Purina Denies Woman’s Claim On Dogs’ Deaths
Last month, we posted a story about a breeder who has been in an ongoing battle with Nestle Purina. She claims Purina dog food caused the death of at least one of her dogs.
But now, the insurance company that represents Nestle Purina has denied any liability in the deaths of her dogs.
Julie, a Kentucky breeder, said two of her champion Bichon Frise, Beeble and Kayla, suddenly died last year. They both died within two months of each other. She was feeding her dogs Purina One, Purina ProPlan, and Purina Dog Chow.
She said both of the dogs were healthy and were bred from champion bloodlines.
“I think there’s something wrong with the food,†she stated. “There’s no other explanation for these dogs to suddenly die.â€
Beeble, a 12-month-old Bichon Frise, began to drank excessive amounts of water and became lethargic. She died four days later.
Two months later, Julie’s eight-year-old Bichon Frise, Kayla (pictured here), also died.
Julie was determined to figure out why her dogs had died, so she had autopsies performed on Beeble and Kayla. The autopsy report on Beeble showed a possible link between her death and the food she ate.
Pathologists discovered problems with Beeble’s liver that were “consistent with exposure to a hepatotoxin such as aflatoxin.â€
“The aflatoxins could have come from the (dog) food,†Beeble’s veterinarian, Douglas Mickey, said. “Aflatoxins are known to be found in moldy grains, like corn that would be in dog food.â€
Dr. Mickey also stated: “If you’re asking me if there’s a possible connection between the pet food and Beeble’s death, the answer is: you can’t rule that out.â€
In regards to Kayla’s death, it is still unknown what caused her death. Dr. Mickey stated that she didn’t die from anything in her food.
Despite the autopsy report, Julie is still convinced Purina’s dog food also led to Kayla’s death.
Purina’s insurance company disagrees with Julie.
Julie received this letter from Sedgwick Claims Management Services: “After careful review of the records from the University of Tennessee Veterinary Teaching Hospital, I must respectfully deny liability on behalf of Nestle’ Purina PetCare Company for this claim . . . neither Beedle’s (sic) nor Kayla’s medical problems would result from their diets.â€
Sedgwick Claims Management Services, which misspelled Beeble’s name, said she died from “severe hemorrhagic bronchopneumonia.†They said Kayla died from what “appeared to be steroid induced and most likely the result of Cushing’s syndrome.â€
Julie said the company made their decision without reading the entire autopsy report.
“I immediately called the insurance company after I received the letter and asked them how they could disregard the pathologist’s finding that the problems with Beeble’s liver were consistent with exposure to aflatoxins,†Julie said. “And the claims adjuster told me she didn’t see that in the report…she admitted that she didn’t have a copy of the last page of the autopsy report.â€
Julie sent the report to the insurance company again.
“But a claim examiner called me later and said the company had reached the same conclusion…it wasn’t Purina’s fault. I asked them again about the aflatoxins and they just said Beeble died from pneumonia. They also said Kayla died from steroid induced Cushing’s syndrome, but she was never on steroids.â€
Purina has declined to comment on the findings.
But Julie is not done fighting. The ASPCA is now interested in Julie’s case. An ASPCA veterinarian is reviewing the dogs’ medical records and autopsy reports. The organization said it is too premature to comment on any findings because they just received the documents earlier this week.
Julie may also pursue legal action and said she would do whatever it takes to get justice for her dogs and other pets.
“I’m not doing this to make a profit,†she said. “I never wanted to pursue legal action in the first place. All I wanted was for Purina to take my information and check its food. But now they need to acknowledge that this has happened and make sure no one else’s pets die. I don’t want any other animals to die like mine. You know that old saying that ‘something is rotten in the state of Denmark?’ Well, something is definitely rotten at Purina.â€
Source: Consumer Affairs
September 6th, 2007 at 8:38 am
Purina should be ashamed. How can a claims adjuster deny the pathology report or the report from the dogs’ vet……I hope the ASPCA discovers the truth. Thank God there is Itchmo to make these stories public. More and more of these need to come out to the public.
September 6th, 2007 at 8:58 am
ok. Thousands of dog deaths and all the same symptons and it is from the food. Yet the Dog food manufacturers keep lying to cover their losses (their ass). Their motto must be deny, deny, deny. Of course the Insurance adjusters playing God, hopefully will pay at the Pearly Gates, when they are turned away and enter the gates of Hell.
September 6th, 2007 at 9:12 am
Lots of anecdotal info about problems with Purina:
http://www.doggienews.com/2005.....t-food.htm
Also, the recall in Venezuela a few years ago.
September 6th, 2007 at 9:14 am
I think that the woman should be ashamed in jumping to conclusions and joining the U.S. “sue everything that has money bandwagon”
She should have waited until it was conclusive and confirmed before filing such charges with thorough documentation.
Could it be the dog food company? We don’t know. Could it be the distributor who stored and transported the food? We don’t know. Could it be the store that sold the food for their stocking practices? We don’t know. Could it even be the food itself? We don’t know. Could it be another factor not considered like an infection or (heaven forbid) sabotage from a rival breeder? We don’t know.
The fact is…. we flat out don’t know.
She should have made sure it was confirmed before filing any kind of law suite to find out (a) her chances in winning (b) who to sue or (c) is it an actual lawsuit or criminal charges if it was an individual that was responsible?
Going to court to try to sue the wrong group/company/individual is costly and it doesn’t not yield anything. Find out who you are up against first and not having to waste unnecessary court fees and time spent to try to get compensation when at that point it may have been simply cheaper to pay for new stud fees and get new pure breeds.
In short, until she is absolutely certain, she’s barking up the wrong tree. (pardon the pun)
September 6th, 2007 at 9:28 am
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Ang says:
September 6th, 2007 at 9:14 am
Did you read the same story I did?? It does not say she is suing. It does say that her vet said that the death was consitent with aflatoxin poisoning– I think you have missed the point—the insurance adjusters did not have all the info when making their denial decision—that is the outrage here I think. Unless I missed an important part of the story, I think you are barking up the wrong tree.
September 6th, 2007 at 9:31 am
Ang says: “In short, until she is absolutely certain, she’s barking up the wrong tree. (pardon the pun)”
I say: BS (pardon my pun)…….
Since March, do you believe all these beloved cats & dogs died from something in the air or is it just possible that the commercial pf is tainted & the execs at these very same pf companies are refusing to take any responsibility for what they purchased & mixed into their products??????? I bet you also believe that MF was a poor innocent victim in this whole thing.
Oh puuuuullllllllleeeeeezzzzz, maybe you better go back to March & check a few posts & news reports on exactly what happened.
September 6th, 2007 at 9:34 am
Ang I read the story and don’t agree with your conclusions . I think it states she is considering a law suit. Do you think all the other pet deaths are some one other than the manufacturers fault?
September 6th, 2007 at 10:34 am
Can’t pay the bills but you CAN pay trolls, Purina?
http://users.wolfcrews.com/toys/vikings/
September 6th, 2007 at 10:39 am
Yesterday my friend’s dog, Bessie, had to be put down. 3 wks ago Diane changed her dog food to Purina, a few days ago she got sick, all the symptoms of the pet food poisoning.
What is being added to the pet food?! I am beginning to think this can’t be accidental after ALL THESE MONTHS of pets dying! If it was accidental, surely the companies would have cleaned up their act SOMEWHAT at least!
September 6th, 2007 at 10:53 am
Purina’s canned response to every call and email is to offer a coupon for more food. Anyone else see the irony there?
September 6th, 2007 at 11:02 am
Elaine, I have thought for a long time that it MUST be deliberate and others do too!
Why the lies and the aggressive cover up unless they intended to KEEP killing?
I think the death toll is close to 500,000, maybe more and the survivors, getting expensive vet care that is NOT being paid for by the poisoners, have to be in the hundreds of thousands too.
Easy enough to count the survivors NOW, isn’t it? But”somehow” not getting done.
There has to be much, MUCH worse stuff in the food than we know now.
September 6th, 2007 at 11:07 am
Ashamed? Why for doing the right thing my babies were healthy they ate only Purina, and now they are dead were do you think aflatoxin comes from?
I did not run and sue I have tried for over a year to get Purina to do the right thing and test their food.
As to another breeder doing this NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!! Bichon people are not that type of people.
Also as to being cheaper to pay for studs fee and get new pure breeds ,
maybe if you don’t care about your pets or others.
You cannot replace a beloved pet I wont try..
September 6th, 2007 at 11:11 am
E.,
Another thought in the back of my mind, (not to give companies a pass) is that these companies are losing money and pets are still dying from eating the food, so is it something more sinister, like a trial balloon to see how easy U.S. is to control?
We bloggers are aware and telling others, word is spreading and more people are aware all the time. But look how many folks are STILL feeding pet food from companies that have recalls and tell themselves it is SAFE now? We have become a nation of SHEEPLE!
September 6th, 2007 at 11:16 am
Elaine what kind of purina was your friend feeding her pets. It might be good to know. I think this womans pets did die from aflatoxin poisoning. This mold happens a lot in pet food. This will be a bad year for it too. I seen really bad wheat yields this year and some of them were cutting it when it should have been just turned over. They will not be able to sell this stuff to food manufactureres but they will the pet manufacturers. Anyway time corn or wheat, etc is not fit for humans it is sold to the pet manufacturers and feed for chickens, cattle, and hogs. I am sure there is mold in a lot of these yields this year and it scares me! I fear a lot more pets may get sick again.
If these companies want to do the right thing they will have on sight testing of all their food ingredients. They should not expect everyone to do their own testing of the product they sell. This is the only way that they can possibly gain any trust back from the public. They guarantee their products so they have the responsibility to make sure the product is not poison.
I would think they would want to do this because if they keep killing off pets where is their profit? I would think they would want to do this because so many vitamins, etc must come from China now and there will always be a risk.
Are these companies totally stupid? With no pets where is their income?
September 6th, 2007 at 11:21 am
I do really have a bad feeling about the pet food here in the USA. We lived in South Africa. The cat food there was just pure pilchards(fish) and was better grade stuff than human pilchards. My cats were healthy, we moved here to the US, they had to spend 3 months in quarantine. In those 3 months our cat Baby became very fat and we only found out after her death from ARF that she was hypoT. Our cat Midnight became HyperT which we didn’t find out about until 1 year before he died from CRF.
Now I have to consider that the only difference was the food they were being fed. Last two weeks some of my cats have been vomiting and all of my cats have had diarrhea. We don’t know if it’s a bug or the food, so we stopped feeding them the food. Cosmo seems to be fine now but the others are still vomiting and having diarrhea. So maybe it was just a bug? I don’t know, but it scares me that’s for sure!!
September 6th, 2007 at 11:23 am
Oh I should state that we moved to the US in 1994, Baby passed away in 2003 and Midnight passed away in 2004.
September 6th, 2007 at 11:28 am
Elaine,
Who knows at this point?
I would not put ANYTHING past them.
The FDA help with the cover up is being exposed and now with all the toy recalls a WHOLE LOT OF TICKED OFF MOMS are going to be going after the liars and the cover up is failing and the TRUTH is getting out slowly, and WOW are people pissed !
This “hidden”-HAH!! issue is going to effect more of the next election than the powers that_ used_ to be have any idea.
People are using spreadsheets and all kinds of stuff to figure who is in which pocket .
And no, I do not think the dying is done yet, not for the pets and maybe not for us.
I never WANTED to live through the last days of Rome but I think that is where we are.
Probably gonna be interesting, isn’t that an ancient curse? “May you live in interesting times.”
September 6th, 2007 at 11:31 am
Ang says:
September 6th, 2007 at 9:14 am
“I think that the woman should be ashamed in jumping to conclusions and joining the U.S. “sue everything that has money bandwagonâ€
You honestly think this is about money? Pffft!
“may have been simply cheaper to pay for new stud fees and get new pure breeds.”
Now that is a cold, cold statement. I bet your mother would be proud.
September 6th, 2007 at 11:37 am
Am I the only one wondering why a show dog is eating Purina?
September 6th, 2007 at 11:41 am
Julie,
Thank you for for sharing the info on your problems with Purina company. You have done the responsible thing and certainly should be compensated for your loss.
It has been said before, but we SHOULD be able to feed our pets food that we pay a higher price because it is “nutritionally balanced” and not be POISONING them!
In the long run, it would have been to the advantage of the PF companies to APOLOGIZE, pay all vet bills and compensation for loss, and CLEAN UP THEIR ACT!
September 6th, 2007 at 11:46 am
NH, my question exactly. Why would you feed such crappy food to a champion? One problem I have with all packaged pet food is lack of a freshness date. I opened a large bag of Royal Canin once and found a stinking mess of green mold. Petco refunded my money and I have never again purchased Royal Canin, but switched to Innova.
September 6th, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Seems to me that if Purina admits to the aflatoxin then they admit to having sub-standard, contaminated pet foods. They’ve somehow managed to stay under the “official” radar with “official” recalls, haven’t they? This whole thing makes me sick to my stomach (and I don’t even eat the “pet feed”)!
September 6th, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Highnote,
I don’t know what Purina Diane was feeding. She didn’t have the sack as she stores food in a big container. I told her to save some in a ziplock and freeze it. She was going to trash the rest, but I told her to take it back to the store. I will ask her next opportunity which formula it was.
She works for the grocery store where she bought the Purina, and even though I had been telling her about the problems with pet food, she assumed it was now SAFE because she knew the grocery store had shipped the recalled food back to the company.
As for a breeder using a Purina product for show dogs, if you believe what is claimed on the package and is advertised, you think it is “nutritionally complete, has Omega 3’s, fish oil, etc., etc.,” It also would be claimed to produce healthy coats, bright eyes, longevity, etc. etc.. And the price would suggest it was a premium product over store brand el cheapo product.
Some of us don’t have access to high-end pet food outlets, and a grocery store or feed store is our source of pet food. Or–Science Diet at the vet clinic, which may be a 75 mile trip on a dirt road.
Turns out some of the el cheapo foods were a better bet than the ones we thought were so great! So—I think we shouldn’t equate what we feed our pets as to how well we love them, etc.
September 6th, 2007 at 12:07 pm
Julie, Thanks for sharing your story. I hope the ASPCA gets to the bottom of this for you. To think the claim was denied without the correct information is a horrible mistake that Purina’s insurance company made. I hope this comes to light and I wish you luck in the future with this claim. I did not get the impression that you were “all about a lawsuit” and to those that did, for you to not already have litigation going should say sdomething!! To think that even your vet could report this may be related to the food should have been a red flag for Purina….although I think (IMO) that the pet food industry knows that it may be hard for vets to say 100% and they are taking advantage of that. I hope you have a vet that will help you fight this injustice.
September 6th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
OH GOD! Elaine. Science Diet is PURE POISON!!!! No matter what your vet says and the Foods name is PURE B S !!!!!! IAMS, EUKANUBA, any of them, you are running the chance of poisoning your animals. WHAT A HORRIBLE AND PAINFUL SUFFERING WAY TO GO!!!!! At the hands that are supposed to be doling out LOVE!!!!!
September 6th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
I, fed Purina because like others I had tought it to be a good food. I knew other show people who fed Pro-Plan so I did like alot of people do followed the leader, also Purina promots this food as ( Choosen by Champions and fuel the Champion within. Purina one second to none and by feeding their food from puppy to adult you can add 1.7 years to your dogs life).
These adds stick with you and before you know it you are feeding their foods. I also live in a small town the only places to get pet food is vets, wal-mart or food city ect no choices, but pedgree, Purina, ol-roy science diet, Iams and store brands.
I wish I had knew more I now home cook for my babies and I live every day with the regret that I fed Purina.
September 6th, 2007 at 12:35 pm
The ad companies need to have a few lawsuits filed against them too.
September 6th, 2007 at 12:37 pm
Nora,
Because of the info on Itchmo and Petconnection, I do realize the Science Diet isn’t good, and I have changed to Kumpi kibbles which I have sent to me by FedEx.
I just was making a point, that folks that dwell in the boonies, farmers, ranchers in remote areas, many with no internet access and no time to watch or read the news, had no choice except what was available in the feed store or grocery store, and therefore had no way of knowing that the claims made on the package OR the assurances by the vet were all BS!
Therefore, until I became informed throught the blogs, I thought I was doing the best for my pets by paying extra for the food the vets office sold. My dogs didn’t get sick on Science Diet, thank God! And now I am aware and trying to inform others, as well.
September 6th, 2007 at 12:39 pm
I agree with all of you. I still think someone is using us as a “test” for something even bigger. I mean using the pets.
I am one of those people who are one paycheck away from homeless. Thanks to the pet food, I not only lost cats, had a very sick dog, owe the vets tons of money and also had to go on nerve pills.
I live way out in the boonies, have one Wal Mart as the only store near Me. I am boycotting them as much as possible.
I was a breeder of bengals. then i stopped breeding and do rescue work. I now have to stop that. I home cook as much as possible, but have to fill in with kibble. We have over 20 cats and 4 dogs, fish and I feed the wild birds. All pets are spayed and nuetered.
So, I agree We shouldn’t be bying pet food. But what am I supposed to do? I love each and every one of My babies.
The nearest Petsmart is over 2 hours away and i try to go as much as possible.
I’m so sick of all this. And i do think it’s starting all over again. Something must be done.
I also get into all kinds of trouble talking to everyone i see in town bying certain foods. And trying to educate.
I had to go to Walmart this morning to get bird food. And I checked out the cat food. They have tons of Special kitty, in pouches and in cans. Also thoses stupid cheap cheap milk bones for dogs. This whole thing has about put Me in the nut house.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:39 pm
I posted this before, my younger brother bought a new place so he had to get a new vet.. He loves his dog (has no children) & has money. Has set up collage funds for lots of our great neice * nephews. I tell you this because he got what was supposed to be the “BEST” vet around. The new vet told him to buy Purina, it’s good food, doesn’t & won’t have any recalls & after all only 16 pets have died. He told the vet a lot of things I told him about food & the vet got mad. He said I was on the web & most of those people don’t know what they are talking about, there crazy. Look how long I went to school, look at my practice & I haven’t even had 1 animal sick on food. That’s all he had to say to him because my brother doesn’t trust the computer or web,does all is business face to face, telephone or banks. He told me to quite getting information off of the web.
That’s one more reason why people use Purina & other garbage food. Look at the Parade in this last Sunday’s paper that’s anouther vet.. Lots & lots of people don’t use the web, especialy blogs. Imo they arn’t the only 2 vets in the in good old USA saying this crap.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
I hope nothing happens to my brother’s dog but if it does he will sue. I know him & how much he loves his buddy & you better believe I’ll back him up.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:51 pm
Hi Trudy,
A few things I found out that may help: Usually you can buy big sacks of bird seed at feed stores, if you have one in your area. It is usually a lot cheaper.
I feed a raw egg mixed in a small amount of cottage cheese each day to my dog and then Kumpi kibble free choice. Eggs are not expensive, expecially if you can buy them in bulk, and I have heard an egg is a perfect food. This is easy to prepare.
That may be a good choice for cats as well. I used to cringe when the cat brought a mouse to show me, but now I know it is a perfect food for her, as long as I worm her often.
I never have fed dog treats to my dogs, their treat is a bite of my string cheese, or whatever they beg from hubby off his plate!
I’m not sure about Petsmart, but I know Petco is not a good place to buy pet food. My nearest big box stores are 150 miles away :), but I did go to Petco last time I was “out” and they had NO safe brands of pet food that I could see.
I ASKED the clerks where there was a pet store in town that would sell some of the good brands? I don’t mind telling them I won’t buy their food, won’t buy toys etc. from China. My way of getting the word out.
September 6th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
Excuse me I don’t care how cheap a pet food is or what brand it is it should not be poisen, cause illness or death to the animal.
If you buy a cheap package of food at the store for yourself do you deserve to die from it?
Honestly this is stupid. Let’s blame the consumer because the manufacturer is selling bad food. Any food purchased in any store in the United States of America should be safe to eat. PERIOD!
September 6th, 2007 at 2:07 pm
Judy I agree 100% with you, I think everybody would agree with you.
I don’t trust any pet food any more, I home cook. The pets & pet parents are the ones hurting.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
Well said, Judy!
Any food purchased in any store in the United States of America should be safe to eat. PERIOD!
As it turns out, some of the cheap food was way safer that the expensive food! For instance, more of the pouched and canned foods were tainted that the cheap kibble store brand! Knowing the BS they peddle, the cheap foods are probably as nutritional as well.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
“The interaction of sodium selenite (Na/sub 2/SeO/sub 3/) and aflatoxin B/sub 1/ (AFB/sub 1/) …..^Renal and intestinal damage, however, was most severe in this double-treatment group.^Hepatic protein analysis revealed two protein peaks in the Na/sub 2/SeO/sub 3/ + AFB/sub 1/ group that were absent in all other groups.^It was concluded that these proteins may be selenoproteins directly or indirectly involved in the lower incidence of histopathological damage in this group.”
http://www.osti.gov/energycita.....id=5704919
September 6th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
Another one. Wonder if there is a tradeoff in that certain selenium supplements may offer some liver protection from aflatoxin, but make kidneys more vulnerable?
http://www.osti.gov/energycita.....id=5973982
Effect of selenium on acute response to aflatoxin B/sub 1/
“.^A kidney lesion observed in rats fed 5 ppM Se and dosed with aflatoxin was characterized by marked tubular necrosis at the corticomedullary junction.^”
September 6th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
The Anon was me.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
http://www.commondreams.org/ar.....9/06/3647/
What’s Added Takes Away: What We Don’t Know About Food Additives and Why Our Governments Don’t Care
Brief Excerpt: …there is a long history of using additives to mislead consumers, with various chemicals employed to supply taste, enhance colour and disguise the aroma of spoiled meats. Before the advent of federal food safety laws in the United States, dangerous heavy metals were routinely used as colouring agents in children’s sweets.
It would be hard to find a processed food on a supermarket shelf (or on a fast food menu) that does not contain a vast array of chemical additives. Indeed, the packaged food industry and the fast food industry are dependent on the use of such additives to prevent spoilage, to allow the transport of products long distances, and to maintain uniformity. Any finding that such additives pose a threat to human health will threaten the financial health of these industries. And that is why so few large-scale studies have been conducted. The absence of adequate information greatly benefits the producers of industrial food.
In the United States there is an extremely cosy relationship between the food industry and the government agencies that are ostensibly regulating it. Until a few years ago, the head of the food and drug administration - our version of the Food Standards Agency, responsible for the safety of most of the food that Americans eat - was a former executive vice president of the national food processors association. Similarly close ties between industry and government can be found in the European Union. As a result, hundreds of food additives are never tested for harmful effects. And the risks posed by consuming a variety of additives in combination are rarely explored.
September 6th, 2007 at 2:57 pm
imo feeding purina is is a crap game, but then, so is any commercial petfood, even ‘better’ brands.
Does it strike anyone else that we are currently seeing a resurfacing of tainted foods from a variety of brands? Are previously ‘discarded’ tainted raw materials being reintroduced? Are old, never investigated stockpiles of raw materials being used? Is there a common thread in any of these? just thinking…
and I can’t help but wonder how long before another brand tries the old ’slap a new sticker on’ technique?
September 6th, 2007 at 4:44 pm
It’s time that vets who support big food and the PFI should be outed on a national registry so people of conscience can ask for services elsewhere. If they take the money by commission or grants, sell or recommend the food, or in anyway promote these enterprises, they should be considered as criminal as the killer companies. They are part of the problem and the quicker we identify these shills and lackeys the better off we will be.
If my vet quoted “sixteen deaths” to me, I would slap him down.
September 6th, 2007 at 4:45 pm
On Itchmo forums, Menusux has a posting about the FDA August refusals (They inspect less than 1%), and there were shipments of wheat gluten from China stopped for contamination, poison, etc. The MORONS are still importing that crap! I think “new” tainted materials are being made into pet food. Thousands of dead pets and these companies claim their food had no confirmed cases of ARF.
And, Ang, the way you talk about the US - are you from the PFI or Menu Foods?
September 6th, 2007 at 5:12 pm
Jay your idea of a national registry is one of greatest things I have heard. Not only would it hurt them but maybe some would wise up when it was made public. I know it can’t be done, but think of all the pet parents it would help, especialy the one who still don’t know what is going on.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:17 pm
RE: breeders feeding Purina and Eukanuba brands. Many of my breeder friends feed those brands because the companies offer them special discounts, etc. And, those companies back AKC events.
They hear from me about my survivor dog, and what is happening out there but they look at me like I’m nuts! and they keep on feeding the above foods. Until it happens to them personally - and than they will scream.
Katie
September 6th, 2007 at 5:19 pm
The registry is a great idea, here goes.
Every vet that is not screaming in outrage about what was done to the pets, and us, for the last 6 months is a big fat waste of oxygen. And should be boycotted, if not actually spit on.
I KNOW of ONE vet, MrsP has him, who got on the radio show and told the truth, so THAT _ONE_ VET is ok. No, THAT VET is a HERO!
All the vets who went to the big conference and kissed butt bigtime on the PFI and the FDA , those jerks are on the spit on list!
And the vet who said “16″ dead?, he should be lynched by people with dead pets, today.
You can’t cure that kind of stupid, best to get him INTO the food chain, dilute things down a bit.
September 6th, 2007 at 5:50 pm
Elaine, thanks.
Also, has anyone said yet where all the “poisened” food went? Or are We getting it back?
and where are the off topics listed?
September 6th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
Also, is wheat gluten something people should worry about in their food? My daughter was asking Me about this? thanks,
September 6th, 2007 at 6:14 pm
Anybody catch the connection this morning about the food safety discussion with Bush and the talking head from China this am. This guy claims that 99 % of Chinas imports are good. What a twisting of statistics that is! If our own FDA is only tagging 1 % because of understaffing etc. it comes out that 99% is safe. BECAUSE THE DIDN”T TEST THE OTHER 99% I stopped feeding my cats Purina 3 years ago when I saw signs of urinary tract infections, skin disorders and eye problems. We started home cooking but we sought out a so called “organic” health food endorsed brand called Pet Promise for their crunchy addiction. During the recall, I became suspiscious so I contacted Pet Promise…who never admitted they were Purina. It was hard to track down true information. And while I have lost no pets to this recent recall, I know that my cats roam, and that other cat owners put food out on their porches. My male cat vomited the other night and there was at least 4 different kids of food present. I can only control what they eat here. I refuse to break their spirits by keeping them inside as they love it outside and hate confinement! I think the only reason he survived the poisoning the other night is because he is so healthy from home cooked chicken and he has a resistance. Pet Promise never came clean with admitting they were Purina. That food costs over 9 dollars a bag. A small bag at that! We thought we were safe but we are not safe at all. And no one is until we find out what, who is responsible. No one can be trusted that has a vested interest in the Pet Food/ Rendering industry. It is up to local rendering plants if they use lab animas with toxic chemo therapy in them,if they don’t bother to cut off the flea collars etc before adding pets to the grinder! Our pets are dying in our behalf right now and if we do not pay better attention as to why and who, then I fear the next victims will be human. Let me be at ground zero as I don’t think I could handle poisoning my own pet. Those of you who were tricked…I pray for you and I will see you on the other side as I wish no heaven that does not include Nature.
September 6th, 2007 at 6:42 pm
Ang, is a cold troll.
Julie, I am sorry about your pets dying. I am glad that you are not backing down in what you believe is the right cause.
Too many pets are still getting sick and or still dying from eating Unrecalled dry dog food. And still the Pet food companies not taking any responsibility. Only changing to new colored food bags. And lots and lots of PR and coupon giveaways.
It just makes me sick, this is still happening after almost 6 months and pet food companies keep saying that the dry food is safe. How many more pets have to die because of their lack of concern?
IMO: my little pet also died from what I suspect may have been the dry food from another company, but it doesn’t make any difference which food it was. This shouldn’t happen with any brand of food.
September 6th, 2007 at 6:55 pm
All the recent troll activity is a GOOD sign, it means we must be doing something that bugs the pet food companies and the PFI, what with Menu going down the drain, P&G feeling the heat from the boycotts and the news spreading, well, we just need to try HARDER to get the news out.
The big lie failed and they KNOW that, the truth is getting out and it is going to cost them.
I really think we need to consider lawsuits against the ad agencies that are putting together the offensive TV ads we all hate so much. A few of those horrid ad agencies go up in front of a jury and I PROMISE there will be record breaking judgments!
Almost all my friends routinely yell “Lying bastids” or some version of that at pet food ads on TV, some even do it at sports bars and then answer questions on WHY they are calling the ads LIARS- very instructive for a lot of folks and helps get the word out.
September 6th, 2007 at 7:23 pm
Concur with E. that the reps from that world of pet food profiteering appear to be just a bit defensive. Good. I will go back over my archives and pull out the most penetrating facts and stories of the last months so they can be reminded once more that they are their worst enemy and not the public. Each bit of CYA they pull will receive a rebuttal that reminds us all to keep up the effort.
Meanwhile, I was reading the forum on dioxin poisoning, and even after all this time, I am still astounded and saddened by these creeps.
Here is the link for the story — why wasn’t this on the top of the news at some point:
Read it and weep.
http://www.terryjallen.com/journo-subP/dioxin.htm
September 6th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
Jay, thanks for that link. i read the whole thing. It’s just so unbelievable, yet believable. I sent it to all the people i know. Now, I know we’re all going to die and are probably dying slowly.
First, the pets, then all of us.
And who in Gov. or in the PFI gives a Da#@? We count for nothing.
September 6th, 2007 at 11:18 pm
E I like that idea of yell “lying Bast!!!!” out in front of people. Talking in a real loud voice in the coat departments about you think the coat was dog or cat instead of fake fur really helped a lot. It was dog & we knew it & after doing it often & writing into editoral pages of newspapers next thing we knew animal activists came (proberly Peta, don’t know) but boy did they do a He!! of a good job. They had people with signs at 4 stores, tv & newspaper people coverage. we didn’t even know it was happening till we saw it on the 6 pm news (we where trying to get more people to help us). In one day they had the stores saying they didn’t know about the dog fur, saying they where sorry & pulled the coats & then they where gone. Boy where we shocked & happy, 4 nobodys got enough attention to bring in the people who could do the job.
I’ll go into department stores too, they always have tv’s on. I won’t yell out l B but I will use my own words in a real loud voice. like maybe ” Look at that , that should be a sin. They killed so many of our dogs & cats & still trying to make more money & it aint even good food It’s by- products. Do you know what garbage by-products are? I think that might get some shoppers to talk to me.
I’m going to try something else too. When they give me cupons in the store for dog food I’m going to look at them & then tear them up & say loud enough for people to hear. Look at this, dog food killed thousands of dog & cats & made more sick & they have the nerve to disrespect us & give us cupons for garbage by-products dog food.
E. keep comming up with more ideas. Imo their is a lot of good people who just read the mail without posting. I didn’t post for a long time.
September 6th, 2007 at 11:26 pm
Julie- I am sorry that you lost your kids- I personally know the grief that you are experiencing. It’s been 6 weeks since I put Sheb to rest. And not a day goes by without a tear in my eye, due to missing her so much.
The more I read .. the more angry I become.
I have been ‘off line’ - out of ‘the loop’ of all this crap- due to the near nervous breakdown over all this. I finally called the DR yesterday- pled for help!
Keep the fight going.
These people are heartless- beginning at the head of the line China-our own President, these ruthless manufactures and retail stores who are only looking out for their bottom line profit..
The maufactures in China.. have their insurance people here in the USA protect them - and stand up for them, KNOWING DAMN well that there is a problem with the product.
What a consipircy.
I had to put my dog to rest due to kidney failure, from tainted dog treats.
Since then, I have been dealing with the whole damn gang, from retail store, their insurance co., with calls to the manufacture in China.. I have spoken with TOP VETs in the US- VETS at Universities, Chemist who are testing for Melemaine, & DEG to Salmanella & EColi- and the FDA.
the problem is that NO one (here in the US), can figure out which chemical, and bacteria that is causing all of this havic. (maybe both at the same time). NOR do they know how to treat it- other than FLUSH the kidneys.. Well, in my case it was too late to flush.
And I even have written document FROM this claims management co., stating that… they know that there is a problem with the product and
that it has been pulled from all shelves until they can find out what
happened and what portion of what lot was involved-
they are offering me a settlement.
So.. They say they know there is a problem with the product.
Admit that they ‘pulled the product’ (NO RECALL- just pulled),
and are STILL looking for what lot was involved..
And still the FDA has all of this information- and are STILL testing the product..
NO results yet. Finally a call back today from- FDA– “We cannot release any information at this time. It’s still an ongoing investigation that we are dilagently pursuing this matter.
OK…SO…
Walmart, Where’s your test results?? OKay TRACES of Melamine..
What else is there..
China food industry should be shut down..
September 6th, 2007 at 11:43 pm
Jay I read your link too. THANNKS. I believe every work of it. Our America is so sick.
Trudy, don’t you dare give up. We have kids just being born & we have to keep fighting & doing everything we can. You my sister are an important part of that, we all have to keep trying everything. We all know you are going thru some tuff times & you have a lot of people praying for you, so don’t you dare give up. Go look in the mirrow & think of all the good things you have done & all the love you have given people & pets. You have made a difference in this world & its time for you to know it. You my friend are a good person & in time good things are going to come back to you. When you get scared remember their is a big world out their filled with good people & they won’t give up.
September 6th, 2007 at 11:58 pm
IMO Sheba, I fell so bad for you. I am sorry all of this is happening to you. I will keep you in my prayers for a long time. I am sorry about your baby too. Wish we could do more to help.
September 7th, 2007 at 12:11 am
I agree with a few others. What champion dog breeder feeds Purina? I don’t get it. Just because it wasn’t on the list for the first round of recalls, doesn’t mean it is a good food. Don’t people read labels? geez.
I am so sorry for the loss of a pet, but when are people going to wake up and stop feeding this garbage to their pets?
September 7th, 2007 at 12:47 am
debbie T says:
September 7th, 2007 at 12:11 am
When they know, that is when. When the TRUTH is as widely known as the lying TV ads, that is when.
And THAT is why we cannot give up or give in or quit.
September 7th, 2007 at 1:36 am
Debbie T, When you win at a dog show your prize is mostly Eukanuba & maybe a show collor. I guess they are now giving Purnia too. At one time Eukanuba was consided good food & when money was tuff Eukanuba didn’t raise their price & for a little while even lost some cents on each bag to keep the price right for people. People who showed dogs remembered that & gave them their business. In 199? PG bought Eulanuba & has been cheapen it & adding garbage ever since. PFI has all the $ they need to keep buying people.
September 7th, 2007 at 9:04 am
Some of the major pet food companys have booths at dog shows . They print up the arm brands that exhibitors where. Many shows are pedigree, eukanuba , and purina. These companys will have tents or booths set up giving away samples etc.
September 7th, 2007 at 10:54 am
MODS: May we have a separate headline for the story about the DIOXIN/PCBs?
This went on for 4 months? No recalls? No warnings to the public?
An excerpt:
“During the four months between contamination and disclosure, livestock had eaten the feed, stored the dioxin in their body fat, and passed it on in milk, eggs and meat to humans and other animals. Some food contained almost 1,000 times the U.S. limit for the cumulative poison; just one of the contaminated eggs could increase a 3-year-old child’s dioxin load by 20 percent.
Dioxin and PCBs are dangerous toxic chemicals and potent carcinogens that pose a serious public health threat. It takes 20,000 times less dioxin than DDT to kill a person outright.”
http://www.terryjallen.com/journo-subP/dioxin.htm
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And someone finally thought to test the chickens that were dropping like flies from the Dioxin/PCB-laced feed. Doesn’t anyone test anything before it is mixed into feed consumed by animals for human consumption? And, of course, NOTHING can be tracked or traced!
If all of this is true (and I believe it), this needs to go to the mainstream media, Durbin, & anyone else who cares about staying alive.
Thanks, Jay. What a shocking read this was! We’re on our own!
September 7th, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Jenny Bark, thank you so very much. I respect You a great deal, sister.
I won’t give up, i promise. i hate them all as much as all of you do.
And i did buy the books that Lou Dobbs wrote. And also “The Jungle”. These are all great books.
I have written to Durbin and also Lou Dobbs, etc.
September 7th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
Since the Drs. can’t figure out what’s wrong with Me, maybe it’s Dioxin poisening? I wonder if that can cause anorexia?
September 7th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
I just got a call from a friend of Mine. she bought a bag of Purina “One” I think it was One, anyway Purina sensitive stomach for Her cats. They ended up throwing up all day. she threw the bad away. But doesn’t this sound very strange? It sounds like the same kind of poisening.
September 7th, 2007 at 5:27 pm
Trudy Jackson, who knows what is happening, but this Dioxin thing doesn’t look good. I’ve been thing all along that it is more than 1 or 2 things & that even after it’s figured out there will be more things. All of our food is so messed up. I would love nothing more than to be proved wrong, that would really make all of us happy. I’m just afraid that our babies is just the start. I want to be so wrong.
September 7th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
I do not have a clue what is going on with dioxin, more of the same from Monsanto and other big companies I guess.
There sure seems to be a lot of really nasty stuff in all food now. Great for the waistline though, just thinking about the FDA puts me off food.
I plan to take up smoking again since I enjoyed that a lot more than I have enjoyed the last few months and it certainly won’t hurt me any worse. At my age it hardly matters and I plan to do more drinking of the hard hooch too!
If I was not so in love with my husband, and quite a bit younger, I might go back to fooling around with young hot guys so don’t be looking to me for the clean living tips!
September 7th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
E, you are great to have on here.
September 7th, 2007 at 9:05 pm
Purina Ratite Bioplex, a feed premix packaged in 25kg bags, Recall # V-059-2007
RECALLING FIRM/MANUFACTURER
Recalling Firm: Alltech, Inc., Nicholasville, KY, by telephone and e-mail.
Manufacturer: Alltech, Inc., Alexandria, Canada. Firm initiated recall is ongoing.
REASON
Bioplex Copper 10%, a feed premix, and premixes containing Bioplex Copper, were made using copper sulfate pentahydrate that was contaminated with dioxin like PCBs.
VOLUME OF PRODUCT IN COMMERCE
147,785 kg
DISTRIBUTION
Nationwide and Internationally
END OF ENFORCEMENT REPORT FOR AUGUST 15, 2007
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September 7th, 2007 at 9:23 pm
Trudy, I DO apologize if that sounded like I am not concerned about your health. I hope you feel better. Myself, I have found that the LESS that I bother with Doctors, the MORE I enjoy life.
Health nazi’s, as I call em, just bore the daylights out of me and not a single one of them has as good a time as I seem to find without all the fretting about what sugar or fat or whatever the boogey man du jour is, I eat what I like, get my exercise laying down and just get on with life.
I DID need to go get some pain pills from a Doc a while ago but I told him he could skip the lecture about water skiing at my age because I had to bet to win and it was WORTH a sprain!
September 7th, 2007 at 10:32 pm
E…….I just love your attitude about life & living it YOUR way. I laugh out loud at some of your comments. You are definitely one of my favorite people & a lady that I would definitely choose as my friend.
If I ever thought we lived fairly close, I’d drive over & take you to the nearest bar to discuss life, love & scope out the young hotties……I know you love your husband, bless your little heart, but you can look can’t you???????
I’m just sorry it took something this horrendous to bring us all together.
September 7th, 2007 at 11:49 pm
Pukanuba , fear not, I did a lot more than look before my wonderful hubbie wormed his way into my black heart!
You bet I still look, lust in more places than my heart and come from a long line of feisty.
Friends are friends, hon, I have made good friends in places and times worse than this, I will take them where I can find them.
We will ALL get together sometime and have a blowout party that will lower property values for miles, my vote for the place is the smoking hole in the ground that is all that remains of Menu Foods. Good enough party and the new owners of the land won’t even need bulldozers. Trust me.
September 8th, 2007 at 9:20 pm
Who wrote that Purina had dioxin in it? thanks for the info. where can I find the page?
Thanks E, You are so much fun. We will all get together some day, even if it’s at a strike or something.
You all on here do make life a lot better.
September 10th, 2007 at 11:31 am
I found this on the FDA wed site just type premixes + Purina it is at the bottom of the page.
Or type Purina Ratite Bioplex the report is at the bottom of the page you have to look good or you’ll miss it.I over looked it 3 times.
October 21st, 2007 at 5:21 pm
My dog is DEAD AS A DIRECT RESULT of PURINA DOG FOOD.
The C.E.O. of Purina acts like he never heard of this event happening. Denial is not the action a C.E.O. should take. Our dog died a slow painful death when her kidneys shut down due to the Malomine in the food. I was offered less than 9 pennies per day for her life, and death. They neglect to apologize, acknowledge their responsibility to the consumers (who trusted that they were feeding their dog good food, not poisoned food.)
It is a very sad world. Next stop, Oprah. Howard Stern took a call from a woman the other day who exposed Purina. Good for her. I hope some of his 12 million listeners will get a lawsuit going and drain them dry, especially all the money the C.E.O. has accumulated for NOT doing oversight on this product. Maybe he will lose his job. I suggest he eats some of this product, as a testing procedure…oh, no, that wont work, I am certain he is afraid he will be poisoned too.
Purina was supposed to represent all that is good for a dog, now all they look at are profit margins, they merged with the Nestle company (this will increase profits.), so remember the next tiime that you make hot tea, or iced tea, the consumer can die too… they apparently do not check anything anymore. People will drop like the pets next…What a sad world. Oprah, Lou Dobbs, Ellen, I will be calling. A sad Family in Missouri.