http://www.animaltherapy.net/B.....-Link.html

http://www.silentwitness.org/h.....ime_id=139

Others have proposed Neighborhood Watch programs and educating kids. Excellent ideas.

EXACTLY! That is it in a nutshell!!!!

considering the link between animal abuse and child/domestic abuse…what are the odds that MV is beating his girlfriend and/or wife?

What would an amends be: Volunteering to pay for the care of the confiscated dogs for the rest of their lives, including a place for the ones who can’t be adopted to live. Or how about a sizable ($1+ million) to start a rehab shelter for former fighting dogs.

Do you think he would think to do this on his own? No, because he couldn’t care less about the dogs. Even his paid advisors seem clueless as to what its going to take to give Vick a tiny chance to redeem himself. They are all so busy trying to keep Vick clear of the gambling charges that they have forgotten that if the fans don’t want him back on the team he won’t be coming back.

I don’t agree with the choice - but choosing to be mean and sadistic and take pleasure in the pain of animals and humans is seen as making a choice to be strong and to have broken the bonds of those that are abused (the victim - so they think I will not be weak - I will be strong and mean) - so they- the victimized - become the abuser.

Whatever the reason, being an abuser is wrong and evil and deserves harsh punishment.

“I find it horribly sad and incredibly ironic that they view dogs with the same lack of compassion as white slaveowners viewed blacks.”

EXACTLY. I was thinking this just yesterday. You could have an opening statement that goes something like this:

“The men gathered around cheering and jeering as he was beaten, repeatedly. Bloody and gasping for breath, they held his head underwater, laughing as he struggled to free himself, in vain. He was overpowered, outnumbered, hopeless. Then he struggled no more. After they had killed him, they defiled his body — burned it, threw it on a trash heap, treated it without any respect.

When people spoke out against what was being done to his kind, they were chided. He’s not human like we are, they were told. His kind are inferior, they are animals. We do with them as we please. If he doesn’t serve his master as his master wishes, he is worthless. WE OWNED HIM. In other words, shut up.”

We could be talking about black slaves being beaten and killed by their “masters,” or hung by the KKK. Or, we could be talking about these poor dogs.

The exact same statements would apply in either case.

What is so horrifying about people, is that instead of being humanized and sensitized by the historical sufferings of “our people” — instead of having past injustices teach us tenderness and empathy for others, and teach us the WRONGNESS of cruelty . . . instead, the oppressed, once free from their oppressors, seem to want nothing more than to become LIKE their oppressors, and visit cruelties upon others. When challenged, they justify their actions based on their historical persecution. This is true throughout the world, in many cultures and situations. You can look anywhere and see it.

Stefani
The Toonces Project
http://www.TheTooncesProject.com
“Is Your Pet Safe at the Vet?”

Years worth of bad conduct, gambling, dog fighting, animal cruelty isn’t a mistake or immature. It’s a lack of morality, conscience and humanity. It is an ingrained behavior! Not a mistake or something you will grow out of. Can he change? Maybe… but only if he truly takes responsiblity for everything he did. That includes killing dogs.

As for Vick…..I have to wonder if he’s really following his attorneys’ advice. Usually in a legal matter so high profile as this one, your attorneys are breathing down your neck 24/7 to keep you out of further trouble. Yet somehow Vick managed to make some sort of deal to appear on Joyner’s show. Then it became publicly known he would appear. My guess is that that’s how Vick’s attorneys learned of the scheduled appearance, then ordered Vick to cancel the appearance. Just a suspicion. But one wonders how many other things Vick is going to do without the concurrence of his legal advisors. Oh well…..give someone enough rope…..hang himself with it…..

There is NOTHING, and I do mean NOTHING, that Vick could say about the dogs that would be honest. Why? Because he is incapable of feeling anything about the dogs at all. So don’t expect anything from him.

As far as those people who seem to accept Vick’s apologies yesterday, and who believe he sounded sincere and remorseful……..well, those people are very, very poor judges of character. But they will learn.

Here’s some of it:

“We can no longer allow celebrities and politicians to break laws and then use ‘Jesus’ as a get-out-of-jail free card. Most of these people go right back into their bad behavior and criminal activities as soon as the storm passes.”

“If Vick is truly contrite and has found God, he wouldn’t have minimized his crime by describing it as a ‘mistake’ or as ‘immature’. He would have confessed; assumed total responsibility, and then asked God to give him the strength to endure his punishment. That would have been a great example for the youth.”

See http://www.standardnewswire.co.....51499.html