#8217;ve switched the brand pitch:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.adipet.com/General/FAQ.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.adipet.com/General/FAQ.shtml</a></p>
<p>&#8220;We discovered the average person in China prefers dark meat (i.e. legs, wings, etc.) and as a result we can buy the white meat breasts and tenderloins from chickens grown for human consumption at a fraction of the price available elsewhere. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Chinese producers also seem to stray away from hormone induced feed, unlike the US, so their chicken is said to actually be healthier. &#8221;</p>
<p>So healthy that China is still unable to export it to the US for human consumption. They also stray toward feed &#8220;additives&#8221; like melamine&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;But once they switch to the US chicken it will be one more thing for people to complain aboutâ€¦hormones. Though theyâ€™ve been used for yearsâ€¦reason Doctors think kids are developing faster. But heyâ€¦itâ€™s only our children.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not buying this at all because organic chicken is available readily&#8211;every market has an organic poultry section. File complaints re: medicated feed with FDA with citations; if there&#8217;s proof re: hormones and early child development, it will be investigated.  And if things are healthier in China, why is OASIS full of refused seafood products because of non-US approved antibiotics in them, salmonella contamination, etc?</p>
<p>&#8220;Chicken jerky like Smokehouse, PCI, etc are overfeed by consumers.&#8221;</p>
<p>And while there would be reason to see nutritional deficiencies because of this in the dogs of those who do, there&#8217;s no medical evidence at all that Fanconi&#8217;s is caused by nutritional deficits.  If you can rule out genetic causes and Fanconi&#8217;s secondary to other diseases, the only choice left is ingesting toxic substances.</p>
<p>&#8220;Guidelines do need to be added to the products because not everyone uses common sense.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lack of common sense re: overfeeding chicken jerky should not cause Fanconi&#8217;s.  The guidelines should have been with these products all along, then&#8211;not suspiciously and suddenly appear after illness and death reports and appear for only those Smokehouse items Made in China.</p>
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