Comments on: Symptoms Of Affected Dogs From Jerky Treats Compared To Fanconi Syndrome http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885 Essential news for cats, dogs and pet owners. Sun, 21 Mar 2010 06:24:21 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: e wem http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-59626 e wem Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:20:06 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-59626 I grew up in an era when cats got canned ground fish factory slops, mainly heads. I remember they had a lot of soft stools and diarrhea from that smelly food, but I never saw a cat throw up once in all those years. My mother recalls how cats were considered to have very long life spans, unless they were run over, killed by a dog or other accidents due to curiosity. How things have changed. This is not right and the animals are being poisoned I grew up in an era when cats got canned ground fish factory slops, mainly heads. I remember they had a lot of soft stools and diarrhea from that smelly food, but I never saw a cat throw up once in all those years. My mother recalls how cats were considered to have very long life spans, unless they were run over, killed by a dog or other accidents due to curiosity.

How things have changed. This is not right and the animals are being poisoned

]]> By: e wem http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-59621 e wem Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:12:00 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-59621 *Product distributed by this firm is manufactured by Jiujiang Huaheng Leather & Plastic Co, Ltda., China" menusux, great information. This reminds me of a 2005 article I saved about chicken in China being fed the ground leather scraps from leather factories http://en.epochtimes.com/news/5-8-31/31823.html from the article: "In addition, Mr. Liang, who works in the leather industry, also revealed a terrible story about using leather waste products as feed for fish, chicken and pig farms in China. He said that the leather production process uses many chemicals, and a large amount of leftover bits and pieces of material would be cut and discarded. “In mainland China, some people only collect these waste materials and grind them to powder, then mix them with millet and salt powders and sell them as feed materials.” One such factory he knew of was the Hong Kong Fur and Leather Factory in Northeastern China, Mr. Liang said. " Meanwhile, I feed my cats Kumpi dry food and homemade. I have been giving them a bit of Brandon Farms Organics dry which is supposed to be locally made. Krogers just came out with Brandon Farms Naturals Adult Cat Formula and I just tried it on my cats. They threw up like crazy. This Naturals has a lot of the familiar ingredients, fish meal, rice bran etc. I now worry it contains foreign ingredients so my cats are staying with Kumpi. Has anyone else had trouble with the new Brandon Farms Natural Adult Formula? You folk are right - homemade is best. I found a source of Amish raised chicken and beef and hope these guys arent buying Chinese ingredients too. It sure tastes better and it is the first ground beef my cats desire to eat This Food Fraud SUX big time *Product distributed by this firm is manufactured by Jiujiang Huaheng
Leather & Plastic Co, Ltda., China”

menusux, great information. This reminds me of a 2005 article I saved about chicken in China being fed the ground leather scraps from leather factories

http://en.epochtimes.com/news/5-8-31/31823.html
from the article:

“In addition, Mr. Liang, who works in the leather industry, also revealed a terrible story about using leather waste products as feed for fish, chicken and pig farms in China. He said that the leather production process uses many chemicals, and a large amount of leftover bits and pieces of material would be cut and discarded. “In mainland China, some people only collect these waste materials and grind them to powder, then mix them with millet and salt powders and sell them as feed materials.” One such factory he knew of was the Hong Kong Fur and Leather Factory in Northeastern China, Mr. Liang said. ”

Meanwhile, I feed my cats Kumpi dry food and homemade. I have been giving them a bit of Brandon Farms Organics dry which is supposed to be locally made. Krogers just came out with Brandon Farms Naturals Adult Cat Formula and I just tried it on my cats. They threw up like crazy. This Naturals has a lot of the familiar ingredients, fish meal, rice bran etc. I now worry it contains foreign ingredients so my cats are staying with Kumpi.

Has anyone else had trouble with the new Brandon Farms Natural Adult Formula?

You folk are right - homemade is best. I found a source of Amish raised chicken and beef and hope these guys arent buying Chinese ingredients too. It sure tastes better and it is the first ground beef my cats desire to eat

This Food Fraud SUX big time

]]> By: Tribyrd http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-59172 Tribyrd Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:28:31 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-59172 Kathy, Did your dog have a high BUN? My 11 month old was diagnosed in June. Is your dog still on sodiium bicarbonate? Mine had a very high BUN--we go back for repeat blood gases in a couple of weeks. She is acting fine now, but still on Dr Gonto's supplements. Kathy,
Did your dog have a high BUN? My 11 month old was diagnosed in June. Is your dog still on sodiium bicarbonate? Mine had a very high BUN–we go back for repeat blood gases in a couple of weeks. She is acting fine now, but still on Dr Gonto’s supplements.

]]> By: Kathy http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58853 Kathy Tue, 18 Sep 2007 01:14:05 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58853 If it were not from Dr. Gonto my dog would be dead. My dog used to love the Smokehouse Chicken Breast Tenders and I gave them to her thinking they were ok because they were "supposedly" 100% chicken/natural, etc... I don't believe any labels anymore. Anyway, my 2 1/2 year old Maltese has Fanconi Syndrome - diagnosed about two months ago. I caught it early because I am an overprotective "Mom". Dr. Gonto told me what to do and almost immediately she felt better and was back to her old self. Thank goodness my regular vet was open and willing to do what Dr. Gonto was telling him to do - saved her life. If it were not from Dr. Gonto my dog would be dead.
My dog used to love the Smokehouse Chicken Breast Tenders and I gave them to her thinking they were ok because they were “supposedly” 100% chicken/natural, etc… I don’t believe any labels anymore. Anyway, my 2 1/2 year old Maltese has Fanconi Syndrome - diagnosed about two months ago. I caught it early because I am an overprotective “Mom”. Dr. Gonto told me what to do and almost immediately she felt better and was back to her old self. Thank goodness my regular vet was open and willing to do what Dr. Gonto was telling him to do - saved her life.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58846 Anonymous Tue, 18 Sep 2007 00:14:21 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58846 Carole- have your vet cloned. We could use a lot more like him. Big thumbs up to people like him in time of crisis. 5CatMom- good job researching. Keep it up guys. As always, thank you Menusux, Don and everyone for keeping on track. Carole- have your vet cloned. We could use a lot more like him. Big thumbs up to people like him in time of crisis.

5CatMom- good job researching. Keep it up guys. As always, thank you Menusux, Don and everyone for keeping on track.

]]> By: Carol http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58831 Carol Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:28:52 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58831 Katie, I am not sure how to get the posting of the meeting on here for you to see who else is speaking so if you google "RI public forum pet food recall" you'll see it ( I don't understand copyright and alll that so I'm afraid to cut and paste!) I'm a computer newbie! Katie, I am not sure how to get the posting of the meeting on here for you to see who else is speaking so if you google “RI public forum pet food recall” you’ll see it ( I don’t understand copyright and alll that so I’m afraid to cut and paste!) I’m a computer newbie!

]]> By: Carol http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58828 Carol Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:22:15 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58828 Katie, I sure will post what is talked about---I am as interested in the long term effects as you are. My vet is the best!!! He said not to euthanize the first kitty Jessica when I took her in Feb 12th as he thought what was wrong might be reversible as it came on fast and then the same when Smudge got sick. He was so right!!! He is an internal medicine specialist so my cats had the best from the beginning and he is one of the vets that is NOT AGAINST home cooking!!!! He was already treating my golden for cancer so when the bill kept rising, he said let's take care of the animals and worry about the bill later....He is the best in my eyes for also talking about this disaster!!! Katie, I sure will post what is talked about—I am as interested in the long term effects as you are. My vet is the best!!! He said not to euthanize the first kitty Jessica when I took her in Feb 12th as he thought what was wrong might be reversible as it came on fast and then the same when Smudge got sick. He was so right!!! He is an internal medicine specialist so my cats had the best from the beginning and he is one of the vets that is NOT AGAINST home cooking!!!! He was already treating my golden for cancer so when the bill kept rising, he said let’s take care of the animals and worry about the bill later….He is the best in my eyes for also talking about this disaster!!!

]]> By: 5CatMom http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58817 5CatMom Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:16:24 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58817 thomas, Good for you for asking her, and I'm not saying it didn't happen as the drug rep. says. But did you ask her if she witnessed the destruction? I recently contacted a company that was affected by a human drug recall. The collection and removal was handled by a company they hired for that purpose, and the collection/removal company hired another company to perform the physical destruction. The recalling company didn't want the tainted product back in their warehouse due to risk of a mixup. What came back to the recalling company was a piece of paper that they could put in their files for the FDA inspector. At least that's how the process was described to me. I'm not certain that the FDA requires that the recalling company be present, so this may be a weakness in the system. Let's hope that ethical companies ARE involved in the process, but there may be some opportunities for human error, IMHO. thomas,

Good for you for asking her, and I’m not saying it didn’t happen as the drug rep. says. But did you ask her if she witnessed the destruction?

I recently contacted a company that was affected by a human drug recall. The collection and removal was handled by a company they hired for that purpose, and the collection/removal company hired another company to perform the physical destruction.

The recalling company didn’t want the tainted product back in their warehouse due to risk of a mixup.

What came back to the recalling company was a piece of paper that they could put in their files for the FDA inspector.

At least that’s how the process was described to me. I’m not certain that the FDA requires that the recalling company be present, so this may be a weakness in the system.

Let’s hope that ethical companies ARE involved in the process, but there may be some opportunities for human error, IMHO.

]]> By: Katie http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58816 Katie Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:09:53 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58816 Carol, I hope you write a post about what was said at the meeting - sounds really interesting. You are so fortunate to have a group willing to sit down with the public. If questions are asked: I would be interested in what they are seeing as lingering effects in the surviving cats and dogs. Any unusual conditions, stomach or intestinal. Have there been increases in cancer. Are these animals now more prone to disease. You all are great! I've been gone for a couple of days, and can't believe everything that is happening! Katie Carol,

I hope you write a post about what was said at the meeting - sounds really interesting. You are so fortunate to have a group willing to sit down with the public.

If questions are asked: I would be interested in what they are seeing as lingering effects in the surviving cats and dogs. Any unusual conditions, stomach or intestinal. Have there been increases in cancer. Are these animals now more prone to disease.

You all are great! I’ve been gone for a couple of days, and can’t believe everything that is happening!

Katie

]]> By: thomas http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58811 thomas Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:55:40 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58811 Fivecatmom I recently spoke with a drug rep. from a major company. I asked what they do with recalled drugs etc. in this country. She said they were put into an oven and burned. She also stated if she has to take a drug she only uses those manufactrured in this country. I have to wonder what other countries do with recalled drugs? Do they just throw them in the mixer for any food product they are making? Fivecatmom I recently spoke with a drug rep. from a major company. I asked what they do with recalled drugs etc. in this country. She said they were put into an oven and burned. She also stated if she has to take a drug she only uses those manufactrured in this country.

I have to wonder what other countries do with recalled drugs? Do they just throw them in the mixer for any food product they are making?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58808 Anonymous Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:45:00 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58808 Wild horses killed by nitrate contamination: http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=6968181 Itchmo Admin: The name of the last person to post is showing up in the "name" field under "Leave a Reply". <strong>ITCHMO ADMIN:</strong> Anonymous, thanks for the heads-up. We have been aware of this issue and we are looking into the problem. Wild horses killed by nitrate contamination:

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=6968181

Itchmo Admin: The name of the last person to post is showing up in the “name” field under “Leave a Reply”.

ITCHMO ADMIN: Anonymous, thanks for the heads-up. We have been aware of this issue and we are looking into the problem.

]]> By: 5CatMom http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58807 5CatMom Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:43:55 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58807 This is the contaminated pet food/treats via recalled human drug products theory (a work in progress): The acetaminophen link: Some pet foods = sick pets (kidney's affected) = acetaminophen a possibility. Some pet treats = sick pets (kidney's affected) = unknown toxin, malic acid a possibility (see Purringfur's post/link). Acetaminophen and malic acid = Nutrasweet. http://www.nutrasweet.com/articles/sendfile.asp?Id=129&filename=AG-PF-03-017.pdf (chewables, more research needed on liquid) Nutrasweet = Monsanto = Operations in China. http://www.monsanto.com/who_we_are/locations/china.asp Nutrasweet = Children's liquid pain medicine Children's liquid pain medicine recalled. (more research needed here) What happens to recalled products, or products still in the manufacturing pipeline? --------------------------------------------------------- I'm still working on this, so don't go "blooey". LOL. Just thinking out loud here. This is the contaminated pet food/treats via recalled human drug products theory (a work in progress):

The acetaminophen link:

Some pet foods = sick pets (kidney’s affected) = acetaminophen a possibility.

Some pet treats = sick pets (kidney’s affected) = unknown toxin, malic acid a possibility (see Purringfur’s post/link).

Acetaminophen and malic acid = Nutrasweet.
http://www.nutrasweet.com/arti.....03-017.pdf (chewables, more research needed on liquid)

Nutrasweet = Monsanto = Operations in China.
http://www.monsanto.com/who_we...../china.asp

Nutrasweet = Children’s liquid pain medicine

Children’s liquid pain medicine recalled.
(more research needed here)

What happens to recalled products, or products still in the manufacturing pipeline?

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I’m still working on this, so don’t go “blooey”.

LOL. Just thinking out loud here.

]]> By: straybaby http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58803 straybaby Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:13:46 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58803 i was just getting ready to ask if they are checking the treats for heavy metals. if you look at them, they have a grid pattern that looks like they were pressed in metal while drying. the moisture in the treats could have leeched the metals into the treats, and it stayed in even after the moisture was gone. saliva would releech the metals i would think . . . . i was just getting ready to ask if they are checking the treats for heavy metals. if you look at them, they have a grid pattern that looks like they were pressed in metal while drying. the moisture in the treats could have leeched the metals into the treats, and it stayed in even after the moisture was gone. saliva would releech the metals i would think . . . .

]]> By: trueanonymous http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58802 trueanonymous Mon, 17 Sep 2007 20:09:29 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58802 WELL SAID: The reason Expertox finds toxins (while the FDA and other labs don’t) is because they’re not biased toward NOT finding toxins. pfur, great sleuthing. i don't see the acetometaphin link, but certainly the heavy metals. outdated drugs? seems like a stretch but the metals are cetainly enough to X these products off the list forever. MENUSUX: tks for your great input as well WELL SAID: The reason Expertox finds toxins (while the FDA and other labs don’t) is because they’re not biased toward NOT finding toxins.

pfur, great sleuthing.

i don’t see the acetometaphin link, but certainly the heavy metals.
outdated drugs? seems like a stretch but the metals are cetainly enough to X these products off the list forever.

MENUSUX: tks for your great input as well

]]> By: 5CatMom http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58790 5CatMom Mon, 17 Sep 2007 19:04:26 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vet-says-symptoms-of-affected-dogs-from-china-made-jerky-treats-similar-to-faconi-syndrome-2885#comment-58790 Forgot to add, Drug research is another one of those human activities that creates waste materials. The waste products go SOMEWHERE. Where do they go? Forgot to add,

Drug research is another one of those human activities that creates waste materials. The waste products go SOMEWHERE.

Where do they go?

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