Comments on: Vick Co-Defendants Plead Guilty In Dog Fighting Case, Still Waiting On Vick’s Decision http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324 Essential news for cats, dogs and pet owners. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 03:34:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Virginia To Pursue Dog Fighting And Animal Cruelty Charges Against Vick And Co-Defendants | Itchmo: News For Dogs & Cats http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46900 Virginia To Pursue Dog Fighting And Animal Cruelty Charges Against Vick And Co-Defendants | Itchmo: News For Dogs & Cats Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:31:59 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46900 [...] of Phillips and Peace’s guilty pleas today, Poindexter said the state now has admissions and evidence of what was done on Vick’s [...] […] of Phillips and Peace’s guilty pleas today, Poindexter said the state now has admissions and evidence of what was done on Vick’s […]

]]> By: Virginia To Pursue Dog Fighting And Animal Cruelty Charges Against Vick And Co-Defendants | Itchmo: News For Dogs & Cats http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46901 Virginia To Pursue Dog Fighting And Animal Cruelty Charges Against Vick And Co-Defendants | Itchmo: News For Dogs & Cats Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:31:59 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46901 [...] of Phillips and Peace’s guilty pleas today, Poindexter said the state now has admissions and evidence of what was done on Vick’s [...] […] of Phillips and Peace’s guilty pleas today, Poindexter said the state now has admissions and evidence of what was done on Vick’s […]

]]> By: straybaby http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46895 straybaby Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:06:15 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46895 ah thanks PBL, got my states/locations mixed up!! just happy as long as we are dealing with felonies on any new charges. ah thanks PBL, got my states/locations mixed up!! just happy as long as we are dealing with felonies on any new charges.

]]> By: Roberto P. http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46893 Roberto P. Fri, 17 Aug 2007 20:02:04 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46893 Breaking news on CNN--Feds offering a deal! Breaking news on CNN–Feds offering a deal!

]]> By: Pit Bull Lover http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46888 Pit Bull Lover Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:48:04 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46888 Straybaby, the proposed local charges I mentioned are Virginia Commonwealth ones, where the Moonlight Drive "death house" Vick owns is located. I don't know if there is anything to prosecute, in this case, in Georgia. A bad day for Ookie is a good day for me (and the "pit bulls")! Straybaby, the proposed local charges I mentioned are Virginia Commonwealth ones, where the Moonlight Drive “death house” Vick owns is located. I don’t know if there is anything to prosecute, in this case, in Georgia.

A bad day for Ookie is a good day for me (and the “pit bulls”)!

]]> By: Jenny Bark http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46887 Jenny Bark Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:46:57 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46887 Thanks straybaby, I just want to see him go down. Thanks straybaby, I just want to see him go down.

]]> By: straybaby http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46881 straybaby Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:42:14 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46881 Jenny, correct, there is no time limit, but come monday the grand jury is back to review more evidence and new charges could be applied also. if Vick wanted a plea, he should have done so before his co-defendants submitted theirs and rolled on his involvement. i think Vick is holding out for the NFL verdict because if he pleas beforehand, he sets himself up for the lifetime ban. he's between a rock and a very hard spot right now. if new charges are filed, he's looking at possibly 20yrs, so he's going to need to have something to offer in a plea i would think. as it stands, he's alone out there now. and of course his lawyers are gonna say everything is peachy ;) Jenny,

correct, there is no time limit, but come monday the grand jury is back to review more evidence and new charges could be applied also. if Vick wanted a plea, he should have done so before his co-defendants submitted theirs and rolled on his involvement. i think Vick is holding out for the NFL verdict because if he pleas beforehand, he sets himself up for the lifetime ban. he’s between a rock and a very hard spot right now. if new charges are filed, he’s looking at possibly 20yrs, so he’s going to need to have something to offer in a plea i would think. as it stands, he’s alone out there now.

and of course his lawyers are gonna say everything is peachy ;)

]]> By: Jenny Bark http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46879 Jenny Bark Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:36:48 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46879 CNN just said Vic's lawyer said on a radio station that their is no time limit on Vic taking a plea & that their was no split between Vic's lawyers. Said Vic has not taken a plea yet. CNN will say more when they hear more. PIT BULL LOVER I still think your right. CNN just said Vic’s lawyer said on a radio station that their is no time limit on Vic taking a plea & that their was no split between Vic’s lawyers. Said Vic has not taken a plea yet. CNN will say more when they hear more. PIT BULL LOVER I still think your right.

]]> By: straybaby http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46877 straybaby Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:34:51 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46877 PBL, i think the attorneys were trying to get the prosecutors to go for a year or less. i don't think the prosecutors could offer a sentence, only the judge can. i read earlier that it would be extraordinary if they did. that's great that animal cruelty is a felony in Georgia! and he could be sentenced per animal! thanks for that update! methinks Vick is having a VERY bad day, lol!~ ;) PBL, i think the attorneys were trying to get the prosecutors to go for a year or less. i don’t think the prosecutors could offer a sentence, only the judge can. i read earlier that it would be extraordinary if they did.

that’s great that animal cruelty is a felony in Georgia! and he could be sentenced per animal! thanks for that update!

methinks Vick is having a VERY bad day, lol!~ ;)

]]> By: Roberto P. http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46869 Roberto P. Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:20:16 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46869 BBC is also following this story. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6952027.stm My wife was reading it in French on a French news site, too. I'm glad to see this monster getting coverage outside the US. He deserves world wide scorn (plus huge fines, lots of jail time, etc.) PBL, if you're still here could you PM my wife? She's Mrs. P on the forums. She's been working with a rescue Pit at the shelter and is thinking of bringing him home. You seem very knowledgeable about the breed.... BBC is also following this story.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6952027.stm
My wife was reading it in French on a French news site, too.
I’m glad to see this monster getting coverage outside the US. He deserves world wide scorn (plus huge fines, lots of jail time, etc.)

PBL, if you’re still here could you PM my wife? She’s Mrs. P on the forums. She’s been working with a rescue Pit at the shelter and is thinking of bringing him home. You seem very knowledgeable about the breed….

]]> By: Pit Bull Lover http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46868 Pit Bull Lover Fri, 17 Aug 2007 19:12:24 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46868 BTW, the more I'm reading about the 2 plea agreements signed today, comments made by the judge about aggravating circumstances probably leading him to exceed federal sentencing guidelines in this case, I'm convinced reports of Vick's "proposed" plea deal including only 1 year in jail are absolutely false and are being planted by his defense team and PR teams. Especially as the last to accept a plea agreement -- if he *does* accept one -- he's not going to see the sentencing concessions his co-defendants will, IMO. Two words: deep doodoo. BTW, the more I’m reading about the 2 plea agreements signed today, comments made by the judge about aggravating circumstances probably leading him to exceed federal sentencing guidelines in this case, I’m convinced reports of Vick’s “proposed” plea deal including only 1 year in jail are absolutely false and are being planted by his defense team and PR teams.

Especially as the last to accept a plea agreement — if he *does* accept one — he’s not going to see the sentencing concessions his co-defendants will, IMO.

Two words: deep doodoo.

]]> By: Pit Bull Lover http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46861 Pit Bull Lover Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:52:30 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46861 BTW, the software *now* requiring certain comments to be approved by the moderator, in addition to the 4-character key one must type in before posting, is definitely going to drag the discussions to a crawl. One of my comments has been caught in "moderation" mode for 20-25 minutes! (It's not like I haven't been posting as myself, Pit Bull Lover, for months now. <strong>ITCHMO ADMIN:</strong> Hey PBL, We're working on a much better solution for everyone, but it will take some time. The comment spam filters are necessary to keep out the evil spam bots and I'm sorry about the hassle. We do always get to your moderated comments and free them. (Faster during the weekday than weekends.) I'm guessing that a spammer is using or has used your same IP for the software to hold your comments. BTW, the software *now* requiring certain comments to be approved by the moderator, in addition to the 4-character key one must type in before posting, is definitely going to drag the discussions to a crawl. One of my comments has been caught in “moderation” mode for 20-25 minutes! (It’s not like I haven’t been posting as myself, Pit Bull Lover, for months now.

ITCHMO ADMIN: Hey PBL,
We’re working on a much better solution for everyone, but it will take some time. The comment spam filters are necessary to keep out the evil spam bots and I’m sorry about the hassle. We do always get to your moderated comments and free them. (Faster during the weekday than weekends.) I’m guessing that a spammer is using or has used your same IP for the software to hold your comments.

]]> By: Lynn http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46858 Lynn Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:41:12 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46858 An eye for an eye...... I guess we should assume that Vick did not accept the plea bargain deal. Is that how it works? If you don't accept by the deadline, it's off the table? [See my detailed opinion on this matter under “Mr. Goodell, Please Don’t Ban Michael Vick From Football For Dog Fighting.”] An eye for an eye……

I guess we should assume that Vick did not accept the plea bargain deal. Is that how it works? If you don’t accept by the deadline, it’s off the table?

[See my detailed opinion on this matter under “Mr. Goodell, Please Don’t Ban Michael Vick From Football For Dog Fighting.”]

]]> By: Pit Bull Lover http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46854 Pit Bull Lover Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:38:12 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46854 Yeaaaah!!! From AJC.com: http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2007/08/17/vickvirginia_0817.html "Virginia Commonwealth Attorney Gerald Poindexter told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution Friday afternoon that "yes, indeed, we will prosecute" Vick and others on possible animal cruelty and dogfighting charges. Poindexter said he would probably submit his case to a grand jury that is scheduled to convene Sept. 25. "He has not determined which charges he would file but said he would aggressively prosecute based on previously acquired evidence and some of the evidence presented in the federal case. Dogfighting and animal cruelty are felonies in Virginia with animal cruelty charges holding penalties of up to five years in jail for each animal killed." Yeaaaah!!!

From AJC.com:
http://www.ajc.com/sports/cont....._0817.html

“Virginia Commonwealth Attorney Gerald Poindexter told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution Friday afternoon that “yes, indeed, we will prosecute” Vick and others on possible animal cruelty and dogfighting charges. Poindexter said he would probably submit his case to a grand jury that is scheduled to convene Sept. 25.

“He has not determined which charges he would file but said he would aggressively prosecute based on previously acquired evidence and some of the evidence presented in the federal case. Dogfighting and animal cruelty are felonies in Virginia with animal cruelty charges holding penalties of up to five years in jail for each animal killed.”

]]> By: Pit Bull Lover http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46850 Pit Bull Lover Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:29:30 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-co-defendants-plead-guilty-in-dog-fighting-case-still-waiting-on-vicks-decision-2324#comment-46850 What I'd always hoped would happen -- dogfighting and cruelty charges from the local authorities -- could become reality. BTW, it was *always* the local authorities' (Gerald Poindexter is Surry County's District Attorney) responsibility to file cruelty-type charges. The federal case couldn't/wouldn't appropriately address such crimes (though I suspect Judge Henry Hudson is going to consider them when he metes out the sentences for these guys). From Wavy.com: http://www.wvec.com/news/local/stories/wvec_local_081707_poindexter_on_pleadings.428eb3b2.htm What I’d always hoped would happen — dogfighting and cruelty charges from the local authorities — could become reality. BTW, it was *always* the local authorities’ (Gerald Poindexter is Surry County’s District Attorney) responsibility to file cruelty-type charges. The federal case couldn’t/wouldn’t appropriately address such crimes (though I suspect Judge Henry Hudson is going to consider them when he metes out the sentences for these guys).

From Wavy.com:
http://www.wvec.com/news/local.....8eb3b2.htm

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