Comments on: Report From PETA Shows 97% Of Animals In Their Care In 2006 Euthanized http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542 Essential news for cats, dogs and pet owners. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:59:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: David http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-256259 David Wed, 29 Jul 2009 05:40:06 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-256259 'we are a “shelter of last resort,”' What gets me is that the IRS recognized non-profit with a multi-million dollar budget aspires to be no more than a shelter of last resort. But I wont bash Peta. Instead, I just choose not to support them, or any high kill facility, for that matter. If PETA outrages you, then SUPPORT a good NO-KILL shelter, and if theyre all volunteer....all the better. ‘we are a “shelter of last resort,”’

What gets me is that the IRS recognized non-profit with a multi-million dollar budget aspires to be no more than a shelter of last resort.

But I wont bash Peta. Instead, I just choose not to support them, or any high kill facility, for that matter.
If PETA outrages you, then SUPPORT a good NO-KILL shelter, and if theyre all volunteer….all the better.

]]> By: Vikke http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-126395 Vikke Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:42:10 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-126395 Please do not support this murderous group of hypocrites. I'm a long-time animal activist, advocate & rescuer. I've been veg for 24+ yrs. I used to respect & admire PeTA. I cannot forgive PeTA for KILLING helpless animals. I know they've done a lot for animals in general (understatement), but they can't save animals w/ one hand & kill them w/ the other. How is it they think other people/animal experimenters/slaughterhouse workers/fur trappers, etc etc should not kill animals but it's ok for PeTA to kill them? They must be retarded to think that no one would notice this hypocrisy & not find it patently ridiculous. For PeTA to claim these animals were ALL beyond rehabilitation & death was the only humane option is also an insult to the intelligence of anyone in rescue & anyone who's found a hungry stray or taken in an abused animal. Actually, to any reasonable person. They've become quite insane & it's sickening to think they're trying to have it both ways. I think they actually believe death is preferable than living under the dominion of humans even as a cherished pet. The 2 morally bankrupt PeTA employees who were found to have killed all those animal in NC & dumped them - those animals were totally adoptable. PeTA called for the killing of the Vick dogs (as did the HSUS) & disparaged Best Friends (who took 22 of the dogs & is successfully caring for them & rehabbing some) a "so-called sanctuary". See http://blogs.bestfriends.org/blogs/bestfriends/archive/2008/02/15/seppi-talks-turkey-to-those-who-say-kill-the-dogs.aspx They've clearly never been there & are totally opposed to the wonderful life-saving work BF & rescues/sanctuaries do. See http://www.peta.org/about/numbers.asp for PeTA's financial report. "Total Operating Expenses - $30,959,406" - I THINK they can afford to house, rehabilitate & adopt out the 3000+/- animals they kill ea year. They could start w/ a www.petfinder.com account, which is free. I find it hard to comprehend that they only adopted out 8 dogs & 2 cats in an entire year. And that their kill rate is HIGHER than the average kill shelter - it's a disgrace that an ANIMAL RIGHTS ORGANIZATION w/ their resources has a higher kill rate than average. That is unacceptable. If a small fry like me can save animals on a shoe string budget, like MANY people & rescues do, there's no reason why PeTA can't do it. Several horribly-run high-kill shelters have been turned around & gone no kill very successfully. All it takes is commitment to saving animals (duh!). PeTA needs to get with the No Kill movement pronto - see http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org More info: http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/resourcelibrary/nokillindex.cf m See all files/info on Nathan Winograd & files under COMMUNITY-WIDE NO-KILL PROGRAMS Plus, PeTA is OPPOSED to TNR & prefers that all feral cats are KILLED. I'm aware of all the PeTA-hating groups & have seen their sites. They hate PeTA for the wrong reasons. I'm not among them & I don't hate PeTA, but I still haven't found the right word for how I feel about PeTA. Betrayed, shocked, disgusted, horrified, repulsed, insulted, outraged... They need to clean up their act pronto if they want to salvage their credibility. Just a few thoughts! Vikke CATS RULE! Feline Rescue >^..^ Please do not support this murderous group of hypocrites.

I’m a long-time animal activist, advocate & rescuer. I’ve been veg for 24+ yrs. I used to respect & admire PeTA.

I cannot forgive PeTA for KILLING helpless animals. I know they’ve done a lot for animals in general (understatement), but they can’t save animals w/ one hand & kill them w/ the other. How is it they think other people/animal experimenters/slaughterhouse workers/fur trappers, etc etc should not kill animals but it’s ok for PeTA to kill them? They must be retarded to think that no one would notice this hypocrisy & not find it patently ridiculous.

For PeTA to claim these animals were ALL beyond rehabilitation & death was the only humane option is also an insult to the intelligence of anyone in rescue & anyone who’s found a hungry stray or taken in an abused animal. Actually, to any reasonable person.

They’ve become quite insane & it’s sickening to think they’re trying to have it both ways. I think they actually believe death is preferable than living under the dominion of humans even as a cherished pet. The 2 morally bankrupt PeTA employees who were found to have killed all those animal in NC & dumped them - those animals were totally adoptable.

PeTA called for the killing of the Vick dogs (as did the HSUS) & disparaged Best Friends (who took 22 of the dogs & is successfully caring for them & rehabbing some) a “so-called sanctuary”. See http://blogs.bestfriends.org/b.....-dogs.aspx
They’ve clearly never been there & are totally opposed to the wonderful life-saving work BF & rescues/sanctuaries do.

See http://www.peta.org/about/numbers.asp for PeTA’s financial report. “Total Operating Expenses - $30,959,406″ - I THINK they can afford to house, rehabilitate & adopt out the 3000+/- animals they kill ea year. They could start w/ a www.petfinder.com account, which is free.

I find it hard to comprehend that they only adopted out 8 dogs & 2 cats in an entire year. And that their kill rate is HIGHER than the average kill shelter - it’s a disgrace that an ANIMAL RIGHTS ORGANIZATION w/ their resources has a higher kill rate than average. That is unacceptable.

If a small fry like me can save animals on a shoe string budget, like MANY people & rescues do, there’s no reason why PeTA can’t do it. Several horribly-run high-kill shelters have been turned around & gone no kill very successfully. All it takes is commitment to saving animals (duh!). PeTA needs to get with the No Kill movement pronto - see http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org
More info: http://www.bestfriends.org/nom.....llindex.cf m
See all files/info on Nathan Winograd & files under COMMUNITY-WIDE NO-KILL PROGRAMS

Plus, PeTA is OPPOSED to TNR & prefers that all feral cats are KILLED.

I’m aware of all the PeTA-hating groups & have seen their sites. They hate PeTA for the wrong reasons. I’m not among them & I don’t hate PeTA, but I still haven’t found the right word for how I feel about PeTA. Betrayed, shocked, disgusted, horrified, repulsed, insulted, outraged… They need to clean up their act pronto if they want to salvage their credibility.

Just a few thoughts!

Vikke
CATS RULE! Feline Rescue >^..^

]]> By: Patty http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-113105 Patty Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:43:28 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-113105 Are there statistics for 2005? I know PETA had Katrina dogs and would love to know how many were returned to owners or euthanized. Are there statistics for 2005? I know PETA had Katrina dogs and would love to know how many were returned to owners or euthanized.

]]> By: MM http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-111995 MM Sat, 26 Jan 2008 04:15:16 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-111995 I just do not believe that PETA is the only option for these animals. I foster dogs, and the group of folks that I work with don't always agree with the guidelines of our parent organization, so we formed our own 501(c)3 to take in the animals that would be rejected by the parent group. So we keep the dogs that are old, have NLT health problems, and are generally considered unadoptable. For those animals that do have life-threatening health problems, we put them in a home where they will be loved and have a good life until the time comes to put them down; we try to give them one good season of play at the least. The supposition that these animals are surrendered to PETA because there is 'no one else' is purely spin and completely false. Any shelter or animal control agency in this country would put that animal down post haste. All one would have to do is say it bit someone, and people do it all the time. Don't be fooled. PETA would like to see an end to ALL human-animal interaction, and any statement to the contrary is a bald-faced lie. I just do not believe that PETA is the only option for these animals. I foster dogs, and the group of folks that I work with don’t always agree with the guidelines of our parent organization, so we formed our own 501(c)3 to take in the animals that would be rejected by the parent group. So we keep the dogs that are old, have NLT health problems, and are generally considered unadoptable. For those animals that do have life-threatening health problems, we put them in a home where they will be loved and have a good life until the time comes to put them down; we try to give them one good season of play at the least. The supposition that these animals are surrendered to PETA because there is ‘no one else’ is purely spin and completely false. Any shelter or animal control agency in this country would put that animal down post haste. All one would have to do is say it bit someone, and people do it all the time. Don’t be fooled. PETA would like to see an end to ALL human-animal interaction, and any statement to the contrary is a bald-faced lie.

]]> By: Amy http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110682 Amy Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:58:30 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110682 It seems to me that what a lot of people, in their anti-PETA rage are missing, is the fact that the animals that PETA has taken are animals that have been rejected by other facilities for adoption. Like PETA or not, they're very upfront about what they do and why they do it. If they were accepting adoptable animals and euthanizing them, they would be honest about it in their attempts to make a point of some sort. "PETA receives calls every week from people who request that we euthanize their animals because they cannot afford to have them euthanized by a vet or because the animals would suffer excessive stress and pain if transported. PETA will not turn its back on these animals simply because they might make our “numbers” look bad." They're admitting that they're not a shelter but that they're not going to turn animals in need away - especially from poor people who can't do right by them at the end of the lives. I think it's a safe bet that if these animals were healthy and adoptable, PETA wouldn't be afraid to say so! It seems to me that what a lot of people, in their anti-PETA rage are missing, is the fact that the animals that PETA has taken are animals that have been rejected by other facilities for adoption. Like PETA or not, they’re very upfront about what they do and why they do it. If they were accepting adoptable animals and euthanizing them, they would be honest about it in their attempts to make a point of some sort. “PETA receives calls every week from people who request that we euthanize their animals because they cannot afford to have them euthanized by a vet or because the animals would suffer excessive stress and pain if transported. PETA will not turn its back on these animals simply because they might make our “numbers” look bad.” They’re admitting that they’re not a shelter but that they’re not going to turn animals in need away - especially from poor people who can’t do right by them at the end of the lives. I think it’s a safe bet that if these animals were healthy and adoptable, PETA wouldn’t be afraid to say so!

]]> By: Don Earl http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110671 Don Earl Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:42:28 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110671 RE: "Don Earl - you’re an idiot and your comments did not frighten me, they repulsed me, as you do." I always consider the source. From you I consider that a complement. Thank you. RE: “Don Earl - you’re an idiot and your comments did not frighten me, they repulsed me, as you do.”

I always consider the source. From you I consider that a complement. Thank you.

]]> By: Jackie http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110659 Jackie Mon, 21 Jan 2008 14:35:22 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110659 Don Earl - you're an idiot and your comments did not frighten me, they repulsed me, as you do. Don Earl - you’re an idiot and your comments did not frighten me, they repulsed me, as you do.

]]> By: Pam http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110588 Pam Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:49:18 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110588 I got turned off by PETA a long time ago, but the anti-PETA zealotry is getting to be just as big of a turnoff to me now. It's starting to bring to mind anti-abortion type extremism seen in groups like Operation Rescue. If you don't like PETA - LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES! Don't mimic their holier-than-thou histrionic tactics, please. You'll end up churning even more donations for them. I am so sick of seeing PETA KILLS, PETA, PETA, PETA....AD NAUSEUM that I truly wonder about the motives and or stability of those seemingly obsessed by that organization. PETA mania is unconstructive and just gives them way too much free publicity, IMO. I got turned off by PETA a long time ago, but the anti-PETA zealotry is getting to be just as big of a turnoff to me now. It’s starting to bring to mind anti-abortion type extremism seen in groups like Operation Rescue.

If you don’t like PETA - LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES! Don’t mimic their holier-than-thou histrionic tactics, please. You’ll end up churning even more donations for them.

I am so sick of seeing PETA KILLS, PETA, PETA, PETA….AD NAUSEUM that I truly wonder about the motives and or stability of those seemingly obsessed by that organization.

PETA mania is unconstructive and just gives them way too much free publicity, IMO.

]]> By: Don Earl http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110565 Don Earl Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:19:21 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110565 RE: "the more I thought about your comparison the angrier I got" Good for you. Anger and fear are very close to the same emotion. So, what is it about my comparison that makes you afraid? Is it because the analogy is close enough to the mark to sting? Hitler and PETA kill for philosophical reasons. Hitler figured Jews were better off dead. PETA figures pets are better off dead. They both had a picture of a self created perfect society they believe they're justified in dictating to others. If you find the words offensive, the thing the words describe is worse. PS. From the article, quoting PETA: "we are a shelter of last resort" RE: “the more I thought about your comparison the angrier I got”

Good for you. Anger and fear are very close to the same emotion. So, what is it about my comparison that makes you afraid? Is it because the analogy is close enough to the mark to sting?

Hitler and PETA kill for philosophical reasons. Hitler figured Jews were better off dead. PETA figures pets are better off dead. They both had a picture of a self created perfect society they believe they’re justified in dictating to others.

If you find the words offensive, the thing the words describe is worse.

PS. From the article, quoting PETA: “we are a shelter of last resort”

]]> By: trucorgi http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110522 trucorgi Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:26:47 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110522 If you look at the stats Stray 28 Surrendered by Owner 3043 Others 6564 Seized 0 Bite Cases 0 on Hand 2 Received From Another Agency 0 Even if all the owner turn ins were elderly and or infirm, which is doubtful, it would only account for less than 1/3. What about the 6564 "others" and the 28 strays? Are they all the "dangerous" ones? Bites are 0. Seizures are 0. That takes care of the "dangerous situation" theory. I would be willing to bet that 0 are from laboratories and circuses. It is clear that you give them a pass for an inordinately high kill rate because you believe that they do "good" animal rights work. No one is attacking, just stating facts and their opinions drawn from them. If you look at the stats
Stray 28
Surrendered by Owner 3043
Others 6564
Seized 0
Bite Cases 0
on Hand 2
Received From Another Agency 0

Even if all the owner turn ins were elderly and or infirm, which is doubtful, it would only account for less than 1/3. What about the 6564 “others” and the 28 strays? Are they all the “dangerous” ones? Bites are 0. Seizures are 0. That takes care of the “dangerous situation” theory. I would be willing to bet that 0 are from laboratories and circuses. It is clear that you give them a pass for an inordinately high kill rate because you believe that they do “good” animal rights work. No one is attacking, just stating facts and their opinions drawn from them.

]]> By: trudyjackson http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110521 trudyjackson Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:23:23 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110521 Why don't some of you look up--PETA Kills Animals. And go to trial part. Read about the Whole trial. those animals were not in pain and they were very adoptive. I would have adoped them Myself if PETA hadn't lied to our face and then killed them. you need to get the facts. Why don’t some of you look up–PETA Kills Animals. And go to trial part. Read about the Whole trial. those animals were not in pain and they were very adoptive. I would have adoped them Myself if PETA hadn’t lied to our face and then killed them. you need to get the facts.

]]> By: Jackie http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110514 Jackie Mon, 21 Jan 2008 01:54:07 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110514 Don Earl - the more I thought about your comparison the angrier I got - how dare you!!! PETA did not torture those animals, experiment on them, starve them, burn them, or force their children to shoot their parents and then dig their graves. How dare you!! Don Earl - the more I thought about your comparison the angrier I got - how dare you!!! PETA did not torture those animals, experiment on them, starve them, burn them, or force their children to shoot their parents and then dig their graves. How dare you!!

]]> By: Jackie http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110507 Jackie Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:59:22 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110507 Very sorry about the multiple posts! Obviously I did something wrong when responding this last time. . . Very sorry about the multiple posts! Obviously I did something wrong when responding this last time. . .

]]> By: Jackie http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110503 Jackie Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:41:24 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110503 I did not call call PETA a shelter - please read a little more carefully Don Earl. They are an animal rights group and a pretty damn good one! Oh - aren't you the one in an earlier post who was trying to make strong arguments for hunting? It doesn't surprise me that you'd love to attack PETA for what they're trying to accomplish every chance you get! As I've already said - we don't know what condition the animals were in that PETA accepted. Nowhere on their site are they asking for animals to be turned into them. Nowhere on their phone message are they asking for animals to be turned into them. If they have accepted animals from people who no longer want them, I would bet that they are in dangerous situations or that they are elderly, infirm and/or dangerous. And why is it always the non-Jews who bring up the camps like that? I am Jewish and really resent the comparison! I did not call call PETA a shelter - please read a little more carefully Don Earl. They are an animal rights group and a pretty damn good one! Oh - aren’t you the one in an earlier post who was trying to make strong arguments for hunting? It doesn’t surprise me that you’d love to attack PETA for what they’re trying to accomplish every chance you get! As I’ve already said - we don’t know what condition the animals were in that PETA accepted. Nowhere on their site are they asking for animals to be turned into them. Nowhere on their phone message are they asking for animals to be turned into them. If they have accepted animals from people who no longer want them, I would bet that they are in dangerous situations or that they are elderly, infirm and/or dangerous. And why is it always the non-Jews who bring up the camps like that? I am Jewish and really resent the comparison!

]]> By: Jackie http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110498 Jackie Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:16:19 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/report-from-peta-shows-97-of-animals-in-their-care-in-2006-euthanized-4542#comment-110498 I did not call call PETA a shelter - please read a little more carefully Don Earl. They are an animal rights group and a pretty damn good one! Oh - aren't you the one in an earlier post who was sticking up for hunting? Aren't you the one who put no value on an animal's life if it wasn't a dog or cat? I seem to remember something very strange about your value system. . . I did not call call PETA a shelter - please read a little more carefully Don Earl. They are an animal rights group and a pretty damn good one! Oh - aren’t you the one in an earlier post who was sticking up for hunting? Aren’t you the one who put no value on an animal’s life if it wasn’t a dog or cat? I seem to remember something very strange about your value system. . .

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