Comments on: Recall Update: Friday http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618 Essential news for cats, dogs and pet owners. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:16:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Sandy http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14587 Sandy Fri, 04 May 2007 22:49:06 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14587 Hey all I spoke with a lady at http://www.naturapet.com/about-natura/news.asp?id=22 They put this up today...as we call wrote and called asking for proof in writing...we have it from Ca Natural....Innova and Evo these are some of their products see the site. Hey all I spoke with a lady at

http://www.naturapet.com/about......asp?id=22

They put this up today…as we call wrote and called asking for proof in writing…we have it from Ca Natural….Innova and Evo these are some of their products see the site.

]]> By: susanUnPC http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14564 susanUnPC Fri, 04 May 2007 22:07:33 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14564 Please visit this diary, which is about COOL, and by a commissioner who is trying to enact COOL: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/4/173958/5297 You need to register at Daily Kos to add a comment or question, but it's very easy to do so. Please visit this diary, which is about COOL, and by a commissioner who is trying to enact COOL:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/4/173958/5297

You need to register at Daily Kos to add a comment or question, but it’s very easy to do so.

]]> By: susanUnPC http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14558 susanUnPC Fri, 04 May 2007 21:57:57 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14558 Elena, that's great info. I think it was Steve who mentioned COOL a couple weeks ago. We need to lobby Congress to get that law passed -- it wasn't possible when the GOP controlled Congress and let big food lobbyists keep the labels from being enacted. Maybe now? Elena, that’s great info. I think it was Steve who mentioned COOL a couple weeks ago. We need to lobby Congress to get that law passed — it wasn’t possible when the GOP controlled Congress and let big food lobbyists keep the labels from being enacted. Maybe now?

]]> By: 4lgdfriend http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14521 4lgdfriend Fri, 04 May 2007 20:56:40 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14521 Excellent Elena. Thanks for that. Excellent Elena. Thanks for that.

]]> By: Elena Lemmo http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14495 Elena Lemmo Fri, 04 May 2007 20:28:39 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14495 Since we're practicing free speech,here's a link supporting COOL. Quote from Organic Consumer :"Federal farm policy theoretically requires Country of Origin Labeling for food. Reacting to polls indicating that 80% of American consumers want to know where their food is coming from, Congress incorporated COOL into the 2002 Farm Bill. COOL was supposed to go into effect in September 2004. Unfortunately, corporate agribusiness, Wal-Mart, and the supermarket chains bribed an ethically-impaired Congress with millions of dollars to block implementation of COOL labels. As a result, Americans are buying billions of dollars of imported foods without knowing it. In order to promote health and sustainability, and to save North American family farms, we need to restore our right to know where our food is coming from. Tell Congress we want Country of Origin Labels for both conventional and organic food, and we want it now." http://www.democracyinaction.org/dia/organizationsORG/oca/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=11257 Feel free to also check out the story where the FDA approves rice made with HUMAN genes. PS I'm hardly "sensitive" or thin skinned,just acknowledging the importance this site to me the last 3 months.Had I seen this crap posted on another site at a time when my head didn't feel like it was going to explode any minute,I simply would have given a mental "Frell you,too" and moved on. Since we’re practicing free speech,here’s a link supporting COOL.
Quote from Organic Consumer :”Federal farm policy theoretically requires Country of Origin Labeling for food. Reacting to polls indicating that 80% of American consumers want to know where their food is coming from, Congress incorporated COOL into the 2002 Farm Bill. COOL was supposed to go into effect in September 2004. Unfortunately, corporate agribusiness, Wal-Mart, and the supermarket chains bribed an ethically-impaired Congress with millions of dollars to block implementation of COOL labels. As a result, Americans are buying billions of dollars of imported foods without knowing it. In order to promote health and sustainability, and to save North American family farms, we need to restore our right to know where our food is coming from. Tell Congress we want Country of Origin Labels for both conventional and organic food, and we want it now.”
http://www.democracyinaction.o....._KEY=11257
Feel free to also check out the story where the FDA approves rice made with HUMAN genes.
PS I’m hardly “sensitive” or thin skinned,just acknowledging the importance this site to me the last 3 months.Had I seen this crap posted on another site at a time when my head didn’t feel like it was going to explode any minute,I simply would have given a mental “Frell you,too” and moved on.

]]> By: 4lgddfriend http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14479 4lgddfriend Fri, 04 May 2007 20:04:21 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14479 Jenna re NUTRO: They completely removed the mention of no imported grains so obviously they have been using/are using imported grains even in their dry foods. Slimy jerks. Corn Gluten Meal. spelled G L U T E N. Sorry, but I believe the poison is in there...and sooner or later we're going to find that out. My cat ate for approx 2 days from a new bag and developed the symptoms even though the nutro was only~20% of his food. SLIMY JERKS. Sooner or later it's going to come out. And in the meantime, they have completely lost all consumer confidence. Don't believe them. Please. Get something else. Jenna re NUTRO: They completely removed the mention of no imported grains so obviously they have been using/are using imported grains even in their dry foods.
Slimy jerks. Corn Gluten Meal. spelled G L U T E N.

Sorry, but I believe the poison is in there…and sooner or later we’re going to find that out. My cat ate for approx 2 days from a new bag and developed the symptoms even though the nutro was only~20% of his food.
SLIMY JERKS. Sooner or later it’s going to come out. And in the meantime, they have completely lost all consumer confidence.

Don’t believe them. Please. Get something else.

]]> By: susanUnPC http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14451 susanUnPC Fri, 04 May 2007 19:36:57 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14451 Re Henry Barth's post, please don't post entire articles. Just give us a paragraph or two, and a link. Besides making the post very long, it also might anger the original authors, all of whom want people to come to THEIR sites. At Daily Kos, people are banned permanently for posting full articles and news stories because of copyright concerns. Whether or not you agree about the copyright law, it is true that everyone who writes an article wants people to come to their site, and deserves that visit at the least after working on an article. Re Henry Barth’s post, please don’t post entire articles. Just give us a paragraph or two, and a link. Besides making the post very long, it also might anger the original authors, all of whom want people to come to THEIR sites. At Daily Kos, people are banned permanently for posting full articles and news stories because of copyright concerns. Whether or not you agree about the copyright law, it is true that everyone who writes an article wants people to come to their site, and deserves that visit at the least after working on an article.

]]> By: Deanna http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14412 Deanna Fri, 04 May 2007 18:55:04 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14412 Jenna...... Very interesting! These companies are constantly changing their lists of ingredients....I guess we have to wait till the next BIG discovery in this investigation for the next change....what'd ya' think!!! Debbie4747.... Veggie-Gate?....lol! ......My dogs would never forgive me for skipping on the meat!!!...I have a great butcher accross the street that I've known for 11 yrs....and he loves my babies...GIVES them free soup-bones all the time. I get my poultry somewhere else.......But turn my dogs into vegetarians?......mind you, they love raw carrots and we share an apple or banana here and there! 4lgdfriend.... I hate Chamomile tea!!!.....lol!.....I'll settle for a nice cold beer right about now though!! Jenna……

Very interesting! These companies are constantly changing their lists of ingredients….I guess we have to wait till the next BIG discovery in this investigation for the next change….what’d ya’ think!!!

Debbie4747….

Veggie-Gate?….lol! ……My dogs would never forgive me for skipping on the meat!!!…I have a great butcher accross the street that I’ve known for 11 yrs….and he loves my babies…GIVES them free soup-bones all the time. I get my poultry somewhere else…….But turn my dogs into vegetarians?……mind you, they love raw carrots and we share an apple or banana here and there!

4lgdfriend….

I hate Chamomile tea!!!…..lol!…..I’ll settle for a nice cold beer right about now though!!

]]> By: Jenna http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14337 Jenna Fri, 04 May 2007 17:50:58 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14337 So, I just wanted to post this so others knew about it. Nutro's March 30 press release contained these words: * Nutro's dry pet foods do NOT contain wheat gluten. * Nutro's dry pet foods do NOT contain imported grains. * Nutro's dry pet foods are NOT produced by Menu Foods. * NONE of Nutro's dry pet foods are subject to the Menu Foods recall. * Pet owners should feel safe and confident feeding Nutro dry pet foods to their pets. "Even prior to this extremely disturbing incident at Menu Foods, our dry dog and cat foods were not produced using wheat gluten," said Dave Kravis President and CEO of Nutro Products. "We know that there is confusion among consumers about what foods are safe to feed their pets right now. We can categorically say that Nutro's dry pet foods do not contain the ingredient wheat gluten or any imported grains, they are unaffected by the Menu Foods recall, and it is absolutely safe to continue feeding these products to your pets." And now the same press release on their website says this: * Nutro's dry pet foods do NOT contain wheat gluten. * Nutro's dry pet foods are NOT produced by Menu Foods. * NONE of Nutro's dry pet foods are subject to the Menu Foods recall. * Pet owners should feel safe and confident feeding Nutro dry pet foods to their pets. “Even prior to this extremely disturbing incident at Menu Foods, our dry dog and cat foods were not produced using wheat gluten,” said Dave Kravis President and CEO of Nutro Products. “We know that there is confusion among consumers about what foods are safe to feed their pets right now. We can categorically say that Nutro's dry pet foods do not contain the ingredient wheat gluten, they are unaffected by the Menu Foods recall, and it is absolutely safe to continue feeding these products to your pets.” They completely removed the mention of no imported grains so obviously they have been using/are using imported grains even in their dry foods. That's all, other than to thank the heavens for itchmo.com so that I can stay abreast of the latest news. Thanks! -Jenna So, I just wanted to post this so others knew about it. Nutro’s March 30 press release contained these words:
* Nutro’s dry pet foods do NOT contain wheat gluten.
* Nutro’s dry pet foods do NOT contain imported grains.
* Nutro’s dry pet foods are NOT produced by Menu Foods.
* NONE of Nutro’s dry pet foods are subject to the Menu Foods recall.
* Pet owners should feel safe and confident feeding Nutro dry pet foods to their pets.
“Even prior to this extremely disturbing incident at Menu Foods, our dry dog and cat foods were not produced using wheat gluten,” said Dave Kravis President and CEO of Nutro Products. “We know that there is confusion among consumers about what foods are safe to feed their pets right now. We can categorically say that Nutro’s dry pet foods do not contain the ingredient wheat gluten or any imported grains, they are unaffected by the Menu Foods recall, and it is absolutely safe to continue feeding these products to your pets.”

And now the same press release on their website says this:
* Nutro’s dry pet foods do NOT contain wheat gluten.
* Nutro’s dry pet foods are NOT produced by Menu Foods.
* NONE of Nutro’s dry pet foods are subject to the Menu Foods recall.
* Pet owners should feel safe and confident feeding Nutro dry pet foods to their pets.
“Even prior to this extremely disturbing incident at Menu Foods, our dry dog and cat foods were not produced using wheat gluten,” said Dave Kravis President and CEO of Nutro Products. “We know that there is confusion among consumers about what foods are safe to feed their pets right now. We can categorically say that Nutro’s dry pet foods do not contain the ingredient wheat gluten, they are unaffected by the Menu Foods recall, and it is absolutely safe to continue feeding these products to your pets.”

They completely removed the mention of no imported grains so obviously they have been using/are using imported grains even in their dry foods.

That’s all, other than to thank the heavens for itchmo.com so that I can stay abreast of the latest news.

Thanks!
-Jenna

]]> By: Debbie4747 http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14331 Debbie4747 Fri, 04 May 2007 17:45:30 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14331 Deanna, I agree. We do have free speech, but that post was more of an accusation. I do believe that cats and dogs should be eating meat, and not be turned into vegetarians. I believe most do. There may be a few that want their pets to eat as they do, but that doesn't make them conspiritors to poison our pets foods. If the good doctor had been reading posts here and some of the other info around he'd see where it was 1, the Chinese spiking the glutets, etc with melamine and who knows what else, 2. the way the pet food companies dragged their butts on recalling affected products, 3. fa's inept ability to deal with this and name the companies they know are not recalling when they should, 4. the rest of the freak show in Washington (save a handful of senators and other politicians that are working on this) that is in favor of big corporate America. Oddly, if the chicken, pork and other animals are being fed grains with melamine and arsenic, we may have to turn our pets into vegetarians after all. And one more thing, the good doctor didn't really give us any proof that it's the Vegetarians that caused this mess. Do we call it Veggie-gate? Deanna, I agree. We do have free speech, but that post was more of an accusation. I do believe that cats and dogs should be eating meat, and not be turned into vegetarians. I believe most do. There may be a few that want their pets to eat as they do, but that doesn’t make them conspiritors to poison our pets foods.
If the good doctor had been reading posts here and some of the other info around he’d see where it was 1, the Chinese spiking the glutets, etc with melamine and who knows what else, 2. the way the pet food companies dragged their butts on recalling affected products, 3. fa’s inept ability to deal with this and name the companies they know are not recalling when they should, 4. the rest of the freak show in Washington (save a handful of senators and other politicians that are working on this) that is in favor of big corporate America.

Oddly, if the chicken, pork and other animals are being fed grains with melamine and arsenic, we may have to turn our pets into vegetarians after all.

And one more thing, the good doctor didn’t really give us any proof that it’s the Vegetarians that caused this mess. Do we call it Veggie-gate?

]]> By: 4lgdfriend http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14326 4lgdfriend Fri, 04 May 2007 17:42:12 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14326 wow, sensibilities are delicate. Now see, I am a quasi vegetarian, and I did not take offense at the nuttier aspects of that article, which are, well, nutty ;-). But the point on grains sold as "protein" for beings that don't eat grain are still valid. I have fed canned, currently feed dry (and right now glad i do) because, and only because, I have a rescue cat that does not recognize 'real' food-a kibblehead. I have fed raw, although it is a little gross, and would feed it now if this little guy would eat it. Although it grosses me out, i feel good knowing I am feeding him species appropriate (raw) food of the highest quality i can provide. No judgement was implied on what anyone previously, currently, or optimally wishes to feed. the sensibilities I was referring to were my own!! Get it?????? Now go home, make chamomile tea and take a long nap. I'll cover for you venting my ire on the petfood companies ;-) wow, sensibilities are delicate. Now see, I am a quasi vegetarian, and I did not take offense at the nuttier aspects of that article, which are, well, nutty ;-). But the point on grains sold as “protein” for beings that don’t eat grain are still valid.

I have fed canned, currently feed dry (and right now glad i do) because, and only because, I have a rescue cat that does not recognize ‘real’ food-a kibblehead. I have fed raw, although it is a little gross, and would feed it now if this little guy would eat it. Although it grosses me out, i feel good knowing I am feeding him species appropriate (raw) food of the highest quality i can provide. No judgement was implied on what anyone previously, currently, or optimally wishes to feed.

the sensibilities I was referring to were my own!! Get it??????

Now go home, make chamomile tea and take a long nap.

I’ll cover for you venting my ire on the petfood companies ;-)

]]> By: Deanna http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14310 Deanna Fri, 04 May 2007 17:24:54 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14310 Elaine... You are right in some aspects.....but I think there'a difference between ideas and accusations. Now, I'm not here to argue or fight etc....in fact, I rarely post here (I do read a lot though).....but when I seen that first post, I was shocked that anyone could be so callous in their accusations! I tried to put myself in the position of a vegetarian who has just lost a pet to a petfood that she/he had trusted......it's just cruel! Henry Barth may have shown more diplomacy by...for instance.....posting a link to this story....so those WANTING to see it could go there...instead of starting off this thread in such a way. In a Free country, as you say,......we also have choice. I just feel bad for the people who it may make feel worse than they allready do...that's all. Elaine…

You are right in some aspects…..but I think there’a difference between ideas and accusations.

Now, I’m not here to argue or fight etc….in fact, I rarely post here (I do read a lot though)…..but when I seen that first post, I was shocked that anyone could be so callous in their accusations!

I tried to put myself in the position of a vegetarian who has just lost a pet to a petfood that she/he had trusted……it’s just cruel!

Henry Barth may have shown more diplomacy by…for instance…..posting a link to this story….so those WANTING to see it could go there…instead of
starting off this thread in such a way.

In a Free country, as you say,……we also have choice.

I just feel bad for the people who it may make feel worse than they allready do…that’s all.

]]> By: LovingMyPets http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14303 LovingMyPets Fri, 04 May 2007 17:14:59 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14303 Elaine Says: May 4th, 2007 at 12:30 pm "I think we needn’t be so thin-skinned about this–everyone has a right to his/her opinion. A free country requires a free exchange of ideas." BRAVO! Elaine . . . thanks for posting that. I was thinking the same thing. Elaine Says:
May 4th, 2007 at 12:30 pm

“I think we needn’t be so thin-skinned about this–everyone has a right to his/her opinion.

A free country requires a free exchange of ideas.”

BRAVO! Elaine . . . thanks for posting that. I was thinking the same thing.

]]> By: Elaine http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14271 Elaine Fri, 04 May 2007 16:30:15 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14271 I think we needn't be so thin-skinned about this--everyone has a right to his/her opinion. A free country requires a free exchange of ideas. I think we needn’t be so thin-skinned about this–everyone has a right to his/her opinion.

A free country requires a free exchange of ideas.

]]> By: Issy http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14268 Issy Fri, 04 May 2007 16:25:46 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-friday-4-618#comment-14268 Does anyone know what exactly cross contamination means in the case of thousands of recalled pet food - we aren't just talking about dirty equipment here? Does anyone know what exactly cross contamination means in the case of thousands of recalled pet food - we aren’t just talking about dirty equipment here?

]]>