Comments on: Update On Consumers Testing For Toxins In Cat And Dog Food http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431 Essential news for cats, dogs and pet owners. Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:17:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: E. Hamilton http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-34224 E. Hamilton Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:32:37 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-34224 Don, you sweet talker you! Have you been peeping my dreams? I have a little list of heads I would enjoy seeing on a stick! China bashing is not the answer and I truly thought that the reducing of the factory to rubble before the (useless) FDA arrived was a GREAT response. The fast execution , also a nice touch. I am spending a fortune in printer ink with all the copies of the news I get asked for, people WANT the truth and they know they aint gonna get it from the fed. Keep hammering Don! Don, you sweet talker you! Have you been peeping my dreams?
I have a little list of heads I would enjoy seeing on a stick!

China bashing is not the answer and I truly thought that the reducing of the factory to rubble before the (useless) FDA arrived was a GREAT response.
The fast execution , also a nice touch.

I am spending a fortune in printer ink with all the copies of the news I get asked for, people WANT the truth and they know they aint gonna get it from the fed.

Keep hammering Don!

]]> By: Don Earl http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-34218 Don Earl Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:10:18 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-34218 Yes, well... for all the China bashing lately, their solution for dealing with FDA corruption is the best I've seen. If Sundloft's head decorated a pole in front of FDA headquarters, I believe it would serve as a wonderfully strong motivation to the morally flexible to keep it honest. Yes, well… for all the China bashing lately, their solution for dealing with FDA corruption is the best I’ve seen. If Sundloft’s head decorated a pole in front of FDA headquarters, I believe it would serve as a wonderfully strong motivation to the morally flexible to keep it honest.

]]> By: E. Hamilton http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-34138 E. Hamilton Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:20:44 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-34138 Don, I guess it is easy enough to start with the answer you want and make the tests that will give that answer, while carefully avoiding anything that might tell the TRUTH, as long as you have NO ethics and these lying bastids certainly are not overburdened with the ethics. I tell the story about the FDA sneaking around to get samples AFTER they had announced the BIG LIE to everyone I can. Go Don GO! Don, I guess it is easy enough to start with the answer you want and make the tests that will give that answer, while carefully avoiding anything that might tell the TRUTH, as long as you have NO ethics and these lying bastids certainly are not overburdened with the ethics.

I tell the story about the FDA sneaking around to get samples AFTER they had announced the BIG LIE to everyone I can.

Go Don GO!

]]> By: Don Earl http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-34031 Don Earl Wed, 11 Jul 2007 05:22:21 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-34031 I spoke with the folks at ExperTox today. They've been busy since the LA Times piece ran and several more acetaminophen positive samples have turned up as a result. But, hey, what do we know? I guess being one of the few labs in the country with unknown toxin scan capabilities, we just picked the wrong one. Which leaves the question: Why is everyone else testing for a single substance which is known to be virtually nontoxic? I spoke with the folks at ExperTox today. They’ve been busy since the LA Times piece ran and several more acetaminophen positive samples have turned up as a result.

But, hey, what do we know? I guess being one of the few labs in the country with unknown toxin scan capabilities, we just picked the wrong one.

Which leaves the question: Why is everyone else testing for a single substance which is known to be virtually nontoxic?

]]> By: Linda http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32858 Linda Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:45:12 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32858 Pukanuba, I am officially through with commercial pet food. I am now searching for vitamins. A company in VT has been very helpful, they will send samples, I may send it out for testing though before I give it to the dog! Pukanuba,
I am officially through with commercial pet food. I am now searching for vitamins. A company in VT has been very helpful, they will send samples, I may send it out for testing though before I give it to the dog!

]]> By: Donna http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32432 Donna Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:52:58 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32432 Steve M, I just wish the reporters would pick up the storyline of response issues with pet food companies. Your experience with Hill's would be enlightening reading. Steve M,
I just wish the reporters would pick up the storyline of response issues with pet food companies. Your experience with Hill’s would be enlightening reading.

]]> By: Steve M. http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32340 Steve M. Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:34:09 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32340 Donna, Thank you for posting your story on Don's site. I was under the impression, as many were, that Natura was different. I have been feeding my cat that survived the Hill's poisoning, Innova and California Natural (both Natura products). I thought she was doing good on them, but regardless my wife returned the remaining product I had this morning and made sure to inform the store owner about your experience. It is very dissapointing because it is hard to get my cat to eat anything other than dry food. Your reference to the representative commenting to you three weeks after you submitted the sample and claiming to have no knowledge of any issues with their food and finding that the food sample was sitting on the persons desk you mailed it to made me laugh, only because I haved regularly commented that I thought the samples I sent to Hill's and the FDA were probably sitting under someones office desk (The 7 pounds I sent to Hill's either probably made it to the dumpster by now, or more likely was processed back into the food production line). You know I never heard one word from Hill's since I submitted that sample to them on May 31st. Guess like Natura they just except that the FDA says there is no problem and go on with business as usual. They IMO have revealed themselves as no better than Hill's or any of the other big manufacturers and I am sorry I gave them my business. And BTW to poster doggiedolittle: Ignorance is bliss baby! Just shut down the computer and don't bother to read anymore. Afterall I'm sure that all the people posting lab results and sharing their stories are just a bunch of cranks with time, money,and energy to waste to discredit pet food manufacturers. Wow it's just so much fun you know. Donna,

Thank you for posting your story on Don’s site. I was under the impression,
as many were, that Natura was different. I have been feeding my cat that survived
the Hill’s poisoning, Innova and California Natural (both Natura products).
I thought she was doing good on them, but regardless my wife returned the remaining
product I had this morning and made sure to inform the store owner about your experience.
It is very dissapointing because it is hard to get my cat to eat anything other
than dry food.

Your reference to the representative commenting to you three weeks after you submitted
the sample and claiming to have no knowledge of any issues with their food and finding
that the food sample was sitting on the persons desk you mailed it to made me laugh,
only because I haved regularly commented that I thought the samples I sent to Hill’s
and the FDA were probably sitting under someones office desk (The 7 pounds I sent
to Hill’s either probably made it to the dumpster by now, or more likely was
processed back into the food production line). You know I never heard one word from
Hill’s since I submitted that sample to them on May 31st. Guess like Natura
they just except that the FDA says there is no problem and go on with business as
usual. They IMO have revealed themselves as no better than Hill’s or any of
the other big manufacturers and I am sorry I gave them my business.

And BTW to poster doggiedolittle: Ignorance is bliss baby! Just shut down the computer
and don’t bother to read anymore. Afterall I’m sure that all the people
posting lab results and sharing their stories are just a bunch of cranks with time,
money,and energy to waste to discredit pet food manufacturers. Wow it’s just
so much fun you know.

]]> By: Donna http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32326 Donna Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:41:06 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32326 JJ in IL - please share the details of your experience with your dog eating more grass while on a specific dog food. We are collecting stories to help with research we are doing; trying to find common threads in what is making pets sick on non-recalled foods. Send any info you think will be helpful to pfr07ps (at) gmail.com Thanks. JJ in IL - please share the details of your experience with your dog eating more grass while on a specific dog food. We are collecting stories to help with research we are doing; trying to find common threads in what is making pets sick on non-recalled foods. Send any info you think will be helpful to pfr07ps (at) gmail.com

Thanks.

]]> By: Pukanuba http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32322 Pukanuba Tue, 03 Jul 2007 15:07:12 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32322 I also noticed my dog has been eating grass lately.....something she has never done before. So no more multi-vitamins & have backed off the small amount of dry food to see if that helps. Just a little concerned that vitamins or vitamin pre-mix that pet food manufacturers use may contain something they shouldn't.....or maybe too much of one vitamin like what happened a few yrs back with RC. All the same symptoms as what's going on this time. If everyone is getting their vitamins from China, I fear for all our animals & all of us. We could all be in deep doo-doo!!!!!!!! I think the PF companies are probably the ones that led all of us to believe that we could never provide the proper nutrition for our babies.....that they know so much better than we do. Well, they proved that to be BS......I'm a little afraid of those multi-vitamins right now so I'll just continue home cooking, no vitamins. I give her protein, carbs & veggies plus a little flax oil in the morn & a fish oil gel tab in the evening & ground egg shell. Her coat shines like you wouldn't believe (people always ask what I feed her) & her energy knows no bounds....she's young but if something was missing from her diet, it would either show in her coat or her energy......at least that's what I think. As long as she's doing as well as she is now, I guess I can forget the vitamins. I'll be curious to hear what the people at Natura say.....if they will be honest & go public with the info. I also noticed my dog has been eating grass lately…..something she has never done before. So no more multi-vitamins & have backed off the small amount of dry food to see if that helps. Just a little concerned that vitamins or vitamin pre-mix that pet food manufacturers use may contain something they shouldn’t…..or maybe too much of one vitamin like what happened a few yrs back with RC. All the same symptoms as what’s going on this time.

If everyone is getting their vitamins from China, I fear for all our animals & all of us. We could all be in deep doo-doo!!!!!!!!

I think the PF companies are probably the ones that led all of us to believe that we could never provide the proper nutrition for our babies…..that they know so much better than we do. Well, they proved that to be BS……I’m a little afraid of those multi-vitamins right now so I’ll just continue home cooking, no vitamins.

I give her protein, carbs & veggies plus a little flax oil in the morn & a fish oil gel tab in the evening & ground egg shell. Her coat shines like you wouldn’t believe (people always ask what I feed her) & her energy knows no bounds….she’s young but if something was missing from her diet, it would either show in her coat or her energy……at least that’s what I think.

As long as she’s doing as well as she is now, I guess I can forget the vitamins. I’ll be curious to hear what the people at Natura say…..if they will be honest & go public with the info.

]]> By: JJ in IL http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32276 JJ in IL Tue, 03 Jul 2007 05:22:18 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32276 Donna I'm very thankful I read the link with your test results on it. Today I returned the bag of Karma that I just bought last wed. as it is made by the same co. that makes Innova. My dog has been eating an unusual amount of grass to make herself throw-up whatever is not agreeing with her. As a start I have removed the Karma from her diet and will try the Evangers canned only and see if she stops this huge amount of grass eating. Just so thankful that she is not being contaminated any further from this food that they stand behind and gurantee 100% per their website? And the answer to you that they had not tested it cause the batches they do test do not test positive for melamine so they feel no need to test for anything else. Well I for one sincerely look forward to their answers to you as I too felt this was a safe pet food but now cannot take any chances. I just can not thank you enough. Donna I’m very thankful I read the link with your test results on it. Today I returned the bag of Karma that I just bought last wed. as it is made by the same co. that makes Innova. My dog has been eating an unusual amount of grass to make herself throw-up whatever is not agreeing with her. As a start I have removed the Karma from her diet and will try the Evangers canned only and see if she stops this huge amount of grass eating. Just so thankful that she is not being contaminated any further from this food that they stand behind and gurantee 100% per their website? And the answer to you that they had not tested it cause the batches they do test do not test positive for melamine so they feel no need to test for anything else. Well I for one sincerely look forward to their answers to you as I too felt this was a safe pet food but now cannot take any chances. I just can not thank you enough.

]]> By: thomas http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32266 thomas Tue, 03 Jul 2007 03:23:00 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32266 I think my spelling as in the above post is getting worse , maybe from worrying about my pets. First sentence last post word should be hereing not hering also tried to abbreviate foods. I think my spelling as in the above post is getting worse , maybe from worrying about my pets. First sentence last post word should be hereing not hering also tried to abbreviate foods.

]]> By: thomas http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32263 thomas Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:40:29 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32263 I am sick over hering about ca na I have been feeeding it and inn treats and have 2 dogs drinking in excess and on of those 2 has very strong smelling urine. I am going to home cooked. Enough is enough!!!! Trudy you are right about veggie booty , it is posted on the FDA web site. They say the company is Roberts Gourmet Foods but they decline to say where the product is manufactured , or who the contractor is. Lets see if we can figure it out. What is the FDA trying to hide and who are they protecting this time? It certainly is not the public, the consumer. They must still be protecting big businesses!!! I am sick over hering about ca na I have been feeeding it and inn treats and have 2 dogs drinking in excess and on of those 2 has very strong smelling urine. I am going to home cooked. Enough is enough!!!!

Trudy you are right about veggie booty , it is posted on the FDA web site. They say the company is Roberts Gourmet Foods but they decline to say where the product is manufactured , or who the contractor is. Lets see if we can figure it out. What is the FDA trying to hide and who are they protecting this time? It certainly is not the public, the consumer. They must still be protecting big businesses!!!

]]> By: Cathy http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32262 Cathy Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:36:29 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32262 Are we (the people posting here) the only ones who have had pets with vomiting and diarrhea and medical problems? My dog is dead. Through strange circumstances, I'm fostering a stray. She's been heaving after she eats. I've tried several different foods. She was probably better off on the street eating trash. Are we (the people posting here) the only ones who have had pets with vomiting and diarrhea and medical problems? My dog is dead. Through strange circumstances, I’m fostering a stray. She’s been heaving after she eats. I’ve tried several different foods. She was probably better off on the street eating trash.

]]> By: Leslie k http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32259 Leslie k Tue, 03 Jul 2007 02:16:33 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32259 If the vitamin premix and/or vitamins have a problem then there is no safe commercial petfood. It doesn't matter if its wet,dry or raw.They all add vitamins. All 5 of mine love the Cal natural. The cats have had no problems,the dogs are still vomitting, eating grass & having the runs occasionally. Now I wonder if its when they get some chunks of unmixed vitamins. Had a bag of Pur 1 sens system dry adult dog tested & it had excess vit e in it & loose in the bag. Guess I'll be cooking even more. Anybody have good cat treat recipes ? I've tried several & 1 cat won't touch them. If the vitamin premix and/or vitamins have a problem then there is no safe commercial petfood. It doesn’t matter if its wet,dry or raw.They all add vitamins. All 5 of mine love the Cal natural. The cats have had no problems,the dogs are still vomitting, eating grass & having the runs occasionally. Now I wonder if its when they get some chunks of unmixed vitamins. Had a bag of Pur 1 sens system dry adult dog tested & it had excess vit e in it & loose in the bag. Guess I’ll be cooking even more. Anybody have good cat treat recipes ? I’ve tried several & 1 cat won’t touch them.

]]> By: Cathy http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32258 Cathy Tue, 03 Jul 2007 01:41:56 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/update-on-consumers-testing-for-toxins-in-cat-and-dog-food-1431#comment-32258 Carol, I'm not done yet. All dogs (and cats) are worth it. Carol, I’m not done yet. All dogs (and cats) are worth it.

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