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	<title>Comments on: Tennessee Vet That Used Cruel Euthanasia Methods Has License Suspended</title>
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		<title>By: stefani</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-96349</link>
		<author>stefani</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, this is stiff punishment when you look at what Vet Boards see nationwide and do NOTHING.  That doesn't make it right, though, that he will EVER have his license again.  I surely hope pet owners will stay away from him in DROVES.  

He doesn't see anything wrong with it, but he held these animals and knew the fear and pain they were experiencing.  

Take my word for it:  the vet board would have done NOTHING about this without VIDEO evidence and news coverage.  They hear bad cases all the time that would break your heart but do NOTHING because no matter how outlandish and unbelievable, when it's a vets word against a client, they always believe the vet.  The difference?  Video evidence and coverage.  

The moral:  If you want anything done, get video, get recordings, GET NEWS COVERAGE.  Check your state laws on taping before doing the audio, quite ironically, surruptitious audio taping is illegal in some states where video taping is legal.  Frankly, I believe that law serves only to protect LIARS and I live in one of those states. 

Stefani Olsen
The Toonces Project
http://www.TheTooncesProject.com
"Is Your Pet Safe at the Vet?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, this is stiff punishment when you look at what Vet Boards see nationwide and do NOTHING.  That doesn&#8217;t make it right, though, that he will EVER have his license again.  I surely hope pet owners will stay away from him in DROVES.  </p>
<p>He doesn&#8217;t see anything wrong with it, but he held these animals and knew the fear and pain they were experiencing.  </p>
<p>Take my word for it:  the vet board would have done NOTHING about this without VIDEO evidence and news coverage.  They hear bad cases all the time that would break your heart but do NOTHING because no matter how outlandish and unbelievable, when it&#8217;s a vets word against a client, they always believe the vet.  The difference?  Video evidence and coverage.  </p>
<p>The moral:  If you want anything done, get video, get recordings, GET NEWS COVERAGE.  Check your state laws on taping before doing the audio, quite ironically, surruptitious audio taping is illegal in some states where video taping is legal.  Frankly, I believe that law serves only to protect LIARS and I live in one of those states. </p>
<p>Stefani Olsen<br />
The Toonces Project<br />
<a href="http://www.TheTooncesProject.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.TheTooncesProject.com</a><br />
&#8220;Is Your Pet Safe at the Vet?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: shibadiva</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-96060</link>
		<author>shibadiva</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 15:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-96060</guid>
		<description>Don't forget the petition:

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-the-cruel-killing-of-animals-due-to-overcrowding</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget the petition:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-the-cruel-killing-of-animals-due-to-overcrowding" rel="nofollow">http://www.thepetitionsite.com.....ercrowding</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95865</link>
		<author>Pam</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95865</guid>
		<description>Re:

"Lynn says: 

December 15th, 2007 at 2:46 am 
Thereâ€™s something seriously wrong with the veterinary board that they would allow this man to keep his license."


Lynn, I'm sure the Veterinary Board is made up of other vets.  They have a personal interest in not making the veterinary profession look bad.  Also, they are probably living in glass houses themselves, so they don't want to throw any stones.  Any profession that polices itself is under suspicion, I believe.  

I completely agree that this "vet" is a person who should never be able to have a veterinary license again.  There is enough evidence to show he has no concern for the pain and suffering of animals. 

And, his excuse that he "didn't know" that the heart shot was banned shows he is ignorant or stupid--neither are good traits for a vet.  A pox on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re:</p>
<p>&#8220;Lynn says: </p>
<p>December 15th, 2007 at 2:46 am<br />
Thereâ€™s something seriously wrong with the veterinary board that they would allow this man to keep his license.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lynn, I&#8217;m sure the Veterinary Board is made up of other vets.  They have a personal interest in not making the veterinary profession look bad.  Also, they are probably living in glass houses themselves, so they don&#8217;t want to throw any stones.  Any profession that polices itself is under suspicion, I believe.  </p>
<p>I completely agree that this &#8220;vet&#8221; is a person who should never be able to have a veterinary license again.  There is enough evidence to show he has no concern for the pain and suffering of animals. </p>
<p>And, his excuse that he &#8220;didn&#8217;t know&#8221; that the heart shot was banned shows he is ignorant or stupid&#8211;neither are good traits for a vet.  A pox on him.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95801</link>
		<author>Lynn</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm with you, Sharon,  a thousand per cent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you, Sharon,  a thousand per cent.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95764</link>
		<author>Sharon</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95764</guid>
		<description>This man belongs in jail. In my mind what he did is worse than what Michael Vick did and he got a slap on the hand. It was more like a slap in the face to the people of Tennessee. There is something mentally wrong with people who think that this is an ok outcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This man belongs in jail. In my mind what he did is worse than what Michael Vick did and he got a slap on the hand. It was more like a slap in the face to the people of Tennessee. There is something mentally wrong with people who think that this is an ok outcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Connie</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95747</link>
		<author>Connie</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95747</guid>
		<description>I second everything said above. 

Watch the Fox17 report. It's on the front page under "Top Video Stories" right now. It shows part of Baber's testimony and he is interviewed briefly. I love the part where he says, "Because of what I will have to endure..."

Oh geez. Poor, poor you. 

www.fox17.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second everything said above. </p>
<p>Watch the Fox17 report. It&#8217;s on the front page under &#8220;Top Video Stories&#8221; right now. It shows part of Baber&#8217;s testimony and he is interviewed briefly. I love the part where he says, &#8220;Because of what I will have to endure&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh geez. Poor, poor you. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.fox17.com" rel="nofollow">www.fox17.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95713</link>
		<author>Sylvia</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This idiot should never get is license back - he "didn't know" the heart shot method had been banned?  Guess he really keeps up on his craft.  Thee is no excuse for cuelty to an animal - he's too busy - he is a jerk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This idiot should never get is license back - he &#8220;didn&#8217;t know&#8221; the heart shot method had been banned?  Guess he really keeps up on his craft.  Thee is no excuse for cuelty to an animal - he&#8217;s too busy - he is a jerk</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95695</link>
		<author>Lynn</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95695</guid>
		<description>There's something seriously wrong with the veterinary board that they would allow this man to keep his license. Either they see a need for a needle happy killer in the shelters and that's why they've allowed him to stay in the profession.  Or it's simply because they don't crucify their own.

Let's be realistic here [and do NOT for one second assume I am defending Baber]: Anyone who does assembly line murders has to put his brain on autopilot and zone out, otherwise he would go crazy doing what he does. But then I suppose there are those who are so totally immune to inflicting pain. Remind you of psychopathic serial killers? 

I say send Winograd to Tennessee and have him build, at Baber's expense, a model shelter where killing is not permitted. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s something seriously wrong with the veterinary board that they would allow this man to keep his license. Either they see a need for a needle happy killer in the shelters and that&#8217;s why they&#8217;ve allowed him to stay in the profession.  Or it&#8217;s simply because they don&#8217;t crucify their own.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be realistic here [and do NOT for one second assume I am defending Baber]: Anyone who does assembly line murders has to put his brain on autopilot and zone out, otherwise he would go crazy doing what he does. But then I suppose there are those who are so totally immune to inflicting pain. Remind you of psychopathic serial killers? </p>
<p>I say send Winograd to Tennessee and have him build, at Baber&#8217;s expense, a model shelter where killing is not permitted.</p>
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		<title>By: Geff</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95678</link>
		<author>Geff</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95678</guid>
		<description>I normally don't believe in the death penalty, but this slime is truly deserving.  At minimum, his license should be suspended for life, &#38; I'm amazed that any Judge would consider otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I normally don&#8217;t believe in the death penalty, but this slime is truly deserving.  At minimum, his license should be suspended for life, &amp; I&#8217;m amazed that any Judge would consider otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: hazel</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95677</link>
		<author>hazel</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95677</guid>
		<description>HE IS MORE THAN A LOATHSOME EXCUSE FOR A VET....HE IS A LOATHSOME EEXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HE IS MORE THAN A LOATHSOME EXCUSE FOR A VET&#8230;.HE IS A LOATHSOME EEXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol Ann</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95668</link>
		<author>Carol Ann</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95668</guid>
		<description>This vet makes me sick..he should never get his license renewed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This vet makes me sick..he should never get his license renewed</p>
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		<title>By: shibadiva</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95659</link>
		<author>shibadiva</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95659</guid>
		<description>Well, let's put some pressure on so that his license is NEVER renewed. Regardless of what any psychologist says about his probability to re-offend. 

Vets like this should be out of business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let&#8217;s put some pressure on so that his license is NEVER renewed. Regardless of what any psychologist says about his probability to re-offend. </p>
<p>Vets like this should be out of business.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy VB</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95646</link>
		<author>Nancy VB</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 01:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95646</guid>
		<description>He felt like he did nothing wrong?! How does this man live with himself?
Makes me sick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He felt like he did nothing wrong?! How does this man live with himself?<br />
Makes me sick!</p>
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		<title>By: Cate</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95628</link>
		<author>Cate</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This man should never be allowed to practice again. I am so sad when I think of all the helpless animals that have suffered in his hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This man should never be allowed to practice again. I am so sad when I think of all the helpless animals that have suffered in his hands.</p>
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		<title>By: The Lioness</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/tennessee-vet-that-used-cruel-euthanasia-methods-has-license-suspended-4253#comment-95612</link>
		<author>The Lioness</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This man is so full of crap!  HOW can a veterinarian NOT KNOW the state laws?  That's just a load of bull!

5 years' probation and $2k is not enough, but I guess it's a start.  Why isn't he in JAIL for 5 years, though!

GAAAAH! This makes me nuts.

I hope the new AC and shelter team do a better job.

~The Lioness</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This man is so full of crap!  HOW can a veterinarian NOT KNOW the state laws?  That&#8217;s just a load of bull!</p>
<p>5 years&#8217; probation and $2k is not enough, but I guess it&#8217;s a start.  Why isn&#8217;t he in JAIL for 5 years, though!</p>
<p>GAAAAH! This makes me nuts.</p>
<p>I hope the new AC and shelter team do a better job.</p>
<p>~The Lioness</p>
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