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	<title>Comments on: What Vick Really Meant During His Public Statement After Dog Fighting Guilty Plea</title>
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		<title>By: kaefamily</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-53466</link>
		<author>kaefamily</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALL those who are, whether directly or indirectly, involved with dog fightings ARE irreversible mentally twisted!</description>
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		<title>By: nora</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-53381</link>
		<author>nora</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vic is scum. No doubt about it. Sleezy, lying, fiendish scum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vic is scum. No doubt about it. Sleezy, lying, fiendish scum.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-53322</link>
		<author>Lynn</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Cottrell,

I wish Vick's problems were as simple as Vick being a narcissist, a personality disorder that is not at all easy to treat. A good number of celebrities often meet the medical criteria.

Vick's problem is far, far worse. He meets all the DSM-IV criteria for APD [antisocial personality disorder], a conduct disorder that often mushrooms into a psychopath .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Cottrell,</p>
<p>I wish Vick&#8217;s problems were as simple as Vick being a narcissist, a personality disorder that is not at all easy to treat. A good number of celebrities often meet the medical criteria.</p>
<p>Vick&#8217;s problem is far, far worse. He meets all the DSM-IV criteria for APD [antisocial personality disorder], a conduct disorder that often mushrooms into a psychopath .</p>
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		<title>By: Lynn</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-53320</link>
		<author>Lynn</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-53320</guid>
		<description>Wonderful story, Mittens.

One correction though:  the phrase "sorry excuse for a man."

Mittens, Vick doesn't even qualify for THAT. He is a coward in the worst possible form that has to demonstrate his power by bullying and torturing things much smaller than himself.

Boy, wish one of those sleezy tabloids would find some of Vick's girlfriends [has he ever had any?] and offer them $$$ to tell of their experiences with Vick. Bet there's some assault and battery there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful story, Mittens.</p>
<p>One correction though:  the phrase &#8220;sorry excuse for a man.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mittens, Vick doesn&#8217;t even qualify for THAT. He is a coward in the worst possible form that has to demonstrate his power by bullying and torturing things much smaller than himself.</p>
<p>Boy, wish one of those sleezy tabloids would find some of Vick&#8217;s girlfriends [has he ever had any?] and offer them $$$ to tell of their experiences with Vick. Bet there&#8217;s some assault and battery there.</p>
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		<title>By: mittens</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-53203</link>
		<author>mittens</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 03:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-53203</guid>
		<description>killing and torturing animals for your personal amusement and to generate gaming money isn't immature- it's fully adult criminal behavior of a psychologically, morally sick individual.

by the time a child around 3 or 4 they should be well aware that physically harming the family pets is unacceptable, cruel behavior.those that persist in doing so do so because they want to do it and feel entitled to do whatever they want despite any illegality or social sanctions involved. baby sociopaths in the making.

what a sorry excuse for a man. brave enough to shoot a hurt, restrained and helpless animal in the head- not brave enough to stand by his actions honestly.

a rather giant Marine showed up at my house in a very hippy-ish tree hugging city to connect my cable tv.he seemed none too pleased with my admittedly odd appearance , odd apartment and herd of illnatured heathen calicos. when he was making some actual helpful suggestions about upgrading my cable box to get hd and the package he used at his house he mentioned that he used to love watching sports but really refused to now because of overpaid dopes and thugs like vick.when i mentioned how horrified i was that a man like that and simple minded hooligans should be held up as heros and lathered with money, he opened  right up. we were all palsy by the time he left. i am not very into sports and dont know too many people who are but seeing that average sort of guys- the bulk of the football watching audience- sickened by vick's behavior toward those poor animals made me hopeful that a larger segment of society outside of animal advocates had had enough too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>killing and torturing animals for your personal amusement and to generate gaming money isn&#8217;t immature- it&#8217;s fully adult criminal behavior of a psychologically, morally sick individual.</p>
<p>by the time a child around 3 or 4 they should be well aware that physically harming the family pets is unacceptable, cruel behavior.those that persist in doing so do so because they want to do it and feel entitled to do whatever they want despite any illegality or social sanctions involved. baby sociopaths in the making.</p>
<p>what a sorry excuse for a man. brave enough to shoot a hurt, restrained and helpless animal in the head- not brave enough to stand by his actions honestly.</p>
<p>a rather giant Marine showed up at my house in a very hippy-ish tree hugging city to connect my cable tv.he seemed none too pleased with my admittedly odd appearance , odd apartment and herd of illnatured heathen calicos. when he was making some actual helpful suggestions about upgrading my cable box to get hd and the package he used at his house he mentioned that he used to love watching sports but really refused to now because of overpaid dopes and thugs like vick.when i mentioned how horrified i was that a man like that and simple minded hooligans should be held up as heros and lathered with money, he opened  right up. we were all palsy by the time he left. i am not very into sports and dont know too many people who are but seeing that average sort of guys- the bulk of the football watching audience- sickened by vick&#8217;s behavior toward those poor animals made me hopeful that a larger segment of society outside of animal advocates had had enough too.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-53189</link>
		<author>Barb</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 00:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-53189</guid>
		<description>If the link above didn't open here's the story:

Dogfighting is a real crime
8:22 pm, August 30, 2007 

If you believe, as I do, that Michael Vick should serve the maximum possible prison time and never be allowed to play professional football again, then you have a real understanding of what he did and why society needs to make a stand against it. 
Continue to 2nd paragraph 

If you believe that dogfighting doesn't sound like such a big deal, that Vick is a victim of racism, and our time would be better spent prosecuting "real" crimes like rape or murder, then read on, because you need enlightenment.

Ironically, Michael Vick is single-handedly doing more to raise public awareness of this brutal past-time than all the animal welfare advocates have been able to do in 50 years. Because of his fame and fortune and the height of his fall, the beleaguered pit bulls of America may finally get the help they need.

Those of us in the trenches of animal rescue know that fighting dogs may be skinned alive, have their entire faces ripped off, or throats torn out by a stronger opponent. We know that dogs who won't fight are routinely hanged, drowned, beaten to death, electrocuted, or, if an owner is exceptionally merciful, merely shot in the head. We know that classified ads offering free puppies and kittens are sometimes answered by people who use them as bait and practice targets to be ripped apart.

We have tried to make it known that there is a proven link between violence against animals and violence against people. Individuals who fight dogs and bet on them have a sick, twisted streak that often manifests as spousal abuse and child abuse as well. They vent their anger and frustration by abusing living creatures, and they don't always care what species their victims are.

A high percentage of people who own fighting dogs and attend dogfights are felons who have already been convicted of other violent crimes. This is not a matter in which we should mind our own business, as suggested by Vick's buddy, Clinton Portis. This should be everyone's business every bit as much as beating a child should be everyone's business, because the behaviors are inextricably linked.

This was no youthful indiscretion on Vick's part. This is not, as his attorney stated, a case of "a good kid in a bad situation." This is not the same as being caught snorting cocaine or stealing a car or punching a guy in a bar fight. This was deep, personal involvement in a world of blood and violence over a period of at least seven years.

I'm not naive enough to believe that the only dogs he killed were the eight listed in the indictment. Those were only the latest and the best-documented. In an operation the size of Bad Newz Kennels, you could expect that at least 100 dogs would have been killed over that time period. Vick felt the need to do it personally by an assortment of methods that caused the maximum amount of terror and suffering in his victims.

Michael Vick is an unrepentant narcissist who only decided to "take full responsibility" for his actions when the feds were dangling a RICO charge over his head. He made an emotional apology to his family, his fans, the NFL and nearly everyone except the ones to whom he owed it most: the dogs in his care who trusted him and were rewarded with searing pain, suffering and mind-numbing fear.

I hope public outcry will keep this man from ever regaining the glory he attained as a football god. I hope anyone who owns a Vick jersey or shirt will donate it to Animal Services or the Humane Society to use as a dog bed or a poop towel. I hope the plight of the pit bull will finally be recognized and taken seriously.

But, most of all, I hope for a society capable of understanding that the way we treat our animals is a reflection of the way we treat each other.

Deborah Cottrell owns a veterinary practice in Jonesville. She is active in several animal welfare groups and spearheads a program free spay/neuter program for pit bulls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the link above didn&#8217;t open here&#8217;s the story:</p>
<p>Dogfighting is a real crime<br />
8:22 pm, August 30, 2007 </p>
<p>If you believe, as I do, that Michael Vick should serve the maximum possible prison time and never be allowed to play professional football again, then you have a real understanding of what he did and why society needs to make a stand against it.<br />
Continue to 2nd paragraph </p>
<p>If you believe that dogfighting doesn&#8217;t sound like such a big deal, that Vick is a victim of racism, and our time would be better spent prosecuting &#8220;real&#8221; crimes like rape or murder, then read on, because you need enlightenment.</p>
<p>Ironically, Michael Vick is single-handedly doing more to raise public awareness of this brutal past-time than all the animal welfare advocates have been able to do in 50 years. Because of his fame and fortune and the height of his fall, the beleaguered pit bulls of America may finally get the help they need.</p>
<p>Those of us in the trenches of animal rescue know that fighting dogs may be skinned alive, have their entire faces ripped off, or throats torn out by a stronger opponent. We know that dogs who won&#8217;t fight are routinely hanged, drowned, beaten to death, electrocuted, or, if an owner is exceptionally merciful, merely shot in the head. We know that classified ads offering free puppies and kittens are sometimes answered by people who use them as bait and practice targets to be ripped apart.</p>
<p>We have tried to make it known that there is a proven link between violence against animals and violence against people. Individuals who fight dogs and bet on them have a sick, twisted streak that often manifests as spousal abuse and child abuse as well. They vent their anger and frustration by abusing living creatures, and they don&#8217;t always care what species their victims are.</p>
<p>A high percentage of people who own fighting dogs and attend dogfights are felons who have already been convicted of other violent crimes. This is not a matter in which we should mind our own business, as suggested by Vick&#8217;s buddy, Clinton Portis. This should be everyone&#8217;s business every bit as much as beating a child should be everyone&#8217;s business, because the behaviors are inextricably linked.</p>
<p>This was no youthful indiscretion on Vick&#8217;s part. This is not, as his attorney stated, a case of &#8220;a good kid in a bad situation.&#8221; This is not the same as being caught snorting cocaine or stealing a car or punching a guy in a bar fight. This was deep, personal involvement in a world of blood and violence over a period of at least seven years.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not naive enough to believe that the only dogs he killed were the eight listed in the indictment. Those were only the latest and the best-documented. In an operation the size of Bad Newz Kennels, you could expect that at least 100 dogs would have been killed over that time period. Vick felt the need to do it personally by an assortment of methods that caused the maximum amount of terror and suffering in his victims.</p>
<p>Michael Vick is an unrepentant narcissist who only decided to &#8220;take full responsibility&#8221; for his actions when the feds were dangling a RICO charge over his head. He made an emotional apology to his family, his fans, the NFL and nearly everyone except the ones to whom he owed it most: the dogs in his care who trusted him and were rewarded with searing pain, suffering and mind-numbing fear.</p>
<p>I hope public outcry will keep this man from ever regaining the glory he attained as a football god. I hope anyone who owns a Vick jersey or shirt will donate it to Animal Services or the Humane Society to use as a dog bed or a poop towel. I hope the plight of the pit bull will finally be recognized and taken seriously.</p>
<p>But, most of all, I hope for a society capable of understanding that the way we treat our animals is a reflection of the way we treat each other.</p>
<p>Deborah Cottrell owns a veterinary practice in Jonesville. She is active in several animal welfare groups and spearheads a program free spay/neuter program for pit bulls.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-53155</link>
		<author>Barb</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-53155</guid>
		<description>Dog Fighting Is A Real Crime - The Gainesville Sun - 8:22 pm, August 30, 2007 

http://gainesvillesun.com/article/20070831/OPINION02/708310305/-1//apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage?userreg=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dog Fighting Is A Real Crime - The Gainesville Sun - 8:22 pm, August 30, 2007 </p>
<p><a href="http://gainesvillesun.com/article/20070831/OPINION02/708310305/-1//apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage?userreg=1" rel="nofollow">http://gainesvillesun.com/arti.....?userreg=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: L.B.</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-53147</link>
		<author>L.B.</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Studdard sounds like an a$$ to me.  Not because he thinks Vick is full of crap (which I agree Vick is), but the way he phrased the 'translations'.

I don't know if Studdard is white or black, but if by chance he's black, he comes off as a snob to me, at least in print.  And if he's white he comes off like a snob and a bigot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Studdard sounds like an a$$ to me.  Not because he thinks Vick is full of crap (which I agree Vick is), but the way he phrased the &#8216;translations&#8217;.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if Studdard is white or black, but if by chance he&#8217;s black, he comes off as a snob to me, at least in print.  And if he&#8217;s white he comes off like a snob and a bigot.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-53071</link>
		<author>Kevin</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-53071</guid>
		<description>It's interesting to read the publics opinion on these blogs.  It just reaffirms that the majority of the American people are not stupid as the media wishes them to be.

I'm sure Bubba heard the same thing from Vick and can't wait for his new roommate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting to read the publics opinion on these blogs.  It just reaffirms that the majority of the American people are not stupid as the media wishes them to be.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Bubba heard the same thing from Vick and can&#8217;t wait for his new roommate.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-53069</link>
		<author>Katie</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-53069</guid>
		<description>I agree, great translation by the atty.  First person MV apologized to was Goddell and than the coach..I felt based on that MV was only concerned about his contract.  MV doesn't care at all about the dogs, fighting or gambling. He thinks he is beyond the law.  

Merlin; I'm afraid you are right. The majority of the people will believe the BS. 

Katie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, great translation by the atty.  First person MV apologized to was Goddell and than the coach..I felt based on that MV was only concerned about his contract.  MV doesn&#8217;t care at all about the dogs, fighting or gambling. He thinks he is beyond the law.  </p>
<p>Merlin; I&#8217;m afraid you are right. The majority of the people will believe the BS. </p>
<p>Katie</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<author>Anonymous</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great translation by the atty....but what did the media hounds cover?
The media hounds have a nose for sensational stories only.
No matter that the stories stink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great translation by the atty&#8230;.but what did the media hounds cover?<br />
The media hounds have a nose for sensational stories only.<br />
No matter that the stories stink.</p>
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		<title>By: Merlin Marshall</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-52999</link>
		<author>Merlin Marshall</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-52999</guid>
		<description>Unfortunately a large portion of the public will believe what he said.  Most people are dumber than you think.

I agree with everyone else, Vick is only worried about losing all his money and cares not one iota about dogs or anything else but himself.  His own statements clearly show he has no remorse for killing animals, only remorse that he got caught and will not be getting fat paychecks any time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately a large portion of the public will believe what he said.  Most people are dumber than you think.</p>
<p>I agree with everyone else, Vick is only worried about losing all his money and cares not one iota about dogs or anything else but himself.  His own statements clearly show he has no remorse for killing animals, only remorse that he got caught and will not be getting fat paychecks any time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-52997</link>
		<author>Suzanne</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.  Vick's statement just shows he's sorry he hurt his team and will be losing all that money.  If he were smart, he should be trying to reach out to rescue groups and animal lovers.  The Sept/Oct issue of Dog Living Magazine has a great article by Carole Raphaelle Davis about dog fighting and includes an interview with one of the undercover investigators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  Vick&#8217;s statement just shows he&#8217;s sorry he hurt his team and will be losing all that money.  If he were smart, he should be trying to reach out to rescue groups and animal lovers.  The Sept/Oct issue of Dog Living Magazine has a great article by Carole Raphaelle Davis about dog fighting and includes an interview with one of the undercover investigators.</p>
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		<title>By: furmom</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-52995</link>
		<author>furmom</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 16:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think the "immaturity" defense makes much sense, kids are immature, yet the vast majority would know that sending dogs in to tear each other apart for the sport and financial benefit of adults is wrong. A child could use the argument of immaturity, but not an adult. I think he'd have a better chance with a "diminished capacity" defence, since the guy seems demented to me. He doesn't even seem remotely remorseful (except only as far as he is going to be penalized or inconvenienced), but is too obtuse to realize that normal people can see right through a false confession of remorse. If he had suddenly been remorseful and gave up the dog fighting BEFORE he was caught, I might almost believe him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the &#8220;immaturity&#8221; defense makes much sense, kids are immature, yet the vast majority would know that sending dogs in to tear each other apart for the sport and financial benefit of adults is wrong. A child could use the argument of immaturity, but not an adult. I think he&#8217;d have a better chance with a &#8220;diminished capacity&#8221; defence, since the guy seems demented to me. He doesn&#8217;t even seem remotely remorseful (except only as far as he is going to be penalized or inconvenienced), but is too obtuse to realize that normal people can see right through a false confession of remorse. If he had suddenly been remorseful and gave up the dog fighting BEFORE he was caught, I might almost believe him.</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
		<link>http://www.itchmo.com/what-vick-really-meant-during-his-public-statement-after-dog-fighting-guilty-plea-2574#comment-52987</link>
		<author>Teresa</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Vick was addicted to dogfighting just as much as any substance abuse or other addiction.  So his "confession" and "remorse" at this early stage means nothing.  Dude got caught, doesn't want to lose his money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Vick was addicted to dogfighting just as much as any substance abuse or other addiction.  So his &#8220;confession&#8221; and &#8220;remorse&#8221; at this early stage means nothing.  Dude got caught, doesn&#8217;t want to lose his money.</p>
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