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	<title>Comments on: Threats To Poison Feral Cats At Brooklyn Parking Lot</title>
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		<title>By: cynthia</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-255448</link>
		<author>cynthia</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, was always a dog lover lost 3 dogs in 2o years children grew up ad moved away feral cats in my area have totally elimated rat population ps (I live in a fairly affluent community) they are not destructive and provide some degree of pleasure to us aging yuppies, as it goes live and let live!  remember hitler?  it's a form of genocide to destroy any species!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, was always a dog lover lost 3 dogs in 2o years children grew up ad moved away feral cats in my area have totally elimated rat population ps (I live in a fairly affluent community) they are not destructive and provide some degree of pleasure to us aging yuppies, as it goes live and let live!  remember hitler?  it&#8217;s a form of genocide to destroy any species!</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-110179</link>
		<author>Erik</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 01:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just put a sign in my garden saying "no peeing here". Oddly the cats still do, the dogs have stopped but then, they never did. Thier pee has maimed many a defenseless plant.

If anyone here is a true animalaterian they would take the time to teach these  poor, homeless cats to read ! That way we can treat them like people and make them obey the laws we superior people have to obey. 

Got a problem with that, easy now, they can start their own support groups. As an aside they could picket Ol Joe's Parking Garage. Then the world will be as it would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just put a sign in my garden saying &#8220;no peeing here&#8221;. Oddly the cats still do, the dogs have stopped but then, they never did. Thier pee has maimed many a defenseless plant.</p>
<p>If anyone here is a true animalaterian they would take the time to teach these  poor, homeless cats to read ! That way we can treat them like people and make them obey the laws we superior people have to obey. </p>
<p>Got a problem with that, easy now, they can start their own support groups. As an aside they could picket Ol Joe&#8217;s Parking Garage. Then the world will be as it would.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109753</link>
		<author>Dee</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, Don.....I have donated my services to vaccinate, deworm (once is better than never on both of those), spay, and neuter hundreds (probably well over a thousand) ferals at my cost of actual drugs and supplies, in addition to treating the treatable sick and injured ones before releasing them.

And I say again.....no one is doing any favors to these cats by feeding them without ALSO doing the above.  If you do, you are only adding to the problem by helping to increase the population,  which makes it all the more difficult for those of us who are trying to DECREASE it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, Don&#8230;..I have donated my services to vaccinate, deworm (once is better than never on both of those), spay, and neuter hundreds (probably well over a thousand) ferals at my cost of actual drugs and supplies, in addition to treating the treatable sick and injured ones before releasing them.</p>
<p>And I say again&#8230;..no one is doing any favors to these cats by feeding them without ALSO doing the above.  If you do, you are only adding to the problem by helping to increase the population,  which makes it all the more difficult for those of us who are trying to DECREASE it.</p>
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		<title>By: straybaby</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109741</link>
		<author>straybaby</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109741</guid>
		<description>RoonieRoo,

did you contact the ASPCA or an SPCA? here (NYC), i'm pretty sure the ASPCA is free for ferals, check their site. also free for low income families. those that can pay (the rest of the city :) ) pay $25.  My LL maintains the few ferals we have, i make sure they are s/n via the ASPCA van. ASPCA is not a national shelter though and aren't connected with other SPCA's. they do have sister cities for promoting no-kill, so if you are in one of those cities, there may be an option.

my 2 oldest cats are from a litter back when i first moved in :) believe me, that's not something i could do every season! we haven't had any kittens for about 6 yrs now. once the females are fixed, males tend to go elsewhere. and new ones that do show up, don't always stick around. we have the same crew for sometime now. must be the pasta my LL serves up with their kibble, lol!~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RoonieRoo,</p>
<p>did you contact the ASPCA or an SPCA? here (NYC), i&#8217;m pretty sure the ASPCA is free for ferals, check their site. also free for low income families. those that can pay (the rest of the city :) ) pay $25.  My LL maintains the few ferals we have, i make sure they are s/n via the ASPCA van. ASPCA is not a national shelter though and aren&#8217;t connected with other SPCA&#8217;s. they do have sister cities for promoting no-kill, so if you are in one of those cities, there may be an option.</p>
<p>my 2 oldest cats are from a litter back when i first moved in :) believe me, that&#8217;s not something i could do every season! we haven&#8217;t had any kittens for about 6 yrs now. once the females are fixed, males tend to go elsewhere. and new ones that do show up, don&#8217;t always stick around. we have the same crew for sometime now. must be the pasta my LL serves up with their kibble, lol!~</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109702</link>
		<author>Donna</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 07:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109702</guid>
		<description>Well.....35 years of working with rescue groups and ferals.I still say the cats have a right to live in peace. As far as biting people................you would need to be athletic super stars to   catch a feral. 35 years never a bite.............could it be levels of safe guards to handlers or perhaps knowledge.I find more parasite infected humans than strays. Most humans are infected with false sense of "superior species " Most dangerous lot of animals I have ever dealth with . Animal care is my profession. Cats have a right to life, they did not chose this life. A ''superior human" negelected to spay or neuter their pet.When she became pregnant or he sprayed...........standard human solution, dump the pet. Animals are not the problem , people are. I will continue to aid ferals ,they are societies unwanted and most abused and misunderstood. My work is to aid life not harm it. Allie cat allies .............free education of the value of  cats and their plight. All property owners are glad when we come to feed and care enough to aid these cats.Many ask , "how they can help"? Our lot in life is to help the less fortunate................includes feral cats.Or what ever needs a meal. I even fed "superior humans" that were hungry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;..35 years of working with rescue groups and ferals.I still say the cats have a right to live in peace. As far as biting people&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.you would need to be athletic super stars to   catch a feral. 35 years never a bite&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.could it be levels of safe guards to handlers or perhaps knowledge.I find more parasite infected humans than strays. Most humans are infected with false sense of &#8220;superior species &#8221; Most dangerous lot of animals I have ever dealth with . Animal care is my profession. Cats have a right to life, they did not chose this life. A &#8216;&#8217;superior human&#8221; negelected to spay or neuter their pet.When she became pregnant or he sprayed&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..standard human solution, dump the pet. Animals are not the problem , people are. I will continue to aid ferals ,they are societies unwanted and most abused and misunderstood. My work is to aid life not harm it. Allie cat allies &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.free education of the value of  cats and their plight. All property owners are glad when we come to feed and care enough to aid these cats.Many ask , &#8220;how they can help&#8221;? Our lot in life is to help the less fortunate&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.includes feral cats.Or what ever needs a meal. I even fed &#8220;superior humans&#8221; that were hungry.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Earl</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109691</link>
		<author>Don Earl</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 05:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109691</guid>
		<description>RE: "Iâ€™ve dealt with feral cats for over 25 years"

By putting up signs in parking lots, perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: &#8220;Iâ€™ve dealt with feral cats for over 25 years&#8221;</p>
<p>By putting up signs in parking lots, perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109641</link>
		<author>Dee</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL @ Radcliff, Allie, Luna, &#38; Ozzie!   Thanks for the chuckle.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL @ Radcliff, Allie, Luna, &amp; Ozzie!   Thanks for the chuckle.  :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Radcliff, Allie, Luna, &#38; Ozzie</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109573</link>
		<author>Radcliff, Allie, Luna, &#38; Ozzie</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109573</guid>
		<description>Rhonda, we're confused.

Do you want everyone to boycott that parking garage:

Because someone (maybe a customer, maybe just a passerby) put up signs threatening to poison the cats?

Because there are stray or feral cats living in the garage?

Because you don't like parking garages?

Because you don't like Don Earl?

Or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rhonda, we&#8217;re confused.</p>
<p>Do you want everyone to boycott that parking garage:</p>
<p>Because someone (maybe a customer, maybe just a passerby) put up signs threatening to poison the cats?</p>
<p>Because there are stray or feral cats living in the garage?</p>
<p>Because you don&#8217;t like parking garages?</p>
<p>Because you don&#8217;t like Don Earl?</p>
<p>Or what?</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109516</link>
		<author>Rhonda</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to topic. I hope that the ASPCA keeps a close eye on the situation. I would love to see everyone boycott this parking lot and hit the owner where it will hurt him the most -- his wallet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to topic. I hope that the ASPCA keeps a close eye on the situation. I would love to see everyone boycott this parking lot and hit the owner where it will hurt him the most &#8212; his wallet!</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109512</link>
		<author>Rhonda</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 15:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dee, don't even try to argue your point with Don Earl. Don't you know? He knows everything better than the rest of us. If he says something, he must be right. He must be a very well traveled man of the world to know so very, very much about everything. It really gets quite tiresome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dee, don&#8217;t even try to argue your point with Don Earl. Don&#8217;t you know? He knows everything better than the rest of us. If he says something, he must be right. He must be a very well traveled man of the world to know so very, very much about everything. It really gets quite tiresome.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109467</link>
		<author>Dee</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109467</guid>
		<description>Don, I've dealt with feral cats for over 25 years, and can think of at least twice that many cases of such bites.  Feral cats gets sick and injured.  When that happens, invariably some unknowledgeable person in the general public will try to help them without seeking assistance from someone who knows how to handle such situations.  Unless the cat is near death, YES THEY DO get bitten and otherwise injured.

Property owners are well within their rights to not want feral cats on their property, and it is illegal (not to mention morally unethical) to put food out for them on property that does not belong to the person doing the feeding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, I&#8217;ve dealt with feral cats for over 25 years, and can think of at least twice that many cases of such bites.  Feral cats gets sick and injured.  When that happens, invariably some unknowledgeable person in the general public will try to help them without seeking assistance from someone who knows how to handle such situations.  Unless the cat is near death, YES THEY DO get bitten and otherwise injured.</p>
<p>Property owners are well within their rights to not want feral cats on their property, and it is illegal (not to mention morally unethical) to put food out for them on property that does not belong to the person doing the feeding.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Earl</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109420</link>
		<author>Don Earl</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 09:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109420</guid>
		<description>I always love the comments that putting out food for feral cats attract the natural prey of cats. Yeah, right. My pet cats are indoor only, but I like having a few ferals around to catch mice.

I would tend to question the practice of feeding ferals on someone else's property though. Not everyone likes cats. I feed ferals, but it's on my property and no inconvenience to anyone else.

On Dee's comment about cats biting someone?! That's quite obviously the comment of someone that doesn't have a fuzzy clue about feral cats. Ferals are so incredibly shy that it often takes months to get within 20 feet of one. 

RonnieRoo's comments basically describe the struggle with trying to help ferals. There aren't any good anwsers and no quick fixes. For every one you try to help, a hundred halfwits abandon a pet that hasn't been fixed to turn wild. TNR programs are great in theory, but good luck trying to catch them or getting much help if you do. 

The compromise I came up with where I used to live, when I was feeding several feral females, was to catch the kittens and take them to a no kill shelter for adoption. The moms would bring the babies up to the food dish when they got to be about six weeks old, and they were usually so hungry, I could reach through the door and pick them up while they were concentrating on eating. 

There are a lot of good sites online with information about ferals, but no easy solutions. It's estimated that in the US the feral cat population roughly equals the pet cat population. It's another one of those areas where I think public information programs offered by local shelters would do more to help than anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always love the comments that putting out food for feral cats attract the natural prey of cats. Yeah, right. My pet cats are indoor only, but I like having a few ferals around to catch mice.</p>
<p>I would tend to question the practice of feeding ferals on someone else&#8217;s property though. Not everyone likes cats. I feed ferals, but it&#8217;s on my property and no inconvenience to anyone else.</p>
<p>On Dee&#8217;s comment about cats biting someone?! That&#8217;s quite obviously the comment of someone that doesn&#8217;t have a fuzzy clue about feral cats. Ferals are so incredibly shy that it often takes months to get within 20 feet of one. </p>
<p>RonnieRoo&#8217;s comments basically describe the struggle with trying to help ferals. There aren&#8217;t any good anwsers and no quick fixes. For every one you try to help, a hundred halfwits abandon a pet that hasn&#8217;t been fixed to turn wild. TNR programs are great in theory, but good luck trying to catch them or getting much help if you do. </p>
<p>The compromise I came up with where I used to live, when I was feeding several feral females, was to catch the kittens and take them to a no kill shelter for adoption. The moms would bring the babies up to the food dish when they got to be about six weeks old, and they were usually so hungry, I could reach through the door and pick them up while they were concentrating on eating. </p>
<p>There are a lot of good sites online with information about ferals, but no easy solutions. It&#8217;s estimated that in the US the feral cat population roughly equals the pet cat population. It&#8217;s another one of those areas where I think public information programs offered by local shelters would do more to help than anything else.</p>
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		<title>By: Elderta</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109404</link>
		<author>Elderta</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.nycferalcat.org/
http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/</description>
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<a href="http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.neighborhoodcats.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109388</link>
		<author>Dee</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And in doing so, those cats will pick up parasites from the mice that can then be transmitted to humans....especially children.

Discourage groups of feral cats (by not putting food out), and trap/vaccinate/deworm/sterilize/and relocate those that can be.

All animals need to learn to go to where the food is, not be taught that it will be brought to them with no effort on their part.   That's what keeps nature's intended food chain in proper balance.  Interfering with one section of it throws all the rest of it out of kilter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And in doing so, those cats will pick up parasites from the mice that can then be transmitted to humans&#8230;.especially children.</p>
<p>Discourage groups of feral cats (by not putting food out), and trap/vaccinate/deworm/sterilize/and relocate those that can be.</p>
<p>All animals need to learn to go to where the food is, not be taught that it will be brought to them with no effort on their part.   That&#8217;s what keeps nature&#8217;s intended food chain in proper balance.  Interfering with one section of it throws all the rest of it out of kilter.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109384</link>
		<author>Donna</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 05:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/threats-to-poison-feral-cats-at-brooklyn-parking-lot-4526#comment-109384</guid>
		<description>If the food has brought mice. Well fed cats will stop the rodent population.Cats are doing a service for mankind. Cameras installed will catch the sign posters. Leave the cats in peace.They, like us just want to survive and live their life in peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the food has brought mice. Well fed cats will stop the rodent population.Cats are doing a service for mankind. Cameras installed will catch the sign posters. Leave the cats in peace.They, like us just want to survive and live their life in peace.</p>
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