Comments on: Vick Dog Fighting Poll Shows Extent Of Public Anger http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906 Essential news for cats, dogs and pet owners. Thu, 24 May 2012 02:48:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.2 By: Debby V http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-44194 Debby V Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:55:15 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-44194 I have just become a subscriber to Itchmo. Can any one tell me the name and address (including e-mail address if possible) of the prosecuter and judge handling the Vick dog fighting case? I think we should all write to them and ask for the largest prison sentence that can possibly be given if he is convicted. If Vick spends the better part of 5 years in prison his NFL carreer for the most part will be ruined and I believe the NFL teams will avoid him like the plague once he is released from prison. We have got to get the pressure going and keep it going to let the prosecuter and the judge know that the nation is watching this closely and is demanding the stiffest sentence possible for this dispicible person. I have just become a subscriber to Itchmo. Can any one tell me the name and address (including e-mail address if possible) of the prosecuter and judge handling the Vick dog fighting case? I think we should all write to them and ask for the largest prison sentence that can possibly be given if he is convicted. If Vick spends the better part of 5 years in prison his NFL carreer for the most part will be ruined and I believe the NFL teams will avoid him like the plague once he is released from prison.

We have got to get the pressure going and keep it going to let the prosecuter and the judge know that the nation is watching this closely and is demanding the stiffest sentence possible for this dispicible person.

]]> By: CathyA http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40475 CathyA Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:21:03 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40475 None of these people, Nike, NFL, etc. give a fig about dog fighting - they're only worried about their pocketbooks. Let Vick play. Confiscate his entire salary except for 15 thousand bucks a year and see if he can figure out a way to live on that. Donate the rest to rescue organizations. Put him on Humane Society arrest for 5 years - two days a week he gets to shovel poop. For any of these testosterone laden people - players and fans alike - this would be a fate worse than death or prison. None of these people, Nike, NFL, etc. give a fig about dog fighting - they’re only worried about their pocketbooks. Let Vick play. Confiscate his entire salary except for 15 thousand bucks a year and see if he can figure out a way to live on that. Donate the rest to rescue organizations. Put him on Humane Society arrest for 5 years - two days a week he gets to shovel poop. For any of these testosterone laden people - players and fans alike - this would be a fate worse than death or prison.

]]> By: Lis http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40341 Lis Sat, 28 Jul 2007 02:24:28 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40341 Itchmo, sorry, but the NFL's intent is perfectly clear. Yes, the team could suspend Vick for four games immediately--except that Vick could then appeal. And what happens when he appeals? Why, of course, the suspension is suspended during the appeal--Vick is back in uniform and practicing and playing with the team until the appeal is completed. Also, the appeal is to an outside arbitrator, who'll rule solely on the contract. By "requesting" that Vick not show up for training camp, the NFL keeps him from getting into uniform and playing, while they do their "review." The League can do a lot more than suspend him for four games; in the right circumstances they can end his career. And actions by the League are not appealed to an outside arbitrator; they're appealed to the Commissioner. Their chances of ensuring that he <i>never</i> puts on an NFL uniform again are <i>much</i> better this way. Demanding that the team issue a short-term and ineffective action that would virtually guarantee that Vick plays NFL football again, at least for a short period of time, seems rather self-defeating. Itchmo, sorry, but the NFL’s intent is perfectly clear. Yes, the team could suspend Vick for four games immediately–except that Vick could then appeal. And what happens when he appeals? Why, of course, the suspension is suspended during the appeal–Vick is back in uniform and practicing and playing with the team until the appeal is completed. Also, the appeal is to an outside arbitrator, who’ll rule solely on the contract.

By “requesting” that Vick not show up for training camp, the NFL keeps him from getting into uniform and playing, while they do their “review.” The League can do a lot more than suspend him for four games; in the right circumstances they can end his career. And actions by the League are not appealed to an outside arbitrator; they’re appealed to the Commissioner. Their chances of ensuring that he never puts on an NFL uniform again are much better this way.

Demanding that the team issue a short-term and ineffective action that would virtually guarantee that Vick plays NFL football again, at least for a short period of time, seems rather self-defeating.

]]> By: Pit Bull Lover http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40296 Pit Bull Lover Sat, 28 Jul 2007 00:37:38 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40296 Hot off the presses: One of Vick's co-defendants, Tony Taylor, has scheduled a plea agreement hearing for 9 AM Monday. He apparently doesn't want to wait for a trial... Ooh, ooh, Ookie! That's Bad "Newz" indeed, for Ookie the Dogfighter. Hot off the presses:

One of Vick’s co-defendants, Tony Taylor, has scheduled a plea agreement hearing for 9 AM Monday. He apparently doesn’t want to wait for a trial…

Ooh, ooh, Ookie! That’s Bad “Newz” indeed, for Ookie the Dogfighter.

]]> By: Pit Bull Lover http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40276 Pit Bull Lover Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:26:02 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40276 Vick's banishment from training camp by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, compared with the four-game, *maximum* suspension that could have been imposed by the Atlanta Falcons, was a strong and punitively strategic move. Kudos to Goodell and the NFL (AND Falcon's owner Arthur Blank, for being willing to suspend Vick) for their actions thus far. SI.com's Don Banks provides a good explainer here: http://tinyurl.com/yu36ka Vick’s banishment from training camp by NFL commissioner Roger Goodell, compared with the four-game, *maximum* suspension that could have been imposed by the Atlanta Falcons, was a strong and punitively strategic move. Kudos to Goodell and the NFL (AND Falcon’s owner Arthur Blank, for being willing to suspend Vick) for their actions thus far.

SI.com’s Don Banks provides a good explainer here:
http://tinyurl.com/yu36ka

]]> By: Pit Bull Lover http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40270 Pit Bull Lover Fri, 27 Jul 2007 22:46:15 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40270 Hm. I wonder if public opinion would decline even further if photographs or video existed to document what one woman writes (in a Dogster blog) she saw outside the federal courthouse in Richmond -- Vick giving protesters the finger as he was driven away in a white SUV: http://www.dogster.com/dogs/362781/diary/Diesels_day/342645 Hm. I wonder if public opinion would decline even further if photographs or video existed to document what one woman writes (in a Dogster blog) she saw outside the federal courthouse in Richmond — Vick giving protesters the finger as he was driven away in a white SUV:

http://www.dogster.com/dogs/36.....day/342645

]]> By: Kevin http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40253 Kevin Fri, 27 Jul 2007 22:08:01 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40253 Gatorfan: LOL!!! I think your right. Let him play so we can watch him get crushed on the field and in court. The sad thing is that, he will probably use the race card to protect his sorry A**. Gatorfan:

LOL!!! I think your right. Let him play so we can watch him get crushed on the field and in court. The sad thing is that, he will probably use the race card to protect his sorry A**.

]]> By: gatorfan http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40242 gatorfan Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:32:48 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40242 I think Vick should be allowed to play. Consider this, WHO WOULD WANT TO PROTECT HIS A** in a game? I dare say he would not survive the first play in which he was not protected. Poor baby! I realize this thought process probably puts me on the same level as the sub-humans who watch dogs kill each other, and for that matter bull fighting and cock fighting, but I am so afraid he will get off on a technicality. I am fairly certain he has already spoken to OJ. I think Vick should be allowed to play. Consider this, WHO WOULD WANT TO PROTECT HIS A** in a game? I dare say he would not survive the first play in which he was not protected. Poor baby! I realize this thought process probably puts me on the same level as the sub-humans who watch dogs kill each other, and for that matter bull fighting and cock fighting, but I am so afraid he will get off on a technicality. I am fairly certain he has already spoken to OJ.

]]> By: Lynn http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40200 Lynn Fri, 27 Jul 2007 20:11:54 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40200 “Their sentiments are in direct contrast with the NFL’s opinion to let Vick play.” Where did you get this from, Itchmo? "Let Vick play"???? I don't believe this is the situation. Last I heard, the NFL was conducting a review and I do not believe it is complete. Check out Straybaby's earlier posting, as her understanding is the same as mine. <strong>ITCHMO ADMIN:</strong> Arthur Blank wanted Vick suspended immediately for 4 games, which as the team owner he has the full right to do. But the NFL asked him to hold off. No NFL review is required for Blank to suspend his players. I will, however, remove the terms "to let Vick play" since it may not be clear what the NFL's intent is. Thanks. “Their sentiments are in direct contrast with the NFL’s opinion to let Vick play.”

Where did you get this from, Itchmo? “Let Vick play”???? I don’t believe this is the situation. Last I heard, the NFL was conducting a review and I do not believe it is complete. Check out Straybaby’s earlier posting, as her understanding is the same as mine.

ITCHMO ADMIN: Arthur Blank wanted Vick suspended immediately for 4 games, which as the team owner he has the full right to do. But the NFL asked him to hold off. No NFL review is required for Blank to suspend his players. I will, however, remove the terms “to let Vick play” since it may not be clear what the NFL’s intent is. Thanks.

]]> By: Lis http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40190 Lis Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:48:36 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40190 Katie--why give Vick a chance to muddy the waters, and make this about the contract rather than about what he's done? I'd rather see them take their time and crush him, than have them rush in with a feel-good announcement and wind up having to pay him for "violating his contract rights." Katie–why give Vick a chance to muddy the waters, and make this about the contract rather than about what he’s done? I’d rather see them take their time and crush him, than have them rush in with a feel-good announcement and wind up having to pay him for “violating his contract rights.”

]]> By: Katie http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40175 Katie Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:42:16 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40175 If the American public stands up and says enough! refuses to buy Nike products and refuses to support the NFL, that is the only way corporate America will do what is right. It is unbelievable that the NFL, Falcons and Nike need to be concerned with being sued by Vick. Actually it would be interesting to see it come to court proceedings - I believe a jury would run Vick out of the country. Katie If the American public stands up and says enough! refuses to buy Nike products and refuses to support the NFL, that is the only way corporate America will do what is right. It is unbelievable that the NFL, Falcons and Nike need to be concerned with being sued by Vick. Actually it would be interesting to see it come to court proceedings - I believe a jury would run Vick out of the country.

Katie

]]> By: straybaby http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40052 straybaby Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:39:09 +0000 http://www.itchmo.com/vick-dog-fighting-poll-shows-extent-of-public-anger-1906#comment-40052 "Their sentiments are in direct contrast with the NFL’s opinion to let Vick play." actually, I don't really think that's accurate saying the NFL's opinion is to let Vick play. They've told him to stay away until they finish their investigation. They have the power to keep him away from camp and suspend him more permanently than the team does. The team can ONLY do up to 4 games, which does not included training camp and preseason. And he could challenge the suspension which (I think) means he could play until it's settled. With the league keeping him away and then handing down a suspension after their investigation, they keep him away from camp and off the field immediately. I saw the interviews on Thursday with both the NFL, Players rep and Falcons and got the impression they all would have liked to be a bit more candid in their feelings on this . . . . “Their sentiments are in direct contrast with the NFL’s opinion to let Vick play.”

actually, I don’t really think that’s accurate saying the NFL’s opinion is to let Vick play. They’ve told him to stay away until they finish their investigation. They have the power to keep him away from camp and suspend him more permanently than the team does. The team can ONLY do up to 4 games, which does not included training camp and preseason. And he could challenge the suspension which (I think) means he could play until it’s settled. With the league keeping him away and then handing down a suspension after their investigation, they keep him away from camp and off the field immediately.

I saw the interviews on Thursday with both the NFL, Players rep and Falcons and got the impression they all would have liked to be a bit more candid in their feelings on this . . . .

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