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		<title>By: Stevie</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15457</link>
		<author>Stevie</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 09:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bingo Helen!! I TOTALLY agree with you.</description>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15423</link>
		<author>Helen</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 04:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15423</guid>
		<description>What we could do is avoid harping on our party differences and concentrate on what we agree on....that we can work together to make a difference in food safety.  :O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we could do is avoid harping on our party differences and concentrate on what we agree on&#8230;.that we can work together to make a difference in food safety.  :O</p>
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		<title>By: JollyCat</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15395</link>
		<author>JollyCat</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 02:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15395</guid>
		<description>Dr. Marty ain't a good source for information.  And how could anyone say Pet Promise is even an option?  It's just Purina in drag.

We still haven't learned our lessons.  Just as gullible and listening to experts that aren't experts at all.  Oprah was setting Dr. Marty up to satisfy pet food companies and hit the neutral zone.  After she got bashed on by the cattle industry looks like she got spooked.

Helen, agreed that the food issue and politics can't be separated out.

I just wonder where the other two shipments of wheat gluten turned up.  Just like any good liar, they think if they are quiet enough it'll go away and we'll forget.  I think companies are getting reports and trying to bury things with answers like, "It's not on recall" or "the lot code doesn't match" or "everything we sell is safe" when they are just looking out for money.

So disappointing, this whole thing is just so sad.  Just be careful about any more pet food experts.  The ones before led a lot of people down dangerous paths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Marty ain&#8217;t a good source for information.  And how could anyone say Pet Promise is even an option?  It&#8217;s just Purina in drag.</p>
<p>We still haven&#8217;t learned our lessons.  Just as gullible and listening to experts that aren&#8217;t experts at all.  Oprah was setting Dr. Marty up to satisfy pet food companies and hit the neutral zone.  After she got bashed on by the cattle industry looks like she got spooked.</p>
<p>Helen, agreed that the food issue and politics can&#8217;t be separated out.</p>
<p>I just wonder where the other two shipments of wheat gluten turned up.  Just like any good liar, they think if they are quiet enough it&#8217;ll go away and we&#8217;ll forget.  I think companies are getting reports and trying to bury things with answers like, &#8220;It&#8217;s not on recall&#8221; or &#8220;the lot code doesn&#8217;t match&#8221; or &#8220;everything we sell is safe&#8221; when they are just looking out for money.</p>
<p>So disappointing, this whole thing is just so sad.  Just be careful about any more pet food experts.  The ones before led a lot of people down dangerous paths.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15374</link>
		<author>Helen</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 00:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think it is possible to divide the food debacle from politics.  Politics are part of the disaster.  I don't see how we can avoid discussing the roots of this issue if we are going to fight the disgusting corrupt system that has been poisoning our pets (and us).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it is possible to divide the food debacle from politics.  Politics are part of the disaster.  I don&#8217;t see how we can avoid discussing the roots of this issue if we are going to fight the disgusting corrupt system that has been poisoning our pets (and us).</p>
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		<title>By: cheetah-dog</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15326</link>
		<author>cheetah-dog</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 20:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15326</guid>
		<description>Stevie just proved my point!</description>
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		<title>By: Stevie</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15325</link>
		<author>Stevie</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 20:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15325</guid>
		<description>cheetah-dog:

Most Republicans can dish it out (to the Dems) but they can't take it when the heat is turned up on them .-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cheetah-dog:</p>
<p>Most Republicans can dish it out (to the Dems) but they can&#8217;t take it when the heat is turned up on them .-)</p>
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		<title>By: cheetah-dog</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15322</link>
		<author>cheetah-dog</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 19:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15322</guid>
		<description>All of the Republican and or Bush bashing is getting really old on this forum.  It is really not productive. Isn't there a forum for all of the generalized political statements?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the Republican and or Bush bashing is getting really old on this forum.  It is really not productive. Isn&#8217;t there a forum for all of the generalized political statements?</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15306</link>
		<author>Zoe</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 19:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15306</guid>
		<description>SusanUnPC,

If none of them will eat it I wouldn't try to feed it to them again.  Maybe they detect something in it.

That's cute about the raccoons and the peanut butter sandwich. I have some baby possums that stop by.  I call it the critter cafe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SusanUnPC,</p>
<p>If none of them will eat it I wouldn&#8217;t try to feed it to them again.  Maybe they detect something in it.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s cute about the raccoons and the peanut butter sandwich. I have some baby possums that stop by.  I call it the critter cafe.</p>
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		<title>By: susanUnPC</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15295</link>
		<author>susanUnPC</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 18:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15295</guid>
		<description>Late yesterday, I realized I didn't have time to get to my favored pet food store before it closed, so I stopped by my friend's health food grocery/deli and bought two cans of Wysong from him.  

Well, I gave it to my 2 cats and the 5 homeless cats.  Nobody would eat it.

I recall you all griping lately about Wysong.  But why don't even my homeless cats eat it?

(Raccoons come by at night and clean up whatever the homelss cats don't eat.  And I usually give them a peanut-butter sandwich every night.  But I kept checking, and even the raccoons only ate the Wysong after they'd eaten everything else.  When even the raccoons don't want it, something is up ...)  ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late yesterday, I realized I didn&#8217;t have time to get to my favored pet food store before it closed, so I stopped by my friend&#8217;s health food grocery/deli and bought two cans of Wysong from him.  </p>
<p>Well, I gave it to my 2 cats and the 5 homeless cats.  Nobody would eat it.</p>
<p>I recall you all griping lately about Wysong.  But why don&#8217;t even my homeless cats eat it?</p>
<p>(Raccoons come by at night and clean up whatever the homelss cats don&#8217;t eat.  And I usually give them a peanut-butter sandwich every night.  But I kept checking, and even the raccoons only ate the Wysong after they&#8217;d eaten everything else.  When even the raccoons don&#8217;t want it, something is up &#8230;)  ?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15250</link>
		<author>Anonymous</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 16:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15250</guid>
		<description>Steve is exactly right.  It is not going to get better.  They are hoping people will just forget about it and nothing will change. Note this quote by Acheson:

"Globalization of food is here. It's here to stay. We need to acknowledge that and make sure food coming to the United States is as safe as we can make it," Acheson said in a telephone interview, one of the first he has conducted since taking on the new post on Tuesday.

In other words we will continue to import everything from China with minimum inspection.

I for one am transitioning my cats to home made food.  We will have to be very careful about our own food, medicines, vitamins  from here on out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve is exactly right.  It is not going to get better.  They are hoping people will just forget about it and nothing will change. Note this quote by Acheson:</p>
<p>&#8220;Globalization of food is here. It&#8217;s here to stay. We need to acknowledge that and make sure food coming to the United States is as safe as we can make it,&#8221; Acheson said in a telephone interview, one of the first he has conducted since taking on the new post on Tuesday.</p>
<p>In other words we will continue to import everything from China with minimum inspection.</p>
<p>I for one am transitioning my cats to home made food.  We will have to be very careful about our own food, medicines, vitamins  from here on out.</p>
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		<title>By: Pit Bull Lover</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15245</link>
		<author>Pit Bull Lover</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 16:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15245</guid>
		<description>"Dr. Marty" considers Canidae kibble to be next-to-worst or one step above grocery store dogfood?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dr. Marty&#8221; considers Canidae kibble to be next-to-worst or one step above grocery store dogfood?</p>
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		<title>By: ally</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15237</link>
		<author>ally</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 16:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15237</guid>
		<description>Another interesting read regarding the ongoing problems with how the FDA operates &#38; is set up.  I posted this at the PC, but wanted to also share here.

Ag Weekly Online posted it on 5/5/07:
&lt;b&gt;FDA Knew of Problems in Plant, Farms Involved in Recent Outbreaks&lt;/b&gt;

By Elizabeth Williamson, The Washington Post

â€œThe Food and Drug Administration has known for years about contamination problems at a Georgia peanut butter plant and California spinach farms that led to disease outbreaks that killed three people, sickened hundreds, and forced one of the biggest product recalls in U.S. history, documents and interviews show.

Overwhelmed by huge growth in the number of food processors and imports, however, the agency took only limited steps to address the problems and relied on producers to police themselves, according to agency documents.â€

Wow. Thatâ€™s very reassuring, innit? Hold me back.

â€œCongressional critics and consumer advocates said both episodes show that the agency is incapable of adequately protecting the safety of the food supply.â€

Ya donâ€™t say. Gee, what was your first clue?
Moving onâ€¦:

â€œTuesday, the House Energy and Commerce committee will hold a hearing into the unprecedented spate of recalls, including the more recent contamination of pet food with melamine, which has been blamed for the deaths of dozens of pets.â€

Itâ€™s a step. But we definitely need a heck of alot more steps to get with the program to ensure this type if catastrophe never occurs again. Steps are one thing, but an all out precision drill team routine is in order at this juncture in the game.

â€œThis administration does not like regulation, this administration does not like spending money, and it has a hostility toward government. The poisonous result is that a program like the FDA is going to suffer at every turn of the road,â€ said Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich.â€

Re: the recent hog problem:

â€œFDA notified California state health officials that hogs on a farm in the state had likely eaten feed laced with melamine, an industrial chemical blamed for the deaths of dozens of pets in recent weeks.â€

And finally, the article addresses the lack of enough funds for the FDA to properly do its job (why am I not surprised?):

â€œIn next yearâ€™s budget,â€¦[snip]â€¦Congress has voted FDA a $10 million increase to improve food safetyâ€¦.The Agriculture Department, which monitors meat, poultry and eggs and keeps inspectors in every processing plant, got an increase 10 times that amount to help pay for its inspection programs. The FDA visits problem food plants about once a year, the rest far less frequentlyâ€¦.â€

Anyone else see a glaring problem here? Or am I just having another Homer moment?

Note this FDA budget increase was due to human food contamination, not pet food. Probably because the pet food recall came later, but stillâ€¦â€¦wtf?! Think that budget needs to be amended if it hasnâ€™t already?!

You can read the entire article here:
http://tinyurl.com/2g67wt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another interesting read regarding the ongoing problems with how the FDA operates &amp; is set up.  I posted this at the PC, but wanted to also share here.</p>
<p>Ag Weekly Online posted it on 5/5/07:<br />
<b>FDA Knew of Problems in Plant, Farms Involved in Recent Outbreaks</b></p>
<p>By Elizabeth Williamson, The Washington Post</p>
<p>â€œThe Food and Drug Administration has known for years about contamination problems at a Georgia peanut butter plant and California spinach farms that led to disease outbreaks that killed three people, sickened hundreds, and forced one of the biggest product recalls in U.S. history, documents and interviews show.</p>
<p>Overwhelmed by huge growth in the number of food processors and imports, however, the agency took only limited steps to address the problems and relied on producers to police themselves, according to agency documents.â€</p>
<p>Wow. Thatâ€™s very reassuring, innit? Hold me back.</p>
<p>â€œCongressional critics and consumer advocates said both episodes show that the agency is incapable of adequately protecting the safety of the food supply.â€</p>
<p>Ya donâ€™t say. Gee, what was your first clue?<br />
Moving onâ€¦:</p>
<p>â€œTuesday, the House Energy and Commerce committee will hold a hearing into the unprecedented spate of recalls, including the more recent contamination of pet food with melamine, which has been blamed for the deaths of dozens of pets.â€</p>
<p>Itâ€™s a step. But we definitely need a heck of alot more steps to get with the program to ensure this type if catastrophe never occurs again. Steps are one thing, but an all out precision drill team routine is in order at this juncture in the game.</p>
<p>â€œThis administration does not like regulation, this administration does not like spending money, and it has a hostility toward government. The poisonous result is that a program like the FDA is going to suffer at every turn of the road,â€ said Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich.â€</p>
<p>Re: the recent hog problem:</p>
<p>â€œFDA notified California state health officials that hogs on a farm in the state had likely eaten feed laced with melamine, an industrial chemical blamed for the deaths of dozens of pets in recent weeks.â€</p>
<p>And finally, the article addresses the lack of enough funds for the FDA to properly do its job (why am I not surprised?):</p>
<p>â€œIn next yearâ€™s budget,â€¦[snip]â€¦Congress has voted FDA a $10 million increase to improve food safetyâ€¦.The Agriculture Department, which monitors meat, poultry and eggs and keeps inspectors in every processing plant, got an increase 10 times that amount to help pay for its inspection programs. The FDA visits problem food plants about once a year, the rest far less frequentlyâ€¦.â€</p>
<p>Anyone else see a glaring problem here? Or am I just having another Homer moment?</p>
<p>Note this FDA budget increase was due to human food contamination, not pet food. Probably because the pet food recall came later, but stillâ€¦â€¦wtf?! Think that budget needs to be amended if it hasnâ€™t already?!</p>
<p>You can read the entire article here:<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/2g67wt" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2g67wt</a></p>
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		<title>By: mal</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15231</link>
		<author>mal</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 15:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15231</guid>
		<description>Sorry link above does not seem to be working:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_john_r_m_070506_china_is_poisoning_t.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry link above does not seem to be working:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_john_r_m_070506_china_is_poisoning_t.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.opednews.com/articl.....ning_t.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: mal</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15230</link>
		<author>mal</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 15:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15230</guid>
		<description>GOOD ARTICLE:

China IS poisoning the Worldâ€¦â€¦Literally 

â€œChina is giving us a firsthand look at what happens when America exports unregulated capitalism to the rest of the world. Republicans and Libertarians alike believe that capitalism can be self-regulating in the absence of government oversight. China and other developing capitalist countries prove this notion completely false.

Republicans and Libertarians want to further deregulate American industry while simultaneously dismantling oversight agencies such as the FDA and the USDA. If they canâ€™t eliminate these agencies, they will de-fund them and staff them with corporate cronies.

It is likely that the recent revelations about tainted pet food and now tainted pharmaceuticals are just the tip of the iceberg. The diethylene glycol contamination from China has been going on since at least 1992 without being disclosed to the general public. It seems very likely that many more such incidences of food and drug contamination have gone unreported as yet. 

It is also interesting to note that glycerin is a common ingredient in certain pet foods and that diethylene glycol causes kidney failure as in the case of the recent pet poisonings. It would be useful, I think, for the FDA to test tainted pet foods for the presence of this toxic solvent.

Republicans and Libertarians beware of what you wish for, you just might just reap the â€œbenefitsâ€ of unregulated capitalism in your childâ€™s next bottle of cough syrup.â€

http://www.opednews.com/articl.....ning_t.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOOD ARTICLE:</p>
<p>China IS poisoning the Worldâ€¦â€¦Literally </p>
<p>â€œChina is giving us a firsthand look at what happens when America exports unregulated capitalism to the rest of the world. Republicans and Libertarians alike believe that capitalism can be self-regulating in the absence of government oversight. China and other developing capitalist countries prove this notion completely false.</p>
<p>Republicans and Libertarians want to further deregulate American industry while simultaneously dismantling oversight agencies such as the FDA and the USDA. If they canâ€™t eliminate these agencies, they will de-fund them and staff them with corporate cronies.</p>
<p>It is likely that the recent revelations about tainted pet food and now tainted pharmaceuticals are just the tip of the iceberg. The diethylene glycol contamination from China has been going on since at least 1992 without being disclosed to the general public. It seems very likely that many more such incidences of food and drug contamination have gone unreported as yet. </p>
<p>It is also interesting to note that glycerin is a common ingredient in certain pet foods and that diethylene glycol causes kidney failure as in the case of the recent pet poisonings. It would be useful, I think, for the FDA to test tainted pet foods for the presence of this toxic solvent.</p>
<p>Republicans and Libertarians beware of what you wish for, you just might just reap the â€œbenefitsâ€ of unregulated capitalism in your childâ€™s next bottle of cough syrup.â€</p>
<p><a href="http://www.opednews.com/articl.....ning_t.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.opednews.com/articl&#8230;..ning_t.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: susanUnPC</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15221</link>
		<author>susanUnPC</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 14:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/recall-update-sunday-2-642#comment-15221</guid>
		<description>China Poisons the World (Republicans Help) 
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/6/82555/43538

DrSteveB has written a smart, passionate story today, taking off from my story of yesterday, about our need for strong regulation.  It's a great read, as are the comments.

DrSteveB also tells a story of his work in monitoring an outbreak in Nigeria from tainted medicines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China Poisons the World (Republicans Help)<br />
<a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/6/82555/43538" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/6/82555/43538</a></p>
<p>DrSteveB has written a smart, passionate story today, taking off from my story of yesterday, about our need for strong regulation.  It&#8217;s a great read, as are the comments.</p>
<p>DrSteveB also tells a story of his work in monitoring an outbreak in Nigeria from tainted medicines.</p>
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