My cats eat Blue Spa Select dry cat food and Wellness canned, which I’ve been feeding them for about two years. I am confident in these companies, as well as many other holistic lines that are often mentioned here (Eagle, Merrick, Solid Gold). I’m not entirely convinced that the recalls are over, which is why a check this site every few days. However, its more out of curiosity about other foods, and not the ones I’m feeding.

My point about overreacting is that there seems to be a general consensus among people that comment here that there is some sort of conspiracy going on, which I do not think is the case. That is not to say that I think it’s impossible for there to be more recalls. However, just because one pet has an adverse reaction to a food, that is not an indication that the food should be recalled.

If you are so convinced that everyone is rigorously testing their product, why the need to come here because you are not convinced there wont be more recalls, your statements contradict themselves. And why would that explain a vet and pet parent testing Nutro food that was not on the recall list after the first recall on 3-16, only to find out it was contaminated resulting in it being put on the recall list on 4-11 and many other foods continually being put on the recall list months afterwards. I also tried to tell them about the food and just got ignored. Im glad you have that confidence the food is safe but I dont and I question if you really feel that way if you have the need to come here to check. I dont know if you have Itchmo’s auto food recall notices sent to your e:mail addy? If not, that might be a good thing to do.

You indicate that the pet food companies wouldnt purposely add these toxins to the food as it would hurt their business and while that may be true, you can bet that once some of these companies found the toxins in their food, they did not do what they could to pull the product off the shelf immediately and even delayed doing so while they were scrambling to figure out how to deal with it so it wouldnt hurt their profit. There are many cases where it has been found they knew about contamination but did not reveal it until FDA or a private vet discovered it, at which point they had no choice. In the meantime, pets ate the food and became ill or died.

Im very glad your pets did not come into contact with any tainted food but that is not the case with many on this site. Im curious, what food do you feed your pets? You say you dont feed Science Diet, Euk/Iams, anything made by Purina or Delmonte, any ‘grocery brands’, etc. That rules out alot of foods that people normally bought before the recall, so Im curious what you feed them?

I’m sorry to hear about your dog. I may have not made myself clear: I do not think that every food is fine. I personally would never feed Science Diet, Euk/Iams, anything made by Purina or Delmonte, any ‘grocery brands’, etc. This is not because I think that they are secretly contaminated, but simply because I think they are poor quality foods lacking nutritional value. I read the ingredient label on every bag, can or pouch that someone recommends that I feed my pet, and I know what ingredients to look for and what ones to avoid. Malnutrition as well as allergies to sub-par products can cause the symptoms you described, and would explain why your dog is doing better on a homemade diet.

And, yes, petslave, I do check here because I am not convinced that there won’t be more recalls. However, I do think that the FDA and PFI are doing everything they can to find out if anything else is contaminated. I do not think that companies are ignoring test results because they want to make money. From a business standpoint, it wouldn’t make sense for them to knowingly poison their customer base.

And Lorie, you have no reason to feel bad for my cats. They are healthier and more spoiled than most people’s children. I have kept up on the recall info because I am concerned about what has happened, I just think that some people here have taken it a bit too far when they start to accuse the pet food companies of purposely selling poisonous foods and not caring about the ramifications.

For real?

Or are you saying this is who THEY are now using??????!

Sorry, I was a little confused reading that post, to say the least :-D

or is someone on the other side eavesdropping

I just did a google search for anymore articles on that mess in Leesburg and no new news so far. I will keep you posted.

Kim,

She had the vet call an oncologist while the cat was under sedation and they said chemo would by 6 mos at best for about 3K and it would be very risky because of the location of the jaw and it has all ready eaten threw most of the jaw bone. Plus he is 11 years old.

I still say the radiocat procedure he had done for his thyroid a couple years ago caused the cancer.

I didn’t do that, and found out only when it was too late that laser surgery - which I never knew was even available for cats - would probably have saved my Bozo.

I mention this because the laser surgeon specifically talked about an example where he’d removed a large portion of a cat’s jaw.

Thanks for the info. Hope kitties stay on the road to recovery, along with mine and everyone else who have suvived this ordeal. Now we just have to hope we make the right choices with the crap we have left to choose from.

We Are here to open the Door and let All the Light Shine on it, this disgraceful and disgusting methods of practices that has allowed these Pet Food companies to get away with THIS! It should have Never happen. {it should not Yet be going on!}

Settling Down just let’s it continue until the Next time.
There ARE Poisons in the pet foods. Un-recalled pet foods.

Heck the FDA employees Tell/told US to test *our own* Pet foods!
{and Now Rejects, the Results????!} HUH?!

The recent furor these companies state in regards to Testing, Should have been doing it all along. And Now had Better be doing it PROPERLY. Proper equipment and proper perimeters! Not just once but MANY times in the Entire process!

That means some serious Invvestment in a Lab with Real chemists in it, the Most sensitive Equipment or Shipping to a Acredited Lab with the same, doing the testing.

Hopefully we can get a statement {the guide questions} from a Lab, to write down, who does it RIGHT and then have that be our guide, to Asking food companies to compare with it.

“Yeah we test for melamine and cyanruric acid” is NO answer IMHO. Not at all.

It’s all in the details and diligences of the tester, and the equipment used.

We’ve already heard how one Lab finds something and another did not. If that’s due to the sensitivity of the testing, if it’s a Yes, Just how good is the Yes?

Is that going to Help Us down the road?

You can’t just glean the Recall lists these days and Truly be Safe. Or undrstand what hs bee going on the Entire time. IMHO
I also don’t think one could Add much in conversation, about the Safety factor, unless you invest more in the Whole Loooooong Picture.

And *those folks* don’t really understand a Recall process either.
WHO do they think the complaints Come from to try to get a Company to even check???
And FDA sure can’t help there! Not an ounce of power unless it’s Baby formula.

I got a cat Not a Baby!

And Who knows what it takes to get a Company, let’s say, like Purina; to CHECK to even Start the Recall process, IF it’s Not discovered by the company on their own that, they’ve got a Problem?

Not listening, not bothering to do it All properly in Checking, Real testing and then Honest Disclosure is Neligence, not owning Up is too, Imho.

Lack of Honesty and diligence is what we’ve been dealing with. Period.

Settle down? That won’t get a thing done in this business as we’ve found. Be good little citizen and shut up? That surely won’t fix it.

Who has learned, *been taught by the very people* we are Dealing with, on just HOW to handle THIS?
Taught us well.
Like for like. As hard as they say No, We say YES!

Who’s been good students to the Pet Food Industry?

US. And it’s a B_T_H!
But We ain’t Quitin’ til We become the Teachers!

Hacoona, my cat who had the seizure, was eating the same food as everyone, including some of the recalled Nutro. In March, her blood and urine were all normal but she needed dental work. Follow up vet tests in the middle of May showed all normal blood work but she was thin and so the vet did not want to do the surgery. She had a seizure on Memorial Day weekend and although recovered from it, still has the twitches. She eats Merrick, Artemis, Evangers, sometimes Halo and begs for “people food” when we eat, so she also gets some of our chicken, and some of my boyfriend’s steak (organic, antibiotic/pesticide/hormone free meat). After she eats meat, she seems pretty content. She has had IBD for years.

Peaches, who has kidney stones, loved it. She eats mostly Halo now, but also eats some Artemis, Evangers and Merrick. She is healthy except for the kidney stones and she also gets clavamox regularly to keep her from getting UTIs.

Maggie, had a UTI after eating the Nutro - she also use to vomit regularly in the morning after eating just the gravy from the Nutro. Her urine is okay now. She eats Merrick, Artemis, Evangers, and sometimes some Halo. Her biggest health problem is she gets bad breath.

Note to Purringfur - thanks for the food name, I will look for the Solid Gold Blended Tuna.

Companies that are in the business of making food (pet or human) should NEVER (or very rarely) have to recall products.

The fact that many large contract companies have recalled hundreds of products indicates that the pet food industry has a HUGE SYSTEMATIC PROBLEM.

CEO’s have a responsibility to ENSURE that ROBUST QUALITY CONTROL PROCESSES exist which make such recalls unnecessary.

Just because companies can’t test for everything doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t test for some things.

Determining what testing is necessary requires a through knowledge of your industry combined with proper risk analysis.

ChemNutra, “the China experts”, apparently weren’t experts at knowing that spiking vegetable protein is common industry practice. The US companies who switched to a new supplier should have understood the risks and modified their business practices accordingly.

IMHO, US companies (Hill’s, IAM’s, Natural Balance, etc.) that outsourced to contract companies (Menu, Diamond) and then put their pet food business on “auto pilot” are negligent in the extreme.

The CEO of MENU, Mr. Henderson has an annual salary of $460K (Can). Might be a good thing if he used some of it to go back to school and study manufacturing engineering.

http://stocks.us.reuters.com/s.....1-Officers

The “shock and awe” of these guys is just disgusting.