Recall Update: Friday

Update to the update. (Noon Pacific)

Here’s the transcript of the FDA conference where the 8,000+ number came from (emphasis ours):

DR. MICHAEL ROGERS: I can update or provide some context to that number as we provide it. This group last week, we stated the agency has received more than 17,000 calls from consumers that allege animal illness or death associated with pet food products. Our preliminary review of those, and we’ve certainly entered a subset of those into our official data system, but the preliminary reviews suggest that as many as 50 percent allege an animal death associated with those pet food products. But as part of a long-term process, the agency will be evaluating those calls and determine their direct association to the implicated product.

DR. ACHESON: I want to emphasize that Michael Rogers said “allege.” This does not mean it’s definitive proof as I understand that.

If any media organizations want background information on this story, email us and we will call you back. We can get you up to speed ASAP, as we have done for many other news outlets.

Also, Pet Connection reports that Sen. Durbin’s office still has not received a reply from the FDA regarding the possible second rice protein importer.

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  1. Henry Barth says:

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig6/douglass4.html

    Your Dog Is Not a Vegetarian
    by William Campbell Douglass II, MD

    When I first reported on the breaking story of contamination in mass-produced pet foods that has so far sickened and killed thousands of our beloved American pets – dog and cats, specifically – because it was so early on in the crisis, I had very little information to impart about exactly what was causing these casualties.

    But I did have some recommendations on how to safeguard your kitties and pups against this fate: To feed them ONLY raw liver, chicken necks, hamburger, and any other uncooked meats and animal organs. This should include at least one daily raw egg – including the shell – rounding out their diet with cut vegetables put on top.

    This advice of mine directly contradicts not only everything you’ll hear down at your local PetSmart store (or Petco, whatever), but also what several mainstream books recently published in wide release have to say about canine and feline diets. Believe me, though – I’m right and they’re wrong.

    Today, there’s even more proof of this. More information has surfaced about exactly WHY our precious pets are dying. And as usual when it comes to nutrition – human or animal – one thing lies at the root of all the evil…

    Vegetarianism

    In case you haven’t heard, the U.S. FDA is all but certain the source of the contamination that’s sickening and killing our cats and dogs is melamine, a toxic chemical used in the manufacture of plastics, pesticides, and as a fertilizer. Melamine is high in nitrogen. Now stay with me here, this last little factoid is the heart of this whole insidious issue…

    Though deemed safe in low concentrations – like what might be found in vegetables grown in fields fertilized or insect-controlled with melamine – direct ingestion of the substance can be deadly. Yet according to the FDA, melamine poisoning is likely what’s sickening and killing so many of our pets nowadays. This kind of contamination would be VERY DIFFICULT without somebody adding melamine directly to pet foods, or to their ingredients.

    Why would anyone do this?

    Despite the fact that it’s horrible for pets, most brands of modern pet foods – especially the dry varieties – are made almost entirely of vegetable ingredients. There are several reasons for this, foremost among them being cost. It’s far cheaper to make pet foods from soy this and wheat gluten that than it is to use real meats (which is impossible in the dry foods anyway)…

    But since the average pet owner is at least aware of the fact that animals, like people, need PROTEIN to survive, pet food makers are big on adding things to their food to boost the appearance of nutrition. And in this case, that “additive” was very likely poisonous melamine.

    Remember I said that nitrogen was the key here? According to a recent USA Today article, the agricultural industry typically gauges a raw grain’s protein content by measuring its nitrogen content. Nitrogen levels generally correspond quite closely with protein levels…

    Are you starting to see how this shakes out?

    That’s right. The FDA and other groups strongly suspect that nitrogen-rich melamine fertilizer was added in raw form to large quantities of ALREADY HARVESTED wheat and rice earmarked for pet foods in order to create the illusion that these worthless grains were higher in protein than they actually are. And please note this is vegetable protein, not animal protein which is what your pets require.

    But this is only part of the story.

    To sell more pet food, pet owners were deceived into believing the dry vegetable junk food they’re feeding their cats and dogs is protein-rich and good for them (it’s actually horrible for them, melamine-laced or not). I have now brought you up to speed on the sordid saga behind the plight of pets here in the U.S. – at least those whose owners don’t know to ignore the advice of vets and pet-store employees when it comes to your cats’ and dogs’ diets. (Yes, tragically, most of the vets have gone on the vegetarian bandwagon and many sell this trash food from their offices – “Doctor-recommended,” you know.) As I’ve said repeatedly, the ONLY foods your little kittens and pups of all breeds and ages should be eating are raw meats and raw eggs, topped with a few fresh-cut vegetables.

    However, this isn’t common knowledge to pet owners because of a vast vegetarian conspiracy (more on this later).

    At the beginning of this article, I pointed the finger of blame for this pet-food conspiracy – and all its casualties – squarely at vegetarianism. In case you haven’t put the big picture together, let me sum it up for you…

    Not entirely surprisingly, the pet industry in this country has been infiltrated and taken over by a branch of the animal rights crowd. Not the most militant sliver, mind you. They believe that animal ownership by humans is as evil as animal slaughter for consumption. But these wackos are just a small percentage of the animal rights movement.

    A great many mainstream “animal people” are enthusiastic pet owners who believe in bonding with and loving animals. Unfortunately, a lot of them don’t believe in eating animals, or even allowing their animals to eat animals – even though it’s exactly what their cats and dogs need to be healthy. A lot of them are vegetarians, and by default, their pets are, too. But not all of them are. Plenty of dog and cat owners are meat-eaters, but they still want to buy what’s best for their pets.

    So they buy their pet-food on the advice of the “experts” at the local Petco or PetSmart, despite the fact that these stores are largely staffed by young, idealistic folks – many of whom buy into the vegetarian dogma hook, line and sinker. The whole thing combines to become a snowball effect.

    Pet owners and buyers of all types get care and feeding advice from misguided people who are convinced that eating meat is cruelty to animals. This creates more demand for meatless pet-food – which spurs pet-food makers to buy ever-larger quantities of the cheapest vegetable ingredients that are still high in protein (even if they’ve been spiked with poisonous additives and it is the wrong type of protein for cats and dogs in the first place). Naturally, the cheapest of these are outside the U.S. And as such, they’re low-quality, un-regulated, and more likely to be hazardous.

    Bottom line: If vegetarian dogma did not exist, pet owners, pet-store staffers, and veterinarians would wake up and take notice of what most animals eat naturally – each other. They’d also start allowing this knowledge to guide their dietary advice to pet owners, instead of allowing their own ignorance and prejudices to spur the death and sickening of countless numbers of the very pets they purport to be advocates of.

    That’s the very definition of tragic irony, isn’t it?

    May 4, 2007

    Source: William Campbell Douglass II, MD , is editor of The Douglass Report .

  2. Elena Lemmo says:

    Wow,good to know I’m the source of all evil in the world.This site has been about HELPING other pet parents find non melamine contaminated foods.
    ITCHMO admin,there are a number of vegetarians on this site who are trying very hard to find safe foods, the above comment helps no one and I certainly view it as Hate speech.

  3. Steve says:

    Good ol’ Doc Douglas,

    I heard him on the radio on coast2coast in 02. He was discussing medicinal uses for tobacco and saying that smoking is not as bad as it is made out to be. He used to smoke cigarettes and now smokes cigars.

  4. Rick says:

    Elena Lemmo Says: “the above comment helps no one”–I agree. If you notice, this in part comes from lew rockwell’s website –so it’s not surprising. And the whole blaming vegetarianism thing is TOTAL crap! What this is all about is GREED!!! It’s funny how certain people take advantage of a tragic situation–the whole pet food issue–to attack a certain group of people–vegetarians–who have NOTHING whatsoever to do with it. This is a politically motivated attack. The real culprit here is plain and simple GREED. Let me ask you, Henry Barth, do you thing the people in China who created, sold, and spiked the pet food are vegetarians? Do you think the CEOs of all of these pet food suppliers are vegetarians? These other proteins are being used because they are cheaper than meat. Even the vegetarians here know that animals eat meat!! There are MANY , MANY vegetarians who have their pets on the RAW diet—which means RAW MEAT!!!!!

  5. kellkell says:

    Is that article serious? The workers at Petco and Petsmart are idealistic folks who buy into vegetarianism? Eh? What? A dry food is going to need carbs of some kind in order to extrude the food but by no means does this mean the food is vegetarian.
    “Believe me, though – I’m right and they’re wrong.”
    Thanks for clearing that up, perhaps I’d be more likely to believe you if it wasn’t you saying you were right.
    Wow, just wow! As if this mess wasn’t bad enough we have some wacko writing about how idealistic the young-ins who work at Petco and Petsmart are.

  6. Steve says:

    Don’t worry folks! All the Pet Food Brands who got caught up in this fiasco have stopped using Menu Foods. Have stopped buying Chinese ingredients. And are now using only pure wholesome USA ingredients. Inspected not once, not twice, but three times for integrity.

    60 million cans and bags to hit market this month will be Safe!

  7. Steve says:

    Trust Us!!

  8. kellkell says:

    Steve you should really make the sarcasm clear, some people might actually think they are going to be in the clear.

  9. Amy says:

    Well if that’s his argument then it’s the patients’ fault that we’re in the middle of a national health care crisis… or maybe it’s those evil vegetarians??? Baaaad vegetarians! I’m kidding… what a whack-job! Honey, this pet food trouble, along with so many other things that are wrong in the world today, all goes back to the almighty dollar.

  10. Elena Lemmo says:

    Just looked at my post again,I wasn’t trying to start a fight,I was just trying to see if I could report this to ITCHMO admin.Don’t want anyone to think I was trying to fake one of the bold typeface comments Itchmo owner sometimes adds.And as much as it grosses me out to have meat in the house,I know my cats are obligate carnivores and are fed accordingly.The people commenting and reading this site are all united in this never ending nightmare and we should behave ourselves;there are plenty of other places on the net to go if you want to argue and be hateful.

  11. kellkell says:

    Elena,
    I don’t think anyone is arguing or being hateful. I think we made it clear that we don’t agree with the viewpoint of the article but no one was nasty and no one attacked the poster. While I agree that we need to be civil, I don’t think in this case we weren’t being civil. Perhaps I am just misunderstanding you?

  12. Elena Lemmo says:

    To : Kellkell
    I was referring to the original poster and some other comments I’ve seen around the site over the last almost 3 months of this mass pet poisoning.Sorry,it’s easy to be misunderstood online,which is why I seldom post.

  13. Amy says:

    Okay, I actually did call the author of the original post a whack job which goes against my respect everyone’s opinion post from last night… sorry about that but blaming vegetarians for this crisis just seems so out of left field that it left me a little shocked. Personally, I think the guys who put the melamine in the gluten would probably grind up their grandmas and feed it to pets if they thought they could make a buck.

  14. Debbie4747 says:

    Amy, I’m with you. Vegetarians? Huh? I don’t eat meat, don’t like my cats eating meat, but they are meat eaters. I sometimes buy and cook meat from them as a treat, since there are no such table scraps from me. I’ve been, and still am feeding Purina and 9 Lines (terrified of swtiching, since the foods I’m using have been okay). Even before this fiasco, I’ve been tempted to sometimes feed at least my inside cats better quality like IAMs or whatever, but form other boards, I’ve seen people that do have just as many health problems with their cats if not more. As we know now, our presumed better quality foods aren’t all as good as we once thought.
    But to blame this on vegetarians? It’s not our fault the Chine got super greedy and started spiking the melamine it seems have already been in the foods. It’s not our fault that the pet food companies, with all their warm and cozy pics and facts about pet care and how dedicated they are to animals didn’t give a rats *ss when their products turned up sour.

    The only irony here is that people like him are allowed to voet and even voice an opinion or two.

  15. Elena Lemmo says:

    Amy,
    Sorry,didn’t mean to come across as criticizing you (or kellkell).I really wasn’t saying anyone here (other than the person who felt the need to post that anti-veg rant) was being hateful.I appreciate hearing that others were offended by this nonsense,I just felt this article ran contrary to what most of us see this site as.I’ve been checking this wonderful site a good 3 times a day and it saddens me when people argue nastily or insult each other over raw vs cooked or are grains good or bad,etc,plenty of time for that later when our food is melamine/poison free.(PLEASE let that time come soon!!) We are all trying very hard to do right by our furry kids .I have no problem directing our anger at the true villains in all this (Venting is probably the only thing keeping our heads from exploding at thispoint),but we pet parents need to stick together.

  16. 4lgdfriend says:

    I don’t know the source of the article in question. But there ARE many reliable sources that state the facts: Cats are obligate carnivores. Dogs are omnivorous. Vegetarian is not species appropriate food for either.
    I think the points (grain in food leads to more cheap grain “protein”-if you can even call it that- in food) is well made. But the fact is these animals are NOT vegetarian and vegetarian food is not species appropriate for them, regardless if it offends the petowners delicate sensibilities.

  17. Deanna says:

    One Question for Dr. Douglas!!!

    First of all. I’d just like to say that blaming “vegetarians” for this current situation is nothing but preposterous!!!

    If you prefer to feed your pets (should you have any) the diet that you have suggested we ALL do…is your prerogative. But my question to you is
    this…..What happens when all of a sudden pets become ill from the RAW diet because of animal feed that they are being given is tainted…..with whatever?

    The meat industry is one of the dirtiest and dishonest of them all….sorry if I have offended anyone with that remark…but I know it to be true.

    Find organic meats I’m sure will be your response to my question. But given the real “eye-opening” that we have all had lately regarding chickens, pork etc…..oh, and now a report of Mad Cow disease in Canada,
    how can you possibly say that you know for a fact….that you are right?

    Maybe there wouldn’t be as many “vegetarians” as there is today….if the meat industry was as trustworthy to begin with!

    Just reading the many reports that I do regarding the drugs and steroids (not to mention drugs for medicinal purposes) that are pumped into livestock during their short lives……convinces me even more, just how arrogant your views are….in my opinion of course!

    I hope you read my post as I would love to hear a response to it from you!

    Deanna

  18. Deanna says:

    In my last post I forgot to add……that btw, my entire family eat meats and poultry as well as my dogs, whom I will not but commercial for again any time soon.

    Dr. Douglas’s article just made my hair stand on end when blaming vegetarians!

    There’s enough pain and guilt going around without having being told that vegetarians have caused these deaths and sicknesses…

    I’m not a vegetarian as I said before…..but I just think that to blame someone during this very tragic time is not only CRUEL, but it lacks empathy for those who are struggling through this.

    Best wishes to all…..

  19. kellkell says:

    4lgdfriend
    Not a single person responding to that article disagrees that pets aren’t vegetarians, in fact from what I’ve read 2 vegetarians agreed even though they themselves don’t eat meat. What we are disagreeing with is that the article says that vegetarians are to blame for this mess, like there is a big vegetarian conspiracy when the bottom line is greed.
    None of us is trying to force a vegetarian diet as this article seems to be implying and I certainly hope you aren’t thinking we are. I believe for the most part people on this board (those that aren’t doing raw) are doing their best to find a good (and hopefully honest) dry food with meat proteins in it, to feed their pets. You obviously have your opinions about dry vs raw, but some people choose to go the dry route and as long as the food has meat proteins we need to be open to these people as well.
    I’m not sure if you meant this statement “offends the petowners delicate sensibilities” to sound as nasty as it did, and trust me, I am neither delicate or sensitive, because as I said before, NONE of us in this thread have said we are trying to make our pets vegetarians. So please direct those sorts of statements at the people who poisoned our pets and try to help educate people about a good diet (even if that has to include dry kibble).
    We need to concentrate the negative where it belongs.

  20. kellkell says:

    why the heck are my comments going into moderation?

  21. kellkell says:

    4lgdfriend
    Not a single person responding to that article disagrees that pets aren’t vegetarians, in fact from what I’ve read 2 vegetarians agreed even though they themselves don’t eat meat. What we are disagreeing with is that the article says that vegetarians are to blame for this mess, like there is a big vegetarian conspiracy when the bottom line is greed.
    None of us is trying to force a vegetarian diet as this article seems to be implying and I certainly hope you aren’t thinking we are. I believe for the most part people on this board (those that aren’t doing raw) are doing their best to find a good (and hopefully honest) dry food with meat proteins in it, to feed their pets. You obviously have your opinions about dry vs raw, but some people choose to go the dry route and as long as the food has meat proteins we need to be open to these people as well.
    I’m not sure if you meant this statement
    offends the petowners delicate sensibilities
    to sound as nasty as it did, and trust me, I am neither delicate or sensitive, because as I said before, NONE of us in this thread have said we are trying to make our pets vegetarians. So please direct those sorts of statements at the people who poisoned our pets and try to help educate people about a good diet (even if that has to include dry kibble).
    We need to concentrate the negative where it belongs.

  22. Monika says:

    TERIC? Anyone see any posts? How odd that this frequent poster just stopped posting - especially with the promise of test results on Felidae and Kumpikat. I hope she/he is okay.

  23. Carol says:

    I agree with Elean that this site is about us pet parents affected by this horrific situation and have seen since my short time logged here -about a week now- that there does seem to be some posters that just want to incite an argument or have nothing to bring to the table but criticism of us. I come to this place as for the last 10 weeks I have found few people in my life that can truly undersytand what I’m going through. I check this site off and on every day (especially when I’m feeling out of control) To know I’m not in this alone has been comforting. The effect that this tragedy has had on my whole life, as it’s not just an emotional but also a financial nightmare, is undescribable and I thank those of you that have postings to help and support me and all the other “me”s” reading this. In addition to help me I have been talking to everyone I meet especially shopping to help educate people who think if it doesn’t say made by MF on lable, they’re okay! Without computer access, MANY people still don’t know the extent of this!
    Sorry to vent…..Carol

  24. Issy says:

    Does anyone know what exactly cross contamination means in the case of thousands of recalled pet food - we aren’t just talking about dirty equipment here?

  25. Elaine says:

    I think we needn’t be so thin-skinned about this–everyone has a right to his/her opinion.

    A free country requires a free exchange of ideas.

  26. LovingMyPets says:

    Elaine Says:
    May 4th, 2007 at 12:30 pm

    “I think we needn’t be so thin-skinned about this–everyone has a right to his/her opinion.

    A free country requires a free exchange of ideas.”

    BRAVO! Elaine . . . thanks for posting that. I was thinking the same thing.

  27. Deanna says:

    Elaine…

    You are right in some aspects…..but I think there’a difference between ideas and accusations.

    Now, I’m not here to argue or fight etc….in fact, I rarely post here (I do read a lot though)…..but when I seen that first post, I was shocked that anyone could be so callous in their accusations!

    I tried to put myself in the position of a vegetarian who has just lost a pet to a petfood that she/he had trusted……it’s just cruel!

    Henry Barth may have shown more diplomacy by…for instance…..posting a link to this story….so those WANTING to see it could go there…instead of
    starting off this thread in such a way.

    In a Free country, as you say,……we also have choice.

    I just feel bad for the people who it may make feel worse than they allready do…that’s all.

  28. 4lgdfriend says:

    wow, sensibilities are delicate. Now see, I am a quasi vegetarian, and I did not take offense at the nuttier aspects of that article, which are, well, nutty ;-). But the point on grains sold as “protein” for beings that don’t eat grain are still valid.

    I have fed canned, currently feed dry (and right now glad i do) because, and only because, I have a rescue cat that does not recognize ‘real’ food-a kibblehead. I have fed raw, although it is a little gross, and would feed it now if this little guy would eat it. Although it grosses me out, i feel good knowing I am feeding him species appropriate (raw) food of the highest quality i can provide. No judgement was implied on what anyone previously, currently, or optimally wishes to feed.

    the sensibilities I was referring to were my own!! Get it??????

    Now go home, make chamomile tea and take a long nap.

    I’ll cover for you venting my ire on the petfood companies ;-)

  29. Debbie4747 says:

    Deanna, I agree. We do have free speech, but that post was more of an accusation. I do believe that cats and dogs should be eating meat, and not be turned into vegetarians. I believe most do. There may be a few that want their pets to eat as they do, but that doesn’t make them conspiritors to poison our pets foods.
    If the good doctor had been reading posts here and some of the other info around he’d see where it was 1, the Chinese spiking the glutets, etc with melamine and who knows what else, 2. the way the pet food companies dragged their butts on recalling affected products, 3. fa’s inept ability to deal with this and name the companies they know are not recalling when they should, 4. the rest of the freak show in Washington (save a handful of senators and other politicians that are working on this) that is in favor of big corporate America.

    Oddly, if the chicken, pork and other animals are being fed grains with melamine and arsenic, we may have to turn our pets into vegetarians after all.

    And one more thing, the good doctor didn’t really give us any proof that it’s the Vegetarians that caused this mess. Do we call it Veggie-gate?

  30. Jenna says:

    So, I just wanted to post this so others knew about it. Nutro’s March 30 press release contained these words:
    * Nutro’s dry pet foods do NOT contain wheat gluten.
    * Nutro’s dry pet foods do NOT contain imported grains.
    * Nutro’s dry pet foods are NOT produced by Menu Foods.
    * NONE of Nutro’s dry pet foods are subject to the Menu Foods recall.
    * Pet owners should feel safe and confident feeding Nutro dry pet foods to their pets.
    “Even prior to this extremely disturbing incident at Menu Foods, our dry dog and cat foods were not produced using wheat gluten,” said Dave Kravis President and CEO of Nutro Products. “We know that there is confusion among consumers about what foods are safe to feed their pets right now. We can categorically say that Nutro’s dry pet foods do not contain the ingredient wheat gluten or any imported grains, they are unaffected by the Menu Foods recall, and it is absolutely safe to continue feeding these products to your pets.”

    And now the same press release on their website says this:
    * Nutro’s dry pet foods do NOT contain wheat gluten.
    * Nutro’s dry pet foods are NOT produced by Menu Foods.
    * NONE of Nutro’s dry pet foods are subject to the Menu Foods recall.
    * Pet owners should feel safe and confident feeding Nutro dry pet foods to their pets.
    “Even prior to this extremely disturbing incident at Menu Foods, our dry dog and cat foods were not produced using wheat gluten,” said Dave Kravis President and CEO of Nutro Products. “We know that there is confusion among consumers about what foods are safe to feed their pets right now. We can categorically say that Nutro’s dry pet foods do not contain the ingredient wheat gluten, they are unaffected by the Menu Foods recall, and it is absolutely safe to continue feeding these products to your pets.”

    They completely removed the mention of no imported grains so obviously they have been using/are using imported grains even in their dry foods.

    That’s all, other than to thank the heavens for itchmo.com so that I can stay abreast of the latest news.

    Thanks!
    -Jenna

  31. Deanna says:

    Jenna……

    Very interesting! These companies are constantly changing their lists of ingredients….I guess we have to wait till the next BIG discovery in this investigation for the next change….what’d ya’ think!!!

    Debbie4747….

    Veggie-Gate?….lol! ……My dogs would never forgive me for skipping on the meat!!!…I have a great butcher accross the street that I’ve known for 11 yrs….and he loves my babies…GIVES them free soup-bones all the time. I get my poultry somewhere else…….But turn my dogs into vegetarians?……mind you, they love raw carrots and we share an apple or banana here and there!

    4lgdfriend….

    I hate Chamomile tea!!!…..lol!…..I’ll settle for a nice cold beer right about now though!!

  32. susanUnPC says:

    Re Henry Barth’s post, please don’t post entire articles. Just give us a paragraph or two, and a link. Besides making the post very long, it also might anger the original authors, all of whom want people to come to THEIR sites. At Daily Kos, people are banned permanently for posting full articles and news stories because of copyright concerns. Whether or not you agree about the copyright law, it is true that everyone who writes an article wants people to come to their site, and deserves that visit at the least after working on an article.

  33. 4lgddfriend says:

    Jenna re NUTRO: They completely removed the mention of no imported grains so obviously they have been using/are using imported grains even in their dry foods.
    Slimy jerks. Corn Gluten Meal. spelled G L U T E N.

    Sorry, but I believe the poison is in there…and sooner or later we’re going to find that out. My cat ate for approx 2 days from a new bag and developed the symptoms even though the nutro was only~20% of his food.
    SLIMY JERKS. Sooner or later it’s going to come out. And in the meantime, they have completely lost all consumer confidence.

    Don’t believe them. Please. Get something else.

  34. Elena Lemmo says:

    Since we’re practicing free speech,here’s a link supporting COOL.
    Quote from Organic Consumer :”Federal farm policy theoretically requires Country of Origin Labeling for food. Reacting to polls indicating that 80% of American consumers want to know where their food is coming from, Congress incorporated COOL into the 2002 Farm Bill. COOL was supposed to go into effect in September 2004. Unfortunately, corporate agribusiness, Wal-Mart, and the supermarket chains bribed an ethically-impaired Congress with millions of dollars to block implementation of COOL labels. As a result, Americans are buying billions of dollars of imported foods without knowing it. In order to promote health and sustainability, and to save North American family farms, we need to restore our right to know where our food is coming from. Tell Congress we want Country of Origin Labels for both conventional and organic food, and we want it now.”
    http://www.democracyinaction.o....._KEY=11257
    Feel free to also check out the story where the FDA approves rice made with HUMAN genes.
    PS I’m hardly “sensitive” or thin skinned,just acknowledging the importance this site to me the last 3 months.Had I seen this crap posted on another site at a time when my head didn’t feel like it was going to explode any minute,I simply would have given a mental “Frell you,too” and moved on.

  35. 4lgdfriend says:

    Excellent Elena. Thanks for that.

  36. susanUnPC says:

    Elena, that’s great info. I think it was Steve who mentioned COOL a couple weeks ago. We need to lobby Congress to get that law passed — it wasn’t possible when the GOP controlled Congress and let big food lobbyists keep the labels from being enacted. Maybe now?

  37. susanUnPC says:

    Please visit this diary, which is about COOL, and by a commissioner who is trying to enact COOL:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/4/173958/5297

    You need to register at Daily Kos to add a comment or question, but it’s very easy to do so.

  38. Sandy says:

    Hey all I spoke with a lady at

    http://www.naturapet.com/about......asp?id=22

    They put this up today…as we call wrote and called asking for proof in writing…we have it from Ca Natural….Innova and Evo these are some of their products see the site.


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