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	<title>Comments on: Tennessee Vet Faces Criminal Charges For Euthansia Methods</title>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-faces-criminal-charges-for-euthansia-method-4466#comment-106783</link>
		<author>Denise</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow this is scary stuff i was reading your post everyone. how do we know for sure how our vets really are treating our babies. we love them and have a hard time understanding this stuff. It was almost like the vet just grabbed the animals and jabbed the needle right in to the heart like they did not have feelings at all. he will practice again. spaying and nutering would cut down on alot of the unwanted animals. I hope people pay attention and don't use him again. this makes me cringe. I know you all are going to say the same thing. I love my little missy pup and try to do everything to keep her safe. there are crazy people out there that just don't care and are very cruel. I would like to see him alone some where. I hope something happens to him and he can not do this again. keep a close eye on your pets. I watch my pup even when she is in the back yard. take care everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow this is scary stuff i was reading your post everyone. how do we know for sure how our vets really are treating our babies. we love them and have a hard time understanding this stuff. It was almost like the vet just grabbed the animals and jabbed the needle right in to the heart like they did not have feelings at all. he will practice again. spaying and nutering would cut down on alot of the unwanted animals. I hope people pay attention and don&#8217;t use him again. this makes me cringe. I know you all are going to say the same thing. I love my little missy pup and try to do everything to keep her safe. there are crazy people out there that just don&#8217;t care and are very cruel. I would like to see him alone some where. I hope something happens to him and he can not do this again. keep a close eye on your pets. I watch my pup even when she is in the back yard. take care everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefani</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-faces-criminal-charges-for-euthansia-method-4466#comment-106719</link>
		<author>Stefani</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judy, I'm like you.  I drive 1 to 1 1/2 hours for vet care now, since I learned the truth.  

It is hard to know.  Just avoid letting them "take your pet to the back" as much as possible.  Stay with them as much as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judy, I&#8217;m like you.  I drive 1 to 1 1/2 hours for vet care now, since I learned the truth.  </p>
<p>It is hard to know.  Just avoid letting them &#8220;take your pet to the back&#8221; as much as possible.  Stay with them as much as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-faces-criminal-charges-for-euthansia-method-4466#comment-106636</link>
		<author>Judy</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you know?  My cat had questionable treatment by one emergency clinic twice by two different vets.  This clinic is a "sister" hospital to my regular vet and I will no longer go there.  Instead if my vet hospital cannot handle something I will go into Boston (1 1/2 to 2 hr drive each way).  

But how do you know how they handle your pet when you are not there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you know?  My cat had questionable treatment by one emergency clinic twice by two different vets.  This clinic is a &#8220;sister&#8221; hospital to my regular vet and I will no longer go there.  Instead if my vet hospital cannot handle something I will go into Boston (1 1/2 to 2 hr drive each way).  </p>
<p>But how do you know how they handle your pet when you are not there?</p>
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		<title>By: Stefani</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-faces-criminal-charges-for-euthansia-method-4466#comment-106605</link>
		<author>Stefani</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to call everyone's attention to Lisa's comment: 

"Lisa says: 
Is this illegal in all states? I worked for a large vet office who routinely euthanized cats this way. Until reading this I thought it was the norm."

To everyone (but not Lisa, since she apparently knows it already) -- don't assume vets are animal lovers, or even have the smallest bit of compassion for animals.  Frankly many of them seem to hold animals in contempt and use their positions to exercise sadistic urges. 

When I worked at a vet office briefly in the mid 1980s they used the gas chamber for cats, and the vet assistant who did this after hours cackled wildly like some unhinged nutcase as she recalled for me the struggles and cries of the cats in the chamber.  I later learned they were selling the dead bodies to a rendering plant.  The vet who was responsible for this is now on some local lists of "best vets" so it just shows you how ridiculously gullible we pet owners are when it comes to vets. 

Sometimes they seem like a bunch of Ted Bundy's to me.  Charming.  They really take you in with their fake sympathy.  And behind closed doors the sadistic monster comes out. 

Stefani</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to call everyone&#8217;s attention to Lisa&#8217;s comment: </p>
<p>&#8220;Lisa says:<br />
Is this illegal in all states? I worked for a large vet office who routinely euthanized cats this way. Until reading this I thought it was the norm.&#8221;</p>
<p>To everyone (but not Lisa, since she apparently knows it already) &#8212; don&#8217;t assume vets are animal lovers, or even have the smallest bit of compassion for animals.  Frankly many of them seem to hold animals in contempt and use their positions to exercise sadistic urges. </p>
<p>When I worked at a vet office briefly in the mid 1980s they used the gas chamber for cats, and the vet assistant who did this after hours cackled wildly like some unhinged nutcase as she recalled for me the struggles and cries of the cats in the chamber.  I later learned they were selling the dead bodies to a rendering plant.  The vet who was responsible for this is now on some local lists of &#8220;best vets&#8221; so it just shows you how ridiculously gullible we pet owners are when it comes to vets. </p>
<p>Sometimes they seem like a bunch of Ted Bundy&#8217;s to me.  Charming.  They really take you in with their fake sympathy.  And behind closed doors the sadistic monster comes out. </p>
<p>Stefani</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-faces-criminal-charges-for-euthansia-method-4466#comment-106495</link>
		<author>Donna</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vets are NOT the caring doctors clients think they are. Worked in the vet industry for many years. When I witnessnessed the lack of compassion and violent behaviors from these people who care for pets and the lies they told the owners. I had too leave. No compassion, but big bucks.........and nice cards of sympathy sent to owners. Unreal lack of depth of compassion. MONEY, MONEY AND MORE MONEY ,Was this group of vets god. Animal care and healing ...........only if you did not question their prices or brought in a stray and had a charge card. Yes, it is as bad as you think it is. Pets are treated as a non feeling beings. Only times I saw the "decent" side of these men,when the owners were present. Be wary of your pets left at clinics for treatments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vets are NOT the caring doctors clients think they are. Worked in the vet industry for many years. When I witnessnessed the lack of compassion and violent behaviors from these people who care for pets and the lies they told the owners. I had too leave. No compassion, but big bucks&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;and nice cards of sympathy sent to owners. Unreal lack of depth of compassion. MONEY, MONEY AND MORE MONEY ,Was this group of vets god. Animal care and healing &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..only if you did not question their prices or brought in a stray and had a charge card. Yes, it is as bad as you think it is. Pets are treated as a non feeling beings. Only times I saw the &#8220;decent&#8221; side of these men,when the owners were present. Be wary of your pets left at clinics for treatments.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-faces-criminal-charges-for-euthansia-method-4466#comment-106473</link>
		<author>Sharon</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy needs to go to work for the State of Texas where he would have the opportunity to kill people this way on a regular basis. With more than two thirds of the executions in the entire country, folks around here would find him a kindred spirit. Personally, I would like to see him injected. With all the hoopla about Michael Vick, this guy is ten times worse. He's made his living off of killing animals in the most cruel way possible. I hope he goes to jail and dies there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy needs to go to work for the State of Texas where he would have the opportunity to kill people this way on a regular basis. With more than two thirds of the executions in the entire country, folks around here would find him a kindred spirit. Personally, I would like to see him injected. With all the hoopla about Michael Vick, this guy is ten times worse. He&#8217;s made his living off of killing animals in the most cruel way possible. I hope he goes to jail and dies there.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-faces-criminal-charges-for-euthansia-method-4466#comment-106389</link>
		<author>Lisa</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this illegal in all states? I worked for a large vet office who routinely euthanized cats this way. Until reading this I thought it was the norm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this illegal in all states? I worked for a large vet office who routinely euthanized cats this way. Until reading this I thought it was the norm.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-faces-criminal-charges-for-euthansia-method-4466#comment-106314</link>
		<author>Dave</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to get my hands on that Scumbag, I would give him some real Justice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to get my hands on that Scumbag, I would give him some real Justice.</p>
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		<title>By: judi</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-faces-criminal-charges-for-euthansia-method-4466#comment-106310</link>
		<author>judi</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Throw the SOB in the pin with Vick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Throw the SOB in the pin with Vick!</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-faces-criminal-charges-for-euthansia-method-4466#comment-106259</link>
		<author>Sylvia</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His license should be revoked and he shouild NEVER be allowed to be anywhere around animals again - ever.  He and Michael Vick could share the same jail cell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His license should be revoked and he shouild NEVER be allowed to be anywhere around animals again - ever.  He and Michael Vick could share the same jail cell.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-faces-criminal-charges-for-euthansia-method-4466#comment-106247</link>
		<author>Deb</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I for one would be most happy to inject drano and or another pleasant substance into the rotten B------s heart. Oh, I forgot, he has no heart. Hope he rots in hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for one would be most happy to inject drano and or another pleasant substance into the rotten B&#8212;&#8212;s heart. Oh, I forgot, he has no heart. Hope he rots in hell.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefani</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-faces-criminal-charges-for-euthansia-method-4466#comment-106233</link>
		<author>Stefani</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-faces-criminal-charges-for-euthansia-method-4466#comment-106233</guid>
		<description>Tanya, re: 

"Stephanie and Jennifer. Vets are not *exempt* in any state of the union en face, they are protected from someone who does not understand the nature of medicine from brining up charges against them. There is a huge difference."

Tanya, I take it you have some legal language expertise that I lack, and I don't know what "en face," means -- but YES, vets ARE exempt in, I believe 26 states, PROVIDED that the allegedly abusive behavior was committed WHILE they were practising as vets. 

In other words, if a vet sets fire to his neighbors dog, he is not exempt from animal cruelty charges.  Because he did not do this while practising.

However, if a vet gets angry at a cat he is trying to intubate, or a dog who cries while a painful procedure is being done, or any patient who otherwise will NOT cooperate, and then body slams the animal to the floor, or punches it, he is exempt because he did this while "practising veterinary medicine."  The rationale for this exemption is that laypeople can't possibly determine whether the actions were a part of legitimate treatment.  So that vet who punched the Dachshund in Arizona and knocked his eye out?  Said that this was all in the line of duty, got off. 

There are several high profile cases that illustrate my point.  Perhaps the most alarming is that of Thomas Sheridan in South Carolina.  His employees claim they saw him bang a cats head on the surgical table.  The employee reported otherwise rough handling of the cat.  The cat died and necropsy results were cited when the abuse charges brought against him.  

See http://www.sheridantruth.com/legaldocuments/SPCA%20report.pdf

The magistrate threw out the charges because of the veterinary exemption. 

See 

http://www.sheridantruth.com/legaldocuments/Animal_abuse_charge_against_vet_dismissed.pdf

I attended an animal law event in DC last fall, and they distributed a report listing the 20+ (I think it is 26) states in which veterinarians are exempt from animal cruelty prosecution for things they do while practising. 

Stefani
The Toonces Project
http://www.TheTooncesProject.com
"Is Your Pet Safe at the Vet?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tanya, re: </p>
<p>&#8220;Stephanie and Jennifer. Vets are not *exempt* in any state of the union en face, they are protected from someone who does not understand the nature of medicine from brining up charges against them. There is a huge difference.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tanya, I take it you have some legal language expertise that I lack, and I don&#8217;t know what &#8220;en face,&#8221; means &#8212; but YES, vets ARE exempt in, I believe 26 states, PROVIDED that the allegedly abusive behavior was committed WHILE they were practising as vets. </p>
<p>In other words, if a vet sets fire to his neighbors dog, he is not exempt from animal cruelty charges.  Because he did not do this while practising.</p>
<p>However, if a vet gets angry at a cat he is trying to intubate, or a dog who cries while a painful procedure is being done, or any patient who otherwise will NOT cooperate, and then body slams the animal to the floor, or punches it, he is exempt because he did this while &#8220;practising veterinary medicine.&#8221;  The rationale for this exemption is that laypeople can&#8217;t possibly determine whether the actions were a part of legitimate treatment.  So that vet who punched the Dachshund in Arizona and knocked his eye out?  Said that this was all in the line of duty, got off. </p>
<p>There are several high profile cases that illustrate my point.  Perhaps the most alarming is that of Thomas Sheridan in South Carolina.  His employees claim they saw him bang a cats head on the surgical table.  The employee reported otherwise rough handling of the cat.  The cat died and necropsy results were cited when the abuse charges brought against him.  </p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.sheridantruth.com/legaldocuments/SPCA%20report.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.sheridantruth.com/l.....report.pdf</a></p>
<p>The magistrate threw out the charges because of the veterinary exemption. </p>
<p>See </p>
<p><a href="http://www.sheridantruth.com/legaldocuments/Animal_abuse_charge_against_vet_dismissed.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.sheridantruth.com/l.....missed.pdf</a></p>
<p>I attended an animal law event in DC last fall, and they distributed a report listing the 20+ (I think it is 26) states in which veterinarians are exempt from animal cruelty prosecution for things they do while practising. </p>
<p>Stefani<br />
The Toonces Project<br />
<a href="http://www.TheTooncesProject.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.TheTooncesProject.com</a><br />
&#8220;Is Your Pet Safe at the Vet?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Stefani</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-faces-criminal-charges-for-euthansia-method-4466#comment-106224</link>
		<author>Stefani</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hazel, you asked "why anyone would take a pet rock to him." 

Hard as it is to believe, there are people who don't watch the news, or if they do, the story and name don't stick.  Then, in the future, if he is allowed to practice again, they just end up going to "the corner vet," only they don't know about his cruel past. 

This is why we have got to get people in the habit of researching their vets. 

stef</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hazel, you asked &#8220;why anyone would take a pet rock to him.&#8221; </p>
<p>Hard as it is to believe, there are people who don&#8217;t watch the news, or if they do, the story and name don&#8217;t stick.  Then, in the future, if he is allowed to practice again, they just end up going to &#8220;the corner vet,&#8221; only they don&#8217;t know about his cruel past. </p>
<p>This is why we have got to get people in the habit of researching their vets. </p>
<p>stef</p>
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		<title>By: Tanya</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-faces-criminal-charges-for-euthansia-method-4466#comment-106223</link>
		<author>Tanya</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephanie and Jennifer.  Vets are not *exempt* in any state of the union en face, they are protected from someone who does not understand the nature of medicine from brining up charges against them.  There is a huge difference.

In the line of work, doctors and vets sometimes have to be "cruel".  killing an animal is generally considered cruelty to animals.  you have to make vets exempt from that part, so they can do thier jobs.  But that doesn't mean they have the right to torture animals while doing so.  Also, scientists have to have the legal right to do thier (often more than questionable) research, but that doesn't mean they can sit there and burn a cat with cigraetts for the fun of it, while the cat is there for some other study.

Attorneys are used to working both side of this issue, because cops are generally exempt from some kinds of laws, fire people (including things like right to enter your home without warrent or permission), etc.

It's a matter of how good both side's lawyers are at defining what went on, and why it was necessary.  but the general principal used by both state and federal courts is "was the action done under teh best medical intent, while in the course of work as a professional".  

hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie and Jennifer.  Vets are not *exempt* in any state of the union en face, they are protected from someone who does not understand the nature of medicine from brining up charges against them.  There is a huge difference.</p>
<p>In the line of work, doctors and vets sometimes have to be &#8220;cruel&#8221;.  killing an animal is generally considered cruelty to animals.  you have to make vets exempt from that part, so they can do thier jobs.  But that doesn&#8217;t mean they have the right to torture animals while doing so.  Also, scientists have to have the legal right to do thier (often more than questionable) research, but that doesn&#8217;t mean they can sit there and burn a cat with cigraetts for the fun of it, while the cat is there for some other study.</p>
<p>Attorneys are used to working both side of this issue, because cops are generally exempt from some kinds of laws, fire people (including things like right to enter your home without warrent or permission), etc.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a matter of how good both side&#8217;s lawyers are at defining what went on, and why it was necessary.  but the general principal used by both state and federal courts is &#8220;was the action done under teh best medical intent, while in the course of work as a professional&#8221;.  </p>
<p>hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<author>anon</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This waste of carbon will probably be touted as an "expert" at the next FDA press conference. The PFI must be in a frenzy to hire him, an _experienced_  animal killer with absolutely no conscience  and a license to kill, what could be better? Too bad MenuFoods is not hiring.

There is nothing nastier that can be said about a person than that the PFI finds them admirable.
If the FDA likes that person too?
It is certain they are evil and should not be trusted with living creatures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This waste of carbon will probably be touted as an &#8220;expert&#8221; at the next FDA press conference. The PFI must be in a frenzy to hire him, an _experienced_  animal killer with absolutely no conscience  and a license to kill, what could be better? Too bad MenuFoods is not hiring.</p>
<p>There is nothing nastier that can be said about a person than that the PFI finds them admirable.<br />
If the FDA likes that person too?<br />
It is certain they are evil and should not be trusted with living creatures.</p>
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