NEW RECALL: Royal Canin USA Recalls Sensible Choice and Kasco Dry Foods
Royal Canin USA is recalling eight Sensible Choice dry dog food products and seven Kasco dry dog and cat food products. Royal Canin states small traces of melamine-related compound were found in the rice protein concentrate provided by Cereal Byproducts — through cross-contamination. This supplier received food marked as rice protein concentrate from the same source as Wilbur-Ellis.
This confirms today is Friday.
The full press release after the jump.
UPDATE: Since issuing the release, RC updated the date codes involved. The new info is: “products with Best By date codes between July 28, 2007 to April 30, 2008 are being voluntarily recalled.”
(Thanks Mike and Carol)
ST. CHARLES, Mo., May 11 /PRNewswire/ — Royal Canin USA is announcing
today the voluntary nationwide recall of eight Sensible Choice dry dog food
products and seven Kasco dry dog and cat food products.
This announcement is based on the company’s ongoing extensive review of
its manufacturing and quality assurance testing procedures, which
identified trace amounts of a melamine derivative from tainted Chinese rice
protein concentrate provided to the company by domestic ingredient supplier
Cereal Byproducts, headquartered in Illinois.
“We deeply regret the concern and anxiety this announcement today will
cause our loyal customers and the entire pet community,” Olivier Amice,
President and CEO of Royal Canin USA, said. “While a very limited number of
Sensible Choice and Kasco products in this recall tested positive for trace
levels of a melamine derivative, Royal Canin USA is voluntarily withdrawing
these products out of an abundance of caution and because we are fully
committed to the welfare of our customers’ pets.”
Royal Canin USA has no confirmed cases of melamine related illness in
pets eating Sensible Choice and Kasco products affected by this recall.
Last month, Royal Canin USA announced it will no longer use any Chinese
vegetable protein suppliers.
The following eight Sensible Choice dry dog food products and seven
Kasco dry dog and cat food products with date codes between July 28, 2006
to April 30, 2007 are being voluntarily recalled:
SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) (available in pet specialty stores nationwide)
– SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) Chicken and Rice Adult (Dry Dog Food)
– SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) Chicken and Rice Reduced (Dry Dog Food)
– SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) Lamb and Rice Reduced (Dry Dog Food)
– SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) Chicken and Rice Puppy (Dry Dog Food)
– SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) Chicken and Rice Large Breed Puppy (Dry Dog Food)
– SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) NATURAL BLEND Adult (Dry Dog Food)
– SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) NATURAL BLEND Senior (Dry Dog Food)
– SENSIBLE CHOICE(R) NATURAL BLEND Puppy (Dry Dog Food)
KASCO(R) (available in pet specialty stores nationwide)
– KASCO(R) Chunks (Dry Dog Food)
– KASCO(R) Hi Energy (Dry Dog Food)
– KASCO(R) Maintenance (Dry Dog Food)
– KASCO(R) Mealettes (Dry Dog Food)
– KASCO(R) Mini Chunks (Dry Dog Food)
– KASCO(R) Puppy (Dry Dog Food)
– KASCO(R) Cat (Dry Cat Food)
Based on today’s announcement, pet owners should stop feeding their
pets the eight Sensible Choice dry dog food products, seven Kasco dry dog
and dry cat food products listed. Pet owners should consult with a
veterinarian if they are concerned about the health of their pet.
The safety and nutritional quality of Royal Canin USA pet food is our
company’s top priority because we understand that the health of pets comes
first. Pet owners who have questions about the voluntary recall of Sensible
Choice and Kasco dry pet food products and other Royal Canin USA products
should call 1-800-513-0041 or visit our web site at
http://www.royalcanin.us.
All Sensible Choice and Kasco products have a satisfaction guarantee
and the company will refund or replace the diets that are part of this
recall announcement.
May 12th, 2007 at 10:52 pm
Genny, they probably just toss all the dead rats in the pet food to raise the protein level.
May 12th, 2007 at 10:54 pm
Oh Yeah…blah blah blah yada yada yada, My Own opinions :-þ
I forgot!
May 12th, 2007 at 11:00 pm
Homeopathy is powerful and unless my guts would be sitting in the middle of the streets, I wouldn’t want to be anywhere traditional medicine. Getting saliva and urine tested and all the different ways they have of working with your body in both science and the intuitiveness of the body is how I stay healthy. Parasitic and colon cleanses are part of my maintenance. And I agree about staying close to the earth. We eat far too many things we don’t need, just want. The whole pet food debacle is opening our eyes to many things and the vitamin industry is just the same. Cranking out pills for companys who know how to market. So many times, just the same garbage.
This is so much like watching New Orleans unfold and thinking #%$# this is my country?!?!? They have been left in the lurch in many ways but I’m hoping with this affecting the entire country the ground surge will make a difference. The ONLY good thing about these companys holding back on their recalls is that is keeps the issues fresh and harder to ignore. I’m sure there will be more. I’m just so sorry to the pet parents whose friends were the martyrs to help many in the future.
Keep printing out itchmo to share - good idea to just leave the sheets sitting on top of food at the larger pet food department store places and hope someone finds and uses them. We can still that can’t we? I was talking to a grocery cashier yesterday who thought it was still only 16 animals. Boy, did we talk!!
May 12th, 2007 at 11:02 pm
Helen,
So twisted but hilarious….and probably true. Hey, their profit margins go up with free additives.
May 12th, 2007 at 11:04 pm
Genny, they probably leave the door open at night so they can collect free rats to poison and toss in the food.
May 12th, 2007 at 11:07 pm
Helen,
STOP IT !!!! ( ;
May 12th, 2007 at 11:10 pm
Melamine seems to be a big issue (AND IT IS) however, the Cyanuric Acid appears to be found in higher levels.
http://www.avma.org/press/rele.....recall.asp
Analysis of the crystals in the kidneys of affected animals have revealed that they are approximately 70 percent cyanuric acid and 30 percent melamine, and are extremely insoluble. Furthermore, tests mixing melamine and cyanuric acid in samples of cat urine resulted in almost immediate formation of crystals that were identical to crystals found in the kidneys of affected animals. Two other melamine- related substances—ammelide and ammeline—may also play roles and are under investigation.
May 12th, 2007 at 11:15 pm
Genny, =:O Sorry. I keep thinking I am being sarcastic and then realize every icky thing I think up is already in the pet food. >:(
May 12th, 2007 at 11:16 pm
Martin:
I worked in animal industry and know for a fact that some companies, like Science Diet, give prizes to doctors for selling the most product. Walthams used to do the same but I’m not sure if they still do. I also worked at a place that did a food study on a group of dogs for a pet food company that I’d rather not name. It wasn’t anything horrible like you see on Iamscruelty.com but it was the pet food company’s way of writing a check for the work to be done on someone else’s animals. Point is, it’s all shady and unless your vet is a close friend I wouldn’t trust them too much.
Everyone should go with their gut and do regular blood work or urinalysis to make sure they’ re on the right path.
May 12th, 2007 at 11:22 pm
Helen,
A cynical sense of humor is a good thing. I try to laugh to keep from crying.
May 12th, 2007 at 11:23 pm
Hi April, I’ve done it before some with and without receipts. Just take in the food where you purchase it. And, explain niely that ue to the Recalls {or if your pet is having food issues nw} you’d like to return the unused portion and have your money back.
Tell them no amount of attempted convincing will change your mind. That, You can not trust commercial foods right now.
Many companies have a “guarentee” on the bags or cans. Do you see any? If it there then point that out to the store clercks. IF the clercks are a problem, ask for the manager or owner.
Right now, stores ARE taking foods back. And giving money back DUE To the recalls. They want your “future” business. :-P
IF that Fails. Call the Food company and ask them for a Refund and how to get it. Heck, ask THEM to Call the store and issue a refund by order from them.
Remember: No amount of convincing will work.! :-)
Hope that helps.
May 12th, 2007 at 11:41 pm
To Rose RE: Life’s Abundance
The food you’re recommending is HealthyPetNet’s Life’s Abundance. I have just ordered this food for my cat. I won’t order their wet food because it is made in a Menu plant. The dry looks good (and my cat gobbled up the sample), however, I still have concerns about this company. I sent them an e-mail asking if their ingredients were grown/raised in the US. They sent me back a ridiculous marketing form letter. I have e-mailed again, being very forthright about my concerns. Their manufacturer of dry food, Ohio Pet Foods, says on their website that all grains are grown in the US. I have asked HPN if they use OPF’s inventory of ingredients, or do they use their own suppliers. When I get a response, I’ll post the thread here. I want to like this company, but if they are going to hide behind marketing letters citing “proprietary info” I’m not going to continue with them.
May 13th, 2007 at 1:41 am
I have grace concerns re the recalls as many of the foods here in Australia are imported from the USA They are mainly sold by the vets and nothing has been done to inform the public of the probability of the likelyhood of contaminated food being sold for their much loved pets We also do not know if any of the ingredient with the false protein level has made its way to Australia The American companies should let us know if any of the foods have been exported to other countries
I thank Itchmo for keeping us informed
May 13th, 2007 at 2:12 am
I read this article about how cats NEED moisture with their food and feeding them dry food actually isn’t the best for them. Wet food is. Of course what you do feed your cats is up to you, but this article is VERY imformative so I thought I’d put the link up here for you all to read.
I have two cats though and one is addicted to dry food and she’s getting old so I don’t really want to stress her out by trying to get her to eat wet food. It’s hard enough trying to wean her off of Purina to Whiskas.
I just thought you all would like to read the article anyway, since so many of you are asking for information. Here is the link.
http://www.catinfo.org/#Learn_.....ient_Label
I myself will NOT feed my cats raw meat. Even the ASPCA doesn’t recommend it. There are some parasites and diseases they can get from it.
Again this is only my opinion. What you feed your cat is up to you. Just trying to keep up with the information giving.
Whiskers is a very picky eater herself, so I know the horrors of trying to get a kitty to eat good food when all they want is the junk. It’s really hard!
May 13th, 2007 at 2:19 am
Genny I think it is Karen who owes me the apology. She was trying to get me to go to the store, return the food I have, then go out and buy the food she recommended, and then acted like I didn’t care about my cats if I didn’t do so. She was extremely forceful which I did not appreciate, and even when I was obviously getting upset, she kept going. I think that can count as harrassment.
You are entitled to your opinion, as I am entitled to mine. I do not have to talk or listen to anyone I do not wish to.
May 13th, 2007 at 2:21 am
By the way it was to Karen I didn’t want to talk to anymore Genny, and I will not get into this with you. I have my rights.
May 13th, 2007 at 5:37 am
Mandy,
**IMO** you are displaying a very immature and nasty attitude towards people who are truly only TRYING to offer suggestions to help you. NOWHERE did Karen say you did not love your cats. NOWHERE was she MANDATING that you feed a certain food. NOWHERE was she saying you ABSOLUTELY MUST return the cat food.
Please go back and read her posts. Then read them again until you “get it”. She was merely offering you suggestions because you were whining about all your problems and what to safely feed your cats. If reading helpful infomation upsets you so terribly perhaps you shouldn’t be reading any of these blogs.
Since *YOU* stated your concern about products from China (isn’t that why we are all here?) and Karen told you Whiskas used them, again trying to be helpful and enlighten you to the fact that it’s mostly junk - same as the most others - you copped an ugly attitude towards her. No, Sweetie, I don’t think she owes you any appology. If anything, you should THANK HER for TRYING to help you with all her suggestions since you she obviously want get an appology out of you.
If you think what Karen did, offering helpful suggestions, “can count as harrassment” (oh, puh-leaze!) it’s no mystery why you have no friends.
……just my entitled opinion.
May 13th, 2007 at 5:42 am
Genny you and Karen are the only two people I have had any problems with on Itchmo whatsoever. I am choosing to ignore anything else you have to say. You are being insulting for no reason whatsoever and I will not take that. You do not have to insult someone to try to get your point across.
If anyone is being immature and having a nasty attitude here, it is you. So this is goodbye to you from me. To everyone else, hello and good morning.
May 13th, 2007 at 5:42 am
Mandy,
I’ve been following your conversations in this thread and just decided to speak up.
You certainly do have a right to pick and choose whose ideas you will follow up on. But
from where I sit, Karen was only trying to help, not trying to *force* you into anything.
Take Karen’s help or ignore it - that is your right, but please stop saying Karen was trying
to *force* something upon you. I just don’t see it that way.
May 13th, 2007 at 5:47 am
Mary Smith, when someone continues to try to get you to see things their way, that is trying to force them. That is all I am going to say about it. Period.
May 13th, 2007 at 5:49 am
Mandy = IGNORE
Mary Smith - Thank you. Exactly. I don’t know Karen but I can’t sit by and read Mandy be so rude to someone who is only trying to be helpful. Pitiful.
May 13th, 2007 at 5:49 am
Mandy, you were upset because I DIDN’T AGREE WITH YOU!!
There is a difference. I don’t let my problems drag me down. I’ve dug myself out of homelessness, w/o car, and managed to obtain apartment, car - while having various medical conditions - all while maintaining my cats (I payed someone from my disability to take care of the cats while I was homeless for 5 months - but I had regular visitations).
I post on many forums - Cingular, EBays Discussion Forums (stay away from the Paypal and T&S boards - you would definitely be under stress then ;-). People disagree. Its not a crime, I was just pointing out better alternatives (I found a way - I was hoping to just enlighten a little bit).
You have a good day.
May 13th, 2007 at 5:59 am
Karen, I was upset because I am not going to dump the food I have and run out to buy everything everyone suggests I buy. Karen it was obvious I was getting upset but you kept trying to press your point anyway. The only reason I even said so much about my life is because I was trying to point out to you the difficulty I would have trying to always get something new. I told you to back off because you just would NOT stop.
You can all be immature and insult and ignore me if you wish. I don’t care. It is more rude to keep going at someone then for a person to tell you to back off when that person is obviously getting very upset.
Ganging up on a person with depression problems? How juvenile. If I have to I will simply go to a different thread.
Now I no longer wish to talk about this. You can all keep bringing it up if you wish, but I’m done. My opinion is different from yours. I see things the way I see it, and I am not changing my mind. I do not take being ganged up on, and people have e-mailed ME to apologize about YOUR behavior.
May 13th, 2007 at 6:06 am
This is a discussion thread. Its not a group meeting, with therapist. It is not a substitute for life. You’re the one that keeps insulting me, I haven’t called you a single name. No Juvenile (and yes, I have depression from 24 years of a neurologic disorder).
What I will say, is that you are using your condition as an excuse for everything. I don’t. I try to do. I didn’t even call you a whiner (okay, this has got to stop). You seem to want to goad me - but I will not be thrashed continuously at 47 by a yungin with the need for adaptation.
May 13th, 2007 at 6:17 am
Karen,
What a wonderful story! I’m so happy you managed to pull youself out of a very depressing and surely frightful situation. What you must have sacrificed for your cats and how you must have missed not having them with you to comfort you through that journey. What we do for them!
I knew there was a reason I felt strongly compelled to cheer you on before. I just didn’t know what that reason was.
That’s no joke about Ebay’s Paypal Discussion Boards, eh. Pretty scary stuff on that one.
You have a wonderful Mother’s Day!
May 13th, 2007 at 6:21 am
*Just ignores Karen and will from now on.*
Everyone I apologize for all the arguing. I am stopping it right now. If anyone else wants to argue, they can argue with themselves. Moving on.
Did anyone ever find the safe food list that the ASPCA approved of? If so, I’d be very greatful if they could post the link. I know other people were trying to find it too.
May 13th, 2007 at 6:58 am
Okay, you may ignore.
But here is the list that everyone is talking about (it is not on the ASPCA site - the Pet Food FAQ is sponsored by Iams, so they can’t objectively compile a list without stepping on some toes).
The food is in three lists: The Red lists companies with Recalls, the black not. They include manufacturers, etc.
http://www.thepetfoodlist.com/
May 13th, 2007 at 7:13 am
This is a little bit long, but I’m just trying to find a good safe wholesome food for my 3 Dobermans. I am looking at Orijen. I can have it shipped to me. I have listed all ingredients, what do you think????? Please I need feedback as I don’t know which way to turn at this point……..
Instead of grain, ORIJEN contains a full complement of regional fruits and vegetables (minimum 30%) that supply important natural antioxidants and phytochemicals.
Chicken, flax, sunflower, salmon and anchovy oils provide the essential fatty acids that dogs cannot produce themselves (including DHA and EPA) and are so important to nutritionally support the development of cell membranes, immune systems and a vibrant skin and hair coat.
Bridging the gap between good nutrition and total physical well-being, ORIJEN Adult contains native botanicals that include marshmallow, burdock and chicory root, stinging nettle and milk thistle,— all of which replicate the natural canine diet and help to soothe, nourish and tone the digestive tract, strengthen the liver and control insulin levels.
Check our ingredients and we think you’ll agree: Biologically Appropriate ORIJEN is a natural and delicious way to ensure the health and vitality of your Adult dog - no matter what his breed, age or size.
Ingredients:
Fresh Regional Ingredients - Fresh chicken meat, chicken meal (low ash), turkey meal, steamed russet potato, fresh-caught Northern Whitefish, chicken fat, fresh whole eggs, salmon meal, salmon and anchovy oils, tapioca, chicken broth, sunflower oil, flaxseed, Atlantic kelp, steamed carrots, spinach, peas and tomatoes, sun-cured alfalfa, apple fiber, psyllium seed, rosemary extract, yeast extract (MOS), glucosamine HCl, cranberries, black currants, chondroitin sulfate.
Tonic Herbs and Botanicals - Chicory, burdock and marshmallow root (FOS), rosehips, stinging nettle, marigold flowers, L-carnitine, fennel seed, chamomile flowers, milk thistle, chickweed, summer savory.
Organic Minerals - Iron proteinate, zinc proteinate, manganese proteinate, copper proteinate.
Probiotic Microorganisms - Lactobacillus acidophilus, Lactobacillus casei, Bifidobacterium (B. bifidus), Saccharomyces (S. boulardii).
Premium Vitamins - Mixed tocopherols (source of vitamin E), choline chloride, vitamin A, vitamin D3, niacin, riboflavin, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin B12, folic acid, biotin, pyridoxine (source of vitamin B6).
Guaranteed Analysis
Protein 40.0% (min.)
Fat 16.0% (max.)
Carbohydrate 16.0% (min.)
Moisture 10.0% (max.)
Fiber 3.0% (max.)
Calcium 1.6% (min.)
Phosphorus 1.4% (min.)
Omega-6 2.0% (min.)
Omega-3 0.7% (min.)
Glucosamine 500 mg/kg (min.)
Chondroitin 150 mg/kg (min.)
Microorganisms 40M cfu/kg Botanical Inclusions
Marshmallow root 500 mg/kg
Chicory root 500 mg/kg
Stinging nettle 400 mg/kg
Burdock root 350 mg/kg
Fennel seed 300 mg/kg
Marigold flowers 300 mg/kg
Chamomile flowers 300 mg/kg
Milk thistle 200 mg/kg
Summer savory 150 mg/kg
Chickweed 150 mg/kg
May 13th, 2007 at 7:46 am
IS PURINIA DRY CAT FOOD IS IT SAFE FOR MY FOUR SWEET CATS?
IS PURNIA DRY DOG FOOD SAFE FOR MY DOG?
PLEAS ANWERS MY QUESTION.
May 13th, 2007 at 8:00 am
Chloe - here is the Purina link. USA has had some recalls; not Canada it seems. Not sure where you live.
http://purina.com/
May 13th, 2007 at 8:16 am
A lot of people have been saying that Purina made their pets sick, even the ones not on the recall. I took my cats off Purina because it was making one of them throw up regularly, and I got worried. I do know though, that not all pets react the same to the same foods.
I can’t honestly tell you if it’s safe or not, I’m sorry. I just know that it isn’t right for MY cats.
Sometimes pets are allergic to an ingredient in the food, or something. Sometimes the food might just be bad. I don’t know. I DO know that people have said when their pets got sick, they called Purina and were given evasive answers, and that Purina buys grains from China to put in their foods.
I’m sorry I can’t be more helpful than that. Really no matter what anyone says in the end we all have to make the choice what we feed our fur babies. It’s a very scary time for pet owners right now.
May 13th, 2007 at 8:47 am
Good Morning!! This recall situation is nerve racking to say the lease for two reasons: 1. Just when you think its over, they roll out another recall, so there fore it leads one two believe nothing on the “non-recalled” list is safe. 2. Everyone feels that what they are feeding is better, safer, etc, which leads to more confusion. These people are correct. People have done their research, found out what is safe, and what their pets like, and food ABC is working for them. I have had bad experiences with Purina which I fed for years. Doggybling and howl911 have more info on that. The best we can all do is research the foods and call the companies the besgt that we can. Then see which of their foods your animal will eat. Becasue if they aren’t going to eat it, whay buy it. If you have a cat like mine, make an administrative decision and disguise it under tuna flakes until she gets used to it. Hope this helps…
May 13th, 2007 at 9:03 am
I have been watching this thread and notice a post referring to liver failure.
I had a part Siamese kitten die in January due to her liver failing. She was barely a year old.
Her diet was Purina One Kitten and Whiskas in the pouch. (I didn’t know about the grains being so bad for cats at the time.) The vet assumed she had feline leukemia…didn’t do the test and gave her a week to live… that was in early November. She was kept inside and not exposed to other cats. If it was leukemia it had to be passed from the mother.
I started her on herbs for her liver. Dandelion root, Milk thistle, Burdock root, Artichoke, Kelp, and Peppermint. It is a compound called Liver Blend from Solaray for people. Some of the time I only used the pure Milk thistle, which is great for liver problems.
She really started to turn around, her appetite improved…(it was a hard to get her to eat anything) and she started to play again. The vet couldn’t believe the results.
I had started buying all types of wet food hoping to find something she would like and later found out about the recall.
In January the end was near. Within days her blue eyes turned bright yellow and she felt bad. Severe jaundice. I took her in and had her put to sleep. I will never know for sure if it was the food and I should have insisted the test for leukemia have been done. I am sure the food played a roll in her death.
Thanks to all the people that have posted about cat nutrition! I have learned so much about foods for cats. I will never feed cats the same as before.
Thanks to Itchmo for doing such a great job of informing all of us.
May 13th, 2007 at 9:24 am
chloe,
Here is a link to Itchmo’s forum where Purina is discussed. You may find the information you want in that thread or you can post your questions there.
itchmoforums.com > Pet Health Questions > Your Problems with
Pet Food > Purina Friskies and Fancy Feast
http://itchmoforums.com/index.php?topic=200.0
May 13th, 2007 at 9:32 am
chloe,
My post just went off to who knows where - here is the link to a thread at Itchmo’s forums that discusses Purinia:
Purina Friskies and Fancy Feast
http://itchmoforums.com/index.php?topic=200.0
May 13th, 2007 at 11:26 am
I have been watching this thread and notice a post referring to liver failure.
I had a part Siamese kitten die in January due to her liver failing. She was barely a year old.
Her diet was Purina One Kitten and Whiskas in the pouch. (I didn’t know about the grains being so bad for cats at the time.) The vet assumed she had feline leukemia…didn’t do the test and gave her a week to live… that was in early November.
I might also add that she was strictly an inside cat and if she had leukemia it must have come from her mother.
I started her on herbs for her liver. Dandelion root, Milk thistle, Burdock root, Artichoke, Kelp, and Peppermint. It is a compound called Liver Blend from Solaray for people. Some of the time I only used the pure Milk thistle, which is great for liver problems.
She really started to turn around, her appetite improved…(it was a hard to get her to eat anything) and she started to play again. The vet couldn’t believe the results.
I had started buying all types of wet food hoping to find something she would like and later found out about the recall.
In January the end was near. Within days her blue eyes turned bright yellow and she felt bad. Severe jaundice. I took her in and had her put to sleep. I will never know for sure if it was the food and I should have insisted the test for leukemia have been done. I am sure the food played a roll in her death.
Thanks to all the people that have posted about cat nutrition! I have learned so much about foods for cats. I will never feed cats the same as before.
Thanks to Itchmo for doing such a great job of informing all of us.
May 13th, 2007 at 11:47 am
petslave & martin,
Thank you for your input. It’s very helpful.
I bought Life’s Abundance for my cats. They really don’t like the can food. They did taste it, but only one will eat it and yes I do know it’s my menu food & that made me nervous but I was looking at the ing. 3 out of 4 love the dry food. I have just gotten Innova, Evo and calif. natural. I’m having a hard time trying to switch them over.
phyllis,
Thanks for web site again. Yeaterday I was able to find the Common Juniper at a natural pet food shop. I’m trying it for my fuzzy kids.
Ann,
Thanks for the advise. I’ll try that today. I hope this helps them to eat it.
May 13th, 2007 at 11:47 am
kidney failure is linked to melemine & cyanuric acid. I see many posts about liver failure. Is there something else in these foods that would cause liver problems?
May 13th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Jessica,
I’ll try your idea about the oils also. Thanks for the ideas folks!
Martin,
I’ve been reading the same thing. I’m surprised that didn’t show up sooner. The kidneys should take out toxins, but I guess if it’s too much the kidneys can’t handle it and problems come up . I can see how that happens. Kidneys can only do so much.
May 13th, 2007 at 12:41 pm
Martin,
I believe that the problems with the pet food are for many and varied reasons. They are not the same for every food that has and has not been recalled. Some blame it to wheat gluten that came from genetically engineered/transgenic/GM plants.
Who really knows! I just wish that the government would give the power and money to someone so that this food crisis could be a thing of the past.
May 13th, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Martin: What I know about this is that every few days someone pops up and says their pet had liver failure rather than kidney failure after having eaten either recalled food or food that has not been recalled but has received excessive complaints. If these chemical cocktails in the food are causing liver failure and internal bleeding, similar to rat poison, the exact cause has not been found and to my knowledge is not even being looked at. We know melamine & cyanuric acid combine to form lethal crystals in the kidneys, but we do not know what other effects these chemicals are producing. The FDA is all about obsessing on the melamine and pretty much seeming to ignore the other contaminants found. I worry that when all the lawsuits get in high gear, the people whose pets died of liver failure or became very ill from it will be ignored in their complaints it was from the food. I still think the pet parents with a liver diagnosis should start a thread in the forum for liver effects and see what the response is. Since it got pretty adamant in this thread, I am hoping more people who have pets with liver problems and suspect the food will continue to speak up and talk to each other.
May 13th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
helen I started using emu oil after I ended up on IV antibiotics from diverticulitis. I was told one more major episode and they remove part of my colon. So I searched the net for anything to help. Saw someone using emu oil to control Crohn’s disease because it is anti inflammatory.
Then I researched people who sell emu on the internet. There are so many resellers I settled on one that raises emus and refines his own oil. Simply out of fear of getting the big intestinal infection I decided refined was safest. lbemu also gave a detailed history described how they started refining, and their process and shows a picture of the facilities and shows some studies comparing refined to unrefined
Unrefined might be just as good but I am ultra careful because of my condition. Other sellers might be as good but since I haven’t had an infection with lbemu I don’t rock the boat.
The emu helps me a lot. I gave it to my kitties on a whim. It was so good calming them I kept doing it for the nutrition. All this time they were getting recalled IAMs, Nutro. When I ran out of emu my guy had his first attack in a long time. Back on emu he cleared up. Run out again and in a week he was in pain.
I still owe big bucks for the big guy’s vet bills so I never miss a dose
Emu is similar to fish oils. The Himi craves it. She eats it off my hands. The other two tolerate it. I cut the tough capsule with scissors and squirt it into their mouths.
Was the emu treating the blockage or interfering with melamine in their food from forming crystals? That is a good question to consider as I look at my vet bills
May 13th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
Hello all.
I have a request for opinions or ideas only. Please dont direct me to websites or recipes because i’ve read them all trust me.
I’m on the fence right now between trying Merrik, evangers and frozen raw from the heath store, or making my own(ive already made a small fresh fish batch with powdered egshells that is going over pretty well. my one cat wont touch the fancy feast now after just 2 days of the fish mix my other wants his ff but im working on him.
I had a hard time finding a butcher who would help me out but i did, 45 mins away.
i just want to know how this sounds to the raw feeders who visit this site.
I’ll make my own fish flavors since i can pound eggshells in a ziplock bag into powder no problem, i also added 1 egg and one yolk to a big bowl of salmon, sole and cod fillets( all wild caught, bought months ago in vacum packed freezer fillets) i hand shredded. i powdered the 2 eggshells into the mix and just a handful of kibble to soak up the fish broth and eggs . Fish and eggs are both high in taurine so i wasnt worried about that in the fish mix.
For the meat i can have a few batches ground with bone and organ meat at the butcher and frezze portions out. 1 beef mix with organ meats, one poultry, chix, turkey or whatever else they may have , and one game type like lamb and whatever else they have. as long as they have the bonemeal in it and organ meat it should be fine, right? and since they will get plenty of omega 3 fatty fish as well they should be balanced i think.
If this isn’t an ok way to home feed i’ll have to go canned. i dont have a food processor and cannot afford the kind that will ground bones. I also dont want to use a bunch of supplements since i don’t trust them and the whole home chemist thing scares me. i’m afraid i’ll od them or they will still get fillers that way.
what do you all think?
May 13th, 2007 at 2:16 pm
I feed my cat Artemis Feline Fresh Mix. She is very picky with her dry food, so even before all this recall crap, I was constantly trying to find something healthy, that she would eat. Nothing from Artemis is on the recall list, and she LOVES it! Holistic food, no animal testing either! The store I get all my pet food from has been doing a lot of research, and only sells the best food. I picked the Artemis after trying so many she wouldn’t eat. The owners of the store told me they have recommended it to anyone who’s cat was a picky eater, and never once had a bag returned! They took ALL the Natural Balance off the shelves after a few were added to the recall list. My dogs get Wellness. Another good food not on any recall list.
http://www.oldmotherhubbard.com/wellness/
http://www.artemiscompany.com/index.asp?kind=cat
May 13th, 2007 at 2:22 pm
e wem, Thank you for restating your story. My memory is getting overloaded trying to keep track of who contributed what and when, and I really do try to keep reminding of anything that has shown to help. I’m going to get some for my cat to help protect her from future food problems. I hope it works. Thanks also for the info on your source. Finding a safe source of anything on the internet is very difficult, as shown by the pet food manufacturers’ websites.
May 13th, 2007 at 2:24 pm
Here is an article talking about LIVER and KIDNEY problems relating to genetically modified corn. Food for thought. Yikes.
http://www.organicconsumers.or.....e_4790.cfm
May 13th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
i switched to canidae and felidae after alot of research- good stuff check it out!
http://canidae.com/
May 13th, 2007 at 2:39 pm
Any word on the Royal Canin brand cat food? I am feeding my cats the Persian. Is this still safe to feed, as far as we know at this particular moment?
May 13th, 2007 at 4:19 pm
Well since this recall started, I’ve been doing some serious thinking. I’ve tried to feed my pets & family healthy but with so much coming out about additives in our food that we didn’t know about, I don’t think I can feed any of us healthy with commercial foods. I spent the afternoon doing a little local research. I found a local farm that sells fresh organic veggies and eggs and a place within driving distance that has grass-fed beef, pork and poultry. The farm makes up boxes weekly of assorted veggie that they have that particular week plus a dozen eggs. They have a waiting list so I called today and got on it. Tomorrow I plan to call and order meat. It will be more expensive than running to my local grocery store but I’ll be supporting local grower and I’ll have the peace of mind that I’m not feeding my family unknown poisons from who knows where. Big business only understands money and I plan to start spending mine on American products.
May 13th, 2007 at 4:30 pm
Lee Evans: Who knows if it is safe. RC waited so long to issue their current recalls, I wouldn’t trust any of their food right now. Who knows if they will recall some more of it next Friday night? Just my opinion. Hope your cats don’t get sick.