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June 8th, 2007 at 8:33 am
Bush has stomach ailment
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics.....id=3257294
Think maybe it was “something he ate”? Let’s all hope he feels better real soon.
June 8th, 2007 at 8:38 am
MercuryNews.com has an interesting article by AP writer Audra Ang—
“China Blasts US Products Safety”–
I’m speechless………….
June 8th, 2007 at 8:40 am
They have a comments section on that url I posted above about Bush being ill. I posted there hoping it wasn’t from “something he ate.” Yesterday I emailed abcnews about reporting on the poisons in both the pet and human food supply and hope they will take my concerns to heart. Maybe if some of you would post there that would support my complaint?
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics.....id=3257294
You may have to register.
Thanks
June 8th, 2007 at 9:26 am
from the mercurynew . com article:
“Local quality officials should step up the inspection and quarantine on imported food products from the U.S.,” the notice said. “Chinese importers should also clarify food safety demands in contracts when importing U.S. food products, so as to lower the trade risk.”
…………
Looks like the Chinese are throwing our words back to us almost verbatim.
June 8th, 2007 at 9:50 am
Purringfur…………..thats what the Chinese do best, copy,copy. But in some cases they may be correct, as has been said before, it is all big business and what CEO and heavy stock holders can make, no thought of anything else but the money.
June 8th, 2007 at 10:00 am
Have you joined the Class Action Lawsuit? Anyone who has bought pet food is eligible. They only seem to care about money so I say we start the discussion about their money through legal means. We all need to give the companies a wake-up call here!
http://www.mflegal.com/petfoodlawsuit
June 8th, 2007 at 10:08 am
http://www.mercurynews.com/bre.....ck_check=1
“The products failed to meet the sanitary standards of China,”
What’s that again? LOL
That’s fine, you keep your stuff and we’ll keep ours.
June 8th, 2007 at 10:24 am
My morning prior to ill cats:
6am wake up by panting dogs at bedside-go downstairs trying not to trip over two cats swirling around ankles and mewing—let dogs out–feed two cats–6:05am let dogs and feed them—and then have my coffee.
My mornings now:
6 am get out of bed (after not sleeping most of night -worry about bills and sick animals)- let dogs out -going downstairs easy as cats too sick to swirl my ankles. 6:01 Go to computer–check Itchmo and “Pet Food Recall” news on internet. 6:30 feed dogs and pray the cats may eat—if not, syringe feed them–7am–give potassium, pepcid, azodyl to cats (may take long time) Go back to computer and search if any of this madness has made national news.
Thanks Itchmo
June 8th, 2007 at 10:41 am
HomeGrown Says:
June 8th, 2007 at 10:08 am
http://www.mercurynews.com/bre…..ck_check=1
“The products failed to meet the sanitary standards of China,â€
What’s that again? LOL
That’s fine, you keep your stuff and we’ll keep ours.
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Well if that just ain’t “tit for tat”! If the products really didn’t meet their standards they must be really, really bad!!!!
June 8th, 2007 at 11:18 am
One would assume that anything exported by China would meet their sanitary standards, so why are they continuing to send out products which are labeled filthy, with banned coloration and antibiotics, etc.? All of the rejects can be seen at the FDA’s OASIS page for refusals. Until they were called on it–not just by the US, but by the rest of the world who has received tainted goods from them–we heard nothing about imports being rejected because they did not meet China’s sanitary standards.
Here’s what was refused by the US in May 2007. One name is VERY familiar:
http://www.fda.gov/ora/oasis/5/ora_oasis_c_cn.html
BINZHOU FUTIAN BIOLOGY TECHNOLOGY CO LTD., CHINA
SHANDONG CN-NOTA, CN 251900
SEA-DO 336-7635775-2/1/1
70YY-99 RICE PROTEIN CONCENTRATE PACKED IN BAGS
31-MAY-2007 POISONOUS
It tried to enter here through Seattle on May 31, 2007–the official line of the Chinese government is that the company was shut down and officials detained. But the company has offers to sell granule corn gluten, corn gluten and fish meal on a large trading site beginning with “A”; offers posted May 24, 2007, May 29, 2007 and June 3, 2007. They have a bundle of alias company names:
Binzhou Futian Biological Technology Co. Ltd, Rongcheng Zhongcheng fodder company, Binzhou JINLIANG Biological Technology Co.Ltd., Binzhou Futian corn development company and Binzhou Tiandiren E-bussiness Co. Ltd., Wudi Jinliang Corn Development Co., Ltd.
An offer to sell RPC via the Wudi Jinlang Corn Development Co., Ltd. was posted on one of the trading sites April 24, 2007. And this is likely how the RPC on FDA OASIS above tried to enter. On still another site, Binzhou Futian lists the website of Wudi Jinlang as its own.
And should you think we don’t have enough problems with Chinese products:
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/.....E_ID=56056
WorldNet Daily June 7, 2007
China exports lead poisoning
From eye shadow to glazed pottery, products pose danger to U.S. kids
Alleged bacteria and sulfur dioxide preservatives in two shipments are nothing–not when compared to the constant barage of toxins which are shipped to this country and to others.
If the Chinese standards are so high, perhaps the Chinese government wouldn’t mind explaining why all of the toxic shipments to the US and other nations which continue to occur meet them.
You tell the world that Binzhou Futian has been closed, but we find evidence that it may be operating again under various ruses. It appears that you are lashing out at the West, as Evian water was last month’s Western Whipping Boy. And it appears that the truth about product safety is quite painful to the government of China.
June 8th, 2007 at 11:20 am
http://www.mercurynews.com/bre…..ck_check=1
“The products failed to meet the sanitary standards of China,â€
What’s that again? LOL
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while i do find this amusing, we must not forget about what we *did* export . . . .
June 8th, 2007 at 11:37 am
I emailed PetCo and PetSmart about the acetaminophen allegedly in some Hill’s Science Diet products. I gave them all the news report links and referred them to the ASPCA alert.
I asked them to pull the products and find out why Hill’s hasn’t responded.
Product Liability and Pet Safety are at issue.
June 8th, 2007 at 11:45 am
Menusux,
I e-mailed both CN and W-E as to whether they ordered that stuff. I got a senseless answer from Miller and (so far) no answer from W-E. I’m sure it was one or the other. I remember when we were warned not to buy anything in blue or yellow from Spain because of lead in the pigments. That was in the late ’80’s I think. We didn’t have easily accessible internet then, so it must have made the news. Why do they not warn us now? What is wrong with the media?
June 8th, 2007 at 12:08 pm
Susan,
I remember Miller’s wierd e-mail. Not sure if he was admitting to the fact that the “wheat gluten” stored in the warehouse near Pittsburgh which was earmarked for Del Monte belonged to CN or not. That LV news story done on him in late May told that CN rents 5 warehouses thoughout the country as storage for CN’s goods.
He did say that CN did not place the RPC order which was intercepted. W-E, having gone on record as ordering from Binzhou Futian since summer of 2006, would have to be totally mad to place another order with them after their discovery.
My thought would be that it was a company other than CN or W-E who placed the order that was refused on May 31–probably someone who was using one of the trade sites without regard for anything but the bottom line and may even have believed that Wudi Corn Development Co. Ltd. had nothing to do with Binzhou Futian. The RPC sell offer for late April was placed under the Wudi Corn business name at yet another online trading site. Only by researching Binzhou Futian would you find them listed on a trading site with Wudi Corn’s website listed as theirs.
If it was W-E who placed the RPC order, they missed the connection between Binzhou Futian, who turned out to burn them, and Wudi Corn Development Co., Ltd.
According to the news stories we’ve seen, the Wudi area has a reputation for “anything goes” with regard to possible adulteration of food ingredients. People who purchase material like this online are supposed to be in the know–for nothing more than the sake of their business, you’d think everyone would stay away from anything that even appeared to come from the Wudi area.
If you have a look at FDA’s OASIS for China–current & past–you will see many refusals for unsafe glazed dishes, etc. I wish I knew why the media has chosen not to cover all of this–even from a consumer reports standpoint–perhaps it’s in an effort not to rattle their advertisers such as Wal-Mart and the like.
June 8th, 2007 at 12:09 pm
I remember a wise sage i worked with (in civil service) who used to say of our job:
“The guys in charge never want you to know the requirements of your job because if you know what you are required to do you would be able to meet the requirements. This way you are always wrong”
Another wise co-worker used to say:
“When you come in the door, turn on the lights, and shut off your brain.”
Having barely survived working in the system, I understand the Chinese system which is one big civil service run by non elected militarists turned robber barons.
Obviously the Chinese would not have a problem because they are meeting their own standards, which are, in general, whatever you can get away with. Occasionally a couple hundred die or a couple thousand get sickened at which point depending on who may stand to lose profit, or it affected the family of the powerful, or interferred with the program locally, at which point they haul someone off and shoot them. Problem solved. Not.
Here we skip the execution and just declare the problem solved. The press contributes by ceasing to report which is their way of solving the problem. It is the pet owners who are the problem because they refuse to get with the program
My life has changed too. Every day I monitor hair fallout, and vomit piles. I feel around the hips of my cats to see if they are getting more boney. I search stores for something safe. I have ended the treats I used to feed my pets and have to face their sad faces. I have stopped eating bacon, and any pork except imported. I cannot enjoy eating chicken, it nauseates me. And I have to listen to the sham reports on the news
Happy playful silky cats are now survivor cats. I have however become a warrior to solve this farce and rescue my lovely country
June 8th, 2007 at 12:18 pm
Bush has stomach ailment
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics…..id=3257294
Think maybe it was “something he drank�
June 8th, 2007 at 12:22 pm
Anonymous Says:
June 8th, 2007 at 12:18 pm
Bush has stomach ailment
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics…..id=3257294
Think maybe it was “something he drank�
Whatever it was, it was from an EU nation with COOL–better labeling laws than he has back home.
June 8th, 2007 at 12:29 pm
“The products failed to meet the sanitary standards of China,â€
ii.e., someone needed to save face, i.e., keep up the lie…. hmmm. sounds all too familiar, doesn’t it? The official propaganda organ churning out vomit?
E WEM Said: Obviously the Chinese would not have a problem because they are meeting their own standards, which are, in general, whatever you can get away with.
Hmmm. Also sounds familiar. Well, whatever I buy from now on meets my standard: MADE IN AMERICA BY AMERICANS AND LOCALLY GROWN.
E WEM: My life has changed too. Every day I monitor hair fallout, and vomit piles. I feel around the hips of my cats to see if they are getting more boney. I search stores for something safe. I have ended the treats I used to feed my pets and have to face their sad faces. I have stopped eating bacon, and any pork except imported. I cannot enjoy eating chicken, it nauseates me. And I have to listen to the sham reports on the news
Happy playful silky cats are now survivor cats. I have however become a warrior to solve this farce and rescue my lovely country
PUT ‘ER THERE BUDDY!
June 8th, 2007 at 12:52 pm
e wem & 4lgdfriend, Please give your kitties kisses and tell them they have friends out here pulling for them, fighting for them, and praying for them! Faith
June 8th, 2007 at 1:13 pm
e wem: “I have however become a warrior to solve this farce and rescue my lovely country”
Ditto. I haven’t had a pet become ill. But that doesn’t mean this whole episode hasn’t affected me deeply. I also have had to scrutinize my animals and their food. We all have been living on the edge, and waiting for the edge to give out.
My family thinks I have lost it. I report to them every new development, whether they want to know or not. I could not live with myself if I didn’t give them the info. If I don’t do it, where are they going to hear it? On TV with the hit and run stories, or in some newspaper that either puts it in the back pages or downplays it or even isn’t available to them? What they do with it then is in their hands. But no matter to me that they complacently go on with their lives. I will continue to fight for us all. We need our country back!
June 8th, 2007 at 1:23 pm
Oh, I wanted to add that they say China produces most of our vitamins and herbals. Ummmm, how bout we just eat Florida oranges for our vitamin C, get vitamin D from sunshine and Calcium from milk and cheese. I would go through all the other vitamins, but sure you know what I mean. Heaven forbid we should get vitamins from FOOD. Gasp!
Oh, thats right, they need the supplemental vitamins for all that overprocessed crap, cause without the vitamin supplements they have the nutritional value of cardboard.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
Done ranting now. LOL
June 8th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
HomeGrown: Getting nutrients in unaltered form from whole foods is a good idea. Hope it catches on.
good article on this:
http://www.michaelpollan.com/article.php?id=87 brief excerpt:
Most nutritional science involves studying one nutrient at a time, an approach that even nutritionists who do it will tell you is deeply flawed. ”The problem with nutrient-by-nutrient nutrition science,” points out Marion Nestle, the New York University nutritionist, ”is that it takes the nutrient out of the context of food, the food out of the context of diet and the diet out of the context of lifestyle.”
June 8th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
….in fact, HomeGrown, that quote really hits exactly what’s at the bottom of the problem with feeding pets mass produced foods designed by the petfood) industry.
June 8th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
…and then we get marketeers adding mela-plastic as “protein” just because it’s nitrogen. etc.
course it helps that it’s not mentioned on the label, but that’s a whole different scam
June 8th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
I found a very interesting article about food safety, which mentions the fact that industry blames their customers for foodborne illnesses.
“Today, such accusations usually take the form of unsubstantiated statements such as, “The majority of foodborne illness happens in the home.” This, coupled with the cook, clean, chill, separate messages targeted at consumers (available at your grocer’s meat and seafood counter), perpetuates the myth that consumers are the primary cause of foodborne illness.
But as produce, peanut butter and pet food demonstrate, such messages are incomplete. The World Health Organization recognized this back in 2001 and included a fifth key to safer food: use safe water and raw materials, or, source food from safe sources (http://www.who.int/foodsafety/consumer/5keys/en/index.html).
The first line of defense is the farm, not the consumer.”
http://barfblog.foodsafety.ksu.....consumers/
June 8th, 2007 at 1:51 pm
Are you ready to rumble?
I am.
We took the casualties and it is high time to get in a few licks against the baddies.
Mainstream media ignores us? We will make it a point to file complaints with the FCC for every TV station that is ignoring the pleas of the public.
Get FCC complaint forms and go for it.
This will cost the media money and time to fight it and then we will go after their advertisers, and the bottom line they care so much about?, it can bottom OUT.
You guys and gals look like a fine bunch of warriors to me!
If we can count on NO help, then so be it, we can do it ourselves.
We came this far, we can go further.
I am sick of wondering what “they” will do on Friday, let “them” worry about what WE are gonna do on Friday. And every other day of the week.
Let “them” wake up sick with dread and fear.
I have an idea about next Friday that will knock your socks off!
Do you wanna enlist?
This is an all volunteer army, the pay sucks and we are outnumbered, we are going to fight battles none of us wanted but hey, sounds like every other army and war I ever heard of, so I say we go for it and I am going to LAUGH while I do it-because I have cried the last tears I am going to cry over this. Done crying, time to get to making the enemy cry.
What do you think?
June 8th, 2007 at 2:00 pm
Count me in, E. Hamilton. I have had it. Just had it. The crap about crafting responses really got to me. What happened to telling the truth? I am ticked at elected officials, businesses, media, etc. FCC complaints. I love it! I still cry, though. One of my cats is recovering; the other is less sick, but both of us are tired. But I am ready to drag my tired body out there. I’m going down fighting. What was the media quote: “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore!”
June 8th, 2007 at 2:07 pm
The cushiest job in government
http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/
June 8th, 2007 at 2:14 pm
E. I’m in. How do I get the FCC complaint forms and what do I do?
And since it is Recall Friday, hopefully the Fnuts that have the tylenol tainted dog food will come forward and recall their crap.
June 8th, 2007 at 2:17 pm
Glad to have you onboard Susan.
Today is FCC complaint day, and spread the word.
Every pet blog, group, anyplace you can think of.
If a pet owner begged for news coverage and did not get it, then the station gets a complaint. Some stations may get a LOT of complaints.
Simple, will cost “THEM” and we can start NOW.
Cry if you want or have to, I sure understand.
Me, I am gonna make “THEM” do some crying!
The complaints can be filed any day that fits your schedule but let us get started sending the message to the pet parents that THEY DON’T HAVE TO TAKE IT!
June 8th, 2007 at 2:20 pm
Call the stations that blew you off and ask for complaint forms, call the FCC, call an advertiser on the station and ask if THEY know how to file a complaint.
I have no idea how to do this but I WILL know how to do after I have done it and so will YOU!
June 8th, 2007 at 2:24 pm
I will be searching for the FCC info on my local radio and TV stations so I may start filing. I have a large family, all of us pet lovers, so I have started there. I just sent out a group e-mail to siblings, cousins, children, nieces, nephews, etc. My daughter will post on her blog. I will send an e-mail to friends next and ask them to forward it. I keep thinking of Alice”s Restaurant. 10 people a day, a hundred people a day! The Alice’s Restaurant Anti-Massacree Movement. (Sorry, showing my age.) But if I can get 10 people today, I’ll push for 100 on Monday.
June 8th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
E. I put the FCC complaint form link up but the spam filter got it. It should show up soon.
June 8th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
If it doesn’t show up soon, google FCC and click on FCC Home Page, then find the word consumer and click there, then find the word complaint and click there. You get a few choices of what kind of complaint you want to file.
June 8th, 2007 at 2:29 pm
Susan, you just became a general! All hail Susan!
I just posted the FCC complaint link too and the filter musta caught it- sooner or later we will get it here and if someone can’t use google to find it they ..well… they probably work for the FDA or the PFI anyway, right?
June 8th, 2007 at 2:33 pm
Thank you, E. My daughter works for radio, so I will get the dirt tonight on how to word complaints to REALLY catch attention. I’m tempted to file an onscenity charge, if you think obscenity is in the eye of the beholder. It is obscene that they haven’t publicized this disaster.
June 8th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
The Alice’s Restaurant Anti-Massacree Movement is a fine marching song for this army- I like it very much for our theme song! know it by heart and I earned every one of my gray hairs too so we can whistle and sing while we work.
I am all for having the tunes.
June 8th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Feels like the old days. Heats the blood and gives me energy I thought I lost. Gotta get busy and look up FCC license numbers. Don’t want to give them that out. “It wasn’t me…”
You can get anything you want…….
June 8th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
E. You’re killing me here, LOL!
You can get anything you want at Alice’s Restaurant,
(exceptin real food)
You can get anything you want at Alice’s Restaurant.
Walk right in; it’s around the back
Just a half a mile from the railraod tracks,
You can get anything you want at Alice’s Restaurant.
Bush can be Office Obie and the FDA is the Judge with the seeing eye dog because justice is blind (or at least the FDA is)
Now that song will be stuck in my head all day, LOL!
June 8th, 2007 at 3:22 pm
To Carol: Before: Mornings were rushing my pet out the door for her morning take care of business. Checking to see if she had clean water and a bit of food.
Coming home to a silly wagging little dog. 4pm must be bone treat time.
Rushing out again outside. Going for power walks. Loved to power walk, she didn’t have time to stop and smell the grass.
Play, Play, Play, and nap on her little cushion and many blankets.
Nights were another series of routines, go out again for the night, coming in and doing her shimmy shakes and leg stretches and stretching, arching her back and finally jumping in bed. Checking out her blankets and making sure they were just right. And finally, coming up and sniff me to make sure I was OK and going back to her covers at the foot of the bed. Snoring and snorting all night.
Every night she would make me laugh because of how she would stretch her legs like that would make them grow. She was a short little squatty Chi/terrier mix.
Now: NOTHING, only an empty quite house. Not sleeping at night. Thoughts of how she looked at me with her pleading eyes when she got sick and died. How helpless we all were.
Reading Itchmo and sending out emails.
This is what pet food company has done for me.
June 8th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
Ruth, I am so sorry for you and what has happened to your family. It feels like someone has broken right into our homes and destroyed our beloved animals. I feel like the lucky one sometimes as my 2 cats did survive but I’m not sure that every day is good day for them…They still have a long road to go..I’m trying to do the right thing and do what is right for my cats, not for me, and that is so hard to do. My thoughts are with you and other pet parents who have lost their loved ones.
Carol
June 8th, 2007 at 3:37 pm
Oh Ruth
You made me cry. I’m so, so sorry.
Ok, troops! Tell the FCC that Paris Hilton is NOT front page news! What IS front page news is that we and our pets are being slowly killed and made ill by unsafe food! Ok, my blood is boiling now which means I have reached letter writing temperature.
June 8th, 2007 at 3:45 pm
EHamilton, I’m in. Complaints to the FCC today. I don’t see where your plan for next Friday has been announced but we should keep busy with the FCC stuff until then. I’ll stay here at work late and fill out the forms after hours. Go GANG! :)
June 8th, 2007 at 3:47 pm
These stories break my hart my routine has changed some with the handfeeding the people food because they will not eat it out of the bowl*SIGH* watching them constantly and not being able to just enjoy them. Even though they seem to be on the road to recovery nothing with ever be the same in my house thanks to these horrible people. I have been sleeping on the floor in the living room since march 23rd, scared to death they will relapse and I won’t hear them.
All this however is minor compared to the stories I have read above, I agree with what someone wrote on another blog about when these pet food people die they better watch out for all the angry pets waiting for them on the otherside ready to make them pay for what they have done.
June 8th, 2007 at 3:56 pm
Bush has stomach ailment
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics…..id=3257294
Think maybe it was “something he ate� Let’s all hope he feels better real soon.
Maybe he ate some melameat with some cyanaric acid LOL. Oh, I can only hope LOL
June 8th, 2007 at 3:57 pm
I just did a quick search of my local paper’s archives. There have been no reports on food safety in the past 6 months. The last article on the pet food recall was on March 30th. There have been 2 articles on China-1 on DEG in toothpaste, 1 regarding pollution-in the past 6 months. 2 articles on the FDA- Avandia and the DEG article. Nothing on the USDA. The paper belongs to Gannett as does USAToday and yet there has been no cross over on stories. Why would these stories be important in one paper and not in another? I am writing to the CEO of my local paper, the CEO of Gannett, and the Gannett Board of Directors. A lot of the seniors in my area read the paper and watch the local nightly news. Period. Everybody’s going to hear about it. To repeat myself:
“I’m as mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore!”
June 8th, 2007 at 4:00 pm
The plan for NEXT Friday will not be announced just yet, why should we give “THEM” warning? I think not.
Oh there will be a thread in the forum on Monday, instructions on what to do to get ready but I have to do some thinking on how to keep the spies from learning the Friday action.
Giggle-this is SO James Bond!
We need allies too.
I was thinking that war protesters and Nam veterans, from when our theme song was new and we were younger might like to join this battle.
They know a lot more than I do about this sort of thing and some of them must be pet parents.
I am open to ideas.
June 8th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
My husband and I are both Nam vets, as are 2 of my brothers-in-law. One lost his 19 y/o cat Blackjack to kidney failure in April. The other has 2 dogs that escaped the disaster. I know they’ll be complaining to the FCC. Maybe they’ll be interested in doing more. I’ll ask them to check in here at Itchmo.
(And no, it’s not weird-lots of women were in the medical corps.)
June 8th, 2007 at 4:09 pm
If you have an idea, or a plan, or whatever that needs to be kept from the prying eyes, USE the PM feature on the forums.
We have it and we sure as heck need it SO USE THE PM.
One more time.
If you have a HOT idea, or way to help that should NOT be posted for spying eyes USE THE PRIVATE MESSAGE FEATURE ON THE FORUMS!!!!
June 8th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
EHamilton, You’re right! I’m an idiot! And that reminds me…
HEY ALL YA’LL STINKING PET FOOD COMPANY LURKERS! Just keep telling yourselves that this is only a group of wacky animal people. Instead you’ll find that we’re for the most part highly educated, gainfully employeed, motivated, and most importantly good-hearted people.
Something I don’t even tell my coworkers and hate bragging, but this is “my personal call to duty”, I will act, and you need to know who I am…
I’m a full-fledged genius, good job, still young enough to stay up till the wee hours spreading the work and I WILL NAIL YOU eventually. I KNOW I have the power to do it legally and honorably. Bet you can’t say the same about yourselves.
Gang, speak up, this isn’t the time for humility…. tell them who you are and what they’re up against! Be proud! Be strong!
Remember all those babies mentioned above! They’ll be proud of us!
June 8th, 2007 at 4:11 pm
Susan, please PM me.
Anyone seen Ally?
June 8th, 2007 at 4:11 pm
E. You are really bringing out the baby boomer in me here. Think way back when, how idyllic we were in how we thought we were going to change the world. Drop out of society, eat “organic”…remember “eat organic”? Look what we’ve got now. Somehow I don’t think we pulled off what we tried for but the intentions were good. Too bad they all got lost over the years.
I think maybe targeting the organic bloggers and some of the politcal bloggers would be a good idea as they may already be in the thick of it or at least aware. ?????
June 8th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
FDA Science Board to Meet on June 14
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/.....01649.html
June 8, 2007 FDA News
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) Science Board will hold a public meeting on June 14, 2007. The board, an advisory committee to the FDA, provides the agency with expert outside advice on specific technical issues, as well as emerging issues within the scientific community, industry, and academia. Members counsel the agency on regulatory science, the formulation of an appropriate research agenda, and on upgrading FDA’s scientific and research facilities.
“Science provides the foundation for FDA’s regulatory decisions,” said Janet Woodcock, M.D., FDA’s deputy commissioner and chief medical officer. “Science and technology are creating products with enormous promise and, frequently, considerable challenges. This in-depth review of our scientific capacity is critical to assuring that FDA will continue to meet the regulatory challenges of the future.”
Members of the board will address food protection, the agency’s interim safety/risk assessment of melamine, a report on the Antimicrobial Resistance Monitoring System (NARMS), and an agency-wide review of FDA science. For a complete agenda, briefing documents, and a list of subject matters experts that serve as advisors to the subcommittee and their affiliations, please see:
http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/docke.....ienceBoard
The Science Board meeting is scheduled for June 14 from 8 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. at the Holiday Inn, 2 Montgomery Village Ave., Gaithersburg, Md.
Public comments can be submitted; please see the Federal Register notice for this meeting for more information:
http://www.fda.gov/OHRMS/DOCKETS/98fr/E7-9737.htm
June 8th, 2007 at 4:24 pm
E-PM sent.
June 8th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
Ruth, I am so sorry–I know the quiet feeling from all too recently . I hope another furry companion will find you soon. Help spread the word.
4lgd
June 8th, 2007 at 4:32 pm
Menusux: Members of the board will address food protection, the agency’s ***interim*** safety/risk assessment of melamine
interim??? do gongs go off for anyone else?
June 8th, 2007 at 4:36 pm
E.Hamilton - way to go. save some strength for the long haul too - this won’t be over until the fat petfoodpoisoners sing.
meantime:
PETS DIED - WE WON’T BUY!!
June 8th, 2007 at 4:48 pm
Well, us baby boomers did it once. e can do it again. Go for it!
June 8th, 2007 at 4:50 pm
Ruth - I’m so sorry for your loss.
Carol, LorieVA - I’m like you, I have a survivor (Lorie already knows as we share info offline). But it’s not the same, our routine of daily play and laughter has been interrupted by worry and stress, and daily subcutaneous fluids. I am not a needles/blood/medical person but I have stepped outside my comfort zone to care for my beloved pet. Instead of knowing I’ll have to say goodbye to her sometime in the distant future (she will be 8 this summer) I worry that I’ll have to make that awful decision much too early… I worry that we now only have months to a few years when without this petfood tragedy we could’ve had a decade or more. A decade. That’s a lot of time. She still sleeps curled next to me or sprawled across my chest, close to my heartbeat. We are still bonded, and when she’s feeling good I still get sneak attack lovebites on my back while I’m trying to do my eye makeup in the morning (haven’t lost an eye yet!). But other things are missing, she no longer attacks my shoestrings when I’m tying up my sneakers to head to the gym. Her meow is scratchy sometimes, and she seems to sleep so much more like any ill creature would, and I watch her obsessively to see if anything’s changed, different, worse. I keep telling myself I should write a journal just so I can remember all her funny little traits and I’ve become obsessive with the camera - both kitties (one is still healthy) are sick & tired of having a camera in their face. I hate the PFI for doing this to us. I hate them so much. I hate them with a hot, fiery passion. They’ve cut deep. And yet? I’m one of the lucky ones, my girl’s still alive and breathing and I know so many have been through so much worse and my heart breaks for each and every person going along on this horrible ride that none of us signed up for…
June 8th, 2007 at 4:50 pm
I meant We can do it again!! all of us.
June 8th, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to free pet parents from feeling helpless and gather recruits for the army.
Finds allies wherever you can and post the FCC complaint form link on pet blogs, regular bogs, groups where you are allowed to post, whatever you can think of that might help.
There are pissed off pet parents who need us as much as we need them, find em.
Use the PRIVATE MESSAGE system here in the forums for any sensitive stuff and further instructions will be posted as we come up with them.
If you have a HOT idea USE THE PRIVATE MESSAGE SYSTEM.
We have all already been disavowed by our government and the press and everyone else so no need to worry about that.
You can get anything you want at Alice’s Restaurant.
June 8th, 2007 at 4:52 pm
i think it’s quite possible that the shipments rejected by China are every bit as bad as they said they are. i think that it’s a tenet of business in this country that if it can’t be sold here because of problems with quality, it can be unloaded in many foreign countries with impunity. i think it’s good that China is becoming more vigilant about what it accepts, no matter what their motivation might be for doing so. i hope they will also become more vigilant in what they export. for myself, i will be doing my utmost to avoid both imported food and that produced by mega corporations in this country.
and, i will enlist as a footsoldier in Hamilton’s army.
June 8th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
Ruth, I;m so very sorry. I can’t even imagine .
Ruth, LorieVA, E Wen, Faith, Could You PLEASE get in touch with Me. We don’t want this to be swept under the rug. The pets deserve recognition.
magesticats@net-change.com
And so do all of you!!
June 8th, 2007 at 4:57 pm
Lorie Va, is that Virginia, or veterans adminitration, or just a name? It’s because i’m in N.C. that I ask,
June 8th, 2007 at 4:59 pm
Whoooo hoooo..Channel 10 in Phoenix finally aired the Ole Roy Dog Food recall…imagine that!
June 8th, 2007 at 5:02 pm
I will be shipping off one can of feline z/d to the lab on Monday. The vet wants to be the witness. He probably has more credibility than I do anyway.
So we shall see what happens…
(I know this is off topic, but I see Trudy is here.)
June 8th, 2007 at 5:09 pm
BTW I also have a survivor of a related nightmare. One of my cats is back in the hospital because his 9 inch scar from his recent cancer surgery is breaking down - the skin is compromised in that area after all the radiation treatments. He doesn’t have cancer - we beat that monster - so this seems minor in comparison.
This is his 2nd bout of the most virulent form of sarcoma caused by a rabies injection 9 years ago. The pharmaceutical companies never publicly owned up to that one either…..
We’d appreciate your prayers and good thoughts sent his way. He’s holding up well and fortunately is friends with nearly everyone at the closest vet school where he’s treated.
June 8th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
Wow, susan. I can’t wait for the results. I wish i hadn’t gotten rid of Mine but maybe Your’s will tell us something. I sure hope so. Thanks and let Me know.
June 8th, 2007 at 5:16 pm
Faith, our prayers are with you and yours.
June 8th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
I am getting very fond of this woman Lisa Wade McCormick
http://tinyurl.com/343owg
June 8th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
Well, I have a true story I want to share with everyone because I think if this doesn’t shed CFL lighting on the true state of affairs this country is in -then I don’t know what will.
I received a late afternoon phone call from my car service technician. My car has been in the shop for about 3 weeks. Reason? A very subtle sound that shouldn’t have been there. At first the guys couldn’t hear it, but then the entire staff could hear it and could also feel the ever so slight excess vibration that occurred occasionally, every now and again. If I was a normal person, with cd’s playing or talking or AC on, maybe I never would have noticed. I drive the car quiet - so I noticed. It took everyone else to be quiet to also notice and then they all noticed a strange, subtle noice and vibration.
These guys took three long weeks of a step by step take-down, literally looking at every part. I did not ask them for this level of diligence, but they were so intrigued because NONE of their state of the art diagnostics (routine tests) showed anything even remotely odd.
Finally they called and said, we found the problem. Great, I thought. They said they found aluminum deposits in some place in the engine (not usually looked at) and I said OK. They said, well, there just should not be aluminum deposits there for ANY reason. I said, OH, how did it get there and they said the only way would be because of the gas. I said (which is absolutely true) that I have only ever put in premium gas (Octane 93+). They said, we know, but we took a sample of your gas and had it tested and there was SO many contaminants and pollutants in it and excessive alcohol. I was completely silent (guess what I was thinking about). Then I said, but I was buying premium - high octane and they said that octane did not really address the level of contaminants in gas and that the EPA standards are so low that even just meeting standards would not be good enough to address the level of contamination if people were intent on selling contaminated gas. I asked if there is any gas that has lower contamination levels and they said the only gas they know of that is pretty pure is Shell. Shell invests in doing alot of testing of gas - theirs and others. So now only Shell V-power for me for now.
So, I am getting like a brand new car since they cleaned out everything (this car only has 20,000 miles).
Purpose of the story? Can we say MELA-GAS??????
PS. BP gas has been found to be the worst (meaning they consistently find problems with cars run on BP) and they have the most environmentally savvy ads, by the way.
Moral of the story: This just takes the cake - contaminated pet food, contaminated human food, contaminated personal care products, contaminated gas….Unless there are strict regulations and stiffer penalties, companies will opt to cut corners to increase profit margins. Just like the premium pet foods of Iam’s and Science Diet - many of us had spent more to assure better quality nutrition for our pets, I bought premium gas to assure better quality gas to protect my engine. At the end of the day, the premium brands are not only LOW quality, but it is also contaminated.
Like the other poster stated - we have been absolutely abandoned by our government - glaringly during Katrina but insidiously everyday by the products they allow to be put on the market for us to slowly poison ourselves, our familes and pets, and now our vehicles. It’s no wonder the quality of life/shelf life of everything has gone down tremendously. We live in a suboptimal state (rather then expiring) only because we have the medical profession manage our chronic conditions, we buy new pets (in a few years after our other ones face rare conditions and diseases at super young ages and eventually are euthanized - even though our pets are so protected and pampered), we buy new cars in 3-4 years time because they start running rough and unreliably and maintenance costs outprice the cost of a new car even though many cars and trucks cost in the $30 thousands. An investment like that SHOULD last at least 20-30 years for everyone, not just for the expert laypersons that know how to fix vehicles.
This is crazy, as I contemplate the stuff we have to deal with.
June 8th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
FCC COMPLAINTS: Broadcast stations MUST operate “in the public interest.” If they fail to do so, YOU may file a challenge to their license renewal. As outrageously cold-shouldered and evasive this media has been to this ONGOING MASS FOOD POISONING, I urge everyone to do so.
June 8th, 2007 at 6:14 pm
Don’t wait for Bush to do anything about any of this.
June 8th, 2007 at 6:16 pm
That works for me, Buster!
June 8th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
totally OT, but does anyone know how to hamdle an anti freeze spill?! just came home and there is a car parked that looks like it has leaked all it’s anti freeze out and i’d like to make it safe before some poor dog or cat gets into it . . .
June 8th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
Cover it quickly with dirt. Cover it with something.
June 8th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
For antifreeze - soak up spill with rags, put them in a sealable container and ask your local gas station to dispose of.
June 8th, 2007 at 6:36 pm
Thanks you 2!
I’ll have to go with rags as I’m in Brooklyn with no avaiable dirt!!!
June 8th, 2007 at 6:40 pm
Thank you all for your thoughts. I breaks my heart for the rest of you guys who have pets that are still suffering. It so hard to imagine that the food we gave made them so sick. And the pet food companies still not doing their part to make it right.
June 8th, 2007 at 6:49 pm
Straybaby
You can also soak it up with kitten litter it will absored it all adnd the scoop it in a bag and throw it away,
June 8th, 2007 at 6:50 pm
Trudy,
I am in Virginia, never thought of Vetrans affairs sorry if I misled anyone
June 8th, 2007 at 6:53 pm
Straybaby–My first thought would be to throw lots of cat litter on it to soak it up. Then shovel up the mess into a garbage bag. Then pour laundry soap on what’s left add small amt. water and mop it up. worth a try.
June 8th, 2007 at 6:54 pm
Straybaby, since cats and dogs like the taste; can you 1st try paper towels to sop-up as much as you can. {and put those in a plastic bags or 2 or 3 and into something like a tin can and more plastic bags, then the trash}
And then put down some sand or clay powder or dirt or last resort- cat litter??
You could call a service station for advice/product but, you need to remove as much as possible 1st anyway. {and I sure yu now that} And the other part so they won’t lick the pavement.
Takes a long time to ‘dry’.
June 8th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
Thanks all! I just grabbed an absorbent cotton bed sheet, cut it into wide strips and lined the gutter. also cleaned up the puddle under the car. worked well and i can drop them at the station tomorrow. have the bag in the hall with a warning note on it (top floor and only pet owner in the building)
i’ve seen kitty litter used and thought about running out to get some, but this went more than the length of a building. I was def close to a bottle full. nice river in the gutter. i wasn’t sure how i would do the clean up after the fact or if the city would have an issue with it. lol!~ the downside of apartment living!
It’s pretty clean if i do say so myself, but i’ll print out some warning stickers to put on the curb. sheesh. drives me nuts when folks change or add it and leave the empties on the curb around the ‘hood, a river of it is a bit nuts! GRRR!
June 8th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
Terrible Flooding in China {can’t remember which ‘provinces’/counties}. It is estimated at 600 million in damages- HUGE.
{those poor people!}
Flooding is very bad for the Agriculture aspect. Contaminants any of the Growing crops.
Very nasty by-product of Flooding anywhere.
Hope they get on top of it.
June 8th, 2007 at 7:08 pm
Starbaby, You did very good.
June 8th, 2007 at 7:14 pm
I argee with Trudy, Hero of the day: Straybaby :-D
June 8th, 2007 at 7:23 pm
Thank you, Straybaby on behalf of your neighborhood animals!
June 8th, 2007 at 7:25 pm
On Kiki’s Gas contaminants: How the heck would Alumimun get Into Gasolines?
I thought Alumimun was a Totally Man-made metal {not mined or found in the ‘ground’}
The only thing I can think of that it is contaminanted During Refining of Crude.
{and depending on the ‘cafe-blends’ {how many ‘cleanings’ it goes through} could there be/must be, some wearing of the pipes and tubes and where metal meets metal pieces, rubbing off/shirring In-to the product.
Great Refinery maintenance!
What do we do?
Can we Buy a filter for the tank at the mouth??? {get out my Grandma’s fine screen sieve?!}
Scheesch!
June 8th, 2007 at 7:47 pm
“Over the past two years, 99 percent of food exported to the United States was up to safety standards, which is a very high percentage,” said Li Yuanping, senior official in charge of imported and exported food safety in the General Administration of Quality Supervision, Inspection and Quarantine (GAQSIQ).
http://tinyurl.com/343owg
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could this be because only one percent is inspected?
June 8th, 2007 at 7:59 pm
The comments finally showed up Consumer Reports with a rather… limp statement from an editor
Thanks, everyone, for your comments. I hope you’ll all take the time to read this entire post, as well as the linked articles from Consumer Reports. We share the concerns of pet owners everywhere, and acknowledge that the “16 cats and dogs” figure is the official count; as we say above, “many more are suspected.” As you’ll see from the article linked above, Consumer Reports has been advocating against contaminated animal feed for years. The linked article appeared in January 2005, long before the current crisis, and concluded that “our investigation raises concerns that the federal government isn’t doing enough to protect the feed supply and that as a result, the food we eat may not be as safe as it could be.” We will continue to report on this serious issue, and we look forward to a continued dialog with all of you.
Marc Perton
Executive Editor
ConsumerReports.org
I doubt they will repeat the hated 16 unless they want another pounding.
The look forward to a continued dialog stuff made me laugh. I just bet they are.
They do the 16 again and he will be looking back at the smoking ruins of his career.
http://tinyurl.com/2n5g4x
June 8th, 2007 at 8:10 pm
I had just about given up on them. I hope next time they can say 16 of Menu Foods test animals died and untold thousands in the US alone.
June 8th, 2007 at 8:49 pm
I just posted to consumer Reports. How long does it take to get it on there?
June 8th, 2007 at 8:53 pm
LorieVA , Are You still on here?
June 8th, 2007 at 9:00 pm
Many more deaths suspected?
The vet and I were both real sure MY pets were really dead.
They were dead enough to be cremated.
The editor really should have apologized.
THE LIE MUST DIE!
I can’t deal with this guy tonight, I just can’t.
June 8th, 2007 at 9:25 pm
When the Hell are they going to tell us what foods the acetaminophen is in? We demand to know now!!!
June 8th, 2007 at 11:05 pm
Faith my prayers are with you. My previous dog went thru 26 days of radiation treatments - yes we beat the cancer but her elbow developed a sore which opened up cause the bone was coming thru the skin. I did a search and found that cottage cheese in small amounts (if your cat can have this) helped to heal the skin and it had started to grow over the bone again. But as luck would have it I had to take off her leg anyway. She did fine til the kidneys started to go so know where your at. Please make sure the clinic/hospital explains everything they are doing and what home care your baby should get. The cancer facility I used in Buffalo Grove, IL slapped a bandage on her leg after her last cancer check-up and sent me home - never, ever telling me the dog should have been on a high protein diet to heal her fully. My best to you and yours.
June 9th, 2007 at 7:56 am
My letter is still not on consumer Reports?
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